**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 26 03:00:02 2018 May 26 03:23:59 Looks like the FF 24.8.1 ESR release is a good base to start from in regards to what Gecko tree we use May 26 03:51:55 Regarding screencasting : so far, I tried "load applet". It works, as in, records video. But when I ask Media Player to play the 41s video, I obverse: 1) moving image plays out way faster than audio; 2) audio misses last second or so. Is it problem with screencasting "load applet" or Media Player? May 26 03:52:57 And by the way, would be nice to split "load applet" into two different applets: 1) CPU/memory load monitor ; 2) screencasting. May 26 05:53:57 I never had much luck with load applet screencasts May 26 06:51:48 If someone asks how to replace points in their antiquated automotive vehicle propelled by a spark-ignition engine that uses a points distributor instead of electronic fuel ignition, is it really worth learning how to replace points and where to still acquire points if the much easier solution in the long term is to upgrade the vehicle to use electronic fuel ignition or to replace the vehicle with a less antiquated vehicle that already uses electronic fuel May 26 06:51:49 ignition? May 26 06:52:24 i the vehicle is reliable and hackable, sure May 26 06:52:44 as opposed to those break-after-guarantee-period 'new' ones May 26 07:03:23 What if someone asks how to use a 5.25-inch full-height HDD using ST-506 host interface (which requires a host controller only available on an ISA card) instead of ATA in an 80486 class or higher computer? Is it really worth it to use such antiquated storage technology instead of using an ATA host controller and 3.5-inch or smaller HDD or SSD? May 26 07:10:58 What if someone asks how to run Mac OS X on their m68k Macintosh? Do you tell them to run GNU+Linux for m68k so that they can run Mac OS X for PowerPC on a PowerPC computer emulated in software on an m68k computer? ;-) May 26 07:13:10 I mean using PearPC, which is a software emulation of a PowerPC computer that can technically run on GNU+Linux for m68k on an m68k Macintosh. May 26 07:16:52 What if someone asks how to run Windows 98 on an 80386 computer? Do you tell them to install Windows 98 on an 80486 or higher class of computer and move the drive to the 80386 computer after installation because Windows 98 can technically partially run on an 80386 but the installer will, by default, refuse to run on less than an 80486 class of computer? May 26 07:21:41 What if someone asks how to use a Nokia N900 with the cellular network of Telus Mobility, Bell Mobility, or any of their MVNOs in Canada, who use bands not supported by the cellular modem in the Nokia N900? ;-) May 26 07:22:33 what if someone tells you there are people using n900 and if you dont use, you shouldnt tell them what and how to use their n900? May 26 07:24:07 What if there were no hypothetical questions? May 26 07:31:07 I wonder if my dot-matrix impact computer printer from the 1980s that I got working with Windows 7 for x86-32 is still supported by Windows 10 for x86-64. May 26 07:41:37 People are going to what the best solution for there task, this is why as projects get older there are different views and directions to take. May 26 07:45:06 Regarding my last message, I am seriously finally trying it because I already have the printer installed on Windows 10. The printer still powers on and both Form Feed and Line Feed functions appear to work but without any paper. I just need to (re)learn how to insert paper in a printer that is around the same age as me (circa 1987). May 26 07:45:26 ~unbinip May 26 07:45:53 ~unbanip May 26 07:45:54 [unbanip] please contact techstaff maemo org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it May 26 07:46:00 :facepalm: May 26 07:47:52 I have both Letter and A4 sizes of copy paper even though I live in Canada. May 26 07:52:45 https://github.com/marxoft/qml-browser - is WebKit I believe May 26 07:54:45 I would rather not try and throw some who-knows-what fork of Webkit in there if we can get a newer mainline Gecko (with whatever local patches we need) in there instead. May 26 07:55:26 I dont see anything show-stopping preventing us getting FF24 going on Fremantle although I haven't yet dug all that deep into any ABI changes or the like May 26 07:56:06 thing being ancient for one? May 26 07:56:53 2015 May 26 08:00:38 I am assuming QWebkit from Qt4.x? May 26 08:03:18 Seriously, how do you insert a sheet of normal/friction-feed paper in a dot-matrix impact computer printer? The Paper Feed selector is already set to Friction Feed. I have old continuous/tractor-feed paper I can use if necessary (only in Letter, not A4, size, though) but I am trying to use a sheet of normal copy paper. May 26 08:51:00 I suspect the FF24 rendering engine will work with more websites than any QT 4.x webkit forks out there. Plus its mostly self contained and we wouldn't need to make all sorts of changes to our version of QT to get the needed features like TLS 1.2. May 26 08:51:20 The GTK changes we would need for FF24 are probably fairly small and easy to back port from a newer GTK. May 26 08:51:49 Getting TLS 1.2 in our QT means we need a new OpenSSL and that adds complications in terms of trying to have both 0.9x and 1.0 running at the same time. May 26 08:51:57 1.x rather May 26 09:29:57 jonwil: huh? I think that the qt4 webkit is up to date with most recent webkit May 26 09:30:05 oh, right, you mean maemo fremantle qt May 26 09:30:06 nvm May 26 09:34:03 I believe that getting FF24 running as a replacement for microb-engine is the best option. But that's just my opinion. May 26 09:39:41 I'm going to be excited if you can pull it off, but I have other things to work on, so I won't be able to help much May 26 18:06:47 Oksana: I'm running Leste in my laptop finally :) it's working nicely for the most part May 26 18:09:49 ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 27 03:00:02 2018