**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 28 03:00:02 2017 Dec 28 05:53:57 hi #maemo https://bpaste.net/show/35bc10311fbf Dec 28 07:27:07 vahe[m]: what's that? Dec 28 07:33:37 sicelo: I wanted to know something, but not necessary now) Dec 28 07:33:39 thanks Dec 28 07:34:04 can help to install matrix for pidgin? )) Dec 28 07:35:02 sicelo: https://bpaste.net/show/7d692109c7af ) Dec 28 07:39:40 or tell me how how to use the matrix https://matrix.org/ Dec 28 08:51:37 vahe: pretty sure you already asked for that .... I even built the purple-matrix plugin back then ... Dec 28 08:51:44 http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/ Dec 28 08:52:07 no idea whether it should work, nor how Dec 28 08:55:14 bencoh: Yes you are right I asked but as if this thought gives me peace :( Dec 28 09:04:38 interesting, bencoh Dec 28 09:04:39 http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/720p/hdcodecs/ Dec 28 09:04:50 do I dare try them without instructions? Dec 28 09:04:51 :P Dec 28 09:05:49 I think you can Dec 28 09:22:32 bencoh: sorry ,my friend, i did not understand a bit, what do you suggest? Dec 28 09:23:23 purple-protocol-telegram_1.2.6-1_armel.deb I see there is a plugin for telegramm Dec 28 09:23:36 maybe it's possible? Dec 28 10:17:21 bencoh: you mean libmatrix:.so? Dec 28 10:35:19 vahe: yes, and it doesn't work Dec 28 10:35:34 (I tested it a few minutes ago) Dec 28 10:35:55 aha thanks Dec 28 10:37:25 json-glib misses json_path_query on maemo Dec 28 10:37:47 which leads to undefined reference when trying to load/bind the libhangouts.so plugin Dec 28 10:38:35 funny thing is all this stuff stayed open for months in a screen on my server :) Dec 28 10:42:54 :D Dec 28 10:43:41 bencoh: can I ask you what repo are you using now? Dec 28 10:43:51 hey guise, I'm bored, what fun thing should I do to justify my N900's existence? Dec 28 10:44:03 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/watercolour_failbutts.PNG I tried drawing, but that didn't work out too well Dec 28 10:44:09 or whatever it was called Dec 28 10:44:24 n900-fly Dec 28 10:44:58 lol Dec 28 10:45:23 expensive tossing brick :P Dec 28 10:45:46 CatButts: some TMO user was pretty skilled with drawing on n900 Dec 28 10:46:02 yes, the myPaint thread Dec 28 10:46:13 I am just a drawling at the moment Dec 28 10:46:39 also, I never got along with myPaint Dec 28 10:46:55 so I have this butchered-up Shi-Painter Dec 28 10:47:05 hmm, I was referring to the "look what I draw" thread Dec 28 10:47:16 yes Dec 28 10:47:19 that one Dec 28 10:47:35 I am going back in time in it Dec 28 10:47:46 oh, that reminds me Dec 28 10:47:54 is PenPen opensource? Dec 28 10:48:43 it's an infinite canvas vector draw tool meant to replace N900's sketching app Dec 28 10:49:11 it's cludgy, but I feel that with a few adjustmentations, it will become competent application Dec 28 10:51:28 There's also sheepdraw Dec 28 10:51:47 but it has sever offset problems for stylus input Dec 28 10:52:04 I wonder if thread uploader still works Dec 28 10:52:17 I'd like to necro the sheepdraw thread Dec 28 10:52:27 from within the app Dec 28 10:52:53 it will have been a crowning achievement Dec 28 10:53:01 *severe Dec 28 10:54:11 tell me how to reinstall the OS without father data? Dec 28 10:54:28 father data? Dec 28 10:54:34 don't want to lose photo video ) Dec 28 10:54:48 you mean 'without losing user data' ? Dec 28 10:54:52 aha yes Dec 28 10:55:17 i think you flash vanill without emmc Dec 28 10:55:27 I'm a little broke OS :D Dec 28 10:55:46 but best is to just copy your data onto sdcard Dec 28 10:55:53 or computer (via