**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 11 02:59:56 2010 May 11 04:03:51 I need a tutorial that teaches configure the emulator Meego on Qt creator May 11 04:04:57 i need help---> error: Could not find make command: make in the build environment May 11 05:13:43 hi May 11 05:14:27 am trying to create MeeGo rootfs using mic2 May 11 05:14:57 what option I have to give for format=? May 11 05:17:06 has any one tried creating MeeGo rrotfs? May 11 05:30:02 I think you'll like the videos of the Linux Collaboration summits MeeGo workgroup recordings, once I've managed to upload them May 11 05:30:16 Moo Myrtti May 11 07:35:23 offtopic http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/ scroll down 1/3 of page to get some interesting pictures (good for work!) May 11 07:38:23 good morning Stskeeps May 11 07:39:03 morning erani May 11 07:39:04 er, Termana May 11 07:40:21 Hello, not exactly a MeeGo question, but anyway. Anybody know where I can get Ti OMAP 3430 datasheet? Is it public at all? May 11 07:41:14 did you look on ti website? May 11 07:41:20 Terwiz, someone has linked to one in the n900 overclock website I think May 11 07:41:26 overclock thread* rather May 11 07:41:39 Yes, could not find it on Ti site May 11 07:44:00 http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/omap3530.html close enough? May 11 07:45:32 I wonder what's the difference between 3530 and 3430 May 11 07:46:32 They do seem pretty similar May 11 07:46:35 One has a 4 and one has a 5 May 11 07:46:39 :P lol May 11 07:47:22 packaging and distribution iirc May 11 07:47:36 yeah May 11 07:47:44 Yeah, 100 is correct answer too. :) May 11 07:47:46 OMAP34x and OMAP36x are distributed directly to large handset (such as cell phone) manufacturers. OMAP35x is a variant of OMAP34x intended for catalog distribution channels. May 11 07:47:55 (according to wikipedia) May 11 07:48:08 OMAP3440 - 800 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor) May 11 07:48:14 rah May 11 07:48:15 sorry May 11 07:48:17 OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor) May 11 07:48:25 OMAP3530 - 720 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX530 GPU + 520 MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor) May 11 07:48:25 heheheh May 11 07:48:36 Okay, so I'll be okay with 3530 datasheet for now. May 11 07:48:52 Thanks for the help May 11 09:33:31 aquat May 11 09:40:45 a/act May 11 09:40:50 Grr. May 11 10:15:28 hey lcuk --- maybe you missed http://apina.biz/29334.jpg May 11 10:20:09 pupnik, I lol'ed May 11 10:27:31 lol pupnik May 11 11:47:54 * CosmoHill glares are fireworks May 11 11:48:17 I made a nice "for sale" banner May 11 11:48:25 but when I rotated it it screwed up :( May 11 11:49:30 CosmoHill, just turn your monitor on its side May 11 11:50:37 I'll try CS4 instead May 11 12:36:21 quit() May 11 12:36:45 that wasweird May 11 13:05:10 sigh, what a day May 11 13:05:21 * CosmoHill offers slaine some tea May 11 13:05:37 * slaine has a large mug of coffee May 11 13:05:42 * Stskeeps passes slaine a pint May 11 13:05:51 that's better May 11 13:05:55 nom nom nom May 11 13:06:00 I wonder what happens if you drop an expresso into a pint May 11 13:06:18 slaine: i bet you weren't on hold for >2 hours waiting to talk to your employers customer service! May 11 13:06:52 lol, no, i was in back to back meetings all morning and just had breakfast and lunch May 11 13:07:25 i had to give up on my 2+hr hold call in order to get to work before lunch closed May 11 13:08:43 you shouldn't have to wait May 11 13:08:57 if you're on hold for more than 10 / 20 mins they should take your number and get back to you May 11 13:09:06 that's what i get for using SIP over WiFi instead of over GPRS May 11 13:11:52 timeless_mbp, surely you can file an internal complaint? May 11 13:22:35 Termana: i've not had much luck doing that May 11 13:22:40 ime, being a customer is still easier May 11 13:22:54 other than taking a baseball bat to nokia house, there's very little i can do May 