**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 28 02:59:56 2010 Mar 28 03:14:26 oh hi Mar 28 06:09:39 ah, hello there, too Mar 28 08:38:30 morning Mar 28 08:58:04 hi Mar 28 08:58:20 morning bongo|kup Mar 28 08:59:02 a good formula 1 day for you ;) Mar 28 08:59:13 hehe Mar 28 08:59:26 i've caught a throat infection, should stay in bed :P Mar 28 09:00:47 it was a good race Mar 28 09:01:34 stskeeps: thank god we have mobile devices Mar 28 09:01:44 yes Mar 28 09:01:51 no more boring sick days Mar 28 09:01:51 :P Mar 28 09:06:42 yeah, being sick is gadget time ;) Mar 28 09:07:47 and a way to avoid cleaning the house with your wife Mar 28 09:17:43 thiago_home: is there a qt creator that can generate specs for meego yet? (either published or unpublished) Mar 28 09:18:05 specs? Mar 28 09:18:15 well, if it is capable of making packaging for instance Mar 28 09:18:25 or if that's a bit out of the role of qt creator Mar 28 09:18:26 creator doesn't do packaging Mar 28 09:18:29 k Mar 28 09:18:33 maybe in the future Mar 28 09:18:45 and now I get it, you meant RPM .spec files Mar 28 09:18:47 yeah Mar 28 09:20:31 i'm just trying to see if there's a chain between qt creator down to let's say a chroot to build things basically Mar 28 09:20:36 but it seems like manual steps are needed atm Mar 28 09:22:25 qt creator knows about toolchains Mar 28 09:22:46 it also knows about deploying to devices, etc. Mar 28 09:22:54 :nod: Mar 28 09:22:59 I don't think there's any support for chroots Mar 28 09:23:04 that should be done by the toolchain itself Mar 28 09:24:17 i guess i should read up on the qt creator and madde connection for inspiration Mar 28 09:24:28 creator 2.0 Mar 28 10:02:08 * lbt just responded to qgil... Mar 28 10:03:24 he does have a point if we go by my definition, that it sorts under non-release-critical work ('community') Mar 28 10:08:16 * Stskeeps is writing a different workflow for development that is a little less heavy on the technical side Mar 28 10:08:17 Stskeeps: But having the CWG manage everything which is "community oriented" will make it far too large Mar 28 10:09:00 Jaffa: did you read my idea of definition? Mar 28 10:10:14 Jaffa: i see it being large as a benefit as to limit the amount of WG's answering directly to TSG Mar 28 10:10:29 maybe eventually some areas would evolve from under CWG to real WGs Mar 28 10:10:30 Stskeeps: yeah - but to limit it to one... Mar 28 10:11:27 and I think that new context I added "like most linux distros, Meego will inevitably consist of "Meego supported packages" and "Community supported packages" this proposal is about the latter. " Mar 28 10:11:54 CWG would be better off being named the wild west working group Mar 28 10:12:27 also the CWG could be the community piggybank Mar 28 10:12:53 * RST38h yawns and notes that all these definitions and declarations are insonsequential Mar 28 10:13:09 * lbt ignores the troll Mar 28 10:13:54 Ignoring "the troll" won't change a thing. Mar 28 10:16:04 Jaffa: I think we're aligned on that then... :) Mar 28 10:16:34 I hadn't seen your post - it took a while to write Mar 28 10:20:34 Stskeeps: URL? Mar 28 10:21:07 Jaffa: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-March/000562.html Mar 28 10:21:18 Stskeeps: ta Mar 28 10:23:20 feedback wanted on http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/Developing_in_a_Meego_Environment structure (work in progress, have to go out) Mar 28 10:26:09 Stskeeps: "It isn't 'us or them' in MeeGo." Mar 28 10:26:11 it is. Mar 28 10:26:29 I see no meego discussions here on #meego Mar 28 10:26:35 I see none on the meego ml Mar 28 10:26:47 well, it shouldn't be Mar 28 10:26:47 :P Mar 28 10:26:58 it's all happening over private comms in nokia/intel Mar 28 10:27:10 that's the whole stupid day zero/day one problematique Mar 28 10:27:38 OK... /me shuts up for 3 more days.... Mar 28 10:27:56 after that i almost insist we should be as loud as possible over things not being transparent Mar 28 10:28:00 :P Mar 28 10:28:04 cos there's no excuses Mar 28 10:28:45 yeah... I'm frustrated by the lack of discussion about day 1 Mar 28 10:28:51 if they set up a structure like this and claim it in marketing, they'll have to stick to it Mar 28 10:29:01 still, as I say... 3 days and then ... Mar 28 10:29:04 yep Mar 28 10:31:13 thoughts on the RWG not being inside the CWG ? Mar 28 10:31:37 i have to read your mail better first Mar 28 10:31:41 ok np Mar 28 10:32:14 As I said, public discussion is inconsequential. Whoever is holding the admin credentials will decide where this is going. Mar 28 10:32:22 See maemo.org. Mar 28 10:34:08 But yes, it is kinda nice to see people adapting Intel