**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 02 02:59:57 2020 Jun 02 05:58:52 sixwheeledbeast: The HDD has to always be spinning because I need the non-volatile memory of the computer to always be accessible. If an HDD is always running then it will fail, maybe like this: Jun 02 05:58:52 http://brolin.be/graphics/20191206_215725_HDD_dying_after_running_almost_continuously_for_8_years.mp4 Jun 02 06:32:44 If you're just looking for storage, the harddrives will still very likely be cheaper. Jun 02 06:32:56 Just buy two of them for reliability. Jun 02 06:33:20 hdds are also way better for long time storage Jun 02 06:35:56 HDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while HDDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB. Jun 02 06:36:02 er Jun 02 06:36:07 HDDs seem to be around NZ$50 per TB while SSDs seem to be around NZ$200 per TB. Jun 02 06:37:28 I stopped buying HDDs but I stopped buying larger than 2.5-inch HDDs before I stopped buying HDDs completely. Jun 02 06:39:17 I have some 3.5-inch HDDs that still work but are useless because I use devices that can only use 2.5-inch or smaller drives. Jun 02 06:40:21 Like laptops? Jun 02 06:40:35 I wouldn't bother putting anything other than an SSD in a laptop nowadays. Jun 02 06:41:14 Last I checked, capacity of 2.5" HDDs was also fairly limited anyway. Jun 02 06:42:05 2.5 have a much higher failure rate, also in portable devices you more likely to lose data from damage moving stuff around. You also have SMR issue Jun 02 06:44:58 limited? i have 2tb ssd in my lappy Jun 02 06:45:08 as a storage drive Jun 02 06:45:43 because tlc and stuff, but still Jun 02 06:45:53 HDD size is limited. There aren't many 2.5" HDDs bigger than 2 TB. Jun 02 06:46:11 there will be Jun 02 06:46:21 96layers 3d nands are coming Jun 02 06:46:29 *HDD* Jun 02 06:46:32 Not SSD. Jun 02 06:46:53 Space Jun 02 06:47:04 still, flash will die much faster than magnetic spindles Jun 02 06:47:11 also things like HAMR Jun 02 06:48:20 from a risk of failure POV I would archive with spinning and use SSD in portables myself. Jun 02 06:48:27 yup Jun 02 06:48:41 silicon rots Jun 02 06:49:54 You can easily knock your laptop and when you have a little damage in there you can start to loose blocks from the bits moving about. Jun 02 06:50:59 2.5" 4tb 5400rpm seagate is ~200usd Jun 02 06:52:22 5 platters inside 2.5", madness, hehe Jun 02 06:53:50 but it's quite green driver, only ~2W of active power Jun 02 06:54:09 and ~0.85-1.3W idle Jun 02 06:56:25 cant find which *MR it's using Jun 02 07:05:55 KotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off + half price. Jun 02 07:06:13 s/+/=/ Jun 02 07:06:13 sixwheeledbeast meant: KotCzarny: buy a STDR4000100 and rip the case off = half price. Jun 02 07:06:36 well it was a price for ST4000LM024 Jun 02 07:07:21 and i strongly suspect much inferior writing technology Jun 02 07:09:28 also, some usb attached drives dont have sata connector inside Jun 02 07:10:56 https://www.servethehome.com/seagate-4tb-2-5-sata-hdd-124-get-ready-density/ Jun 02 07:25:17 that's good Jun 02 07:25:24 erm, wrong chan **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 03 02:59:57 2020