11 13:23:18 and i'm told that bringing the baseball bat is bad for my employment contract May 11 13:23:25 lol :P May 11 13:23:53 timeless_mbp, I just thought it might be easier being an employee to get the message through to people that need to know May 11 13:24:29 i'm glad i was able to clear up your confusion :) May 11 13:25:27 Stskeeps: nice email from harri May 11 13:25:51 :nod: May 11 13:25:56 let's see if we can walk the talk May 11 13:26:28 walking and talking at the same time? May 11 13:26:32 that sounds rather complicated May 11 13:26:58 shouldn't you slow down and just talk the sound bites? May 11 13:31:33 Stskeeps: it's a process and the ball is rolling in the right direction at the moment May 11 13:31:36 that makes me happy May 11 13:31:59 I'd like to see Intel voice a similar commitment to the guidelines you've set forth May 11 13:44:39 of course it's going to look odd when there's no activity because we all went home for the day ;) May 11 13:45:44 Own fault. Pick a better time ;) May 11 13:52:30 How does btrfs run on the n900 ? May 11 13:52:40 as in, does it perform well May 11 13:53:08 not sure, we just moved to mmc so we're at ext2/3 atm May 11 13:59:03 :o May 11 13:59:13 * CosmoHill has seen some bad html on his friends shop May 11 13:59:31 DawnFoster: will we be seeing Intel announcements along the lines of Harri's mail to the list today ? May 11 14:01:30 is this a mail to -dev? May 11 14:01:57 lbt, yes theres a mail about the MeeGo n900 team on -dev May 11 14:02:26 hmm 08:21 CDT according to archive May 11 14:08:43 The email from Quim took 2:05mins to arrive... the mail from harri is ~48mins so far. The -dev mailing list does seem somewhat sporadic May 11 14:09:17 what mail from quim? May 11 14:10:41 http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-May/002127.html May 11 14:10:56 that was my last mail from the list May 11 14:11:41 http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-May/002131.html is harri's May 11 14:11:58 yes, just read it :) May 11 14:12:22 surely that's an issue at your end lbt ? May 11 14:12:31 I got the emails promptly May 11 14:12:40 no, sometimes they get held up at intel for 45 mins May 11 14:12:58 I'll post the headers when it arrives May 11 14:13:41 I'd like to have replied to arjan in a timely manner May 11 14:13:52 son of a bitch! I got 34 erros becaused I missed two tags May 11 14:14:28 since I installed btrfs on the joggler and a 1Gb filesystem has 271Mb of metadata reserved.... May 11 14:14:50 lbt: i'm not seeing any delay (using gmail) May 11 14:14:53 and if I have lots of media on there then no amount of compression will help May 11 14:15:15 lbt, I'm looking at the headers for quim's email at it only took about 50 seconds to get to me May 11 14:16:03 also, compressed files will load faster on slower systems, but not all files will compress May 11 14:16:28 hi slaine May 11 14:16:30 so bootup etc. would improve, but loading your image gallery wouldn't May 11 14:16:34 dneary: howdy May 11 14:16:58 slaine, From what I've read, butter fs is prtycool May 11 14:17:27 from a feature list it is May 11 14:17:41 dneary: try installing it :) May 11 14:17:50 from an implementation standpoint, I'm led to believe that it's the work of the devil May 11 14:17:54 meh May 11 14:17:54 ZFS May 11 14:17:55 :P May 11 14:17:58 it's pretty rough ATM May 11 14:17:58 * Stskeeps chants May 11 14:18:29 on my joggler it ran out of room on a 1Gb fs after ~600Mb useage May 11 14:18:38 dneary: padraig's just added support to coreutils for cp --reflink, in order to take advantage of COW May 11 14:18:47 there's a bug in 2.6.33 that dual-counts metadata usage iirc May 11 14:19:10 but in any case ~2-300Mb metadata was "about right" according to #btrfs people May 11 14:19:15 CosmoHill: i read that as "I got 34 euros because I missed two tags" May 11 14:19:24 that would be cool May 11 14:19:47 espeically since I started with 36 mission take May 11 14:19:51 tags* May 11 14:19:56 slaine, Did I mention that