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May 15 03:02:56 <breezescut> http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=168
May 15 10:56:14 <chronim> "Widelands uses sound in OGG format, and Maemo SDL_Mixer is compiled without OGG support.
May 15 10:59:00 <Stskeeps> right
May 15 11:13:57 <chronim> exit
May 15 11:18:05 <lbt> it's kinda interesting http://www.google.com/search?q=python+rpmutils+documentation    http://www.google.com/search?q=python+apt+documentation
May 15 11:20:44 <lbt> I'd be quite grateful if someone could point me at a python library to handle rpm files
May 15 11:25:19 <DocScrutinizer> lbt: wouldn't os.system("path/to/rpm -option foo") just do?
May 15 11:25:58 <lbt> well, yes...
May 15 11:26:27 <lbt> but I want to process all the files in a release on a regular basis in a reasonable time
May 15 11:27:13 <lbt> although, frankly, the way rpm lacks any decent policy on naming etc makes it stunningly hard
May 15 11:28:18 <glinpus> python-rpm is what yum, smart use
May 15 11:28:47 <lbt> glinpus: ta... any docs?
May 15 11:29:18 <glinpus> http://rpm.org/wiki/Docs#RPMLanguageBindingsDocumentation
May 15 11:29:37 <lbt> <giggle> I meant useable ones...
May 15 11:29:44 <glinpus> :)
May 15 11:29:49 <lbt> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ch-rpm-programming-python.html
May 15 11:30:24 <lbt> http://apt.alioth.debian.org/python-apt-doc/library/apt_pkg.html
May 15 11:31:19 <lbt> the more I work with rpm the more I like deb... and it has nothing to do with technical ability and everything to do with quality, policy and docs
May 15 11:32:15 <lbt> so far I've spent about 30 mins just looking for some docs.
May 15 11:36:38 <glinpus> it doesn't help that rpm has splintered
May 15 11:42:06 <lbt> and here's some python sample code http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ch16s04.html
May 15 11:42:23 <lbt> note the slight problem given python's indentation requirements... :)
May 15 11:43:35 <lbt> "Furthermore, if you look into the .c files that make up the Python bindings, you can find PyMethodDef structure tables. These tables provide useful glimpses into the Python API."
May 15 11:44:08 <lbt> ie "Read the raw C code for vague hints"... and that's in the official docs.
May 15 11:44:31 <lbt> sod it ... I've got better things to do with my time
May 15 14:07:18 <fadiodeh> hi all
May 15 15:12:15 <marcotouch> !list
May 15 15:12:24 <marcotouch> @find roobin hood
May 15 17:02:40 <th0br0> Long live Zathras! Oh and hello :)
May 15 17:07:14 * thiago_home is in SG-1 mode now
May 15 17:17:18 <th0br0> :P thiago_home I personally dislike most of the SG-1 seasons. they are kind of boring and repeating.
May 15 17:18:59 <CosmoHill> hey th0br0 and thiago_home
May 15 17:19:08 <th0br0> heya CosmoHill
May 15 17:19:12 <th0br0> How are your assignments faring?
May 15 17:19:28 <CosmoHill> I handed in web design yesterday
May 15 17:19:30 <CosmoHill> thanks for asking
May 15 17:19:50 <CosmoHill> I quickly made a animated image in photoshop an hour before i handed it in
May 15 17:20:01 <CosmoHill> which is hard cos I don't have photoshop :/
May 15 17:24:20 <CosmoHill> I'll let you guys know about the results if you want them when i get them
May 15 17:25:36 * lbt abandonded meego today... rpm ... ugh
May 15 17:25:55 <lbt> good news is that I got maemo-extras building on the OBS :)
May 15 17:26:03 <lbt> which paves the way for a maemo.org obs
May 15 17:26:20 <lbt> which in turn may encourage a meego obs
May 15 17:26:59 <CosmoHill> yay
May 15 17:27:04 <TSCHAK2> yay
May 15 17:27:11 <TSCHAK2> and my moblin netbook just ate itself
May 15 17:27:14 <TSCHAK2> shit
May 15 20:30:11 <CosmoHill> Stskeeps: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/lfs/logs1.html
May 15 20:54:55 <Natty2K10> hi all
May 15 20:55:31 <Natty2K10> whats up??
May 15 20:55:39 <CosmoHill> ceiling cat
May 15 20:56:11 <Natty2K10> hmmmmmmmm
May 15 20:56:26 <CosmoHill> no he's not watching me do that
May 15 20:57:54 <Natty2K10> did anyone tried mqstardict???
May 15 21:27:31 <bartekxyz> Any ETA for functional meego version?
May 15 21:35:11 <CosmoHill> up to 15 days?
May 15 21:37:43 <bartekxyz> Because they said it's going to be may?
May 15 21:38:04 <CosmoHill> yes
May 15 21:40:41 <bartekxyz> Positive thinking,eh?
