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Sep 24 05:03:04 <joerg> :-)
Sep 24 08:27:21 <sixwheeledbeast> yep swap on uSD was to reduce wear on the device I also recall the zram tests.
Sep 24 08:30:26 <sixwheeledbeast> I have realised this was a cheap card that came with something and it's done 5ish years. i thought it was my sandisk althou that will be older come to think of it.
Sep 24 08:31:32 <sixwheeledbeast> It was also pretty full by the look of it. i thought it was the 64 sandisk when it was a 16.
Sep 24 08:32:27 <KotCzarny> if the card was mostly used by non-updating data, then effectively it was acting like available-GB max card
Sep 24 08:32:58 <KotCzarny> if ie. on 16gb if 12gb was pics/movies, and you were using swap on it, it was acting like 4gb card
Sep 24 08:33:14 <KotCzarny> or worse, if wear levelling algo was braindead
Sep 24 08:33:32 <sixwheeledbeast> yep
Sep 24 14:00:35 <Maxdamantus> Is that necessarily true? Presumably cards could work around that by moving the old data to the worn cells.
Sep 24 14:01:16 <Maxdamantus> Maybe they don't do that for power/reliability reasons, dunno, but I highly suspect that modern SSDs will at least do that.
Sep 24 14:05:36 <Maxdamantus> I would imagine SD cards would do that as well, which would presumably explain why SD cards have such varying write speeds (because as you write to them, they might decide to move old data to worn cells, to reuse the relatively fresh cells—adding extra read/write operations within the FTL)
Sep 24 14:05:57 <KotCzarny> see the 'braindamaged wear levelling'
Sep 24 14:06:11 <KotCzarny> cheap cards have dumb firmware
Sep 24 14:06:23 <Maxdamantus> Right, but wouldn't it only behave like a 4 GB card in the case of "braindead wear levelling"?
Sep 24 14:07:03 <KotCzarny> who knows what is really on the card
Sep 24 14:07:11 <Maxdamantus> It's still obviously better to have more space free, since it means you don't have as much data to shuffle around, but 4 GB would really be the worst case.
Sep 24 14:08:40 * Maxdamantus has only bought Samsung/Sandisk cards anyway, except one time.
Sep 24 14:09:02 <KotCzarny> for me samsung evo+ 128gb failed way too early, not going to buy again
Sep 24 14:11:47 * Maxdamantus wonders if removable MTD drives will ever become a thing.
Sep 25 02:40:23 <sunshavi_>  hi guys. with the help of matt.johnston dropbear compilation is moving forward.
Sep 25 02:40:31 <sunshavi_> somebody could help me with this error
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