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Apr 24 05:18:02 <Vajb> hmm I am not sure if I like the idea of HD cameras everywhere. No matter how much electricty they use.
Apr 24 05:18:42 <Vajb> but nice acheivement from them.
Apr 24 05:51:46 <buZz> you rather want them to be 4K?
Apr 24 05:52:57 <buZz> lol 'battery-free streaming'
Apr 24 05:53:05 <Vajb> think I'll wait 'till it's 32K ;)
Apr 24 05:53:25 <buZz> its battery-free, by depending on batteries
Apr 24 05:53:26 <buZz> derp
Apr 24 05:54:17 <Vajb> if it were powersourceless, that would be something
Apr 24 05:54:55 <buZz> i dont understand why they replaced 'transmit' with 'backscattters'
Apr 24 05:55:37 <Vajb> Im not familiar with either
Apr 24 05:55:39 <buZz> > In physics, backscatter (or backscattering) is the reflection of waves, particles, or signals back to the direction from which they came.
Apr 24 05:55:42 <buZz> they are not doing that
Apr 24 05:56:31 <Vajb> then it doesn't sound correct term
Apr 24 05:57:59 <buZz> ah, they call it backscatter, because they send a radio signal pure for power transmission to power transmitting something back
Apr 24 05:58:06 <buZz> so it kinda looks like backscatter 
Apr 24 05:59:21 <buZz> 16 feet distance powered a batteryless camera enough from a 'cellphone' for a 10fps 480p video
Apr 24 06:00:10 <buZz> oh, also 8bit grayscale instead of color
Apr 24 06:01:55 <buZz> wow at even lower res they get even more impressive, 13fps 112x112 at 150 feet O_o
Apr 24 09:12:52 <Vajb> ah it uses same technic as that batteryless "mobilephone". Draws power from radiosignal.
Apr 24 09:13:32 <Vajb> i put it in quotes since it is just a cirquitboard atm.
Apr 24 10:19:25 <Maxdamantus> Pretty sure it'll use a lot more power.
Apr 24 10:20:28 <Maxdamantus> and I'm not really sure what the use case of a wireless security camera (which needs to have another device to communicate with, probably in plain sight) is.
Apr 24 10:24:07 <Maxdamantus> on the surface, it at least seems a lot more advanced than the last article I saw about backscatter technology.
Apr 24 10:24:46 <Maxdamantus> which was described as something like "powerless WiFi" using "backscatter techniques involving electromagnetic radiation"
Apr 24 10:25:34 <Maxdamantus> translation: using a camera to determine how an object is currently reflecting light
Apr 24 10:26:31 <Maxdamantus> (or rather, a radio, but easier to visualise what sort of information is being transmitted if you just remember that cameras also capture electromagnetic radiation)
Apr 24 11:03:15 <sixwheeledbeast> in an industry that is driven by increasing pixel density to reduce cost, I fail to see where 13fps 112res will fit.
Apr 24 11:04:37 <sixwheeledbeast> PoE has made these systems PnP with relatively small cost upto 100m
Apr 24 11:18:56 <bencoh> Yeah, but PoE seems kinda ... simpler :)
Apr 24 11:19:03 <bencoh> Or at least easier to achieve :)
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