**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 17 02:59:57 2022 Oct 17 12:01:23 It was integration with midgard and themes that was a roadblock at the time IIRC? Oct 17 12:06:28 It seems most of *.m.o is in long term maintenance, just keeping it ticking over. migration messed a lot up and the community has fragmented to different projects. The history is important for building future projects but eventually it will no longer be required. IDK maybe that's how I see it currently? Feel free to correct me if you feel different. Oct 17 12:09:07 I have access to nuke the continuous spam and generally keep t.m.o tidy day to day. Oct 17 12:56:47 pabs3 iirc did a archive.org backup Oct 17 12:59:11 apropos, I gonna "discontinue" the NS for scratchbox.org Oct 17 13:00:06 I announced this for I think 3 years now, I don't see how I could afford paying for that any further Oct 17 14:13:16 the complete scratchbox.org content and domain been "donated" to maemo community back when, got transferred to a "24.137.128.213.in-addr.arpa. 28800 IN PTR scratchbox.maemo.org." VM, and since iirc Nokia wasn't agile enough to handle the NS record, I *temporarily* owned that duty. I'd suggest the council takes care Oct 17 14:30:02 joerg: I think we didn't end up doing the full maemo.org backup to archive.org, JAA didn't have the time to organise it at the time Oct 17 14:30:58 but looking at chat logs, scratchbox.org did get archived Oct 17 14:33:05 so yeah please do not shut down any of maemo.org before getting ArchiveTeam folks to save the domains to archive.org Oct 17 14:34:03 Jake on #maemo-admin is from ArchiveTeam and I idle on their channels on the hackint IRC network Oct 17 14:49:39 pabs3: no "shut down maemo.org" been discussed, it was about the DNS domain that's >> scratchbox.org. 23484 IN SOA dns1.odn.de. hostmaster.cloud-7.de << Oct 17 14:50:39 cloud-7 might get discontinued any time without prior notice, it's maintained by a friend of mine Oct 17 14:52:06 ODN pesters me every year about I forgot to pay for that domain Oct 17 14:52:12 ah, ok. that would be fine, you can see from the header here it got captured by ArchiveBot in August: https://web.archive.org/web/20220823172246/http://www.scratchbox.org/ Oct 17 14:53:50 the Debian repo got captured too https://web.archive.org/web/20220603035800/http://scratchbox.org/debian/ Oct 17 14:54:01 I want to transfer the ownership of the domain to council Oct 17 14:54:48 or whoever else is in charge of keeping the domain registries for *.maemo.org alive Oct 17 14:58:11 ODN: https://i.imgur.com/mvml1dC.jpg Oct 17 15:00:13 https://termbin.com/ag94 Oct 17 15:03:02 :~> whois scratchbox.org Oct 17 15:03:04 Domain Name: scratchbox.org Oct 17 15:03:05 Registry Domain ID: ad102ba5cfa4469aaf63cbe1abbe78b9-LROR Oct 17 15:03:07 Updated Date: 2022-09-08T16:25:10Z Oct 17 15:03:08 Creation Date: 2003-09-08T16:25:02Z Oct 17 15:03:10 Name Server: dns1.odn.de Oct 17 15:03:11 Name Server: dns2.odn.de Oct 17 15:43:58 actually the main issue is that it's unclear where in *.maem.org there are hardcoded references aka links to [http://]scratchbox.org, maybe even in iso images for build environment etc Oct 17 15:44:43 we wouldn't want them to point to a hijacked domain that spreads spam, porn, whatever Oct 17 16:23:56 interesting snapshot https://web.archive.org/web/20120930103004/http://scratchbox.org/ - footer reads >>Created by MOVIAL and sponsored by NOKIA<< **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 17 20:51:42 2022 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 18 02:59:57 2022