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Jan 29 07:37:41 <brolin_empey> Vajb: If you only need to host a static Web site or even a dynamic one if it can work with the software in Ubuntu 8.10, I can provide you hosting on my virtual dedicated server in Toronto.
Jan 29 11:11:49 <Wikiwide> Abiword is Gtk+, but not exactly Hildon - menu is atrocious, just like navit-gtk. And, when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file, just Untitled.
Jan 29 11:12:44 <Wikiwide> MaemoPad is far more Hildonised, but... Instead of "Send with Email", "Send with Bluetooth" in menu, there should be single Share button, like everywhere. 
Jan 29 11:13:35 <Wikiwide> And, MaemoPad, "Close" button should not be on menu! See top right corner.
Jan 29 11:16:18 <Wikiwide> Granted, MaemoPad can only open plain text files?
Jan 29 11:18:37 <Wikiwide> I wish I knew which Linux program treats RTF as native format, not as nuisance. 
Jan 29 11:18:57 <KotCzarny> libreoffice?
Jan 29 11:18:59 <Wikiwide> So far, Libreoffice is best but far from perfect? 
Jan 29 11:19:14 <KotCzarny> it's nice because it's multiplatform
Jan 29 11:19:25 <KotCzarny> but not really suited for 800x480
Jan 29 11:19:29 <Wikiwide> Formatting is the trouble. Text is easy.
Jan 29 11:19:43 <KotCzarny> you can always convert text format
Jan 29 11:19:51 <KotCzarny> with cmdline tools
Jan 29 11:20:01 <Wikiwide> I don't care much for multi-platform programs. Libreoffice tends to depend on Java and be slow?
Jan 29 11:20:19 <KotCzarny> it depends on java for some functions only
Jan 29 11:20:24 <KotCzarny> i think
Jan 29 11:21:39 <Wikiwide> Either way, I don't think libreoffice is in Maemo repositories?
Jan 29 11:21:59 <KotCzarny> i bet it requires recent libs
Jan 29 11:22:07 <KotCzarny> not to mention heaps of memory
Jan 29 11:23:04 <Wikiwide> Heaps of memory, yesss... I would understand it for a docx, but I just wish for a text editor for a humble rtf.
Jan 29 11:23:21 <KotCzarny> abiword then
Jan 29 11:23:44 <KotCzarny> or rtf->html and some html editor
Jan 29 11:24:01 <KotCzarny> but that becomes a heap of trash sooner or later
Jan 29 11:24:18 <Wikiwide> Unless there is a more universally readable format for text document with formatting? And, HTML is bad at being a document - it doesn't understand pages.
Jan 29 11:24:30 <KotCzarny> pdf?
Jan 29 11:24:31 <KotCzarny> :P
Jan 29 11:25:15 <Wikiwide> LaTeX to PDF sounds excellent. 
Jan 29 11:25:35 <KotCzarny> and yes, latex is universal academic formatting format
Jan 29 11:26:23 <Wikiwide> I wish... Docx is universal academic format, half of the time, in my humble experience. 
Jan 29 11:26:29 <Wikiwide> Except, the only GUI for that is LyX, Qt-based.
Jan 29 11:31:48 <Wikiwide> https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30876
Jan 29 11:32:14 <Wikiwide> Anybody game to feed a LyX deb to auto-builder?
Jan 29 11:45:10 <brolin_empey> LibreOffice needs a JRE only for Base as far as I know.
Jan 29 11:46:02 <brolin_empey> CSS can control page breaks in an HTML document.
Jan 29 11:46:30 <KotCzarny> html sucks for books
Jan 29 11:46:56 <KotCzarny> although if one doesnt care much for layout it's fine
Jan 29 11:52:03 <brolin_empey> Maybe the Xanadu project of Ted Nelson is a paged medium?  The World Wide Web is a continuous (non-paged) medium but CSS allows some control over paging.
Jan 29 11:54:04 <brolin_empey> Gopher still exists too but I do not know if it offers a benefit for the use case of Oksana.
Jan 29 11:57:41 <brolin_empey> You can still use PostScript but even the “Adobe Reader” can read only PDF, not PostScript.
Jan 29 11:58:02 <KotCzarny> pdf is subset of postscript
Jan 29 11:58:30 <KotCzarny> or it was long time ago
Jan 29 16:51:11 <DocScrutinizer05> >>when I ask File Manager to open .rtf with Abiword, Abiword fires up... Without the file<< check the desktop file, if the app gets file parameter in there
Jan 29 16:55:18 <DocScrutinizer05> >>a more universally readable format for text document with formatting<< LaTex, but you mentioned that a few lines down already
Jan 29 17:00:46 <DocScrutinizer05> you should invent non-paged books instead ;-P Like Tora rolls, only modern and miniaturized and motorized
Jan 29 20:56:56 <sunshavi> Wikiwide: epub is a nice format is is html based there is a pkg "dorian" for reading epubs on n900
Jan 29 20:57:21 <sunshavi> pandoc o calibre are the tools 4 converting among different formats
Jan 29 21:35:51 * Maxdamantus imagines the best way to use epub would be to just run an HTTP server for it.
Jan 29 21:36:36 * Maxdamantus uses ZIM on N900 similarly: just running kiwix-serve and loading pages through Opera.
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