**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 14 03:00:09 2020 Jan 14 03:29:42 did You guys hear about about "new" very secure for damage li-ion batteries ? them even fire resistant ones... water blend stab and looks like flexible plastic, and them if good remember more non toxic ones in compare to old ones... Jan 14 08:29:03 hi guys Jan 14 08:29:04 how you doing? Jan 14 08:29:38 autumn sickness Jan 14 08:29:55 that's strange because it's winter already Jan 14 08:32:06 by the way, some might be interested in https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-eleventh-update-january-2020.html Jan 14 08:32:44 i was thinking of installing that in one of my n900, with the idea of having an uptodate kernel in which to install "modern" ham radio software Jan 14 08:33:04 i say "modern" because ham radio software for linux is everything but modern Jan 14 08:33:10 you have nothing to lose :) Jan 14 08:33:14 xastir has the most outdated interface I've ever seen Jan 14 08:35:16 also, I think the sdcard in which I have easydebian installed is failing Jan 14 08:35:26 when I try to do somethings with it, the phone suddenly reboots (kernel panic?) Jan 14 08:35:36 IIRC I also have there two swap partitions Jan 14 08:36:21 does audio input & output work on leste, via headset? Jan 14 08:37:32 i believe so, yes. but you'll have to do it via alsamixer, etc. Jan 14 08:38:16 i'll give it a try then Jan 14 08:38:56 by the way, maybe you guys know how to solve an issue I'm having with a Zynq based board Jan 14 08:39:19 Linux fails detecting an SPI memory flash that is correctly detected by u-boot. u-boot says: SF: Detected n25q128a13 with page size 256 Bytes, erase size 4 KiB, total 16 MiB; while Linux reports: m25p80 spi0.0: unrecognized JEDEC id bytes: 00 00 00 00 00 00 Jan 14 08:39:22 Does u-boot do something extremely clever that Linux does not? Jan 14 08:41:18 the only gue that has answered me about this on #linux is someone who doesn't know what u-boot is Jan 14 08:41:29 so I think i'm on my own :D Jan 14 08:41:38 s/gue/guy/ Jan 14 08:42:46 ceene: spi driver has a hardcoded data about known flash Jan 14 08:42:50 so just find/add Jan 14 08:43:11 but id being all 0 might mean something else is wrong Jan 14 08:43:17 yep, the problem is that this thing seems to be reading all 00 bytes, so it doesn't find it in the database Jan 14 08:43:29 this chip memory is already in the driver, it should work Jan 14 08:43:39 i have similar boards with the same chip that are getting recognized just fine Jan 14 08:43:44 wrong spi config then in linux? Jan 14 08:44:06 i don't know, the device tree is the same in both linux and u-boot Jan 14 14:37:52 Any reason the "Alarm tone" button is greyed? Jan 14 14:38:59 Also, I was wondering if there is a lock screen that shows sms/email/im content Jan 14 14:53:21 interesting. that's the first thing i disable on Android :p Jan 14 14:53:36 sicelo haha Jan 14 14:53:50 alarms? but they are useful :) Jan 14 14:54:52 the lock screen notifications Jan 14 14:54:58 i know, just kidding Jan 14 14:56:01 otoh, N900 is still my main device .. so even alarms, music, etc. - all happens on N900 Jan 14 14:56:36 if i could only run some of the android apps on it easily.. Jan 14 15:19:09 which ones do you use/need most KotCzarny? Jan 14 15:26:51 city bicycles, bank, steam guard Jan 14 15:35:37 netflix is nice too Jan 14 17:38:27 What's the difference between modrana and modrana-qml? Aside from the name :) Jan 14 17:41:16 libraries compiled against? Jan 14 17:46:41 iirc it's the UI in use. without QML, it uses GTK Jan 14 17:53:41 Makes sense Jan 14 17:58:22 I'm still in the dark about not being able to change the alarm tone Jan 14 17:59:07 I successfully installed thumb Jan 14 18:00:01 alarm tone? Jan 14 18:00:07 Yes Jan 14 18:00:20 The button is greyed out Jan 14 18:01:22 In maemo, not modrana Jan 14 18:02:34 i think you're trying to set the tone