**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 27 02:59:57 2010 Apr 27 04:57:59 hrm Apr 27 04:58:08 does meego have an intel rootfs? Apr 27 05:02:31 huh? Apr 27 05:03:19 i'd like to setup a scratchbox so i can build stuff Apr 27 05:03:50 but i don't have a working build env, i'm hoping to be able to download a single file which gives me a rootfs for i386 (or i586, i'm not very picky) Apr 27 05:04:49 the fact that repo.m2.org doesn't match reepo.meego.com is hardly reassuring Apr 27 05:08:50 ping? :) Apr 27 06:56:20 DawnFoster: ping Apr 27 07:09:26 o/ Apr 27 07:09:43 morning lbt Apr 27 09:09:36 morning slaine Apr 27 09:10:13 morning Stskeeps Apr 27 09:10:17 more meetings :( Apr 27 09:20:43 hello people Apr 27 09:23:25 lo wazd Apr 27 09:24:56 Stskeeps: heya :) Apr 27 09:25:28 Morning, all Apr 27 09:25:40 Good morning Jaffa Apr 27 12:20:20 can someone help me out with tutorials for meego? Apr 27 12:20:39 making or getting? Apr 27 12:20:51 getting Apr 27 12:22:19 on what level? app development? Apr 27 12:22:50 yeah app development Apr 27 12:22:59 look at qt tutorials Apr 27 12:23:25 same library? Apr 27 12:24:46 yeah Apr 27 12:24:54 qt sdk should work for meego eventually Apr 27 12:25:35 so just the header files need to be changed? Apr 27 12:27:11 not really, qt is a api you can build against :) Apr 27 12:28:05 okay Apr 27 12:28:16 so incase i want to export it to another platform later? Apr 27 12:28:31 will that be posible? Apr 27 12:29:13 if it runs qt :) Apr 27 12:29:24 hehe Apr 27 12:29:29 thats true Apr 27 12:29:35 can write against qt on meego and recompile it for qt on symbian if you want Apr 27 12:29:37 so say n900.will it support? Apr 27 12:29:52 yes, qt4.6's coming in PR1.2 Apr 27 12:30:03 okay Apr 27 12:30:31 by symbian you mean older editions like S60 3rd? Apr 27 12:30:46 go check out http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/04/27/nokia-rolls-out-qt-sdk-for-unified-mobile-developer-experience/ Apr 27 12:33:37 thats great news Apr 27 12:40:43 that video was pretty good too, with some n8/n900 video in it. Apr 27 12:41:13 n8 looks very interesting device indeed. Apr 27 12:42:22 I always thought the n810 was a great device Apr 27 12:42:42 I would have liked to see that form factor develop further Apr 27 12:42:55 The promise of MID's has yet to be fulfilled Apr 27 12:43:04 and probably won't be now Apr 27 12:43:16 pitty that it did not have good opengl drivers Apr 27 12:44:06 Hopefully we'll see a moorsetown version shortly :) Apr 27 14:05:33 hmm, I should take another shot at getting meego running on a beagleboard. Apr 27 14:05:45 what are the exact requirements for the kernel used? Apr 27 14:06:06 when I tried it with an ånström kernel it ran for a bit and then the boot process just stopped. Apr 27 14:06:25 WAHa_06x36: if you have watchdogs, you need to add support Apr 27 14:08:46 Stskeeps: where? Apr 27 14:09:16 slaine: got a minute? Apr 27 14:09:25 sure Apr 27 14:11:08 WAHa_06x36: ok, so, does it reboot if you do init=/bin/sh ? Apr 27 14:11:42 in the boot arguments? let's see... Apr 27 14:12:30 * lbt was looking at btrfs Apr 27 14:12:48 it looks pretty unsuitable for small devices Apr 27 14:13:06 for a 1Gb partition it uses 269M in metadata Apr 27 14:13:19 asking on btrfs that "sounds about right" Apr 27 14:14:13 also, until 2.6.34 there's a bug which, AFAICT, doubles