I'll be in Ireland next month? May 11 14:19:59 which I think is a bit of an issue on a smaller device... I dunno how that scales ... static or by % of filesystem May 11 14:20:15 slaine, We're putting the kids into school in Mayo, moving back for 6 weeks May 11 14:20:35 It'd be cool to arrange a couple of days meetings in Dublin & chew the fat May 11 14:20:41 CosmoHill: can you try to cut down on the number of typos you make? :) May 11 14:20:50 i could May 11 14:21:06 I cheated and copied a load off my friend's site May 11 14:21:11 then had to correct it all May 11 14:23:47 dneary: not directly, but I do recall you discussing schools in mayo on ilug's irc server one evening May 11 14:24:12 timeless_mbp: were you talking about my website or are you finding it hard to read what I say when I type? May 11 14:24:39 I'd love meet up for a pint and chat. Think the last time we meet face to face was eons ago in either tonners or o'donoughes May 11 14:24:39 the latter May 11 14:25:42 ah okay May 11 16:14:10 DawnFoster, Thanks for wiki admin! May 11 16:14:26 dneary: no problem :) May 11 16:14:30 thanks for all your help! May 11 16:14:39 hey May 11 16:15:19 hey cosmohill May 11 16:15:59 Stormy weather here... May 11 16:15:59 you know, I should buy a uni jumper May 11 16:22:32 http://shop.angliastudent.com/index.php?cat=Unisex May 11 16:32:13 DawnFoster: will we be seeing Intel announcements along the lines of Harri's mail to the list today ? May 11 16:32:48 slaine: Intel has already been actively doing a lot of our development on the list May 11 16:33:03 we'll have the UX's out in May as planned May 11 16:33:32 Dawn: With the basic end user apps, I presume? May 11 16:33:55 clarification: netbook UX in May May 11 16:34:08 not sure when handset UX is coming out May 11 16:34:31 Ah, that is somehow less interesting... May 11 16:34:31 RST38h: it's easy on the netbook side - lots of apps are already available May 11 16:34:49 Yea, but there is also way less interest, with other solutions available for netbooks May 11 16:35:03 Well, I for one am very interested May 11 16:35:26 and I'm sure all the former moblin people will be too May 11 16:35:40 more details in the last tsg about releases: http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-05-05-18.58.html May 11 16:39:47 dne May 11 16:39:57 dneary, what, you got wiki admin? May 11 16:40:00 * GAN900 pouts May 11 16:41:31 GAN900, Yup May 11 16:41:53 GAN900: lots of edits to the wiki and work on the wiki guidelines :) May 11 16:42:10 Right now, ordinary users can do almost everything May 11 16:42:25 this really only gives him the ability to move pages around May 11 16:42:39 By the way, anyone know why we didn't get & secure the meego.org domain in preference to meego.com? May 11 16:42:55 I'd like to see about adding more of the vetted maemo.org to the access. May 11 16:42:58 I think we tried and failed to get meego.org May 11 16:42:59 DawnFoster, Move *and* delete May 11 16:43:06 DawnFoster, And spawn SysOps ;) May 11 16:43:14 dneary, $$$ I heard May 11 16:43:16 :) May 11 16:43:33 maemo.org *people* May 11 16:44:21 GAN900: It looks like you've only made 4 edits to the meego.com wiki - did I miss something? http://wiki.meego.com/Special:Contributions/Generalantilles May 11 16:44:47 DawnFoster, well, check my maemo.org history May 11 16:45:06 There's not much to contribute to on the meego.com wiki at the moment May 11 16:45:07 ah, but you need to earn it on MeeGo, too maemo != meego May 11 16:45:12 Yeah May 11 16:45:24 you'll earn it faster based on your history with maemo May 11 16:45:27 Except that didn't quite pan out for moblin.org @intels, eh? ;) May 11 16:45:33 but it's not automatic May 11 16:45:33 GAN900, I'd be happy to recruit you as a wiki gardner May 11 16:45:47 meh, I wish the linuxfoundation folks would answer May 11 16:45:53 Not sure how we go about identifying wiki gardening that needs doing, actually May 11 16:46:02 Myrtti, You & me both May 11 16:46:20 what answer are you looking for