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Feb 11 22:59:22 <Oksana> >>  smartphones just get out of date because of needlessly more and more bloated websites << There are several things that can be done to mitigate. Such as, /etc/hosts adblocking [ give-mee-no-ads-cli ], as well as in-browser blocking of third-party js/images/cookies . Of course, a newer version of
Feb 11 22:59:22 <Oksana> browser engine would be better to handle super-modern web-sites... And if possible, cache may help [no need to load this image several times in a row].
Feb 11 23:04:25 <DocScrutinizer05> wait what? sailfish is sold now, as commercial software?
Feb 11 23:07:10 <APic> Selfish?
Feb 11 23:07:11 <DocScrutinizer05> lol. So it's not FOSS anymore at all?
Feb 11 23:07:27 <DocScrutinizer05> sellfish, yeah
Feb 11 23:09:07 <DocScrutinizer05> from Nokia hw manuf to Nokia failing with producing software to jolla shipping rebranded OEM phones with a (mostly) FOSS OS to Jolla (failing soon?) producing software
Feb 11 23:09:44 <DocScrutinizer05> makes so much sense
Feb 11 23:10:04 <DocScrutinizer05> NOT
Feb 11 23:11:36 <DocScrutinizer05> or do they still run that sailfish thing as mostly FOSS? and only charge for "packaging" like linux distros like Suse did?
Feb 11 23:14:22 <Wizzup> sailfish was never full foss
Feb 11 23:17:56 * APic can remember the Fuckers promised a Navigation-System
Feb 11 23:18:06 <APic> Now we just got modrana
Feb 11 23:18:10 <APic> Which stopped working here
Feb 11 23:19:47 <DocScrutinizer05> on jolla?
Feb 11 23:21:05 <DocScrutinizer05> why modrana stopped working, no matter where?
Feb 11 23:24:13 <DocScrutinizer05> aah, which routing does modrana use? off-board?
Feb 11 23:24:26 <APic> No Idea.
Feb 11 23:29:12 <DocScrutinizer05> I see...  >> online routing -> using Google Directions<<
Feb 12 00:35:09 <Oksana> open-source doesn't always equal free of charge; packaging and customer support might be pay-for. Besides, "ready to go" installation for a device probably includes some closed-source blobs.
Feb 12 01:06:51 <pkill9> i don't mind that, as long as i can install it manually for free :P
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