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Feb 24 07:40:28 <brolin_empey> http://phonedb.net/img/gallery/big/lg_g5_in_hand.jpg
Feb 24 07:40:28 <brolin_empey> My two favourite subjects?
Feb 24 20:20:52 <Anasko> You know, it's quite annoying when "date" says 07:49, but status menu clock says 07:19. Why could that be?..
Feb 24 20:21:05 <KotCzarny> timezone
Feb 24 20:22:12 <Anasko> Settings, Date and time says: updated automatically, Adelaide, 07:19. Whereas it is, in real world, 07:19 Sydney time.
Feb 24 20:23:25 <Anasko> But if I untick "update automatically", I get Sydney 07:19.
Feb 24 20:29:36 <Anasko> And you know, even if I provide manually Adelaide 07:19 (which isn't realistic), I still get 07:49 from 'date'.
Feb 24 20:33:50 <Anasko> And this annoying, jumpy calendar still has appointments off by half an hour, whatever I do. So, how do I tell date directly to go, wake up and see that status menu is displaying something more correct than date?
Feb 24 20:36:40 <Anasko> I suspect that date is way too fundamental to care about gconf settings specifying a timezone. So how do I know which timezone the date uses?.. It says LHST.
Feb 24 20:37:54 <Anasko> Aka, Lord Howe Island. It would all be fine and jolly if only cellular provider's automatic time didn't go and change from LWST to Adelaide. 
Feb 24 20:38:02 <KotCzarny> possibly the busybox's one
Feb 24 20:40:58 <Anasko> Busybox's timezone?.. How is that one changed?
Feb 24 20:46:35 <Anasko> I even set Date and time timezone to Lord Howe Island, but date is still half an hour ahead of it (with LWST).
Feb 24 20:46:50 <Anasko> Something is disconnected somewhere.
Feb 24 20:50:12 <Anasko> Time is connected, alright. Timezone is disconnected.
Feb 24 21:11:00 * sicelo fails to understand ..
Feb 24 21:11:25 <sicelo> 22:22 < Anasko> Settings, Date and time says: updated automatically, Adelaide, 07:19. Whereas it is, in real world, 07:19 Sydney time. << you're saying `date` is the one that's wrong?
Feb 24 22:11:00 <sixwheeledbeast> uh?
Feb 24 22:11:36 <sixwheeledbeast> tzdata changed there?
Feb 25 00:26:53 <Wikiwide> sicelo: Yes, date is wrong, somehow. As in, changing Time from "Settings->Date and time" does change date, but date stubbornly thinks that date's LWST timezone has to be half an hour ahead of "Settings->Date and time" timezone, regardless of which timezone is chosen in "Settings->Date and time"
Feb 25 00:27:26 <Wikiwide> date's LHST * timezone, not LWST - misprint
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