from the linuxfoundation? May 11 16:46:23 ibrahim? May 11 16:46:30 on doc licensing? May 11 16:46:42 dneary, love to have a structure that doesn't mean we have to have months of cleanup work at the end of the year May 11 16:47:01 I'd like to know what, exactly, the LF is bringing to the table here May 11 16:47:03 Myrttinörtti :) May 11 16:47:13 DawnFoster: I sent a message to them last night asking if they'd be interested to host the MeeGo session videos I've been kicking about May 11 16:47:25 Right now it looks like absolutely nothing or a helluva lot of closed-door activity. May 11 16:47:37 and there's couple of other emails from last week I've not heard about... May 11 16:47:52 who did you send the messages to? May 11 16:48:25 I can help escalate the MeeGo session videos. May 11 16:48:41 I'd like to see those hosted, too May 11 16:48:55 GAN900: on the other hand, not many vendor shareholders would like 'their' company joining a project where they are basically in bed with the competition (if it was a open source project hosted by intel+nokia), hence it being under LF May 11 16:48:57 anyway, the video issue isn't too important yet as I've not finished with the videos, I have limited window of opportunity with a Mac with a video editor app every night May 11 16:49:10 only one done so far :-/ May 11 16:49:14 ie, that there is a chance that competition issues won't get in the way May 11 16:49:29 * Stskeeps has been happy to see the OBS guys from LF work on things May 11 16:49:32 GAN900, There are some easy entry points - Quim's reworking of the front page, for example May 11 16:49:51 And coming up with a way to avoid having half the pages be called "Proposal for..." May 11 16:50:00 Stskeeps, well and good for vendors, but what does it mean day-to-day for us. May 11 16:50:19 (that's one area the LF guys are really visible in) May 11 16:50:40 dneary, do we want to lift any of my templature from maemo.org? May 11 16:50:53 I wish mediawiki would include that out of the box May 11 16:51:00 GAN900, Some of it would be useful, I think May 11 16:51:05 "In progress" comes to mind May 11 16:51:19 (although that would be added to every page...) May 11 16:51:21 GAN900: even though i'm not happy about it, it is difficult to claim meego as something consumer-controlled, so it's more about seeing how it fits into the project as whole May 11 16:51:35 ahh. "in progress" reminds me, I still have to finish the course exercises for tomorrow May 11 16:52:10 my current exercises were too easy for this group. May 11 16:52:24 and previous group couldn't finish them in time :P May 11 16:53:55 meh. I wish human body were selfcleaning. Shower is such a chore May 11 16:54:10 :) May 11 16:54:18 hot shower is nice. May 11 16:54:25 waterproof n900 is needed May 11 16:55:30 Jartza: my enchantment with having a shower at this establishment diminished notably when I saw a cockroach for the first time in my life climbing on the wall of the bathroom last Thursday. May 11 16:55:37 La Cucaracha etc. May 11 16:55:46 * lcuk just said that this morning Stskeeps May 11 16:56:06 it would be cool to have waterproof by default devices May 11 16:57:54 Myrtti: ouch :/ I'm living in the countryside nowadays, but even we don't have those :P May 11 16:58:40 more humid + temperate climate of Silicon Valley... can't wait to get back to Europe on Sunday May 11 16:59:08 This place is so passÃ© for me, you know May 11 16:59:15 been there, done that. May 11 16:59:21 How long have you been there? May 11 17:00:08 Myrtti: :) May 11 17:00:17 I can't handle high humidity May 11 17:00:37 Myrtti: welcome back :) May 11 17:01:08 Zeikko: 56 days and 17 hours May 11 17:01:24 stuck there or just visiting? May 11 17:01:25 umm ok May 11 17:02:45 Stskeeps: boyfriend participating in a work project by his employee (Nokia-Siemens Networks) and we kinda thought it would be nice if I'd go as well. Had I known what the conditions would be like, I might have declined the opportunity May 11 17:03:05 but hindsight