metadata usage Apr 27 14:14:53 waouh 296M ! Apr 27 14:15:31 lbt, that's more space than my minimal moblin install takes up Apr 27 14:17:03 Stskeeps: ALMOST the same thing happens. Apr 27 14:17:12 WAHa_06x36: hmm Apr 27 14:17:15 Stskeeps: with init=/bin/sh it stops at "Freeing init memory: 180K" Apr 27 14:17:32 Stskeeps: without it, it stops there, and then half a second later there's a "omap_wdt: Unexpected close, not stopping!" Apr 27 14:17:33 WAHa_06x36: what's your kernel cmdline? Apr 27 14:17:37 that might just be random timing, I guess. Apr 27 14:17:41 nah, watchdogs prolly Apr 27 14:17:51 is the initrd being found ? Apr 27 14:17:57 console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait omapfb.video_mode=1024x768MR-16@60 Apr 27 14:18:04 that usually happens when it can't find a root fs Apr 27 14:18:08 lbt, ext4 looks kinda tolerable in my latency tests Apr 27 14:18:12 this is just copypasted from Ångström instructions. Apr 27 14:19:05 but the resiots of tiobench looks so good it's probably lie ;p Apr 27 14:19:05 WAHa_06x36: ok, so, it shows kernel output where? Apr 27 14:19:18 Stskeeps: on the serial port. Apr 27 14:19:30 hmm Apr 27 14:19:39 I'll try to grab a copy of all of it. Apr 27 14:19:43 WAHa_06x36: well, it's watchdogs causing i guess Apr 27 14:20:33 http://pastebin.com/RRJJrvyp is the full output. Apr 27 14:21:34 do you use a initrd? Apr 27 14:23:07 Stskeeps: I am just using whatever is on the downloadable meego filesystem, and loading the kernel through u-boot. Apr 27 14:23:29 WAHa_06x36: open or closed image? Apr 27 14:23:45 Stskeeps: not sure what that refers to. Apr 27 14:23:58 tablets-dev.nokia.com or repo.meego.com downloaded Apr 27 14:23:59 :P Apr 27 14:24:07 Stskeeps: meego.com, then. Apr 27 14:24:12 k, open image Apr 27 14:27:32 WAHa_06x36: it looks like a watchdog reboot, so we need to disable that in kernel i guess or make a wd kicker Apr 27 14:28:18 Stskeeps: well, it stops for quite a long time at that point before actually rebooting. not sure if that means it's the watchdog. Apr 27 14:28:24 like a minute or so. Apr 27 14:29:18 60s is fairly normal value Apr 27 14:29:36 (also, of course, it boots fine with an Ångström filesystem) Apr 27 14:31:19 It looks like its not finding the rootfs and just sitting there. I'm surprised there's no error message Apr 27 14:33:24 oh. Apr 27 14:33:27 OH. Apr 27 14:33:41 I saw a note about the framebuffer in the bootup. Apr 27 14:33:49 so I actually connected a monitor. Apr 27 14:34:06 and it's showing a bash prompt! Apr 27 14:34:21 for a while, I guess until the idle timout hits and it closes, and reboots. Apr 27 14:34:53 for some reason, it is not bothering to start any kind of login on the serial console. Apr 27 14:36:29 that's not terribly useful since I don't have a keyboard, though. Apr 27 14:36:37 but it is a much less mysterious problem. Apr 27 14:36:49 inittab Apr 27 14:37:03 remove the console=tty0 for now i guess Apr 27 14:38:32 I suppose I should enable the getty line for serial, too. Apr 27 14:39:49 wait, it is enabled, but it's on ttyS0 and the bootargs say ttyS2. Apr 27 14:39:54 I'll try changing that. Apr 27 14:41:46 that worked, now I have a login prompt. Apr 27 14:41:53 that I can't log into because I don't know any passwords! Apr 27 14:42:50 also it reboots after a while, which I guess is the watchdog. Apr 