**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 03 03:00:01 2018
Mar 03 15:01:00 <enyc> xes,warfare: apparently you look after maemo.org sites =)
Mar 03 15:01:23 <enyc> was wondering if i can help IPv6-enabling maeme.org servers..
Mar 03 15:14:08 <Juesto> ;)
Mar 03 15:14:34 <Juesto> enyc idk but that might have not pinged
Mar 03 15:15:09 <Juesto> because it's together and not spaced
Mar 03 16:31:21 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: bencoh: any perl-foo?
Mar 03 16:31:25 <warfare> Juesto: it did :) enyc, its on our roadmap anyway, we just need to find the time..
Mar 03 16:31:32 <KotCzarny> maybe, though little time
Mar 03 16:31:47 <KotCzarny> what is the question?
Mar 03 16:31:54 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: I am hitting a bug, but can;t understand why
Mar 03 16:32:06 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: https://github.com/maemo-leste/maemo-launcher/blob/master/debian/dh_maemolauncher#L70
Mar 03 16:32:43 <freemangordon> it executes the binary, instead of just adding the content of a text file to that @binaries array
Mar 03 16:33:01 <freemangordon> text file contains a filename
Mar 03 16:33:23 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: https://github.com/Debian/debhelper/blob/a0834af437096271404e29b1bb029f5d11793262/lib/Debian/Debhelper/Dh_Lib.pm#L1232
Mar 03 16:33:31 <freemangordon> is what filearray does
Mar 03 16:33:45 <Juesto> would like to get started on wiki too tbh
Mar 03 16:34:36 <freemangordon> oh shit!
Mar 03 16:34:43 <freemangordon> KotCzarny: scratch that
Mar 03 16:34:46 <KotCzarny> :)
Mar 03 16:35:17 <KotCzarny> glad i could help
Mar 03 16:35:30 <freemangordon> :D
Mar 03 16:36:09 <KotCzarny> compat? ;)
Mar 03 16:37:25 <freemangordon> no, it is just that config file is executable
Mar 03 17:39:37 <pkill9> does anyone use their n900 as a daily device?
Mar 03 17:39:58 <sicelo> yes
Mar 03 17:40:06 <Vajb> yes
Mar 03 17:40:24 <sicelo> i do. since i bought it back in 2011. 
Mar 03 17:40:28 <pkill9> i caved and got a cheap androd phone because I need reliable access to websites
Mar 03 17:40:33 <pkill9> android*
Mar 03 17:40:51 <pkill9> and maemo is waay out of date
Mar 03 17:40:53 <sicelo> what sites? pr0nhub? :P
Mar 03 17:41:03 <pkill9> hostelbookers.com
Mar 03 17:42:09 <pkill9> there's always small issues, like it not accepting website certificates
Mar 03 17:42:13 <pkill9> ah well
Mar 03 17:42:33 <sicelo> fact is .. yes a lot won't work on maemo anymore
Mar 03 17:42:52 <pkill9> i got a samsung galaxy 'style' (one of the samsung galaxy ace 4 phones) for 50 pounds aka 56 Euros aka 70 US dollars
Mar 03 17:43:13 <sicelo> iafrikan.com for example can't be opened from microb, opera, nor fennec
Mar 03 17:43:41 <sicelo> but i find at least 80% of my browsing is still possible on N900
Mar 03 17:43:54 <sicelo> anyway, that's just me
Mar 03 17:45:04 <Juesto> you can just loosen the certificate policy
Mar 03 17:45:13 <Juesto> or update the cert database
Mar 03 17:45:24 <pkill9> probably, but there's other issues like slow loading etc
Mar 03 17:45:41 <Juesto> but what about browser capabilities?
Mar 03 17:45:42 <sicelo> i have an S4 which eventually lost IMEI that my father gave me. I use it with wifi for WhatsApp only, and banking app
Mar 03 17:45:44 <pkill9> or opera/firefox will just crash
Mar 03 17:45:53 <Juesto> it is like using firefox 3.6 on pc?
Mar 03 17:46:09 <Juesto> on microb that is
Mar 03 17:46:19 <Juesto> is opera any better?
Mar 03 17:46:22 <sicelo> cert db i not enough ... maemo browsers don't support most encryption standards in place today
Mar 03 17:46:25 <pkill9> opera is better
Mar 03 17:46:32 <pkill9> it has a nice interface for tabs
Mar 03 17:46:42 <Juesto> TLS, etc?
Mar 03 17:46:43 <pkill9> better than microb imo
Mar 03 17:46:58 <sicelo> yes Juesto 
Mar 03 17:47:04 <pkill9> firefox also has better tab interface than microb, not sure if i prefer it over opera's tho
Mar 03 17:47:16 <pkill9> but opera seems smoother
Mar 03 17:47:27 <pkill9> so assuming it doesn't crash, i prefer using opera on n900
Mar 03 17:47:37 <Juesto> how well is microb vs Firefox i mean how newer is Firefox?
Mar 03 17:48:01 <pkill9> firefox is newer i'd assume, but still out of date
Mar 03 17:48:03 <sicelo> in order of precedence, my browsing experience is MicrobB, Fennec, Opera
Mar 03 17:48:12 <pkill9> i haven't tried Fennec
Mar 03 17:48:27 <sicelo> maybe that's what you're calling Firefox?
Mar 03 17:48:59 <pkill9> maybe
Mar 03 17:49:11 <pkill9> i assume so :P
Mar 03 17:49:55 <sicelo> microb is firefox too however :)
Mar 03 17:51:24 <pkill9> oh interesting didn't know that
Mar 03 17:53:23 <sicelo> type `about:` in microb and see :)
Mar 03 18:05:38 <Juesto> yes fennec is firefox mobile and probably what's been referring to by firefox
Mar 03 18:23:36 <pkill9> yeah i was referring to firefox mobile
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