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May 06 13:34:20 <kirito> HiWhere can I find the latest kernel image Community SSU / Thumb for firmware via Flasher 3.5 or 0xFFFFFI executed the command:flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only = kernel -f -RAfter this system does not start
May 06 13:38:41 <KotCzarny> there are none
May 06 13:38:59 <KotCzarny> you have to flash official nokia's one
May 06 13:39:03 <KotCzarny> then update to cssu
May 06 13:39:31 <KotCzarny> ~flashing
May 06 13:39:31 <infobot> somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing
May 06 13:39:39 <KotCzarny> try the script
May 06 14:26:30 <kirito> I flashed u-boot and lost my normal state. Then I flashed the kernel from Nokia, but the device does not start
May 06 14:27:56 <kirito> I set up the last working state for a very long time, I do not want to lose this. Need to restore normal boot
May 06 14:32:01 <KotCzarny> well, first thing to do before flashing uboot or anything is to make a backup
May 06 14:32:07 <KotCzarny> you didnt make one?
May 06 15:19:17 <kirito> no
May 06 15:20:31 <kirito> But I have old backups, can I get the kernel from there and flash via Flash 3.5?
May 06 15:23:05 <kirito> optfs & rootfs
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May 06 23:22:10 <k1r1t0> /ping
May 06 23:56:55 <DocScrutinizer05> k1r1t0: you flash rootfs and kernel, then you may install new kernels via apt
May 06 23:57:33 <DocScrutinizer05> ~rescuefs
May 06 23:57:46 <DocScrutinizer05> ~ping
May 06 23:57:46 <infobot> 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss
May 06 23:58:13 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues rescue
May 06 23:58:20 <infobot> Factoid search of 'rescue' by value (19 of 30): yard ;; rescue disks ;; oldtest nimshi ;; #maemo bootloop ;; cd1 ;; li ;; supercow ;; cmd: deus ex machina (.*?) ;; rdev.sh ;; cmd: stth (.*?) ;; airmid ;; flimsy's mama ;; hobo danger woman ;; zip 23424 ;; pdart ;; install cdrom ;; rescue disk ;; inittab ;; syslinux.
May 06 23:58:40 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listvalues rescuefs
May 06 23:58:41 <infobot> Factoid search of 'rescuefs' by value returned no results.
May 06 23:59:00 <DocScrutinizer05> theheck
May 06 23:59:26 <DocScrutinizer05> ~listkeys *rescue*
May 06 23:59:28 <infobot> Factoid search of '*rescue*' by key (9): rescueos ;; rescue-os ;; superrescue ;; rescuecd ;; reiserfs-rescue-disk ;; rescue disk ;; cmd: rescue (.*?) ;; rescue disks ;; htcrescue.
May 07 00:00:20 <DocScrutinizer05> o.O
May 07 00:01:01 <k1r1t0> I,am clear installed stock firmware and CSSU Thumb2
May 07 00:01:49 <DocScrutinizer05> CSSU Thumb ruined a lot of your options regarding recovery and kernel
May 07 00:03:24 <DocScrutinizer05> ~thumb
May 07 00:03:24 <infobot> rumour has it, cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb
May 07 00:06:32 <DocScrutinizer05> k1r1t0: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#The_Catch
May 07 00:06:36 <DocScrutinizer05> ff
May 07 00:07:56 <k1r1t0> I,am read thread TMO
May 07 00:09:08 <k1r1t0> Thumb2 modifed kernel, not install u-boot 
May 07 00:09:33 <DocScrutinizer05> in short when you fscked up a CSSU-thumb, your only way out is to flash standard OS then install CSSU-thumb again. You prolly can't flash a matching kernel
May 07 00:10:14 <DocScrutinizer05> ~uboot
May 07 00:10:14 <infobot> N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613
May 07 00:11:37 <DocScrutinizer05> to rescue your data and root partition, you may try rescuefs
May 07 00:11:44 <DocScrutinizer05> rescueos?
May 07 00:11:50 <DocScrutinizer05> ~rescueos
May 07 00:11:51 <infobot> rescueos is probably http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/
May 07 00:15:49 <DocScrutinizer05> well, you *may* succeed to extract the kernel image for flasher-3.5.exe ... --flash-only = kernel from the .deb package of powerkernel
May 07 00:18:11 <DocScrutinizer05> given you know which jernel is the one used in u-boot. WAIT, you got thumb and u-boot? That's even more convoluted, I can't recall how exactly this is supposed to work. Chainload of powerkernel from u-boot siameste twin kernel?