27 14:43:46 so what are those logins? Apr 27 14:44:13 root/meego Apr 27 14:44:23 check your monitor for an xterm Apr 27 14:45:02 root/meego doesn't seem to work. Apr 27 14:45:17 also the monitor shows an xterm, but it's not much use without a keyboard. Apr 27 14:46:19 root logins may not be enabled on the serial port Apr 27 14:46:22 ah Apr 27 14:46:23 yes Apr 27 14:46:25 etc/securetty Apr 27 14:47:34 ShadowJK: OK, I'll try that... Apr 27 14:50:22 Stskeeps: all right, that worked. Apr 27 14:50:38 now I just need to find out how to keep the watchdog from killing the system. Apr 27 15:08:06 WAHa_06x36: Isn't Beagleboard mainlined? If you use a later kernel, it uses an OMAP watchdog driver that is like a normal watchdog and doesn't need kicking Apr 27 15:09:20 thiago, :D http://liqbase.net/lego/lego.htm Apr 27 15:09:35 Termana: this is .32, if it matters. Apr 27 15:09:54 also, it clearly needs SOMETHING done to it, since it's rebooting the system. Apr 27 15:10:21 lcuk: :-) Apr 27 15:13:03 lcuk: awesome. Apr 27 15:13:49 w00t_, they are trying to choose a suitable handheld device that fits their hands :D Apr 27 15:14:07 stylus works well lol Apr 27 15:14:10 lcuk nice! Apr 27 15:15:18 DawnFoster: Quick pm? Apr 27 15:15:32 sure Apr 27 15:16:55 * Stskeeps yawns Apr 27 15:20:23 WAHa_06x36: is there a /dev/watchdog ? Apr 27 15:20:38 you probably just have to write to that every 20 seconds or so Apr 27 15:24:11 slaine: yes, and writing to it gets another "omap_wdt: Unexpected close, not stopping!" Apr 27 15:25:38 slaine: what device were you talking about earlier? I lost the top part of my scrollback.. :P Apr 27 15:26:55 slaine: also, writing to it does seem to keep the system alive, but it also keeps spewing that line. Apr 27 15:27:07 slaine: there's got to be a way to turn it off, since Ångström seems to manage it. Apr 27 15:45:52 DawnFoster: I saw your email. I'll reply. I just got email back after about a week Apr 27 15:46:10 thanks bspencer! Apr 27 16:05:23 * lbt replies on the RWG/Surrounds Group/Downloads Group thread... Apr 27 16:06:25 and then goes back to the community autobuilder ... which really isn't a part of "Downloads" and really has nothing to do with end-users... although it *is* part of the community Surrounds... Apr 27 16:06:27 what's wrong with 'Extras'? :P Apr 27 16:06:44 not a lot - but it means something already Apr 27 16:07:16 I'm only objecting to "Downloads"... Apr 27 16:07:25 i vote for MeeGo X2 as name for it Apr 27 16:07:25 :P Apr 27 16:07:47 R2D2 Apr 27 16:07:54 I think we should be careful about what we're naming Apr 27 16:08:04 it's the name of a meeting Apr 27 16:09:00 I really don't want it to be the "garage working group" or the "Extras working group" Apr 27 16:09:10 depending on the url of the relevant service Apr 27 16:09:55 I want it to be "the user application and community library suite QA and policy committee" Apr 27 16:10:13 or something equally non-commital towards branding Apr 27 16:11:38 name memory overflow Apr 27 16:12:09 yeah, I'm lazy ... so one word that says "not core" and "the rest of the crap" does me fine Apr 27 16:12:58 mainly "not core" ... so it's not owned by a bunch of Intel/Nokia employees on internal lists with marketing vetos over what can be done Apr 27 16:13:27 (Not that I'm against that - I just want to be clear that this isn't it) Apr 27 