**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 29 03:00:04 2018 May 29 03:01:22 Windows 1 already supports a laser printer because Windows 1 includes a driver for the original HP LaserJet. May 29 03:03:45 KotCzarny: sicelo: I maxed out my Dell Latitude X1 with 2 GiB of main memory. What is the maximum amount of main memory for the ThinkPad X40? May 29 04:57:11 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X40 says that the maximum is 1.25 GiB or 1.5 GiB. May 29 05:06:14 PDF page number 70 of tawbook.pdf says basically the same. May 29 05:06:59 Same page also says that the chipset is Intel 855GME, will try to find specifications for that chipset. May 29 05:13:55 https://ark.intel.com/products/27705/Intel-82855GME-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller says that the maximum is 2 GiB, so I guess installing a 2-GiB SODIMM when the motherboard already has 256 MiB or 512 MiB fixed will not work? Apparently the ThinkPad X40 uses DDR1 SDRAM but the Latitude X1 uses DDR2 SDRAM. Does a 2-GiB DDR1 SDRAM SODIMM even exist? The Latitude X1 unofficially works with a 2-GiB SODIMM, which was not available when the Latitude X1 was May 29 05:13:56 released. May 29 05:19:39 :)huh May 29 05:20:48 https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=103935 May 29 05:21:59 Apparently a 2-GiB DDR1 SDRAM SODIMM does exist. May 29 05:38:19 ;) May 29 11:25:29 The FF24 code is getting closer to a full build, now I am stuck on some gstreamer stuff that I can't seem to figure out. May 29 11:25:50 can you just disable gstreamer support? May 29 11:30:51 I don't know what doing that would break May 29 11:31:18 most likely all audio output, but it's like you are going to use it for youtube on n900 May 29 11:31:25 or do you? May 29 11:32:22 funny thing, ff24 was the first one with enabled gstreamer support May 29 11:32:26 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794282 May 29 11:37:44 I suspect very few people care about media playback (audio/video/etc) in microb anyway May 29 11:38:13 related: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884651 May 29 11:38:26 just enabling gstreamer before ff26 triggered cpu hog bug May 29 11:39:41 Lets turn it off then and worry about any bustage caused by it later May 29 12:22:18 jonwil: native browser playback would be nice (html5 video and such) but I'd suggest disabling it meanwhile as well May 29 12:22:56 For now I have just disabled gstreamer and will see what happens and what builds. May 29 12:23:01 :) May 29 12:23:19 The amount of work required to get this building hasn't been anywhere near as much as I thought. May 29 12:24:30 Although building it is the easy part :) May 29 12:27:53 Figuring out how to make it work without breaking tablet-browser, rtcom-messaging-ui, nokia-maps and the other users of microb-engine is the hard part :) May 29 15:48:53 so i installed modrana again on my N900. how do i get maps offline? :-/ May 29 16:21:54 did you use the latest from github or the repo version? May 29 16:28:49 latest from gh May 29 16:29:25 does it actually work now? May 29 16:29:38 it works, which is actually very nice :) May 29 16:30:58 but yeah, i can't be connected to Internet all the time May 29 16:34:30 https://wiki.maemo.org/ModRana_offline_routing_guide May 29 16:35:29 same here May 29 16:36:57 does that give you maps? or something related to routing, etc.? May 29 16:39:39 na, a map pack downloader was a thing I was asking about, I don't believe it has been implemented. May 29 16:40:10 You have to use batch downloads menu to download an area. May 29 16:41:04 yeah, i thought so .. which is a bit of an issue when you expect to cover nearly 1000km May 29 16:41:15 hence i still rely on Ovi Maps :/ May 29 16:42:24 Alternatively you can use a PC to download the standard tiles and install them, I recall problems with sqlite regarding this but standard tiles will be fine. May 29 16:44:03 Maybe see what M4rtinK says on TMO regarding offline tile downloading, may look into it again. May 29 16:44:24 i will check . have any link? May 29 16:44:39 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58861 May 29 16:45:49 There maybe a copy of SMM10 floating about... May 29 16:46:22 heh, what's SMM10? May 29 16:49:03 ah, sygic? i've never used it. where does it get maps from? May 29 17:17:20 sixwheeledbeast: just noticed that modrana from GH doesn't show me what version it is :p May 29 17:17:37 even when run on pc May 29 18:22:37 sorrywas afk sicelo May 29 18:22:49 unknown version May 29 18:22:54 is normall May 29 18:23:50 SMM has maps with it maybe old now May 29 18:24:46 think you could update them IIRC May 29 18:25:22 recall android versions o fmaps used? May 30 00:05:18 Its gotten as far as linking libxul which is a major achievement. But its asserting somewhere in LD so now I have to find the LD source code and find out why its asserting there. May 30 00:20:44 Lets see if giving my dev VM 3.5GB of RAM (the most vmware will take) and a full 6GB of swap will help. May 30 00:22:44 definitely will May 30 00:26:31 I will say this though, if you ever want a good way to stress test your hardware, a full compile of Firefox is a good way to do it :) May 30 00:31:10 lol May 30 00:34:39 Its not using a single byte of swap but its definitely using the full 3.5GB of RAM May 30 00:43:00 eeh May 30 00:43:08 jonwil: did you swapon? May 30 00:43:14 yes I did May 30 00:43:21 free shows swap May 30 00:43:24 oh ok May 30 00:44:05 It didn't build and spat out lots of asserts but it also spat out some linker errors related to NeckoChild.o and NeckoParent.o. May 30 00:44:28 asserts in gnu LD I cant really do anything with, linker errors I can look into :) May 30 00:47:56 Oh huh May 30 00:48:06 well maybe it's just too complex to link May 30 00:48:46 The errors suggest there might be a code issue May 30 00:50:24 definitely May 30 02:39:19 I think I fixed it now, the missing functions were in mozilla::net::WebSocketChannelChild, mozilla::net::WyciwygChannelChild, mozilla::net::WyciwygChannelParent and mozilla::net::WebSocketChannelParent. After some analysis I managed to figure out that the neko protocol list wasn't enabling websocket or wyciwyg. That's fixed now so hopefully it will link and produce a usable libxul :) May 30 02:47:49 Apparently the Motorola Droid RAZR I is an x86 smartphone with an (AMO)LED display. It is the only x86 smartphone with an LED display I have found so far. May 30 02:57:36 sixwheeledbeast: sicelo: I used a warez copy of Sygic Mobile Maps for Maemo 5, do not remember which version of Sygic but I think I still have it in my Downloads directory. I can find some way of getting it to you if you want it. It was frustrating because it would not let me switch away from it while it was running even though Maemo has true multitasking. I actually had to exit it if I needed to use a different program while it was running. It was from May 30 02:57:36 some time between 2010 and 2014 because that was while I used an N900. Sygic removed references to Maemo from their Web site when Sygic discontinued the Maemo version of their product, which is a general practice I dislike. Companies such as Adobe still provide Acrobat Reader 1 for DOS from 1994 instead of trying to brick or hide their legacy products. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 30 03:00:02 2018