while setting an alarm? i guess someone wanted to implement different alarm ringtones :) Jan 14 18:02:43 Just do it in Clock > Alarm Settings Jan 14 18:03:17 s/different /per-/ Jan 14 18:03:43 Thanks, that's what I missed :P Jan 14 18:05:56 yw Jan 14 18:08:07 Is there mp-fremantle-community-pr for thumb? Jan 14 18:08:21 how did you install thumb? Jan 14 18:09:03 I tried according to the wiki Jan 14 18:09:11 With the .install file Jan 14 18:09:15 ok Jan 14 18:09:31 But in the end I had to apt-get upgrade Jan 14 18:10:48 what is your output for `apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr` Jan 14 18:10:58 Sec Jan 14 18:14:45 https://pastebin.com/s7bCEUpU Jan 14 18:15:57 haha, it says none installed Jan 14 18:16:32 i'd say re-do the steps. you obviously should have backups of important stuff in case things go south Jan 14 18:17:52 i bet on some dependency failed Jan 14 18:18:06 or you didnt wait for package manager to process installation properly Jan 14 18:18:34 It gave me an error regarding the thumb enabler Jan 14 18:19:13 So, start from scratch? Jan 14 18:19:23 so do it again then, and let us know what error it gives you Jan 14 18:19:29 Flash? Jan 14 18:19:35 try without at first Jan 14 18:22:05 package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found Jan 14 18:22:23 That's also what I got before Jan 14 18:23:42 https://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-72052.html Jan 14 18:23:46 might be related Jan 14 18:24:29 what are your repos? Jan 14 18:25:16 Apt-get found it, I'm trying that route Jan 14 18:25:49 at least :) Jan 14 18:27:34 https://pastebin.com/yKCeD8tM Jan 14 18:28:36 https://pastebin.com/aWHbNiiD Jan 14 18:28:38 you don't have the Thumb repos there Jan 14 18:28:50 how are you installing Thumb? Jan 14 18:29:23 here's the .install file for Thumb Jan 14 18:33:02 What about: deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free? Jan 14 18:35:15 sicelo where's the .install file? Jan 14 18:35:19 ah, i didn't see your 2nd paste Jan 14 18:35:29 you have this in two separate files? Jan 14 18:35:38 yes Jan 14 18:36:31 how did that happen? Jan 14 18:36:38 * sicelo checks on his N900 Jan 14 18:37:13 Hmm, the hildon list file was written by the .install file Jan 14 18:37:24 the source list updated by me Jan 14 18:37:54 you generally shouldn't do that. Jan 14 18:38:05 I see Jan 14 18:38:24 What do yours look like? Jan 14 18:38:25 which basically means, backup your repos, then use only basic ones + the one from installer Jan 14 18:38:40 ~maemo-repos Jan 14 18:38:40 rumour has it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jan 14 18:38:47 you can remove everything from the sources.list file, and just open the file i linked above ... it will update the repos accordingly Jan 14 18:39:47 sicelo can't see the link Jan 14 18:40:28 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/community-thumb-fremantle.install Jan 14 18:40:58 That's the one I used Jan 14 18:41:51 :) Jan 14 18:41:55 so just scrap the sources.list? Jan 14 18:43:12 (1) empty everything in sources.list, (2) open this file on N900 using the browser - it will then 'take' over, open Application Manager, etc. Jan 14 18:43:29 you don't have to manually add the repositories anywhere Jan 14 18:43:36 doesnt app manager have own repo list/ Jan 14 18:44:09 What about the hildon-application-manager.list file? Jan 14 18:44:20 thats what im talking about Jan 14 18:45:08 leave the hildon-application-manager.list file alone. use the .install file above Jan 14 18:45:36 http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Installation <<- Jan 14 18:45:42 Ok Jan 14 18:45:56 That's the wiki I used Jan 14 18:48:44 Gave me the same error, package 'community-ssu-enablr' not found Jan 14 18:48:53 enabler Jan 14 18:49:51 ok Jan 14 18:51:02 check if hildon-application-manager.list has deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free perhaps now Jan 14 