**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 26 02:59:57 2020 Apr 26 05:35:01 Is anyone here using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? If yes then does the version of minicom packaged by Ubuntu 20.04 LTS have twelve keyboard macros or still only ten? Apr 26 06:12:11 brolin_empey: how can i check how many keybaord macros there are? Apr 26 06:17:29 I guess Ubuntu still has what Debian has, which is minicom 2.7 or 2.7.1 instead of 2.7.90 from 2015 or another version that includes the changes to fix pmac10 and add pmac11 and pmac12. Sigh. Apparently the minicom package in Debian now has another maintainer in addition to the maintainer it had in 2015 who has apparently still never replied to my email from 2015. I should try to ask the new maintainer of the minicom package in Debian to use 2.7.90 or Apr 26 06:17:29 another version that has the same changes about the keyboard macros. Apr 26 06:21:13 did you email the maintainer, or file a bug report? Apr 26 06:23:19 ginggs: In minicom, press Ctrl+A, O, enter “Screen and keyboard”, press M for Edit Macros, then it should be obvious if you have an old version with only ten keyboard macros or a new version with twelve keyboard macros. Apr 26 06:37:15 ginggs: In the summer of 2015 in the northern hemisphere, I emailed both the maintainer of the minicom package in Debian and the minicom-devel mailing list. The maintainer of minicom made my requested changes to fix pmac10 and add pmac11 and pmac12 in minicom version 2.7.90 but apparently Debian still has the old 2.7 and 2.7.1 versions of minicom that predate these changes from 2015. I have still never heard anything from the maintainer of the minicom Apr 26 06:37:15 package in Debian but now this package apparently has a second maintainer that it did not have in 2015. Apr 26 06:40:37 confirming only 10 macros in minicom 2.7.1-1.1 in ubuntu 20.04 Apr 26 06:41:03 brolin_empey: i suggest you file a bug report, emails get lost, mantainers get lost Apr 26 06:46:14 brolin_empey: here's something interesting Apr 26 06:46:16 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/minicom Apr 26 06:46:29 there's no VCS listed for the Debian packaging Apr 26 06:47:18 but if you click on 'homepage' you get taken to a repo on salsa.d.o with what appears to be upstream minicom Apr 26 06:47:25 not the Debian packaging Apr 26 06:47:40 and that version containts the following commit Apr 26 06:47:41 https://salsa.debian.org/minicom-team/minicom/-/commit/d4b0dc9a83c9988d946619c166a5f44c83adcbd4 Apr 26 09:01:23 Ubuntu will only ever upstream from Debian, and it's the same version in sid Apr 26 09:03:22 Unlikely to be fixed quickly so I'd follow there instructions on building straight from git if you want it now Apr 26 10:34:49 Hi. Looks like my IP is banned on maemo.org (have not been there for a while though) Is it alive? Apr 26 10:37:13 ~unbanip Apr 26 10:37:14 methinks unbanip is please contact techstaff maemo org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam Apr 26 10:43:41 Your public IP address is not in our database Apr 26 10:44:00 does ipv6 even work for maemo.org? Apr 26 10:44:02 try ipv4 Apr 26 10:44:25 i dont see any ipv6 address associated with maemo.org Apr 26 10:44:46 :) Apr 26 10:44:48 true that Apr 26 10:45:09 I have "black box" from my ISP Apr 26 10:45:30 my PC has NAT'ed ipv4 only Apr 26 10:45:45 then your public ip is not ipv6, no? Apr 26 10:45:58 KotCzarny: https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal show it is Apr 26 10:46:16 landgraf: then maybe your ipv4 NAT is broken Apr 26 10:46:17 then you have some proxy Apr 26 10:46:22 which you dont know about Apr 26 10:46:31 :/ Apr 26 10:47:16 well. internet.yandex.ru shows me ipv4 as well as ipv6 Apr 26 10:47:25 will try my own proxy. Apr 26 10:52:27 ok. works via