usb) Dec 28 10:56:26 yeah, it's just not included the phone Dec 28 10:56:59 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/legwarmercat.PNG yeah, I don't think I am going to be posting in the 'look what I draw' thread anytime soon :P Dec 28 10:57:15 KotCzarny: where you can now download OS? Dec 28 10:58:53 ~flashing Dec 28 10:58:54 it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing Dec 28 10:59:25 thanks Dec 28 10:59:54 ~lazyflashing Dec 28 10:59:54 methinks lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach Dec 28 11:01:34 KotCzarny: that is, to install only vanilla? Dec 28 11:01:54 as i've said, backup data to sdcard or computer to be sure Dec 28 11:02:02 (and it's always good to have a backup) Dec 28 11:03:53 KotCzarny: and then I told you but if the phone is not included?:) Dec 28 11:04:28 only RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin yes? Dec 28 11:04:29 try writing your original question in google translate then pasting the result of translation here Dec 28 11:04:48 because i didnt understand it Dec 28 11:05:25 does not turn on Dec 28 11:05:32 sorry ) Dec 28 11:05:47 maybe it's just flat battery? Dec 28 11:06:36 no, I inadvertently ruined a reset kernel Dec 28 11:07:47 I accidentally) Dec 28 11:08:49 maybe then: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_only_the_kernel_from_a_FIASCO_image_.28expert_topic.21.29 ? Dec 28 11:09:22 but that wont work if you had power kernel or cssu Dec 28 11:09:48 cool idea Dec 28 11:15:24 now I'll try Dec 28 11:21:14 YES! Dec 28 11:21:26 KotCzarny: https://bpaste.net/show/8b08341744c5 thanks man Dec 28 11:21:37 now make those backups Dec 28 11:22:05 that's for sure Dec 28 11:22:07 )] Dec 28 13:42:45 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/ sacred place for owners of Maemo :D Dec 28 13:43:06 look at all interesting ) Dec 28 13:43:19 * CatButts rubs his eyes Dec 28 13:43:24 no, you think about everything on maemo.org Dec 28 13:43:43 talk.maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org Dec 28 13:57:32 rescueOS what is this OS? Dec 28 13:59:17 ~rescueOS Dec 28 13:59:17 rescueos is probably http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ Dec 28 14:00:26 Maybe this is more informative https://github.com/quitesimpleorg/N900_RescueOS/blob/master/documentation.txt Dec 28 14:02:40 no( Dec 28 14:03:48 sixwheeledbeast: thanks) rescue solution? anyone have a screenshot of the video ? Dec 28 14:08:43 I have 2 N900-one want to do a clean LinuxOSis it possible? without chroot, direct connection , that's why they are interested in rescueOS Dec 28 14:09:17 yes, but you will have problems with gsm(voice) part Dec 28 14:09:20 "clean LinuxOS"? Dec 28 14:09:41 swb: i suspect he wants some generic distro without maemo Dec 28 14:12:55 sixwheeledbeast: for example debian os Dec 28 14:12:59 gentoo os Dec 28 14:13:37 I'm a fan of Maemo, but I have 2 and I want to do with Linux Dec 28 14:13:47 I'm also a fan of gentoo Dec 28 14:14:07 closed blobs on the device make it difficult to have full functionality Dec 28 14:14:07 http://maemo.cloud-7.de/NIN101_N900_rescue_os/nin101.uni.cx/n900-new/206.253.166.96/N900/debian/setup.txt Dec 28 14:15:01 sixwheeledbeast: well, at least some , for example I need only wifi and OS Dec 28 14:15:59 it is clear that completely impossible, but I need to surprise friends :D so I will limit myself to at least half of the functionality Dec 28 14:16:17 this link is working as you think? Dec 28 14:16:51 It's possible look at https://github.com/dderby/debian900 as one example. Dec 28 14:18:38 Thanks sixwheeledbeast , and thanks to all who