**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 15 03:00:26 2018 Sep 15 05:29:59 heya Sep 15 05:31:36 hey Juesto Sep 15 05:42:03 what's up Sep 15 05:42:25 just moved a week ago :) Sep 15 05:43:45 nothing much. Waking up and planning my tcp server. You? Sep 15 05:58:11 https://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/125991-unreal-tournament-windows-screenshot-redeemer-in-remote-control.png Sep 15 05:58:11 x86 assembly language displayed while playing Unreal Tournament (1999)? Sep 15 06:01:54 It no longer matters in practice but I wonder if my Maemo 5 installation is very unresponsive because that el-v1.db (correct name?) file grew too large. I should check the size of this file out of curiosity. Sep 15 06:08:59 Wow, brolin-N900 still boots from battery after sitting powered off on the shelf for months. The battery is almost empty, though. Sep 15 06:18:59 Yes, apparently I correctly remembered the file name of this database. Sep 15 06:21:30 Eh, Maemo 5 does not have a “locate” command, at least not in the path? Sep 15 06:23:10 I will use find instead of locate. Sep 15 06:33:10 Apparently my el-v1.db file is 4 425 728 bytes long. Is that why Maemo 5 is so unresponsive for me, even right after booting, before running anything demanding? Sep 15 06:38:25 Wow, running free shows how badly the N900 needs more than 256 MiB of physical memory. Sep 15 06:40:21 Is it technically possible to have more than 256 MiB on the N900 motherboard, even if it requires replacing a fine-pitch BGA IC? Sep 15 06:47:08 brolin_empey: now delete bloated el-v1 and sense the speed :p Sep 15 06:47:53 i wish the history would be accessed/scanned only on request, not on app open Sep 15 07:06:15 isn't some of that controlled with tracker? Sep 15 07:07:01 contacts/sms db is different from tracker db i think Sep 15 07:08:12 as is tracker indexing some things from el file into it's own tracker db Sep 15 07:08:19 in Sep 15 07:26:29 brolin_empey: Right after booting, it is likely that "rtcom-messaging-ui" is eating 90-100% CPU, while scanning your message history. Sep 15 07:27:22 brolin_empey: With my 20 Mb el-v1, it takes around a minute. Sep 15 07:27:59 (from memory, I didn't try to time it exactly) Sep 15 07:45:25 I renamed my el-v1.db file and rebooted. I saved a screenshot showing the output of free before renaming the file and after rebooting. The physical memory usage seems mostly unchanged but the swap usage decreased dramatically from around 113 MB to around 5 MB. The GUI seems much more responsive during my limited testing but I still prefer my Galaxy Note 3 despite its lack of an integrated hardware keyboard. Sep 15 07:51:43 Apparently one thing my N900 can do that my Galaxy Note 3 in its current configuration cannot do is use a USB↔Ethernet adapter but my N900 can do that only because I am using the power kernel with my own patch from 2013 to add the USB identifiers missing from the driver in the 2.6.28 kernel. Sep 15 07:52:18 which is basically what maemo is about Sep 15 07:52:22 user freedom Sep 15 07:58:30 Granted, I rarely need Ethernet connectivity on a handheld computer but having it beats using a notebook computer for something a handheld computer can do. I also succeeded to use my N900 as a handheld serial terminal emulator using minicom and a USB↔RS232 serial adapter. I do not know if my Galaxy Note 3 in its current configuration can do this either but, again, the times I use this capability in practice are very few. Sep 15 08:02:58 The Android OS 4.4 from Samsung I use has the asix driver but I could not get my USB↔Ethernet adapter working. If I spent more time on this problem, possibly including switching to an unofficial distribution of the Android OS, I may succeed but I am hesitant to use an unofficial distribution of the Android OS again after my CyanogenMod installation broke itself, which is why I use the official distribution again. Sep 15 08:07:35 Theoretically I can push-start my current car because it has a manual transmission but I still relied upon a surrogate vehicle to jump-start my car the only time I had a flat battery in the four years