is always 20:20 May 11 17:03:30 I'm losing my mind by selecting courses for my exchange term :S May 11 17:04:46 right. I guess I need to brace myself and go have that shower May 11 17:04:58 lo t-tan May 11 17:05:22 Stskeeps: morning May 11 17:06:32 hindsight is an exact science. May 11 17:13:26 GAN900, You know, MediaWiki *could* include some templates by default... it would suffice to submit a patch :) May 11 17:23:07 is there a package in yum repos to get the current meego ui? May 11 17:24:04 gastal: what curremt meego ui ? May 11 17:27:05 slaine: ok, then I guess maybe I should ask is there a ui under development for meego? is it being developed openly? May 11 17:27:31 yes and no, in that order May 11 17:28:30 gastal: UIs are coming soon, starting with the netbook UI later this month. More details about upcoming releases from the most recent TSG meeting: http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-05-05-18.58.html May 11 17:29:13 am I stupid or something, but were me and GAN900 the only people on the bloody conference that uploaded and tagged their LinuxCollab pictures to Flickr? unbelievable May 11 17:29:58 DawnFoster: thank you! reading... May 11 17:33:20 * slaine wonders why his question isn't on the summary May 11 17:34:21 slaine: the minutes are generated by the MeetBot & only the items tagged with #info get added to the minutes. May 11 17:34:34 Ah, thanks Dawn May 11 17:34:45 Quim & I were trying to keep up with it, but we must have missed one :( May 11 17:34:57 sorry about that May 11 17:35:11 DawnFoster: any update on the meego summit ? May 11 17:35:28 the MeeGo Conference, you mean? :) May 11 17:35:31 I've heard a rumor you're coming to visit me ;) May 11 17:35:43 We're still trying to finalize the venue May 11 17:35:50 have you been inside Aviva? May 11 17:36:02 is Aviva even open to anything yet? May 11 17:36:04 we have some questions about whether it can really hold 600 people May 11 17:36:17 in the room where we want to do keynotes May 11 17:36:31 It's not open yet, I've not been there as a result May 11 17:36:37 we need to confirm this before we sign the contract with them May 11 17:36:39 It's due to be open any time now though May 11 17:37:10 if you can talk them into letting me in I'd be quite happy to go down there and take photos for you ;-) May 11 17:38:31 Myrtti, lol May 11 17:38:40 Myrtti, first time in your LIFE? May 11 17:38:54 bfree, go to the match and see :) May 11 17:39:26 GAN900: yup May 11 17:39:53 Go figure May 11 17:40:03 * GAN900 grew up in Florida May 11 17:40:48 slaine: first match appears to be August 7th .. Leinster/Ulster Vs Munster/Connacht May 11 17:44:00 bfree: thought there was a match in a few days, seems it's the offical opening May 11 17:46:03 slaine: yep, seems to be "official opening" alright ... whatever that will be May 11 17:46:14 DawnFoster: their website is pretty rubbish. May 11 17:47:01 personally I had been hoping they would start with an Ireland Vs Argentina double header, Rugby and Soccer ;-) May 11 17:47:50 bfree: I was hoping we'd get to see a match with the hunky dory's team May 11 17:47:57 the combined provinces game will be pretty rubbish with nothin on the line (though I might still have to try and go, I was at the "Last Stand" when Dr Phil did it for Leinster) May 11 17:48:38 slaine: hehe, I think that might be one to watch on tv though so you get up close ;-) May 11 17:49:05 would be good for those 3D tv sports bars May 11 17:49:18 rofl May 11 17:51:13 slaine: if the ball comes at the camera everyone would dive for cover May 11 17:52:22 slaine: they could follow it up with a game played Donnacha O'Callaghan style (the red undies), for some balance ;-) May 11 17:52:54 bfree, lol May 11 17:53:13 CosmoHill: I think they'd be too busy drooling May 11 17:59:23 I see Microsoft have been sipping from the Moblin/MeeGo cup May 11 17:59:24 http://www.winsupersite.com/mobile/wp7_rc_shots.asp May 11 17:59:34 I swear that when my laptop is asleep for so long, it will