helped me) I today goal day test my knowledge and phone Dec 28 14:18:52 once even almost killed the phone ) Dec 28 14:19:59 there is a good community , good luck to all ) Dec 28 14:22:42 http://maemo.org/packages/view/penpen/ so close, yet so fart Dec 28 14:25:04 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/PenPen_testbutt.png NSFLWIDT Dec 28 14:25:21 usable if you don't plan on ever erasing any stroke Dec 28 14:34:45 vahe: you can run devuan with a mainline kernel Dec 28 14:35:01 there's a wiki page about it Dec 28 14:35:58 https://wiki.maemo.org/Devuan_on_N900 Dec 28 14:36:15 aha thanks bencoh i need read that Dec 28 14:39:44 bencoh: console only ? Dec 28 14:41:10 I suppose you can use Xorg with omapfb or omapdrm as well Dec 28 14:41:26 I think it should work Dec 28 14:42:43 aha ok Dec 28 14:43:11 I have a stupid question ) for example Dec 28 14:43:21 `I first cloned mainline (or rather stable) kernel: ' Dec 28 14:43:51 this process is done in the phone ? or on my PC Dec 28 14:43:59 bencoh: * :) Dec 28 14:44:17 pc Dec 28 15:40:43 vahe: there is devuan jessie n900 image Dec 28 15:42:10 https://devuan.org/index.html#download Dec 28 15:43:44 memory tels me it is CLI only, yes? Dec 28 15:44:10 yes, but repos are enabled so you can easily install lxde or xfce or whatever Dec 28 15:44:27 or leste ;) Dec 28 15:45:10 interesting Dec 28 15:45:23 I was hard for all of this , I don't understand how it all works Dec 28 15:45:49 is it usable by chroot switch or do I have to do the... errrrr... what was that thing called Dec 28 15:45:50 vahe: just grab the devuan image and write it to uSD card Dec 28 15:45:54 I don't understand, where or what to copy Dec 28 15:45:57 rescue OS? Dec 28 15:46:23 vahe: https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_jessie/embedded/devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img.xz Dec 28 15:46:43 okay, I have a 2GB SD card, free phone for testing Dec 28 15:47:15 hmm, not sure if 2GB will be enough, don;t remember the image size Dec 28 15:47:23 but it might be Dec 28 15:47:47 vahe: you would need to install u-boot on n900 (in maemo) as well Dec 28 15:47:52 and my operating system of my laptop is funtoo OS (gentoo) Dec 28 15:47:56 how it can be installed directly in 32GB Nokia? :D Dec 28 15:48:10 say direct connect Dec 28 15:48:19 vahe: should not matter, any modern OS should be capable of writing image to uSD Dec 28 15:48:31 ok :) Dec 28 15:48:59 vahe: you can't install it to 32GB internal flash Dec 28 15:49:16 at least not easlily Dec 28 15:49:27 ready downloaded Dec 28 15:49:32 it is prepared to boot from uSD Dec 28 15:49:49 ok, boot your n900 in maemo and install u-boot (from Application Manager) Dec 28 15:50:05 in the meanwhile write that image to uSD card Dec 28 15:50:15 i want try 2GB if not 4GB buy tomorrow Dec 28 15:50:16 :) Dec 28 15:50:26 u-boot, done Dec 28 15:50:34 what is size requirement for the image? Dec 28 15:50:37 I have 2gm Dec 28 15:50:40 *2gb Dec 28 15:50:42 can;t remember :) Dec 28 15:50:55 should suffice Dec 28 15:50:56 155mb Dec 28 15:51:03 can it be mounted as an image file directly? Dec 28 15:51:05 no, it is 155MB compressed Dec 28 15:51:09 without writing to SD? Dec 28 15:51:13 yes Dec 28 15:51:30 162 Dec 28 15:51:34 162mb :) Dec 28 15:51:47 it has partition table, etc, so it can be mounted as loopback device Dec 28 15:51:58 vahe: this is compressed size Dec 28 15:52:14 no Dec 28 15:52:17 uncompress it to see the real image size Dec 28 15:52:27 uncompress 162.3mb Dec 28 15:52:27 decompressing xz on n900 isnt fun, so use your pc Dec 28 15:52:42 yes, on the pc Dec 28 15:52:58 * freemangordon is downloading the image Dec 28 15:53:21 image done Dec 28 15:53:27 next? Dec 28 15:53:30 dd? Dec 28 15:53:31 how bit it is? Dec 28 15:53:40 162mb uncompress Dec 28 15:53:44 1.3gb Dec 28 15:53:56 vahe: don't you have GUI on that PC? Dec 28 15:54:05 yes mate-desktop Dec 28 15:54:22 there is a tool called "disk image writer" under ubuntu Dec 28 15:54:34 what precautions should I take with u-boot? Dec 28 15:54:35 can't help with gentoo or whatever it is :) Dec 28 15:54:38 etcher Dec 28 15:54:47 CatButts: ?!? Dec 28 15:54:49 I can write with dd Dec 28 15:54:52 I have cssu-testing and power kernel installed Dec 28 15:54:53 it's nice because it also verifies writes Dec 28 15:55:09 *precautions with installing u-boot Dec 28 15:55:10 KotCzarny: not really good idea for uSD writes Dec 28 15:55:27 CatButts: usual, don;t if you have no clue :) Dec 28 15:55:36 fmg: you should talk to tkaiser one day, would be fun :> Dec 28 15:55:38 TOO LATE Dec 28 15:55:47 KotCzarny: about? Dec 28 15:56:07 about etcher, and i guess embedded in general Dec 28 15:56:14 ~etcher Dec 28 15:56:17 dd if=devuan_jessie_1.0.0_armhf_n900.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=64K ; sync Dec 28 15:56:23 same Dec 28 15:56:38 don't mind me, it's humorous (he is very vocal expressing his views) Dec 28 15:56:39 should do the job I guess Dec 28 15:57:07 in armbian they have had lots of people with sh*tty sd card and sd writers Dec 28 15:57:16 KotCzarny: I vaguely remember seeing that nick, but can't really recall in what regard Dec 28 15:57:26 that's why he is stuck on etcher vs dd Dec 28 15:57:39 ah Dec 28 15:58:28 well, I tend to always buy expensive (and presumably quality) cards and expect the others to behave like that :) Dec 28 15:58:51 hehe, try kingston class 4 one day, or some fake ;) Dec 28 15:59:10 I doubt I will buy kingston for the next 10 years Dec 28 15:59:15 ;) Dec 28 15:59:28 sammy or sandisk only Dec 28 15:59:33 yup Dec 28 15:59:41 and even then you should be careful Dec 28 15:59:43 a1/a2 class are interesting nowadays Dec 28 15:59:49 for running os from sd Dec 28 16:00:11 sequential read often suck, but random io isnt bad Dec 28 16:00:29 which is better than the opposite ;) Dec 28 16:01:25 http://31.135.195.151:20280/notes/iozone-benchmarks/sandisk-ultra-16gb-squar-thinkpad-x40-usb2-reader.txt Dec 28 16:01:38 this is benchmark of ~12usd sandisk a1 Dec 28 16:01:41 16gb Dec 28 16:01:51 see 4k random writes Dec 28 16:02:22 yeah, not bad Dec 28 16:03:23 hmmm Dec 28 16:03:28 can't install uboot Dec 28 16:03:44 CatButts: why? Dec 28 16:04:05 "!!!U-Boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 breaks the 3rd party package policy" Dec 28 16:04:13 https://spyurk.am/posts/4d574170edf6013484f0746d04923301 :D my phones Dec 28 16:05:09 CatButts: install u-boot for kernel-power Dec 28 16:05:27 * freemangordon checks Dec 28 16:06:32 CatButts: install kernel-power-bootimg first Dec 28 16:06:41 did Dec 28 16:06:54 and u-boot still refuses to install? Dec 28 16:07:25 yes Dec 28 16:07:33 maybe I need reboot Dec 28 16:07:36 try with apt-get -s install u-boot-flasher u-boot-tools and pastebin the result Dec 28 16:07:57 h,, where is Pali Dec 28 16:08:01 ~seen Pali Dec 28 16:08:03 pali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 57d 18h 36m 36s ago, saying: 'ok'. Dec 28 16:08:11 what?!? Dec 28 16:08:19 time flies.. Dec 28 16:08:34 :( Dec 28 16:10:40 meow Dec 28 16:12:34 https://pastebin.com/vXTQshXZ Dec 28 16:12:54 resluts Dec 28 16:13:20 I don;t see a problem here Dec 28 16:13:27 are you sure you're on kernel-power? Dec 28 16:13:37 may I have your uname -a