16:13:42 'Land of ze crazies' Apr 27 16:13:50 The Suburbs Apr 27 16:14:04 meh, getting fed up about it all Apr 27 16:14:07 Meegoville Apr 27 16:14:17 The People Whose Opinions Aren't Relevant *eg* Apr 27 16:14:25 Apr 27 16:14:38 'cannon fodder' Apr 27 16:18:51 lbt, What about Eco, as in Eco System Apr 27 16:19:55 Eco as in "These people are probably useful for marketting purposes. Much like that trendy Green crap." Apr 27 16:19:56 that works Apr 27 16:20:16 * lbt is loving the cynicism tonight :) Apr 27 16:21:26 GAN900 <-- bitter =) Apr 27 16:21:56 lbt, I'll make a formal proposal via the list then Apr 27 16:22:02 see if anyone else bites Apr 27 16:22:11 On the other hand, they are a large corporation. do you expect them to be sociable or even reasonable? Apr 27 16:22:17 there's not a huge amount of interest is there. Apr 27 16:23:01 * lbt goes back to his meego cubicle Apr 27 16:23:02 ah feck, I did a reply all again Apr 27 16:23:06 sorry Apr 27 16:23:24 I always reply-all to dev lists Apr 27 16:23:47 someone gave out to me for doing it (only because I gave out to them for thread hijacking) Apr 27 16:23:54 devs have the ability to setup email filters Apr 27 16:24:00 nod Apr 27 16:24:30 mails with me in the To: go to my inbox - otherwise filed into the list folder Apr 27 16:24:38 same here Apr 27 16:24:42 good old maildrop Apr 27 16:24:56 seive :) Apr 27 16:25:20 I can't help but read 'meeeco' Apr 27 16:25:24 hehe Apr 27 16:27:30 lbt, the Meego Extras Applications Meeting Organisation - MAEMO for short :p Apr 27 16:27:46 dare you Apr 27 16:27:50 heh Apr 27 16:27:55 lol Apr 27 16:28:25 * lbt waits to see if working down south has softened him up.... Apr 27 16:28:48 souther pansy Apr 27 16:28:52 ^n Apr 27 18:55:58 * CosmoHill looks at GAN9001 and wonders if he has two different phone Apr 27 18:55:59 s Apr 27 18:56:58 GAN is actualy encrypted 'HAL' Apr 27 18:57:47 HAL9000+1, interesting model. Apr 27 18:58:47 -.- Apr 27 19:08:40 great movie too Apr 27 19:09:41 GAN9001? Apr 27 19:19:57 * slaine yawns Apr 27 19:21:11 * Stskeeps too Apr 27 19:21:43 even though i'm tempted to hack till late night as i will be in a car towards .dk thursday Apr 27 19:30:19 Makefile:31: *** missing separator. Stop. Apr 27 19:30:21 :( Apr 27 19:32:39 * lbt googles a problem and finds his own page... Apr 27 19:32:52 lbt: :D Apr 27 19:32:53 * CosmoHill pets lbt Apr 27 19:33:13 You should know the solution then, right? Apr 27 19:33:23 if only... Apr 27 19:33:58 conclusion: never never ever post your questions before googling answers for them. Apr 27 19:34:02 3. removing the extension doesnt make it a folder, god i hate windows. Apr 27 19:34:02 lol Apr 27 19:34:42 Who would want that? :D Apr 27 19:34:43 some people can't google Apr 27 19:35:06 they swear they type "exactly the same terms" into google and it returns nthing Apr 27 19:35:10 i'm reading a thread about it Apr 27 19:35:19 RST38h: further down the page is "what is VIM?" Apr 27 19:35:41 I had a great one today Apr 27 19:35:42 thats because there are no results with line 31! Apr 27 19:35:47 "Whats a network cable" Apr 27 19:35:52 I ran screaming Apr 27 19:36:48 * lbt googles $1$wYJUgpM5$RXMMeASDc035eX.NbYWFl0 Apr 27 19:37:40 hey, that's my passwords hash! Apr 27 19:38:18 let me check... what's your password Apr 27 19:39:26 Apr 27 19:40:58 slaine: should have stangled them