**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 24 03:00:03 2018 May 24 05:22:37 if you were to avoid double booking would you focus on mysql constraint or java gui to accomblish this? (KotCzarny, yes it is a school project ;)) May 24 05:23:05 hmm is it accomplish? May 24 05:45:21 wow Oksana! May 24 05:47:23 * sicelo loves the sound when connecting a charger May 24 05:57:48 vajb: whats 'double booking' May 24 06:09:30 lol May 24 06:20:39 * Maxdamantus wonders what sound it's meant to make. May 24 06:21:10 maybe it doesn't have it on my system because I got it to stop showing the dialogue when plugging it in. May 24 06:21:17 * Maxdamantus can't remember how he did that. May 24 06:22:39 hmm, it probably gets enabled with 'system sounds' May 24 06:22:54 * KotCzarny hates phones beeping and twinking on touch May 24 06:24:15 KotCzarny: actually Wizzup's idea sounds good :). Someone to integrate lima with leste would be of great help, for example. May 24 06:24:27 I'm not a fan of random sounds when using UIs, though I like touch vibration. May 24 06:25:32 fmg: isnt it done already? also, i suspect it would require separate repo for that, i think mali blob doesnt have open copyright May 24 06:25:56 why separate repo? May 24 06:26:21 devuan doesnt have strict legal requirements? May 24 06:28:21 KotCzarny: I am not sure I get what you mean, however, leste repos are not hosted to devuan infra, but on maemo infra May 24 06:28:28 *hosted on May 24 06:28:45 also, mali blobs are on github May 24 06:29:05 ahm, havent checked in a long time May 24 06:29:42 BTW, does lima require blobs? May 24 06:30:10 I was under impression it is a proper drm driver May 24 06:30:19 with 3d support built-in May 24 06:30:23 if you talk about yuq's work, it's not entirely usable yet May 24 06:30:43 they posted a patch on lkml a few days ago May 24 06:31:30 yes, I know it might be not fully usable, but wvantually it will become May 24 06:31:44 *eventually May 24 06:31:52 yes, i hope for that too May 24 06:32:26 in the meanwhile we can at least check how "not ready" it is, by trying to run h-d on top :) May 24 06:33:40 TBH I think it will work as h-d doesn;t use that much of fancy GL stuff, besides some basic shaders and operations May 24 06:35:04 also I hope that seeing us trying to use that driver will give its authors additional reasoning to not give up May 24 06:35:25 i'm still wondering about yuq's motivation May 24 06:35:51 he came out of the blue with his work May 24 06:35:52 however, ATM neither me nor Wizzup have the time needed to spend on sunxi kernel/lima driver May 24 06:35:59 and it might even be against his amd work May 24 06:36:23 no idea May 24 06:36:41 but I think his work is based on older work don by some other guy May 24 06:37:18 s/older/previous May 24 06:37:33 sorry, still having my first coffee for the day :) May 24 06:39:02 :) May 24 07:48:41 huh May 24 08:41:43 KotCzarny: sorry that I left after my first remark, I was tired and wanted to think about what I was going to say ;) May 24 08:42:35 KotCzarny: basically it'd be nice to have someone work a bit on our sunxi port - so that'd be testing on a few sunxi devices, checking that the basic stuff works. mali and/or lima support would be very welcome (olimex olinuxino a20 with llvmpipe is a real pain for basically anything) May 24 08:43:09 KotCzarny: I also have quite a bunch of sunxi devices but I want to spend my time on writing sw that runs on all the devices we 'support'. Maybe you also have some clues as to nice/cool/useful devices. I have an a33 tablet somewhere. May 24 08:43:29 But practically, I think it'd be some kernel stuff, testing kernels/images/drivers, and write some stuff on the wiki :) May 24 08:43:55 KotCzarny: fwiw #maemo-leste exists, it might be good to take it there at some point if you're (somewhat) interested May 24 08:43:59 i have only a31 and a13 devices (regarding display featuring ones) May 24 08:44:12 but i could work on a20/h3 too May 24 08:44:27 since they could be easily supplemented with touchscreens May 24 08:44:58 I also have a lime2 with two different olimex touchscreens, the 4.3" and 7" ones May 24 08:45:17 I just haven't found the time to make them work (well really, work again, I had the 4.3" one working at some point) May 24 08:50:43 saved to TODO May 24 08:52:51 KotCzarny: ack, if you can join the channel that might also serve as a useful reminder ;) May 24 10:00:46 KotCzarny: The old CHIP seems to have A13 & Mali-400. do you think it would be worth something trying leste on it? or waste of time :) May 24 10:01:14 sure, n900 has much slower cpu, so leste should work May 24 10:01:55 i wonder how much of its hardware is mainlined (CHIP) May 24 10:02:00 a lot May 24 10:02:17 as usual: http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort#Status_Matrix May 24 10:03:02 in fact c.h.i.p. could make pretty awesome leste showcase May 24 10:04:44 mmm, i should dust mine off then. have two, but never really got time to use them May 24 10:06:26 and the mali 400 seems to be targetted in yuq's work, unless i don't follow correctly May 24 10:07:16 yes May 24 11:43:26 KotCzarny: it is project to make mysql database with java gui for fictional company renting holiday cabins. So i wanted something to avoid double booking May 24 11:43:40 but it works nowas intended May 24 11:44:03 took four hours to figure out how i can make it happen May 24 11:44:38 :) May 24 11:45:15 so i was searching for hint of where to look at May 24 11:45:49 since i had no idea in which level it would be most effective May 24 11:46:09 well, you would have to implement some session or reservation system May 24 11:46:21 but as of now gui shows list of cabins which are available in the day span that user wants to May 24 11:47:28 probably not wise solution since now it has to make three separate database queries when days and location are selected May 24 11:48:10 nut school is only evaluating things which work, not how they work May 24 11:48:15 but* May 24 11:51:24 work 100% correct first, optimize later May 24 11:52:56 it is about there :) May 24 11:53:14 expecting 5 for a grade ;) May 24 11:53:36 (on a scale 0-5) May 24 19:32:47 are there debuggers available in maemo? May 24 21:08:21 Juesto: yes, gdb May 24 21:10:49 ah right May 24 21:10:56 and for j2me apps! May 24 21:10:58 ? May 24 21:11:47 no idea May 24 21:12:19 oh well May 24 21:12:52 freemangordon: you're the leste leader right? May 24 21:13:51 lol May 24 21:15:27 I wouldn't say May 24 21:18:02 as I am not really sure what a "leader" would mean in the context of leste project May 24 21:21:05 fmg, maybe analogue of 'senior project manager' May 24 21:47:38 freemangordon: may i pm you? May 24 21:49:02 Maybe better tomorrow May 24 21:49:07 and earlier May 24 21:55:54 KotCzarny: CTO ;) May 24 21:57:05 balmer-of-maemo (bom) May 24 21:57:06 ;) May 24 22:07:26 spaghetti code is weaved May 25 00:22:55 * DocScrutinizer05 has weird ideas for next Lasagne, weaving fabric of spaghetti May 25 00:23:26 or even basketry May 25 00:24:30 8-D~ May 25 00:25:02 hmm, that became sth different than intended May 25 00:25:48 8-P°~ May 25 00:26:32 now it's official: pasta time May 25 01:44:01 cool **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 25 03:00:03 2018