**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 28 03:00:01 2018 Mar 28 11:59:46 i've left whatsapp again (and happy) ... samsung phone fell down and screen broke. i won't be repairing it as it already has an IMEI issue as well .. so not worth Mar 28 12:00:02 :) Mar 28 12:00:26 sell samsung for parts and buy more n900 devices? Mar 28 12:04:56 yeah, that's'd be great. actually if this side of the world i could find somoene with a working N900, I could buy it from them right away Mar 28 12:05:08 * sicelo checks himself .. speaking like a fanboy Mar 28 12:05:12 want me to deal few for you? Mar 28 12:08:22 sounds tempting, but i still have the two challenges 1) shipping, 2) sending money to EU Mar 28 12:08:38 paypal? Mar 28 12:09:30 needs credit card, which needs rich guys here :p Mar 28 12:09:56 got any friends travelling to eu soon? Mar 28 12:11:12 not that i know of at the momment, but could check Mar 28 12:12:22 how much are they roughly? Mar 28 12:12:28 random Mar 28 12:12:38 depending on condition Mar 28 12:12:50 could go from 20 to 60usd Mar 28 12:13:26 60 would be near mint? Mar 28 12:14:01 likely Mar 28 12:16:25 good price Mar 28 12:16:49 i should see if something could work out Mar 28 13:05:55 wow, only just figured out IM. I created 2 accounts (@xmpp.jp) & my 2 n900 work together well. I'm in awe, just like the 1st time I tried FMTX in my car, haha Mar 28 13:11:49 is group chat possible? Would I need a plugin? Mar 28 13:20:12 hehe :) Mar 28 13:28:37 mmm, late news, but this sounds terrible, https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/27/google-confirms-blocking-google-apps-uncertified-android-devices-heres-deal/ Mar 28 13:29:01 dont worry Mar 28 13:29:10 it's a crack up on cheap chinese phone vendors Mar 28 13:31:38 and custom ROMs, seemingly Mar 28 13:31:50 nope Mar 28 13:32:16 users who know how to install custom rom will have a way to go through the activation Mar 28 13:33:02 it's mostly hitting cheap unlicensed phones/tablets and their 'i know nothing about computers' userbase Mar 28 13:34:33 we need Neo900 already :) Mar 28 13:41:33 mike727: N900's IM solution (telepathy) can connect to conference rooms, if that's what you were asking Mar 28 13:41:59 can it create those rooms too? Mar 28 13:42:38 i doubt - never tried Mar 28 13:52:05 ok. I've been using Jabber (internal client) and now I'm trying Pidgin (app client), both using the @xmpp.jp address. I'm guessing Telepathy is not a client? Mar 28 13:54:20 Conversations ... what you call Jabber (internal client) Mar 28 13:54:52 telepathy is the framework Mar 28 13:55:39 hehe okay, thanks :) Mar 28 14:07:33 I was referring to 'group conversation' with my contacts. The n900 manual says some 'IM services' support group conversation, it seems Jabber is not one of them. Mar 28 15:09:45 okey two phonecalls two frozes of omp. I guess that might count as an issue. I was listening to music via bluetooth headset. Answered a call and after the call omp played few seconds and wont play i beat unless i restart it. Has anyone else had that? Mar 28 15:10:03 play a beat* Mar 28 15:10:15 maybe audio device reconfiguration error? Mar 28 15:12:30 no idea. About the cause Mar 28 15:12:58 but happened twice in a week and there was atleas one reboot of a device inbetween Mar 28 15:13:10 atleast+ Mar 28 15:13:20 sigh, atleast* Mar 28 15:14:50 in the other notes, I installed bluemaemo again. Gonna impress my schoolmates after easter with n900 and galaxy tab :) Mar 28 15:18:35 duh, mike keeps disconnecting. group conversation on xmpp does work with Conversation Mar 28 15:18:50 you just have to restart conversation after adding a xmpp account Mar 28 15:18:54 adding/enabling Mar 28 16:24:16 is there a way to show titles in desktop shortcuts? Mar 28 16:24:27 s/desktop/homescreen Mar 28 16:25:04 edit icons by overlaying them with text? Mar 28 16:25:15 imagemagick can automate it Mar 28 16:25:16 :) Mar 28 16:25:17 i mean, show text underneatht hem Mar 28 16:25:24 i guess that could work also Mar 28 16:25:47 i'm surprised anyone can still use the n900 for graphical internet stuff Mar 28 16:25:59 way too slow for me, i;'ve resigned to using it just for phoen stuff + terminal stuff Mar 28 16:26:05 phone* Mar 28 16:26:29 you need to slow down your life Mar 28 16:26:37 hehe Mar 28 16:26:44 ever used win95 on 386? Mar 28 16:27:05 actually it's also the gps Mar 28 16:27:17 mayb mine is just dead Mar 28 16:27:33 win95 can run on 386dx, 20mhz Mar 28 16:27:37 stop whining! Mar 28 16:27:39 ;) Mar 28 16:28:06 (4mb min, 8mb reccomended) Mar 28 16:37:35 I'm not really talking about the software, but the connectivity hardware like wifi and gps Mar 28 16:38:08 nor the processing hardware e.g. ram and cpu Mar 28 16:38:26 wifi should work for a few years still Mar 28 16:38:47 aactually not the wifi, i find that fine, i mean the mobile internet e.g. 3G Mar 28 16:39:00 so really, just 3G and gps, lol Mar 28 16:39:23 same, still few years before they start obsoleting it Mar 28 16:44:52 dillo is fine for reading news Mar 28 17:13:40 gps should work ... at least wfm - just be sure to have updated cerman packages Mar 28 17:16:26 wfm? Mar 28 17:42:28 works for me :) Mar 28 17:46:56 ah Mar 28 17:49:45 what's cerman? Mar 28 17:49:53 certificate manager? Mar 28 17:56:02 sorry yes, meant 'certman' - certificate manager Mar 28 19:49:41 i felt so overwhelmed when i visited strange city and asked for a map :D Mar 28 19:50:05 plus i got one and managed to find my destination Mar 28 23:45:24 so, tonight i was out and about and tested mobile internet and gps, and they were fine :) Mar 28 23:45:38 gps wasn't working only because I was trying to use it indoors lol Mar 29 00:09:26 My internet keeps dropping, I'm glad there is chat log. Mar 29 00:09:35 What 'IM services' (https://i.imgur.com/6YgNEge.png) would I need to use with my XMPP account (@xmpp.jp), to have 'Group Conversation' (https://i.imgur.com/UYEJ2d6.png)? Mar 29 00:12:15 I've been using Jabber and found how to use chat rooms. It seems Jabber doesn't give the option for 'group conversation'. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 29 03:00:03 2018