**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 02 03:00:01 2018
Dec 02 08:07:40 <sicelo> who was #1
Dec 02 09:47:40 <sixwheeledbeast> ddg?
Dec 02 09:48:44 <buZz> searx? :)
Dec 02 10:31:32 <fishbulb> why the fuck would you do this.
Dec 02 10:32:17 <buZz> THIS!
Dec 02 10:32:22 * buZz shakes fist
Dec 02 10:34:16 <fishbulb> someone gave them the stuff to fuck with my phone. nobosy has these phones so the information could have only come from here
Dec 02 10:34:17 <fishbulb> someone got so hurt they might die because of this
Dec 02 10:35:02 <fishbulb> and you did it because of false information.
Dec 02 10:36:25 <fishbulb> you fucking stupid bastard. it is beyond careless and way beyond whatever the fuck you thought justified you doing this.
Dec 02 10:36:37 <buZz> ?
Dec 02 10:38:29 <fishbulb> i hope when you find out what the fuck happened you can never sleep again.
Dec 02 10:38:29 <fishbulb> it was sicelo or kotczarny 
Dec 02 10:38:39 <fishbulb> you irresponsible fucking bastard
Dec 02 10:41:04 <fishbulb> you don't know what you've done
Dec 02 10:41:04 <fishbulb> you used false information to justify what you did.
Dec 02 10:52:28 <buZz> KotCzarny: seems you doxed and hacked fishbulb and infected him with a virus that broke a flexcable inside his n900? :D
Dec 02 10:52:31 <buZz> lol
Dec 02 11:24:28 <sicelo> all fishbulb bases are belong to us
Dec 02 11:34:26 <buZz> also he claimed #maemo is the -only- source of n900 knowledge in the -world-
Dec 02 11:34:30 <buZz> which is quite charming
Dec 02 16:19:18 <KotCzarny> buzz: what can i say..
Dec 02 16:19:19 <KotCzarny> ;)
Dec 02 16:19:33 <buZz> :)
Dec 02 16:19:43 <buZz> i'm just amazed by your mad sk1llz
Dec 02 16:19:44 <KotCzarny> schizophrenic paranoia is treatable to some extent
Dec 02 16:20:02 <KotCzarny> but it's just a time bomb
Dec 02 16:20:11 <buZz> yeah he'll be back
Dec 02 16:20:51 <KotCzarny> sad part is he fussed about n900 years ago, yet he didnt switch to android apparently
Dec 02 17:38:22 <xes> talk.maemo.org: bye bye bots and spiders :) 
Dec 02 17:38:47 <KotCzarny> i should be afraid to ask.. but.. what? :>
Dec 02 17:41:24 <xes> KotCzarny: due to the number of bot requests we are receiving i have just applied a bad bot filter. Feedback is welcome
Dec 02 17:41:33 <KotCzarny> hmm
Dec 02 17:41:52 <KotCzarny> so even more strict filter?
Dec 02 17:42:27 <xes> no, only a large set of UA rules
Dec 02 17:42:36 <KotCzarny> uhum, figured as much
Dec 02 17:44:31 <KotCzarny> xes, how feasible would be creating some sort of readonly, static html archive of posts
Dec 02 17:44:43 <KotCzarny> how big is the tmo data set?
Dec 02 17:45:47 <KotCzarny> i might have some spare disk space and bandwidth for that
Dec 02 18:08:11 <xes> KotCzarny: hard question, easy solution? i suppose an N900 is enough to host the db :)
Dec 02 18:16:23 <buZz> was the worst bot 'megaindex.ru' by any chance?
Dec 02 18:19:46 <xes> buZz: no, it is blocked but we got no req. by it
Dec 02 18:26:02 <DocScrutinizer05> wtf is wrong with fishbulb? Do I miss some 40% of that dialog (due to /ignore) so it looks like a completely insane monologue to me?
Dec 02 18:28:38 <DocScrutinizer05> obviously not http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_maemo/latest.log.html
Dec 02 18:29:02 <DocScrutinizer05> (opm
Dec 02 18:36:51 <DocScrutinizer05> KotCzarny: xes: there really is no need for any mirror, you just need to distinguish read-only HTTP requests from HTTP requests that try to *write* any data (from "search" to "login" to "register") and only block the latter by applying RBL and whatnot
Dec 02 18:37:21 <DocScrutinizer05> mirror / archive / whatever
Dec 02 18:38:34 <Maxdamantus> Presumably the only thing you'd need to block to avoid spam is "register".
Dec 02 18:40:50 <DocScrutinizer05> for Neo900 for example the current mechanism is already a knockout criterion since the users (incl me and our own communications officer!) that act most privacy/security aware can't even *read* the Neo900 posts anymore
Dec 02 18:43:12 <DocScrutinizer05> it's not a sustainable approach to do daily snapshots on archive.org to allow users to *read* tmo
Dec 02 18:45:13 <DocScrutinizer05> tools like fail2ban etc offer a plethora of better approaches to deal with bots etc than what maemo.org is doing right now
Dec 02 18:47:08 <KotCzarny> afair, they block spam at firewall level, not daemon level
Dec 02 18:47:13 <KotCzarny> which complicates things
Dec 02 18:47:48 <DocScrutinizer05> we urgently need to update the forum software. And I think this is what the eV was made for, to allow using the still existing funds to purchase a 200(?) bucks license
Dec 02 18:48:02 <DocScrutinizer05> KotCzarny: yep
Dec 02 18:51:14 <DocScrutinizer05> who's council? accoprding to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council eeklund, juiceme, mosen since a year?? Whatever, council should get active to get the "vBulletin® Version 3.8.8" tmo sw updated
Dec 02 18:52:57 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.vbulletin.com/en/purchases/  209 bucks
Dec 02 19:52:12 <KotCzarny> maxd: registeration doesnt block spam, just throttles it down a bit
Dec 02 21:04:43 <DocScrutinizer05> well, I think we got a number of real new user registrations that easily allows welcoming each one manually by administrator
Dec 02 21:06:54 <DocScrutinizer05> so instead of a friggin captcha or whatever, simply tell users who want to register: "please come to IRC #maemo and fetch the parole of the day to get registered"
Dec 02 22:58:05 <Oksana> password of the day?
Dec 02 23:05:05 <DocScrutinizer05> actually rather a "ok, seems you're no bot. I gonna reply with >accept< to the system's automated email notification of your registration application"
Dec 02 23:25:05 <brolin_empey> Is the Raspberry Pi unique in the ARM SBC world by having multiple non-Linux and even non-*nix OSes available for it?
Dec 02 23:27:21 <brolin_empey> The OpenMoko GTA02 also had at least two non-Linux OSes available for it.
Dec 02 23:28:39 <brolin_empey> “non-Linux” means the OS does not use a Linux kernel so Android does not count as “non-Linux”.
Dec 02 23:56:53 <TheKit> brolin_empey, there is *BSD support for PineBook/Pine64
Dec 03 00:58:54 <brolin_empey> TheKit: OK but is there a non-*nix OS for the PineBook/Pine64?  The Raspberry Pi has Windows NT (Windows 10) and maybe at least one other non-*nix OS.  Is RISC OS considered *nix?
Dec 03 01:06:40 <brolin_empey> There are ARM computers that can run both Linux and Windows CE;  I guess some of these computers are SBCs.  If I recall correctly, one of the Geeksphone smartphones using ARM instead of x86 can run both Linux and Windows, I guess Windows CE/Windows Mobile, not Windows NT.
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