with one Apr 27 19:41:22 "THIS IS AN RJ45 UTP CAT6 BITCH!" Apr 27 19:41:54 lol Apr 27 19:42:03 and with that, I'm outta here Apr 27 19:42:07 catch you all tomorrow Apr 27 19:42:10 suihkulokki: you have "linux" as your pw? bad boy! Apr 27 19:43:26 anyone wanna see my makefile and help me? :) Apr 27 19:45:32 pastebin it Apr 27 19:48:00 does meego have it's own pastebin? Apr 27 19:48:13 http://linuxfromscratch.pastebin.com/b2K5p5nh Apr 27 19:49:14 you know makefiles use TAB to indent... Apr 27 19:50:34 if you remove the last two lines it works fine Apr 27 19:51:03 son of a bitch Apr 27 19:51:06 thanks lbt Apr 27 19:51:12 Cosmo: you used spaces instead of tabs there Apr 27 19:51:37 my text editor was set to soft tabs Apr 27 19:51:46 which converts tabs to spaces when you enter them Apr 27 19:51:48 use emacs Apr 27 19:52:19 ew, soft tabs sux Apr 27 19:53:28 thanks guy :) Apr 27 19:55:47 do I want to wrap the install and uninstall in #ifndef WIN32 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 27 20:12:00 2010 Apr 27 20:42:42 I might port my game over to Qt and have graphics in the summer :) Apr 27 20:44:49 if we have ninja ops, how true is this: http://www.little-gamers.com/2010/04/12/show-mercy-i-am-playing-ffxiii/ Apr 27 21:23:20 hello, i have a question... can i install meego on my system? Apr 27 21:27:37 maybe Apr 27 21:27:42 vic oh damn he's gone Apr 27 21:27:52 impaicent sOB Apr 27 21:28:19 CosmoHill, perhaps he installed it already Apr 27 21:36:19 hello, i have a question... can i install meego on my system? Apr 27 21:36:55 * lcuk senses deja vu Apr 27 21:37:52 victor____, how would anybody know what your system is? and how can they get a chance to ask your if you leave after a couple of minutes? Apr 27 21:39:23 my connection sucks... but i'm rith here... i'm using moblin 2.1 and i would like to try meego as the website let download de img... so i just wanna know if someone has tried it and if i could install and use it as my OS... Apr 27 21:39:46 hello victor____ Apr 27 21:39:52 hi Apr 27 21:39:59 you have a long tail Apr 27 21:40:09 lol yeah ;) Apr 27 21:40:17 victor____: first of all, do you realise the current MeeGo images are early developer releases? Apr 27 21:40:52 yeah and what does it mean? Apr 27 21:41:05 it means the x86 image has no GUI Apr 27 21:41:10 and the ARM image boots to xterm Apr 27 21:41:15 so meego's still nothing? Apr 27 21:41:30 it's an xterm and you can install qt Apr 27 21:41:44 which means? Apr 27 21:41:54 my x86 meego has a gui... and an app too! Apr 27 21:42:00 shopper on joggler? Apr 27 21:42:02 it means it's an early developer image Apr 27 21:42:05 it's a little x cursor that follows your finger like a pet Apr 27 21:42:11 it's for platform developers to start playing with it and developing it Apr 27 21:42:16 are you a platform developer? Apr 27 21:42:18 Stskeeps: soon... Apr 27 21:42:21 lbt: i have a hamster for that Apr 27 21:42:33 * lbt renames Xorg Hamsterorg Apr 27 21:42:34 lol i'm a fucking exubuntu user ... so imaging Apr 27 21:42:44 please watch your language Apr 27 21:42:48 * CosmoHill shakes a swear jar at victor____ Apr 27 21:42:50 I'd guess then that this image is not for you Apr 27 21:42:59 please wait a bit more and there will be a full release Apr 27 21:43:04 so do i... Apr 27 21:43:08 in the mean time try gentoo :) Apr 27 21:43:17 and when is