**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 04 02:59:59 2018 Nov 04 03:29:35 x-chat doesn't know to require Internet properly through GUI before attempting to access it. Nov 04 04:39:38 And taking into account that SMS work fine, afaik... The problem may be relevant only for telepathy-idle. Which necessiates a re-reading of its source code, some time in the distant future... Nov 04 05:56:15 >> that's why internet is so fucked up nowadays - no fallback to no-js browsing<< my words of years ago Nov 04 05:57:20 * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders what Anasko is ranting about Nov 04 05:57:55 Speaking of which: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18349887 Nov 04 05:58:08 * DocScrutinizer05 can't reproduce (or doesn't understand) more than half of the reported "problems" Nov 04 05:59:02 * DocScrutinizer05 smells a case of "problem caused by inapproprate approach to system standard procedures" Nov 04 06:01:26 how are xchat, SMS and telepathy-idle related? Nov 04 06:44:39 do you own intel servers? disable ht Nov 04 06:44:41 https://github.com/bbbrumley/portsmash Nov 04 06:44:42 :> Nov 04 06:50:05 CVE-2018-5407 Nov 04 09:06:14 How do I get X-chat to remember "log to disk" and "hide join/part" settings? Nov 04 19:27:44 What does "minimise to tray" do with x-chat? Nov 04 19:40:48 Anasko: I think there's an x-chat channel, where you're more likely to get useful help. Nov 04 19:41:10 sparre, but xchat for maemo is ported Nov 04 19:41:16 which means some things are maemo specific Nov 04 19:41:27 Ahh... Nov 04 19:41:33 I wasn't aware of that. Nov 04 19:42:01 I'm running IRSSI in Screen on a server, so I don't have to worry too much about disconnects. Nov 04 19:42:15 most of gtk/qt apps require changes to the way they look/work on touchscreen at 800x480 Nov 04 19:42:38 I can imagine that. Nov 04 19:43:07 otherwise you could get 12px buttons that are hard to read and interact with Nov 04 19:43:25 and of those 12px half is margins and floof Nov 04 20:09:01 For example, I don't think Maemo 5 has tray in the same way x-chat expects it to exist - because x-chat sent to tray disappears entirely from radar, despite continuing to run. In short, it is not "minimise to hildon-status-bar" that I would have expected it to be. Nov 04 20:40:08 I used to miss that feature with irssi, but then I got over it. Nov 04 20:45:12 with irssi, closest would be to install tmux/screen :p Nov 04 20:48:53 but it would still require one open terminal, right? Nov 04 20:50:42 no Nov 04 20:51:27 you'd bring up a terminal when you want to, but tmux/screen would keep your issi running even with no xterm Nov 04 20:52:35 oh. Im using screen but somehow I thought it would require open terminal in n900 Nov 04 20:53:52 try it :) Nov 04 20:53:58 but it is easier to keep one terminal open all the time :p Nov 04 20:54:27 thx for the hint :) Nov 04 22:16:19 anasko aka wikiwide aka oksana should know to stay in channel to get answers Nov 04 22:16:51 xchat saves settings on quit. Aborting it e.g. by device shutdown won't do Nov 04 22:17:13 systray related stuff might be broken Nov 04 22:17:27 I never used it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 05 03:00:00 2018