**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 22 03:00:00 2018 Sep 22 08:32:22 Hi all Sep 22 08:32:52 Alway same problem on TMO : Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Sep 22 08:32:53 Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel. Sep 22 08:33:19 Is there someone alive behind "techstaff@maemo.org" ? Sep 22 08:37:49 Creteil: did you email them? Sep 22 08:40:31 sicelo yes 2 days ago... Sep 22 08:44:26 ~unbanip Sep 22 08:44:26 somebody said unbanip was please contact techstaff maemo org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam Sep 22 08:44:45 did you also try whitelisting your IP via that website? Sep 22 08:45:40 sicelo no I have just sent mail to techstaff maemo org Sep 22 08:46:24 sicelo my IP is not in the database of "https://www.stopforumspam.com" Sep 22 08:46:36 ~techstaff Sep 22 08:46:37 i heard techstaff is techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/ Sep 22 08:47:35 oh, if you're not in the database, then are you perhaps using tor? Sep 22 08:47:40 also, what does this part mean exactly : "or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam" Sep 22 08:47:59 sicelo : no, I don't use tor Sep 22 09:17:30 sicelo ok, I try sending mail to "council@maemo.org"... Sep 22 09:21:32 sicelo Done !!! Sep 22 09:50:29 * enyc meows Sep 22 17:55:08 cretags added for ~listvalues spam Sep 22 17:55:19 cret.. meh Sep 22 18:16:12 I've been playing with vim and Im puzzled of at least one command. It says to press Ctrl-]. It seems impossible to type in n900 keyboard, but also on my laptop. In n900 it is "function-sym" and choose and in laptop it is altgr-9. How is this supposed to work? Sep 22 18:16:45 on normal kb ] is second key to the right from 'p' Sep 22 18:16:51 so, easy to reach Sep 22 18:17:27 not in finnish layout Sep 22 18:17:37 not many people use finnish layout Sep 22 18:18:04 just few million Sep 22 18:18:21 unlikely Sep 22 18:18:28 most of them just use mouse Sep 22 18:19:24 but have I understood correctly that I can't make that command in my keyboard layout? Sep 22 18:19:43 never used vim, so cant comment Sep 22 18:19:49 otherwise vim tutorial convinced me of its power Sep 22 18:57:28 Vajb: Which key is ] on fininish layout Sep 22 19:05:35 sixwheeledbeast: On a Danish layout it is only available on the on-screen extension keyboard (blue-arrow + Sym). Sep 22 19:06:31 (assuming we're talking N900 and not a PC) Sep 22 19:07:07 So a few options, hack xterm to have these keys on the bottom row see ~beasttweaks or edit .vimrc ? Sep 22 19:50:16 sixwheeledbeast: it is same on finnish layout, but on n900 I can sometimes make it work. On laptop, never Sep 22 19:53:20 Vajb: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4392705/programmers-vim-setup-for-finnish-swedish-or-other-non-us-keyboard-layout#4392830 Sep 22 19:56:22 Having brackets up there would annoy me. Sep 22 19:57:11 I suppose you get used to what you learn. Sep 22 20:39:25 i guess so. I'll just have to learn us coding Sep 22 20:39:55 layout? Sep 22 20:40:31 ah right, that's what I meant Sep 22 21:33:51 ctrl+] is usually mapped to esc in terminal Sep 22 21:34:41 it's propably the same on n900. today I mapped blue+backspace to give me esc, maybe do the same? Sep 22 21:35:59 some more common ones are (C- means ctrl+) C-m return/enter and C-i tab Sep 22 21:37:52 C-s sends STOP signal to process, C-q resumes it and that just which I remember now Sep 22 21:59:01 here is more complete list https://ss64.com/bash/syntax-keyboard.html **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 23 02:59:59 2018