**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 10 03:00:01 2018 Aug 10 03:02:40 regarding the SPOF issue .. isn't the whole certificate system already subject to many points of failure? Aug 10 03:02:57 Everyone already trusts every root CA. Aug 10 03:03:43 Just have to hope that some CA doesn't authenticate some Iranian organisation or something as google.com Aug 10 22:06:40 Finally managed to install Fritzing on Nokia N900. Tkgate is not installable because it requires too high libc6 version, I think. Aug 10 22:08:03 Anybody wants to package Fritzing for Maemo? Just move .desktop file to suitable location and edit qt4 dependencies (all these 4:4.7.0 and 1:4.7.0 are making simple things complicated). Aug 10 22:08:53 Bonus for editing dependencies of libqt4-help from strict = to more comfortable >=. Fritzing depends on libqt4-help. Aug 10 22:09:58 And that's ancient Fritzing 0.6.3 from wheezy Aug 10 22:14:50 SparkFun... Let's see. Aug 10 22:15:30 Fritzing is quite slow. Should hildonise it some time... Aug 10 22:16:08 And Stellarium should become plug-in of 3D Mappero. Along with weather. Aug 10 22:17:03 And mbarcode should become plug-in of camera, if only to avoid switcheroo competition between them. Aug 10 22:17:32 Photos should become part of Media Player. Aug 10 22:18:37 Notes and Sketch could become one app. Aug 10 22:19:13 /me is a fan of decreasing length of app list Aug 10 22:24:36 Wikiwide what is it Fritzing for? Aug 10 22:28:15 Electrical circuits. Breadboard view, schematic view, PCB view. Aug 10 22:33:15 I imagine it takes some root space. I wouldn't want photos in my media player tbh Aug 10 22:34:19 Use leafpad for notes but would prefer pluma/gedit, switchroo can but hacked with cl-launcher Aug 10 22:34:28 s/but/be/ Aug 10 22:34:28 sixwheeledbeast meant: Use leafpad for notes be would prefer pluma/gedit, switchroo can but hacked with cl-launcher Aug 10 22:36:23 I installed Fritzing on my desktop it seemed to make little sense and installed files in odd locations IIRC. Aug 10 22:46:31 0.9.x seems to use 9Mb of root on desktop, well over the 0.3Mb allowed by Maemo QA. Aug 10 22:50:00 * Maxdamantus is a fan of not mashing pieces of software together into difficult-to-maintain monoliths, but is instead a fan of supporting the paradigm of having individual isolated lightweight applications/programs that tend to do one thing. Aug 10 22:50:51 If we have proper isolation of applications at some point, making things like mbarcode a plugin of camera might just be unnecessarily giving a bunch of possibly insecure plugins access to your photos. Aug 10 22:51:43 Wasn't there some bug in some messaging application in Android or something recently that sent people random photos from their library? Aug 10 22:52:19 https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/07/a-bug-in-samsungs-default-texting-app-is-sending-random-pics-to-other-people/ Aug 10 23:40:58 Cl-launcher is good point. I do not want monoliths - more like, plug-ins. Because mbarcode duplicates camera's functionality, to an extent. Aug 10 23:42:26 And yes, Fritzing alone takes 5MB of space. Hildonisation would be nice... Unless kicad can be installed, instead of Fritzing. Aug 11 01:47:26 And well-written app with plug-ins means that everything is sand-boxed. A plug-in doesn't do anything without user's informed permission. Cannot do anything. Aug 11 01:58:20 I think a well-written system will have the dependencies inverted compared to that. Aug 11 01:58:44 So the camera UI would be a service that an application like mbarcode can invoke. Aug 11 01:59:00 Instead of the camera UI being able to invoke some mbarcode plugin. Aug 11 02:00:18 Good point. Aug 11 02:26:13 is there anything like audacity for the n900 Aug 11 02:26:30 where can I search for software Aug 11 02:27:02 what's the latest version of maemo for the n900 Aug 11 02:55:40 flashpoint: I think oscp is meant to be something like that. Aug 11 02:56:13 (developed by KotCzarny; I haven't used it though, so not familiar .. I use mpd and qmpc) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 11 03:00:00 2018