May 07 00:18:50 <DocScrutinizer05> where's pali when you need him?
May 07 00:21:11 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway when you had thumb, you ran powerkernel and you need the matching modules in rootfs. When you boot any other kernel (even a different version of powerkernel) then you will get a bootloop from kernel panic since the modules make kernel barf up
May 07 00:23:15 <DocScrutinizer05> that's why restoring or flashing a rootfs renders your system fubar when you installed thumb, iirc
May 07 00:23:51 <DocScrutinizer05> likewise flashing a kernel will need flashing of rootfs for getting matching modules
May 07 00:26:04 <DocScrutinizer05> when you did a >>flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only = kernel -f<< then your system will not come up since you previously installed powerkernel modules in rootfs
May 07 00:30:21 <sicelo> with a thumb + u-boot system, you need to have KP somewhere (there's an install file for that, kernel-img iirc), and have a uboot entry for KP -> Thumb
May 07 00:35:52 <DocScrutinizer05> and how do you recover from a flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only = kernel -f  ?
May 07 00:36:35 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly by reflashing only, right?
May 07 00:38:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ~rescueos
May 07 00:38:03 <infobot> i heard rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/
May 07 00:38:08 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lf
May 07 00:38:09 <infobot> somebody said #maemo lazyflashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach
May 07 00:38:38 <sicelo> you could just reflash KP image
May 07 00:39:06 <sicelo> this will let you boot your CSSU+Thumb, and then fix your u-boot
May 07 00:39:14 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, that was what I suspected might be possible, but you need the (right version) KP image
May 07 00:43:33 <sicelo> KP53 should be fine
May 07 00:44:03 <DocScrutinizer05> and you could extract and flash --kernel-only that kernel.img ?
May 07 00:44:51 <sicelo> yes. there's actually a ready bootimg. let me see if i can find it
May 07 00:46:27 <DocScrutinizer05> k1r1t0: ^^^ 
May 07 00:47:09 <sicelo> http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/pool/free/k/kernel-cssu/kernel-cssu-bootimg_2.6.28-10cssu3_armel.deb
May 07 00:48:57 <k1r1t0> Thanks, i,am flash all image and cssu thumb2
May 07 00:50:08 <DocScrutinizer05> k1r1t0: wait, what exactly do you want to do now? flash whole device (and lose your rootfs) or flash kernel-only?
May 07 00:50:11 <sicelo> k1r1t0: if you use uboot with a Thumb system, then you MUST setup bootmenu properly to start Maemo Fremantle with the correct kernel
May 07 01:18:46 <DocScrutinizer05> aaaaah I seem to recall there was a "Do *NOT* reboot the system after installing uboot before you also installed the kernel", or sth like that
May 07 01:22:16 <DocScrutinizer05> then, what for would you use uboot in this config, if you don't have a optional system "elsewhere" non-rootfs
May 07 01:23:44 * DocScrutinizer05 re-reads >>I flashed u-boot and lost my normal state. Then I flashed the kernel from Nokia, but the device does not start<< carefully
May 07 01:26:48 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly the "simple" answer is: get the CSSU-thumb kernel image
May 07 01:35:43 <DocScrutinizer05> nevermind, I'm wrecked today/now from watching TV news all day long of politicians explaining "COVID crisis terminated, COVID management phase two starting"
May 07 01:40:01 <DocScrutinizer05> in http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/pool/free/k/kernel-cssu/kernel-cssu-bootimg_2.6.28-10cssu3_armel.deb when untaring you'll find data.tar.gz which you untar to find /boot/zImage-2.6.28.10-cssu3
May 07 01:42:33 <DocScrutinizer05> which in turn should fit for flasher-3.5 -F zImage-2.6.28.10-cssu3 --flash-only = kernel -f  ; I hope
May 07 01:43:40 <DocScrutinizer05> if it doesn't, check fiascogen to package that file in a way so it meets flasher's taste
May 07 01:44:03 <DocScrutinizer05> ~fiascogen
May 07 01:44:10 <DocScrutinizer05> damn
May 07 01:50:38 <DocScrutinizer05> Flash kernel and reboot:
May 07 01:50:39 <DocScrutinizer05> $ 0xFFFF -m kernel:<file> -f -r
May 07 01:51:34 <DocScrutinizer05> https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF/blob/master/doc/examples
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