wake up in my bag and then go into hibernate May 11 17:59:56 CosmoHill: it'll do that when it's battery is almost low May 11 18:00:13 s/almost/very/ May 11 18:00:14 slaine meant: CosmoHill: it'll do that when it's battery is very low May 11 18:00:14 ot has 80% May 11 18:00:18 slaine, that looks more like liqbase than meego lol May 11 18:00:27 very minimalistic May 11 18:00:27 s/ot/it May 11 18:00:35 slaine: i must admit they're taking the dos prompt to it's fullest May 11 18:00:45 Games Collection: zero May 11 18:00:49 it reminds me of a good ncurses ui May 11 18:01:15 * javispedro watches people drooling over a ncurses ui May 11 18:01:23 they've taken it too far imo May 11 18:02:00 slaine: on the other hand, it is a bit of a antishine concept May 11 18:02:36 i bet it runs quick May 11 18:02:45 indeed May 11 18:02:51 I like the mono icons idea, but that seems like they're just trying to now use the gpu for anything May 11 18:02:52 nice and simple ftw May 11 18:02:56 lcuk: snap May 11 18:03:09 slaine, i liked it so much i made a hwole ui out of it :po May 11 18:03:15 hehe May 11 18:04:13 https://www.jyu.fi/it/yhteistyo/yritysyhteistyo/profit-projekti/koulutustiedotelinuxmaemo May 11 18:04:16 ouch May 11 18:04:21 sorry, wrong channel May 11 18:04:49 ah, a maemo course May 11 18:06:11 I swear my dad just said there's a signed England shirt in the company's valut May 11 18:07:02 i think windows mobile with the HTC interface is quite good May 11 18:10:20 Stskeeps: yes, actually sixth course already. May 11 18:11:22 we were planning for 3 courses, but there were so many enrollments that we had to increase the number of courses to 6. May 11 18:12:01 well, there is money in knowing mobile linu May 11 18:12:02 x May 11 18:12:05 Jartza: what format is that file? May 11 18:12:13 pdf or .doc or something else? May 11 18:12:22 .pdf May 11 18:12:24 pd May 11 18:12:25 pdf May 11 18:12:37 thanks May 11 18:12:38 but I'm not sure if that's any use for you anyway :D May 11 18:12:52 as I was supposed to paste it to another channel May 11 18:12:59 * CosmoHill pretends he can read it May 11 18:13:03 :D May 11 18:13:20 thought so May 11 18:13:41 I need to figure out what todo for my dissertation May 11 18:14:52 dear god, give me patience and resiliance May 11 18:15:14 that's what CosmoHill needs for his disseration, too May 11 18:15:29 Myrtti: yes my child May 11 18:15:30 Myrtti: Herding cats? May 11 18:16:39 Myrtti - I'm having one of those days, too if it makes you feel any better :) May 11 18:17:25 * Stskeeps passes DawnFoster and Myrtti a good cup of tea May 11 18:17:55 stskeeps - I always appreciate a good cup of tea :) May 11 18:18:06 can PizzaHut breadsticks be counted as healthy breakfast? May 11 18:18:19 drinking gunpowder green right now (working at home where I have good tea) :) May 11 18:18:31 Right, I'm off home May 11 18:18:36 I might be around later May 11 18:18:39 enjoy the commute May 11 18:18:44 Always May 11 18:18:48 * slaine sobs May 11 19:12:52 hmm May 11 19:13:01 VMware ESXi 4 is free May 11 19:18:18 esxi has always been free? May 11 19:19:19 no idea May 11 19:19:32 I'm wondering if I can get a cert in it May 11 19:33:39 I need five more web pages for my assignment May 11 19:34:01 * CosmoHill pokes lbt May 11 19:49:28 David Cameron is the UK's new prime minister May 11 19:52:06 congrats May 11 19:53:59 i try to build meego image with mic but it is complaining that isohybrid does not found. where i can get it? May 11 19:58:41 anyone care to quickly help me, I have 18 pages and I need 20 May 11 19:58:52 http://black-flag.co.uk/files/website-pages.png The blue ones are what I have and the black ones are what I am going todo May 11 19:59:08 CosmoHill: you are aware that if anyone finds these logs, you might be expelled from un-academic conduct? :P May 11 20:00:11 ssh you May 11 20:00:47 CLabel: can you not install it via apt-get or yum? May 11 20:01:37 CLabel: i think it's todo with ISOLINUX >> http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Doc/isolinux