18:53:24 btw, did it open the Application Manager when you clicked the .install file? Jan 14 18:53:45 deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free Jan 14 18:53:54 Whoops, mistake Jan 14 18:53:59 Hold on Jan 14 18:54:48 https://pastebin.com/dTRsEDwq Jan 14 18:55:01 Looks like I have double community-testing Jan 14 18:55:34 at least the thumb repo is there now Jan 14 18:56:28 And, yes. HAM opened when opening the .install file Jan 14 18:57:06 hope you didn't close HAM afterwards :) Jan 14 18:57:17 Of course not... Jan 14 18:57:33 any errors yet? Jan 14 18:58:12 package 'community-ssu-enabler' not found Jan 14 18:58:44 I already installed that package via apt, seems like I'm running testing now Jan 14 18:58:48 you can try installing it in apt Jan 14 18:58:51 ah Jan 14 18:59:16 i think ham does some additional mumbo-jumbo Jan 14 19:00:54 81 packages being updated via apt now Jan 14 19:03:47 Worst case I'll just reflash and try again... Jan 14 19:07:50 it should be fine. i've installed CSSU using apt with no ill-effect Jan 14 19:10:07 :) Jan 14 19:10:30 How do you install u-boot alongside cssu? Jan 14 19:12:05 like any other package Jan 14 19:12:39 Ok Jan 14 19:12:52 For some reason I remember them clashing Jan 14 19:14:15 the only thing you need to be careful about is - since you'll be using -thumb, immediately after installing uboot, be sure to set Kernel Power to be the default kernel. Jan 14 19:14:25 do this before rebooting the device Jan 14 19:16:29 reason - -thumb can't boot on the vanilla N900 kernel, which uboot defaults to Jan 14 19:17:54 https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1150740&postcount=1 has all the info you need Jan 14 19:18:21 Done! Jan 14 19:19:10 Now to test things out... Jan 14 19:24:56 u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules Jan 14 19:26:13 apt-get install kernel-modules: kernel-cssu-modules instead of kernel-modules Jan 14 19:28:44 that's ok. Jan 14 19:31:22 Doesn't seem like uboot installed Jan 14 19:32:02 if it installed, you should have seen it flashing a kernel - same as when you flash on pc Jan 14 19:32:24 That's it, I didn't see that Jan 14 19:32:24 iirc it should even popup a dialog warning you about kernel install Jan 14 19:32:44 I remember that too, it didn't do that Jan 14 19:34:19 you can just reinstall - u-boot-tools, uboot-flasher, kernel-cssu-bootimg Jan 14 19:39:20 Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules Jan 14 19:43:32 seems you're missing a repo Jan 14 19:46:01 https://pastebin.com/Tg7MjTaK Jan 14 19:46:19 probably extras-devel Jan 14 19:48:19 not devel Jan 14 19:48:41 you're missing the standard repos Jan 14 19:48:47 ~maemo-repos Jan 14 19:48:48 from memory, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories Jan 14 19:49:41 i use muarf mirrors Jan 14 19:53:36 Ok, I'll add them to the hildon list Jan 14 20:03:47 Added the two repos to sources.list Jan 14 20:04:00 Still got same error from at-get Jan 14 20:04:03 apt Jan 14 20:04:14 afair, every time you run ham it will nuke your sources.list Jan 14 20:04:16 :) Jan 14 20:04:33 I see Jan 14 20:04:37 you should add repos in HAM, not sources.list, and not even hildon-whatwhat.list Jan 14 20:07:44 there's a .install file for muarf - http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/muarf_all.install Jan 14 20:08:39 Oh thank god, I was afraid I'd have to type it all in Jan 14 20:12:05 Still getting same error Jan 14 20:13:15 Holy crap... Jan 14 20:13:38 show u your hildon.list Jan 14 20:14:55 https://pastebin.com/DLFZfPw9 Jan 14 20:15:54 I remember that one repo needs to be disabled when running thumb, right? Jan 14 20:16:51 same error? menaing "Broken package: u-boot-flasher: Depends: kernel-modules" ? Jan 14 20:16:59 Yep Jan 14 20:17:51 sounds like an unfinished catalog refresh. the package is definitely available Jan 14 20:18:11 http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/k/kernel/ Jan 14 20:18:32 didnt you tell him to install power-kernel? Jan 14 20:18:33 :) Jan 14 20:18:39 yup Jan 14 20:19:22 KotCzarny: power-kernel installs automatically for thumb. it's a requirement Jan 14 20:19:40 maybe modules wont suck kernel as a dep Jan 14 20:20:19 you're installing using apt or HAM? Jan 14 20:21:28 tried via apt, I can't see the packages in HAM Jan 14 20:22:23 apt-get update && apt-get install u-boot-tools uboot-flasher kernel-cssu-bootimg Jan 14 20:22:46 That's what I did, no go Jan 14 20:23:52 sounds impossible (to me) Jan 14 20:24:09 I''l try again Jan 14 20:24:20 * sicelo installs u-boot on thumb N900 Jan 14 20:25:05 Boohoo Jan 14 20:25:21 How do I tell if I'm running thunb? Jan 14 20:26:11 Control Panel > General > About Community CSSU Jan 14 20:26:21 Says testing Jan 14 20:26:45 yes, under version, should end with `+thumb0` Jan 14 20:27:03 Tmaemo12 Jan 14 20:27:21 then you're not on thumb yet Jan 14 20:27:57 anyway, u-boot issue is unrelated to thumb Jan 14 20:29:05 maybe just reflash and start from scratch if that's easier :) Jan 14 20:29:14 Maybe Jan 14 20:29:16 at least not you know what repos you need, etc. Jan 14 20:29:21 s/not/now/ Jan 14 20:29:22 sicelo meant: at least now you know what repos you need, etc. Jan 14 20:34:31 I'm gonna make one last desperate try and remove community-ssu-enabler and then reinstall Jan 14 20:36:00 sicelo thanks so much for the help :) Jan 14 20:36:50 yw Jan 14 21:24:27 * badcloud_ is reflashing this BEYOTSCH Jan 14 21:49:57 sicelo If you're still there, I just reflashed, loaded both .install files (muarf first), still got error Jan 14 21:50:25 package community-ssu-enabler not found Jan 14 21:50:41 does the error exist on normal cssu too? Jan 14 21:51:00 Not sure, I'd like to install thumb Jan 14 21:51:15 start with normal cssu, just to be sure its not something on your side Jan 14 21:51:30 You mean stable or testing? Jan 14 21:51:42 testing Jan 14 21:51:47 Ok Jan 14 21:52:50 http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing-fremantle.install ? Jan 14 21:53:34 Do I need to remove thumb repo first? Jan 14 21:53:46 but, have you not already tried to install thumb? might be best to reflash again .. Jan 14 21:54:05 No, I just reflashed Jan 14 21:54:46 All the install file did was change hildon.list and look for community-ssu-enabler Jan 14 21:55:35 maybe go in to HAM and disable the Thumb repo then, and use that install file you linked Jan 14 21:57:45 the testing install file works Jan 14 21:58:08 is it possible to go to thumb after installing testing? Jan 14 21:58:37 yes Jan 14 21:58:56 giddyup then :) Jan 14 22:00:42 Pretty sure it will give me the same error when I try to install thumb Jan 14 22:01:31 It worked for you guys? Jan 14 22:01:57 it was long time ago Jan 14 22:02:07 same here ... long time :) Jan 14 22:02:30 :) Jan 14 22:02:30 and i won't reflash - bandwidth issues Jan 14 22:03:10 I see Jan 14 22:04:00 Are the updates dating up until 2017 only for thumb? Jan 14 22:05:04 testing might be newer than thumb Jan 14 22:05:47 yes, it is Jan 14 22:06:20 anyway, Maemo Fremantle has been frozen for a long time now. No one is (actively) working on CSSU anymore. Jan 14 22:06:59 Yeah, I know. I can't wait til Leste has UI call support. You guys are doing god's work Jan 14 22:09:49 So what would be the route for switching to thumb, deleting testing's repos and then loading the install file? Jan 14 22:10:11 no need to delete testing. just go with the install file. Jan 14 22:10:22 thumb IS a version of testing :) Jan 14 22:12:34 anyway, here's my .list for comparison - http://paste.debian.net/1126025/ Jan 14 22:12:43 Nice Jan 14 22:13:24 you don't need the -devel and -sdk ones of course Jan 14 22:22:38 Hmmm, screen went blank... Jan 14 22:23:04 ssh session froze Jan 14 22:50:03 Testing installation conked **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 15 02:59:57 2020