output? Dec 28 16:14:42 uname -a Dec 28 16:15:36 errrr Dec 28 16:15:41 I think that misspasted Dec 28 16:15:43 lol Dec 28 16:16:07 uname -a\nYada yada yada Dec 28 16:16:45 Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux Dec 28 16:17:02 looks ok Dec 28 16:17:18 so why is package yelling at me? Dec 28 16:17:20 could you try to install it again from HAM and pastebin HAM log? Dec 28 16:17:39 how do I get hold of HAM log? Dec 28 16:17:47 from HAM menu Dec 28 16:18:13 there is "Log" in there Dec 28 16:18:29 got it Dec 28 16:20:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4&t=38s hold this while I tinker Dec 28 16:22:07 there's not much to it Dec 28 16:22:43 apt-worker: u-boot-flasher breaks 3rd party dependencies policy: Dec 28 16:24:03 and...? Dec 28 16:24:07 what next Dec 28 16:24:42 doesn't say anything after that line Dec 28 16:25:16 did you have uninstalled stock kernel modules by chance? Dec 28 16:25:25 *uninstall Dec 28 16:26:02 however (re perfect tense) Dec 28 16:26:33 * CatButts scratches head Dec 28 16:26:45 check in /lib/modules Dec 28 16:27:00 what am I looking for? Dec 28 16:27:01 or dpkg -l | grep kernel Dec 28 16:27:06 omap1 Dec 28 16:29:08 CatButts: do you have kernel-modules installed? Dec 28 16:30:23 https://pastebin.com/7kN4hsDT Dec 28 16:31:37 I do Dec 28 16:32:18 MaemoButts: hmm, it is weird that you have kernel-flasher installed, I don;t have it on my device Dec 28 16:32:53 also, I don't have "kernel" package Dec 28 16:33:05 it is a mistery Dec 28 16:33:22 maybe because I have kernel-cssu installed Dec 28 16:33:37 and iirc it replaces kernel Dec 28 16:33:37 not a mystery, you did bad things to your device and the result is unstable Dec 28 16:33:49 meow Dec 28 16:33:53 extras-devel and cssu-devel come to mind Dec 28 16:34:16 I have both enabled Dec 28 16:34:23 * MaemoButts hides Dec 28 16:35:25 MaemoButts: well, byte the bullet and install with apt-get Dec 28 16:35:33 'bite' Dec 28 16:35:40 ah, yes :D Dec 28 16:35:44 I am tempted to go ahead with uboot ins... read my mind Dec 28 16:36:52 KotCzarny: I guess this is some kind of developer's weirdness, dealing with bytes all the day (and most of the night) :) Dec 28 16:37:17 fmg, yeah, english is unnecesarily complicated Dec 28 16:37:35 uboot flashed Dec 28 16:38:10 wish me luck on the reboot Dec 28 16:38:33 bets on him needing to reflash, anyone? Dec 28 16:38:34 ;) Dec 28 16:38:45 CatButts: did you set default kernel to KP? Dec 28 16:39:17 dunno, will check Dec 28 16:39:19 just in case: Dec 28 16:39:22 ~flashing Dec 28 16:39:23 methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing Dec 28 16:39:26 :p Dec 28 16:40:59 meow Dec 28 16:41:02 shucks, he lives Dec 28 16:41:20 looks like, curiosity didn't kill the cat Dec 28 16:41:22 yet... Dec 28 16:41:52 hmmmm Dec 28 16:42:02 defaults to stock kernel Dec 28 16:42:06 I need to fix this Dec 28 16:42:26 so I installed 'power kernel' for uboot Dec 28 16:43:18 guys, so, I installed u-boot, kernel-power "linux-kernel for power" and "linux kernel user (boot image for U-boot)" Dec 28 16:43:33 uname -a Dec 28 16:44:04 CatButts: yes, it defaults to stock, you need to tell it to use kp by symlinking something in /etc/bootmenu (or similar) as default Dec 28 16:44:39 Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l unknown Dec 28 16:44:45 CatButts: * Dec 28 16:45:17 vahe: did you reboot after installing? Dec 28 16:45:55 yes Dec 28 16:47:14 something wrong? Dec 28 16:47:21 freemangordon: * :) Dec 28 16:47:41 ok, power the device down, insert uSD card with devuan image, open the keyboard and poer it up Dec 28 16:47:53 when you see u-boot