since I got the car. Sep 15 08:12:00 KotCzarny: Do your preferred Orange something (Orange Pi?) ARM Linux SBCs have ATA connectivity, in this case probably SATA? The lack of SATA connectivity on the Raspberry Pi is limiting if you want to use an HDD or even some SSDs. Sep 15 08:12:42 you can use usb-sata (but use real one, ie jms378 and not some crap) Sep 15 08:13:30 and arm on those cheapo boards are limited by data bandwidth. but at least they dont share ONE usb2.0 for everything as in rpi Sep 15 08:13:44 so you can get 3x40MB/s without a problem Sep 15 08:14:26 but if you want real speed use rk3399/pro or if you are real about data throughput, choose marvell Sep 15 08:16:48 KotCzarny: Then the answer seems to be no. Some ARM Linux SBCs, such as the Nitrogen models from Boundary Devices, have an integrated SATA host controller, presumably natively connected instead of using a USB↔SATA converter/bridge. Sep 15 08:17:08 if you dont mind 2 cores instead of 4 you can use A20 based one Sep 15 08:17:14 they have native sata port Sep 15 08:18:46 find yourself sbc with minipcie slot, then add minipci-2/4sata Sep 15 08:19:06 it's the best solution than trying to find one having it native Sep 15 09:51:11 /1/23 Sep 15 10:15:19 /4? Sep 15 11:47:21 Interesting conference badge phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2vkHRM4dHg Sep 15 11:51:47 personal tracking/evasedropping device? :P Sep 15 13:23:14 <{-0-}> Hi all! USB socket repair... trawling through the big thread on the forum but it seems a lot of the pictures are missing. Am I correct in thinking that the 5 tiny pads at the back and the 4 medium pads round the outside are all soldered but the 2 big squares underneath are glued? Sep 15 13:23:53 <{-0-}> Thankfully the pads are all present Sep 15 13:24:24 <{-0-}> sorry, guess I should mention ... N900 Sep 15 13:37:47 iirc, originally only the 5 tiny ones are soldered Sep 15 13:38:01 but you probably should solder everything :-) Sep 15 13:45:39 <{-0-}> Thank you! It does look as was originally attached with just hope and crossed fingers :D Upside being there's no damage to the board Sep 15 14:55:03 ~usbfix Sep 15 14:55:03 it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt, or to avoid breakage, see ~usb-unplug Sep 15 16:49:06 <{-0-}> sixwheeledbeast: thank you! Sep 15 16:49:13 np Sep 15 16:49:16 <{-0-}> ~usb-unplug Sep 15 16:49:17 i guess usb-unplug is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20140721_002.mp4 Sep 15 16:53:39 I believe that is the "correct" way to unplug your usb to avoid damage Sep 15 16:58:35 <{-0-}> I got it at a carboot with broken USB, no obvious damage to the casing so I don't know if it's a wear and tear breakage or an oops breakage Sep 15 16:59:14 <{-0-}> And the screen was in better condition than my existing N900, so that's been swapped Sep 15 17:11:50 usb usually dies because of user Sep 15 17:12:04 and overall engineering brain fart Sep 15 17:12:32 if it's treated right during whole life, it survives (in mine it's ok since 2009) Sep 15 17:12:56 if user doesnt care and 'just pushes and wiggles', bam Sep 15 17:18:45 I can second that, my one I have had the longest (2009) has never missed a beat. Other I have picked up since have occasional intermittent issue. Sep 15 17:23:06 one tricky thing is using other peoples chargers/cables Sep 15 17:23:18 they are often stiff enough to abuse the port Sep 15 17:31:01 I try and use my Nokia wallcharger with locking pins smoothed off a bit where ever possible. Sep 15 17:31:29 mine are greatly tore off of the use Sep 15 17:31:49 might be wrong word Sep 15 17:31:55 worn is better Sep 15 17:32:30 so in unlikely case charger dies (but its nokia, so unlikely), i can reuse the cable Sep 15 17:34:32 The only charger that i use that is not Nokia is a unbranded cigarette socket one. I use that very rarely if I have hit red battery Sep 15 17:53:50 <{-0-}> one USB cable filed down and marked as the safe lead! Sep 15 17:53:58 o.O Sep 15 17:57:49 <{-0-}> amazing to watch that guy soldering when it's all zoomed in! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 16 02:59:59 2018