it coming out? Apr 27 21:43:29 october i think for 1.1. Apr 27 21:43:46 too much wait ... Apr 27 21:43:48 may = 1.0, october 1.1 Apr 27 21:43:56 MeeGo - We're working on it! Just wait! Apr 27 21:44:16 bit the 1,0 one is being able to be installed? Apr 27 21:44:23 *but Apr 27 21:44:28 hopefully Apr 27 21:44:29 :P Apr 27 21:44:38 Meego 1.0 - Need more coffee Apr 27 21:44:58 i cant wait for it ... Apr 27 21:45:07 moblin's kind of boring ... Apr 27 21:45:47 MeeGo Nukem Forever Apr 27 21:46:55 and do you know what's new on meego... i mean the differences between mobling 2.1 and meego for netbooks Apr 27 21:48:12 javispedro: really? Apr 27 21:48:15 cool Apr 27 21:48:26 victor____: no, we don't know yet Apr 27 21:48:51 lbt: :( Apr 27 22:11:12 nite all, sweet dreams Apr 27 22:20:27 crap Apr 27 22:20:38 I need to make a distractor Apr 27 22:20:43 destructor* Apr 27 22:21:22 lol CosmoHill irc is a distractor ;) Apr 27 22:21:43 and it takes up memory when it goes out of scope Apr 27 22:23:36 indeed Apr 27 22:26:19 well, that's what happens when you try to do your work while IRC'ing Apr 27 22:26:28 depends Apr 27 22:26:42 "I'm compiling" is a perfectly valid excuse when Qt is involved :-) Apr 27 22:26:50 and oh the irony, mine just finished Apr 27 22:27:11 The Hives is cool Apr 27 22:27:23 it takes 10 seconds to compile my program Apr 27 22:28:28 w00t_: yeah, that xkcd strip is in several offices in the office Apr 27 22:28:37 awesome :D Apr 27 22:28:38 hehe Apr 27 22:28:50 I was gonna print the debug flow chart Apr 27 22:28:57 do you actually trundle chairs down the halls while waving pirate swords? Apr 27 22:29:23 no, we have teambuilder Apr 27 22:29:33 Qt builds take 7 minutes for me Apr 27 22:29:38 and that's a full build Apr 27 22:29:40 bah :p Apr 27 22:29:41 I've done a lap of the work stations backwards whilst chasing simon Apr 27 22:29:56 I am seriously contemplating setting up a home compile farm Apr 27 22:30:02 I have enough cores here, god knows Apr 27 22:30:04 xkcd comic strips also share space with dilbert strips Apr 27 22:30:13 and print-outs of stupid emails Apr 27 22:30:19 what is a compile farm? Apr 27 22:30:27 is it a cluster where you send work to the headnode? Apr 27 22:30:33 or a load of computers with distcc on them? Apr 27 22:30:43 stupid questions set to support or the latest round of "reply-to-all-of-nokia" emails Apr 27 22:31:07 CosmoHill: distcc is a couple of generations behind what we have Apr 27 22:31:07 thiago_home: if there actually is an address to the whole of nokia.. :) Apr 27 22:31:23 you have a cloud Apr 27 22:31:24 w00t_: I don't know if there still is one. There was one two months ago. Apr 27 22:31:29 hah Apr 27 22:31:31 CosmoHill: yes and no Apr 27 22:31:35 we have workstations Apr 27 22:31:39 they are the cloud Apr 27 22:32:03 thiago_home, 7 mins for a complete qt build is extremely impressive Apr 27 22:32:07 a workstation with a lot of work will share if with other work stations with not so much work? Apr 27 22:32:20 it works like this: each developer runs a build server. There's one build scheduler in the network. Apr 27 22:32:35 when you build, gcc is actually a symlink to the build tool Apr 27 22:32:41 it contacts the scheduler and gets queued Apr 27 22:32:56 if the scheduler says "build locally", it calls the actual gcc and builds Apr 27 22:33:13 if the scheduler