menu, choose u-boot console Dec 28 16:48:08 then type "run sdboot" Dec 28 16:48:08 ~uboot Dec 28 16:48:08 N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 Dec 28 16:48:15 mmmm, siamese Dec 28 16:49:42 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 found the fucker Dec 28 16:49:57 ln -s /etc/bootmenu.d/20-Maemo5-kernel-power-2.6.28.10-power51.item /etc/default/bootmenu.item Dec 28 16:49:58 freemangordon: power button and up? together? Dec 28 16:50:19 vahe: no Dec 28 16:50:26 just power it Dec 28 16:50:38 CatButts: yep, that one Dec 28 16:50:49 just turn on Maemo Dec 28 16:50:58 yes, but with keyboard open Dec 28 16:51:07 you should see u-boot menu Dec 28 16:52:40 strange still turns on Maemo Dec 28 16:52:55 then you don;t have u-boot installed correctly Dec 28 16:53:11 or rather - at all Dec 28 16:53:23 aha possible Dec 28 16:55:10 wtf Dec 28 16:55:15 my date reset Dec 28 16:55:54 CatButts: removed battery? Dec 28 16:56:06 don't remember doing so Dec 28 16:57:30 vahe: how it is going? Dec 28 17:00:54 don't know yet :D Dec 28 17:01:14 right now, I'll try again Dec 28 17:01:48 freemangordon: maybe img is not correct , but still should appear a menu right? Dec 28 17:01:54 yes Dec 28 17:03:53 fucker is still booting stock Dec 28 17:04:40 CatButts: you should execute u-boot-update-bootmenu Dec 28 17:04:46 killed OS :D Dec 28 17:04:57 vahe: hmm? Dec 28 17:05:00 today for the second time Dec 28 17:05:01 :D Dec 28 17:05:14 what has happened? Dec 28 17:05:55 no matter I have already copied to the computer Dec 28 17:06:43 I removed the kernel and rebooted ) I'm an idiot :D Dec 28 17:06:49 what kernel version is this denuvan? Dec 28 17:07:02 4.10 iirc Dec 28 17:07:06 thought stores stock :D Dec 28 17:07:16 nice Dec 28 17:07:43 CatButts: for sure it is 4.x, might be 4.8 or 4.9 Dec 28 17:07:45 hehe Dec 28 17:08:05 vahe: do you see u-boot menu? Dec 28 17:08:10 what's missing in terms of hardware support? Dec 28 17:08:38 I killed the operating system has reinstalled the OS Dec 28 17:08:51 CatButts: not sure, however, in upstream almost everything works, besides bluetooth, DSP and cameras Dec 28 17:09:07 DSP? Dec 28 17:09:14 ~DSP Dec 28 17:09:14 dsp is, like, (Digital Signal Processor) A DSP is a microprocessor designed to work with analog signals such as video or audio that have been digitally encoded. The DSP then takes these digital representations and performs operations on them. DSPs are used in video, sound, and modem technology. Intel's MMX instruction set is basically an attempt to make the Pentium processor line capable of DSP operations. This follows Intel's theory of putting all the ... Dec 28 17:09:15 does that mean sound output? Dec 28 17:09:33 DSP is DSP Dec 28 17:09:39 it means DSP Dec 28 17:10:35 CatButts: in omap3 DSP is http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/C64x%2B Dec 28 17:10:50 no, I mean Dec 28 17:11:07 lack of support for it doesn't exclude sound output, yes? Dec 28 17:11:20 yes, those are independent Dec 28 17:11:24 good Dec 28 17:11:34 softFP or hardFP? Dec 28 17:11:57 this is about userspace, not the kernel itself Dec 28 17:12:06 yes Dec 28 17:12:15 the above denuvan Dec 28 17:12:20 hardfp Dec 28 17:12:34 BTW, it is "devuan" ;) Dec 28 17:12:35 bueno Dec 28 17:12:45 devuvuan Dec 28 17:13:18 methinks 2gb will be woefully little for anything Dec 28 17:13:52 I need a beefier SD Dec 28 17:13:57 CatButts: you can use arm-sdk to build your own image Dec 28 17:14:47 CatButts: https://github.com/dyne/arm-sdk Dec 28 17:15:33 not that hard into DIY yet Dec 28 17:15:34 lol Dec 28 17:15:41 I am a windows peasant Dec 28 17:15:47