**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 06 02:59:56 2021 May 06 04:26:23 * enyc mewos May 06 05:19:30 ohhh so enyc isn't a bot May 06 08:04:52 L29Ah: =) May 06 08:05:02 L29Ah: are you a 29Ah lithium battery? May 06 08:06:28 you should've seen what he has done to his n900 May 06 08:07:40 sadly i've lost that photo, and cops have robbed me of my cute n900 May 06 08:07:50 now i'm on a plain one and suffer due to short battery life May 06 11:49:38 well, that's the price to pay for keeping battery hogs like original Hildon desktop and Skype May 06 11:51:54 or even installing a genuine Debian without power saving patches May 06 11:54:00 or just keeping WLAN scanning for APs every 5 minutes May 06 11:55:54 my device is idle 99% of time May 06 11:56:13 but pretty stock with cssu May 06 11:57:24 maybe the original flash sucks wrt idle consumption May 06 11:57:41 i've lost all my hacks with the device as i didn't back anything up May 06 11:58:04 maybe i should actually try pressing on the cops to get it back May 06 11:59:01 as i look into more modern smartphones, it feels like the low power technology went kinda backwards May 06 11:59:32 they feature huge batteries compared to n900 but about the same idle battery time May 06 12:00:06 Larger screens maybe? May 06 12:00:07 thats because android is a fat, hungry pig May 06 12:00:14 and they spend it in s2ram (as otherwise the power consumption is exorbitant) while n900 can actually run processes continually May 06 12:01:11 sicelo: KotCzarny on PinePhone you have no android, screen is off, but you still waste half a watt or smth on the idling CPU afair May 06 12:01:23 pinephone uses inefficient soc May 06 12:01:40 that might change once crust gets more mature May 06 12:01:54 but its a lots of work for smaeul and others May 06 12:02:41 KotCzarny: ohh, what are they switching to? May 06 12:03:00 crust is firmware to run on risc core May 06 12:03:24 ie. can put most of the phone to sleep when not needed May 06 12:03:26 KotCzarny: crust has nothing to do with the main CPU, no? May 06 12:03:37 yes, see the 'run on the risc core' part May 06 12:03:59 it communicates with arm cores/os via internal message box May 06 12:04:09 that has to be effectively offline and spends a LOT of time to go to sleep or to wake up, making it useless for continuous tasks, unlike n900 that can run sshd just fine May 06 12:04:16 but can control almost any hw subsystem May 06 12:04:35 not necessarily May 06 12:04:56 but anyway, allwinner isnt the most power efficient soc in the world to start with May 06 12:05:14 still, one of the few nicely REd May 06 12:05:24 and supported in mainline linux May 06 17:35:31 Does Maemo e.V. hold copyright to the Nokia Gtk themes (alpha/beta)? May 06 18:26:22 is there some licensing issue with them? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 06 23:07:25 2021 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 06 23:39:43 2021 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 07 02:59:56 2021