May 11 20:03:18 Stskeeps: I ask a tiny bit of what becomes the end result :) May 11 20:05:38 CosmoHill: i kind of fix it. i different version of syslinux but it is now complaining of Core May 11 20:06:08 "Error: failed to create image : Failed to find group 'Core' : No Group named Core exists" May 11 20:06:37 ^*i installed different May 11 20:09:01 ideas? May 11 20:11:01 it believe that it is defined in kickstart file under %packages May 11 20:11:22 it's called meego core now May 11 20:11:40 @MeegoCore ? May 11 20:12:26 @meego-core maybe May 11 20:12:51 thanks for the help, i try to update my kickstart. May 11 20:15:46 Base seems to be renamed too. after tweaking that, it is actually doing something May 11 20:27:59 just a potential developer type of a question: will meego be available on n900? May 11 20:30:50 http://maemoarena.com/2010/03/meego-now-available-for-download-for-nokia-n900/ May 11 20:31:15 CLabel: thanks :) May 11 21:08:36 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/11/nokia_meego_symbian_reorg/ May 11 21:09:24 sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself May 11 21:50:34 Hi, meego will use btrfs as root filesystem? May 11 21:50:49 fqh, depends on where it's being used May 11 21:51:02 Nokia MeeGo devices will be using UBIFS for the foreseeable future. May 11 21:52:04 ok May 11 22:01:19 * thiago_home had never heard of btrfs until today May 11 22:01:45 hey thiago_home May 11 22:01:49 DawnFoster: since you're accustomed organizer of different events, please tell me you've had printed out signs telling people with what tags to tweet and tag flickr photos at your events? May 11 22:01:51 * CosmoHill grrs at hsi website May 11 22:02:02 my page is fine apart from one page where the copyright is off centre May 11 22:03:10 myrtti: We always include the hashtags as part of the event prep & promote / use the tags well in advance of the event to capture the stuff leading up to the event as well as the event itself. May 11 22:04:16 DawnFoster: oh good. I'm just so annoyed at looking through flickr and finding absolutely no pictures I could use May 11 22:04:22 For example, I'm currently organizing #ip9 and we encourage people to tag things #ip9 on twitter and 'igniteportland' for things like photos / videos May 11 22:04:23 (for blogging) May 11 22:04:45 speaking of which, we need tags for the meego conference May 11 22:04:46 :) May 11 22:04:59 meegocon2010 May 11 22:05:13 can I go get a cookie now? May 11 22:05:27 hilarious I had just meegocon2010 :) May 11 22:05:46 was trying to decide if it was too long for twitter, and yes you deserve a cookie :) May 11 22:05:54 oh great, now I want a cookie May 11 22:06:04 lol, the irony May 11 22:06:48 on unrelated note, can I go and set up explosive devices at the office of Audible? May 11 22:07:30 bugger. May 11 22:07:54 you sound english Myrtti May 11 22:08:51 why thank you, I work on my appearances every day May 11 22:09:14 I've added the tag info to the meego conference wiki page :) May 11 22:15:03 thiago_home: I dunno why my question is being ignored... I'd have thought a 20-30% metadata overhead was a bit of an issue for a filesystem... May 11 22:16:12 seems people don't care that ext3 reserves 5% May 11 22:16:57 30%? wow that's insane May 11 22:17:30 I agree May 11 22:17:57 I can see 30% when a snapshot is in effect or something May 11 22:18:07 although that wouldn't strictly be "metadata" May 11 22:18:27 I simply setup a meego rootfs on an atom device (Joggler) May 11 22:18:41 it filled up a 1Gb mmc with 600Mb data May 11 22:19:00 I'd usually say you did something wrong May 11 22:19:05 because those numbers are far too high May 11 22:19:13 there was a bug (I was using some old 2.6.33 kernel) May 11 22:19:19 but since you did talk to some people about it and they confirm it's correct... May 11 22:19:23 so I went into #btrfs and they said "yup" May 11 22:19:24 GAN900: your idea is fine and nice, but does -meeting2 have the bot too? May 11 22:23:28