**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 25 03:00:10 2020 Dec 25 15:17:38 ~sailfish Dec 25 15:17:42 ~sailfishos Dec 25 18:19:02 CatButts: create is not working on the ""J2ME SDK Mobile". Any tip for trying to de a hello-world on my moto razor Dec 25 18:19:33 no idea, I have not touched that software in ages Dec 25 18:19:40 it came as a curiosity Dec 25 18:34:41 Mmm. ok. Did It work for You on the phone? Dec 25 18:34:59 CatButts: ^^^ Dec 25 18:35:30 on my SE w800i, it worked hello world Dec 25 18:35:42 it probably helped that I had patched firmware Dec 25 18:35:51 to deal with file permissions Dec 25 18:36:05 beyond hello world, phone ran out of memory Dec 25 18:36:16 trying to compile Dec 25 18:37:47 ok. That is good to know. Did You try it on the emulator? Dec 25 18:38:41 yes Dec 25 18:38:48 I forgot which emu I used Dec 25 18:39:05 kemulator, maybe Dec 25 18:39:36 Mmm. The one that comes wyth j2me WTK? Dec 25 18:40:46 kemulator is different one Dec 25 18:45:38 ok. BTW. Did You happen to have phoneME| openWTK? Dec 25 18:46:49 by openwtk, you mean the emu that comes with 3.x WTKs? Dec 25 18:47:13 I have it, but it probably exists in abandoned state Dec 25 18:52:22 CatButts: my machine is an SBC (opi+2e). j2me dev is not possible cos preverify tool is missing. Dec 25 18:52:38 what's an SBC? Dec 25 18:52:46 so everytime i want to try an idea i need to fire-up x86 machine Dec 25 18:52:52 Single Board Computer Dec 25 18:52:59 ah Dec 25 18:53:00 ARM arch Dec 25 18:53:03 like a Pi? Dec 25 18:53:19 more open than Pi Dec 25 18:53:56 hmmmmm, preverification... Dec 25 18:54:05 can you do j2se? Dec 25 18:54:09 on your SBC? Dec 25 18:54:36 yes. i run java on my SBC Dec 25 18:55:19 https://termbin.com/ciqn Dec 25 18:55:42 Proguard for J2ME does preverification Dec 25 18:56:16 besides optimization and obfuscation Dec 25 18:57:29 Right. But not available for ARM_arch Dec 25 18:57:46 s/ARM_ach/ARM-arch/ Dec 25 18:58:04 do you mean j2se? Dec 25 18:58:19 proguard is full java Dec 25 18:58:32 though, you might want older version Dec 25 18:58:46 not sure if recent one still supports j2me Dec 25 18:58:58 mmm. when on x86 I use jdk 1.8 Dec 25 19:00:42 with maven and j2me-maven-plugin Dec 25 19:01:56 i have tried doing the same with my SBC. But preverification is not completed cos is not available for ARM. Dec 25 19:03:06 I don't know how to integrate it into your setup, but proguard is full java and does preverification Dec 25 19:03:42 I thought "J2ME Mobile SDK" could be used for doing on device development. But As You have told me memory is not enough Dec 25 19:04:38 J2ME Mobile SDK is more of an insane proof-of-concept application Dec 25 19:05:10 on my pom.xml proguard is mentioned Dec 25 19:05:32 proguard.conf Dec 25 19:06:27 all I know is this Dec 25 19:06:28 http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/proguardgui.png Dec 25 19:09:36 Oh. I see what You meant Dec 25 19:11:12 And Yes. It should be integrated with the pom.xml for this to work. :( Dec 25 19:12:51 My main curiosity today was knowing If You had got "J2ME Mobile SDK" working on device. Dec 25 19:15:57 You know for sending SMS's. I send from my computer aka SBC the file 'mensaje.vcf'. And I insert content on the field URL. then on the device I just copy the url text from the contact record. and send the sms based on the text written on the computer. But I have a limit of 128 characters Dec 25 19:19:25 i have got and basic l2cap server and client working between computer(and also n900) and device (the motorolla razor). I would like to use the j2me-l2cap-client talking to my server for bypassing 128 characters limit. That's the reason I am asking all of this questions. Thanks for the info Dec 25 19:57:01 hello, just question, has somebody still working nokia n9? I would like to know its usb ids when connected to pc Dec 25 20:13:43 Sure. Dec 25 20:13:46 https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/8d6fef87508b8f45356b9b2bff0736b6 Dec 25 20:14:07 That's plugging it in before it was turned on. Dec 25 20:15:34 (it's now in the charging stateā€”I suspect it would need to be charged to get further, if it has different ids after booting) Dec 25 20:16:26 perfect, thank you! Dec 25 20:21:44 so there are ids/strings for cold flashing (first one), nolo flashing (second one) and mass storage mode (third one) Dec 25 20:22:46 once it charges and startup, could you also change usb mode to get other ids? (I think there should be pc suite) Dec 25 20:27:24 Yep, updated the gist, with comments. Dec 25 20:28:00 I think "Sync and connect" is probably PC suite. Dec 25 20:31:15 * Maxdamantus wonders why a CD-ROM device appears in Sync and connect. Dec 25 20:31:20 Doesn't seem to be mountable. Dec 25 20:32:10 I read about it and CD-ROM should appear with windows (kernel) drivers for other usb functionality Dec 25 20:39:04 Maybe it does something funny so the CD only works on Windows. Dec 25 20:39:26 * Maxdamantus just gets ENOMEDIUM. Dec 25 23:22:03 sunshavi: I have not redd all of the recent discussion but how about using an x86 SBC instead of an ARM SBC? Dec 25 23:22:35 brolin_empey: Hey Dec 25 23:24:42 Yes. That could be an option. I would like to have an SBC with freebsd and jaling a lunix-box for cross compilation. that would be a dream come true Dec 25 23:26:09 4 Gb Mem should be the minimum I think for that use case Dec 25 23:27:00 and also I would let me use poudiere for compiling packages for freebsd on my arm SBC. You know arm use less energy than x86 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 26 03:00:13 2020