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Sep 20 15:16:08 <halftux> does somebody has a clue about devuan and if it is using unchanged kernel-image from debian?
Sep 20 15:17:40 <KotCzarny> do devuan packages differ in version string somehow?
Sep 20 15:18:29 <KotCzarny> yeah, they have devuan in the version string
Sep 20 15:20:36 <halftux> the last kernel from ascii which I have is 4.9.0-11 and version 4.9.189-3
Sep 20 15:20:52 <KotCzarny> what is exact package string?
Sep 20 15:21:55 <halftux> with dpkg -s the result is version: 4.9.189-3
Sep 20 15:22:28 <halftux> the kernel before had 4.9.88-1+deb9u1
Sep 20 15:23:49 <halftux> so it has same version string like debian stretch
Sep 20 15:24:01 <KotCzarny> ascii is based on stretch
Sep 21 02:08:40 <brolin_empey> In my budget spreadsheet, how can I generalise “oil change” as the name of a category of expenses for private transportation so that it applies to a purely electric or ICE-electric hybrid vehicle in addition to a normal vehicle propelled only by an ICE and maybe even generalise it so that it is not specific to ground/land/road vehicles?
Sep 21 02:11:56 <brolin_empey> “motor maintenance” or “powertrain maintenance”?
Sep 21 02:14:01 <brolin_empey> Also, does an electric motor used to propel a vehicle have an equivalent of a spark plug or glow plug for an ICE used to propel a vehicle?
Sep 21 02:14:53 <brolin_empey> Maybe “analog of” is better in this case?
Sep 21 02:18:44 <brolin_empey> Maybe I could find something that covers both the ICE Golf (retronym for normal Volkswagen Golf) and EGolf (purely electric, battery-powered version of the Golf) to see what terminology it uses.
Sep 21 02:33:01 <brolin_empey> “consumable parts for motor” instead of “spark plug or glow plug”?  Then it would include points in old spark-ignition vehicles with a points distributor instead of electronic fuel ignition, though.
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