says "build on this machine", it runs only the preprocessor and sends that over the network to the other machine Apr 27 22:33:21 the other machine then builds and ships back the .o Apr 27 22:34:04 adding a scheduler is one generation ahead of distcc Apr 27 22:34:15 I wonder if we could do that at uni Apr 27 22:34:16 then we added the ability to ship your compiler to other machines Apr 27 22:34:32 atm you have media students rendering on machines for a week or two at a time Apr 27 22:34:38 and then we added the ability to use cross compilers (i.e., a 64-bit cross-compiler for 32-bit machines) Apr 27 22:34:45 or the ARM cross-compiler Apr 27 22:34:51 you work for nokia right? Apr 27 22:35:00 our next goal is to rid of the scheduler and do a distributed network Apr 27 22:35:01 yeah Apr 27 22:35:08 any jobs going? :p Apr 27 22:35:09 thiago_home: icecream sounds remotely similar Apr 27 22:35:19 w00t_: yes, it's the same as icecream Apr 27 22:35:36 thiago_home: I may talk to you more about this Apr 27 22:35:40 the only difference I know of is the case of multi-arch cross-compilers and PCH support. Apr 27 22:35:50 yes Apr 27 22:36:00 whenever you want to Apr 27 22:36:07 I'm trying to work out what to do for my disseration Apr 27 22:36:43 I need to make a list of hardware I have, what the staff would like and educational outcomes Apr 27 22:36:47 *academic Apr 27 22:37:49 w00t_: you should see the protocol we invented for the distributed work. :-) Apr 27 22:38:09 multicast, encrypted, multiple networks, dealing with firewalls Apr 27 22:38:54 mmm :> Apr 27 22:38:59 it hole punches? Apr 27 22:39:17 no, the point is that some machines will send UDP packets, but will not receive the replies Apr 27 22:39:29 so you've got nodes who keep poisoning the network Apr 27 22:40:01 they would send offer to join the network and run compile jobs, but they wouldn't actually accept any jobs Apr 27 22:40:58 heh Apr 27 22:41:04 right Apr 27 22:41:37 what kinda network do you have? Apr 27 22:41:40 GbE? Apr 27 22:41:46 yes Apr 27 22:41:49 nice Apr 27 22:41:54 but FastEthernet is enough Apr 27 22:41:55 thiago_home, nice, is the distributed doofer open source? Apr 27 22:42:02 really? Apr 27 22:42:07 lcuk: well, it doesn't exist in code yet Apr 27 22:42:13 it's just ideas in a wiki Apr 27 22:42:29 you just said you can build qt in 7mins over distributed net? Apr 27 22:42:40 wait Apr 27 22:42:40 or is this a different app Apr 27 22:42:43 we have a compile farm Apr 27 22:42:44 I maybe building a beowulf cluster with a 100Mb/s switch Apr 27 22:42:45 * ljp hugs teambuilder Apr 27 22:42:58 I meant that the next generation of the tool we want to do in a distributed fashion Apr 27 22:42:59 READ THIS LOG Apr 27 22:43:07 now I can find this in my history :) Apr 27 22:43:08 without needing to install and run a scheduler Apr 27 22:43:28 thiago_home, cool, maybe you can FIXED the qtbug about multicast whilst you are building it :D Apr 27 22:43:29 heh, hrm Apr 27 22:43:42 CosmoHill: the preprocessed source is often under 2 MB. When compressed, it sends very quickly. Apr 27 22:43:48 the size of .o files is also very small. Apr 27 22:44:05 the only performance hit is when you need to transfer your compiler to another machine. Even then, it's around 10 MB. Apr 27 22:44:13 or one second under FastEthernet Apr 27 22:44:22 lcuk: yeah Apr 27 22:44:28