proxy Apr 26 12:21:15 i guess not very many use `phone-control`, at least not for controlling media playback :) Apr 26 12:24:14 phone-control --mp-prev doesn't work. has a missing line in the bash script Apr 26 12:35:21 ~phone-control Apr 26 12:35:44 ~listkeys phone Apr 26 12:35:46 Factoid search of 'phone' by key (13 of 63): 2 hours for the phone call ;; aglaophone ;; ah, in that case it's the melody the phone ;; banana phone ;; can i have your phone number ;; cluephone ;; cphone ;; debain phone ;; dev\ phone ;; digiumphones ;; each phone ;; ethernet phone ;; ghettophone. Apr 26 12:36:03 ~listkeys control Apr 26 12:36:04 Factoid search of 'control' by key (13 of 82): aah mbcontrol ;; apache control center ;; cmd: control-l (.*?) ;; control ;; control program for microprocessors (cp/m) ;; debian kcontrol empty ;; digital control ;; glidecontrol ;; guncontrol ;; jargon control-c ;; jargon control-o ;; mechanical control ;; mediacontrol. Apr 26 12:36:10 hmm Apr 26 12:36:20 ain't gonna find it like that Apr 26 12:44:39 :) Apr 26 12:45:37 listkeys onecontr Apr 26 12:45:41 ~listkeys onecontr Apr 26 12:45:43 Factoid search of 'onecontr' by key (1): phonecontrol. Apr 26 12:45:51 ~phonecontrol Apr 26 12:45:52 [phonecontrol] http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control Apr 26 12:51:34 I knew there was a factiod for it Apr 26 12:52:36 so is this an unrelated package with the same name? Apr 26 12:55:06 it's something MAG wrote, which is based on the info in the wiki page you linked Apr 26 12:55:08 http://maemo.org/packages/view/phone-control/ Apr 26 12:56:34 there's a name i ain't heard in a while. Apr 26 12:56:38 ~mag Apr 26 12:57:15 oh maybe that factoid was my imagination Apr 26 12:57:18 MohammadAG :) Apr 26 12:57:29 yer Apr 26 12:58:09 never used it just called those dbus commands direct Apr 26 12:59:19 I assume one could make an alias file with them all in shorthand? Apr 26 13:04:18 phone-control is convenient though Apr 26 13:37:04 Should modRana still work currently? I get „tile download failed due to mapserver error“ Apr 26 13:37:27 „supl.google.com“ still pings at least… Apr 26 13:51:22 Hm Apr 26 13:52:36 Now it flashed between „Loading…“, „Downloading…“ and „tile download failed due to mapserver error“ Apr 26 13:52:39 Now again only the Error Apr 26 13:53:20 My GPS-Position seems correct Apr 26 13:54:38 But when i start the Routing it says „routing failed“ after a very short While of „online routing in progress…“ Apr 26 13:54:57 DocScrutinizer05: DocScrutinizer51: Any Ideas? ☺ Apr 26 14:05:04 I think routing is an external "plugin" in Modrana· IIRC Apr 26 14:05:38 ~listvalues modrana Apr 26 14:05:43 Factoid search of 'modrana' by value (1): modrana. Apr 26 14:05:51 ~modrana Apr 26 14:05:51 it has been said that modrana is https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana Apr 26 14:21:01 ktnx Apr 26 14:26:43 APic: the mapserver is usually openstreetmap afaik Apr 26 14:27:01 Ah Apr 26 14:27:17 Hope it will still be possible to use the Google one 😉 Apr 26 14:30:47 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58861 not sure Apr 26 15:10:52 APic: modrana for N900 has now been forked out on github from the main updates. Apr 26 15:11:07 ktnx Apr 26 15:12:10 iThe versions for n900 should still work AFAIK, I use it with the tiles i already have, never really done much routing with it. Apr 26 15:51:17 iirc routing is based on monav Apr 26 15:52:26 and modrana manages the routing maps set and uses some custom repository Apr 26 16:10:43 https://wiki.maemo.org/ModRana_offline_routing_guide Apr 26 16:56:11 monav was the name, yep Apr 26 16:56:50 and there was some nasty catch with monav version incompatibility with modrana Apr 26 16:57:12 or sth like that **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 27 02:59:57 2020