habits (lots of unpronouncable abbreviations, sometimes describing the same entity, definition documents, etc. :)) Mar 28 12:17:17 RST38h: Despite ineffiiciences, at least the bits of maemo.org (incl. large swathes of the infrastructure) are at community disposal. Mar 28 15:59:48 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanharper94/ what are these called? Mar 28 16:00:22 CosmoHill: domo-kun Mar 28 16:00:32 thanks Mar 28 16:01:03 http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs206.snc1/7319_642648974510_36904498_41151108_5978527_n.jpg Mar 28 16:01:11 * Robot101 has one in the office... got bored one day... :) Mar 28 16:01:15 ... Mar 28 16:01:34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domo-Kun Mar 28 16:01:36 awesome Mar 28 16:02:34 http://forums.kustompcs.co.uk/showthread.php?p=470452#post470452 Mar 28 16:06:06 I have Boo somewhere Mar 28 16:06:17 he's next to my bed atm but is often on my desk Mar 28 16:06:29 http://cosmo1847.co.uk/blog/pics/boo.jpg Mar 28 16:07:34 Who's the angry looking guy in the rabbit suit? Mar 28 16:09:30 no idea Mar 28 16:11:13 Well... of course this is the most relevant: one: http://tenletter.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/hp001.jpg Mar 28 19:17:09 hi all Mar 28 19:33:39 hi Tm_T Mar 28 19:34:35 What one do you think is better? http://black-flag.co.uk/files/list-layout.png or http://black-flag.co.uk/files/box-layout.png Mar 28 19:51:01 CosmoHill: for eshop? box layout Mar 28 19:51:11 thanks Mar 28 19:51:15 may i ask why? Mar 28 19:51:23 (this is a university assignment) Mar 28 19:52:31 CosmoHill: especially when talking about clothes, your eyes seeks pics, in box layout the pics are the main items, not the text Mar 28 19:52:46 thank you Mar 28 19:52:49 also you see more items at one glance Mar 28 20:05:53 * CosmoHill should write his down Mar 28 20:05:57 this* Mar 28 20:06:31 Box layout is good for a front page type thing, as it looks more inviting, but for subsequent pages, the listing is easier to skim Mar 28 20:07:07 I have the box layout to display all the product categories, dresses, shoes etc Mar 28 20:07:20 i was thinking of using the list layout for the items in the category Mar 28 20:08:49 *nods* That's a good plan Mar 28 20:08:56 Also to distinguish categories from items Mar 28 20:12:14 hmm, good advise Mar 28 20:37:54 leinir: you Mar 28 20:38:02 Argh! *hides* ;) Mar 28 20:38:05 Yeees? :) Mar 28 20:38:50 just familiar face here at this time of the day (: Mar 28 20:38:58 Aah *giggles* :) Mar 28 20:46:34 leinir: what you do these days? Mar 28 20:48:32 work hard on my MSc, and on Gluon :) Mar 28 20:49:41 my lapyop froze :( Mar 28 20:50:41 leinir: righto (: Mar 28 22:29:40 anyone here good with audio equipment? Mar 28 22:30:38 nope Mar 28 22:30:46 how good? Mar 28 22:31:02 well I need a cable for a subwoofer Mar 28 22:31:20 is the ui going to be changed at all for the next release? i heard its coming out the end of this month, we are running out of days Mar 28 22:31:25 but I want a good cable cos a bad one will just make a constant rumble Mar 28 22:31:44 in what setting? Mar 28 22:31:58 house/car? Mar 28 22:32:03 fishie: I think meego is using the moblin UI for 1.0 but will have a new UI for 1.1 Mar 28 22:32:08 oh sorry, house, my bedroom Mar 28 22:32:18 what amp? Mar 28 22:32:36 Cambridge Audio 340R Mar 28 22:33:25 anything over £1/m is wasted money :) Mar 28 22:33:39 QED79 or equivalent is fine Mar 28 22:33:57 obviously crappy bellwire isn't a good idea Mar 28 22:36:06 CosmoHill: http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/2x177-clr/twin-2a-figure-8-100m-clr/dp/CB00401 Mar 28 22:36:35 the sub is active and takes a RCA lead Mar 28 22:37:05 In that case you need an RCA cable :) Mar 28 22:37:29 Like I have for my Rel Stratus Mar 28 22:38:36 http://www.richersounds.com/product/av-interconnects/cambridge-audio/sub-link-7.5m/camb-sublink-7.5m Mar 28 22:39:59 http://cpc.farnell.com/_/pga4109/phono-subwoofer-lead-10m/dp/AV04605?Ntt=10msubwoofer Mar 28 22:46:15 CosmoHill: http://cpc.farnell.com/_/680059/lead-phono-plug-plug-75r-10m/dp/AV04344 Mar 28 22:46:31 ooo Mar 28 22:47:29 cpc/farnell are excellent Mar 28 22:48:52 hmm, £60 subwoofer lead o.o Mar 28 22:49:21 there's a £90 one too Mar 28 22:49:42 that's worrying as the sub is £100 :o Mar 28 22:52:23 http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/moreinfo.cfm/Product_ID/4671 ? Mar 28 23:12:05 lbt: how fast are cpc postage? Mar 29 00:41:09 night night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:09:14 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:44:14 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:59:57 2010