**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 28 02:59:57 2019 Jan 28 03:07:34 I have at least two 80286 computers, one stationary and one portable, that still work but that does not mean I still use them because they never die. Jan 28 03:14:54 DocScrutinizer05: Windows 10 for x86-32 can still run Windows 1 applications from 1985 and current versions of Windows NT (Windows 10 or Windows Server 2019) for x86-64 can still run Win32 applications from as early as 1993. Win32 was introduced by Windows NT 3.1 in 1993, which was the first release of Windows NT, not by Windows 4.0 (marketing name: Windows 95). Windows 3.1x also already had a registry even though the Windows registry is usually associated Jan 28 03:14:54 with Windows 4.0 and later. Jan 28 03:26:23 GNU+Linux for x86-64 had many usability problems in the early years, before it became mainstream. Jan 28 05:36:42 Enrico_Menotti: maybe nothing was fixed Jan 28 05:36:55 :) Jan 28 07:23:02 sicelo Something has changed, I'm sure now hang up works, before not. Always: every single call. Jan 28 14:40:51 Offtopic. I need hosting solution for one school project. Are there any that you would recommend? Jan 28 14:44:57 school server? Jan 28 14:45:35 you can also find some machine on scrap and connect it somewhere Jan 28 14:47:56 but it really is like 'i need a computer, are there any that you would recommend?' Jan 28 14:48:13 ie. question needs more details Jan 28 14:50:44 Im behind nat in all devices and prefer to stay that way. So I guess that rules out "plugging some scrap to somewhere". School provides server to play with, but it is private and need registration. I was thinking of some free solution to upload my project to be able to share it. Jan 28 14:58:14 you need to know what you need Jan 28 14:58:24 html? java? php? running own apps? Jan 28 18:41:31 KotCzarny: forgot the main information. It is just webpage. Think I'll be using gitlab since I have account there already. Jan 28 19:07:08 * Enrico_Menotti is testing his connection Jan 28 19:08:45 * Enrico_Menotti is doing it again Jan 28 19:09:05 Now it works. Jan 28 19:50:19 i was saying, Enrico_Menotti, maybe nothing is fixed, although yes, something has changed ;) Jan 28 19:52:28 Something that fixes call hang up... Jan 28 20:00:55 :) Jan 28 20:04:21 8) Jan 28 23:27:05 Enrico_M_RX-51: iirc there was a never solved glitch in BT depending on sequence of pairing stuff. Unpairing and re-pairing all devices helped Jan 28 23:33:17 DocScrutinizer05 So you think that the reason why now bt works is just a better pairing, and not related to the packages I installed? Jan 28 23:35:29 I had already tried repairing, with no avail. After installing the packages, things worked at first try. Jan 28 23:35:48 re-pairing... Jan 28 23:37:32 Other topic: I tried a couple of youtube clients, but they don't work. Is there anything working nowadays? Jan 28 23:41:55 Also, a strange thing: today I installed two applications, Opera and cutetube, but I don't get the icons in the app launcher. Jan 28 23:53:08 Removed cutetube, no icon for opera. Installed wolan, icon for this AND opera (!). Jan 29 00:02:47 well, the new packages are for sure a more plausible reason for things working now Jan 29 00:05:28 re icons in applauncher: there's a icon update job that should get started by the apt postinstall script. I can't recall the script name right now off top of my head Jan 29 00:07:35 So for some reason the script did not work for opera and cutetube. Jan 29 00:08:38 prolly jobname was update-desktop-database or another of the update Jan 29 00:09:04 yes, that's a known issue that smetimes this script fails Jan 29 00:09:48 btw I think you need at least cutetube2 Jan 29 00:10:44 Trying with mediabox, but seems no better. Jan 29 00:13:52 sorry http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/update-desktop-database.1.html wrong job Jan 29 00:20:16 I guess you already restarted desktip / device? Jan 29 00:20:46 No, since now I have all icons. Jan 29 00:25:10 Enrico_M_RX-51: /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache Jan 29 00:26:26 found thabnks to my great tool whichgrep Jan 29 00:26:55 alias whichgrep='find `echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g"` -iname ' Jan 29 00:27:06 IroN900:~# whichgrep '*icon*' Jan 29 00:27:50 ;-) Jan 29 00:28:14 Thanks, for now won't look further. Just in case. Jan 29 00:38:00 * DocScrutinizer05 finally needs to make a script that deploys all the aliases and bash startup scripts to $user@$targetmachine Jan 29 00:50:30 Installed cutetube2, founds videos but cant play them. Again no icon; ran that script as root. No result. Jan 29 00:50:45 finds... Jan 29 00:50:52 restart gildon-desktop Jan 29 00:51:01 hildon even Jan 29 00:51:23 actually simply kill it Jan 29 00:51:42 kill pid? Jan 29 00:53:25 Ok, worked. Jan 29 00:53:46 But cutetube2 not. Jan 29 00:54:33 That's it for today. Bedtime. Bye! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 29 02:59:56 2019