May 15 21:40:54 <CosmoHill> I'm indifferent about it ^.^
May 15 21:43:24 <bartekxyz> Can't wait to get my dirty hands on it
May 15 21:44:30 <lcukn900> wash them first.
May 15 21:44:54 <bartekxyz> That's othert sort of dirt
May 15 21:45:02 <bartekxyz> Other*
May 15 21:53:34 * CosmoHill is weirded out by this kid
May 15 21:53:55 <CosmoHill> he's 11 and has 4 computers
May 15 21:54:21 <CosmoHill> when I was 11 I had just gotten a PC and I didn't use it all that much apart from school work
May 15 21:55:40 <Stskeeps> he probably has a uncle giving him old hw
May 15 21:55:59 <CosmoHill> [22:47]  <Cosmo> how many computers do you have?
May 15 21:55:59 <CosmoHill> [22:48]  <rabbit> 4
May 15 21:55:59 <CosmoHill> [22:48]  <rabbit> macmini , dell precision 690 (currenty rented) , self built computer , and my  macbook
May 15 21:56:14 <CosmoHill> it's a mac mini server edition so that's pretty new
May 15 21:56:21 <bartekxyz> When i was 11,i had amiga 500
May 15 21:57:09 <Stskeeps> when i was 11, i had a 80186 with 1mb ram and 20mb hd
May 15 21:57:11 <Stskeeps> was in heaven
May 15 21:57:12 <Stskeeps> :P
May 15 22:01:38 <range> When I was 11, we had to count from 0 to 1 for ourselves.
May 15 22:01:48 <range> when I was 14 I had an Apple II, though :)
May 15 22:02:43 <CosmoHill> i duno if it's just me being an old guy or just not used to the tech
May 15 22:03:00 <CosmoHill> cos he was a lot younger than me when the tech came out
May 15 22:10:27 * TSCHAKeee laughs
May 15 22:10:37 <TSCHAKeee> CosmoHill, you can not play the old guy
May 15 22:10:42 <CosmoHill> I know
May 15 22:10:48 <TSCHAKeee> CosmoHill, there is always someone older
May 15 22:10:49 <TSCHAKeee> :P :)
May 15 22:10:50 <CosmoHill> I barely in my 20s >.>
May 15 22:30:57 <thomas_> garrr
May 15 22:31:03 <thomas_> oh well,
May 15 22:31:21 * thomas_ built an image from the daily snapshot, and it never makes it to X :/ crapola
May 15 22:34:07 <thomas_> nm
May 15 22:34:17 * TSCHAKeee tries a different ks
May 15 22:35:36 * CosmoHill rolls eyes
May 15 22:35:45 <CosmoHill> the kid has gotten his mum's iphone
May 15 22:35:48 <CosmoHill> he's so easily impressed
May 15 22:45:42 <bella_calda_18> those who exchange pictures? I want ... Here you can download my photos then let me know http://www.wikiupload.com/p4trNG1i
May 15 22:46:03 <thomas_> sigh
May 15 22:46:13 <thomas_> freenode is being assaulted by spam
May 15 22:47:26 <CosmoHill> is this channel listed?
May 15 23:08:33 <Jartza> http://vimeo.com/7142739
May 15 23:14:15 <TSCHAKeee> is there no @Meego Developer Desktop group?
May 15 23:14:39 <CosmoHill> a desktop? what's that?
May 15 23:20:33 <TSCHAKeee> :P
May 15 23:22:01 <CosmoHill> I only have linux on my server and that doesn't even have a graphics card....
May 15 23:22:13 <CosmoHill> son of a bitch, my lecturer has my serial cable
May 15 23:24:22 <TSCHAKeee> shame on you
May 15 23:24:51 <TSCHAKeee> i should send a wumpus after you :P
May 15 23:25:00 <CosmoHill> you can tell I'm a great student, I have a usb to serial adapter ^.^
May 15 23:25:15 <TSCHAKeee> :P
May 15 23:25:54 <TSCHAKeee> damn it
May 15 23:25:58 <TSCHAKeee> is there a .ks file
May 15 23:26:07 <CosmoHill> I've seen one somewhere
May 15 23:26:07 <TSCHAKeee> that can be paired against the daily builds?
May 15 23:27:01 <TSCHAKeee> the .ks files in daily/ point to package group names and repositories that are no longer apt
May 15 23:29:05 <TSCHAKeee> okay
May 15 23:29:14 <TSCHAKeee> i'm going to do a new one against an 0.9 build
May 15 23:40:23 <TSCHAKeee> okay, think i've cobbled enough of one together
May 15 23:41:29 <TSCHAKeee> bend to my will, damn it!
May 15 23:41:39 <TSCHAKeee> :)
May 15 23:43:49 <b-man> call me crazy, but i'm running the meego-image creator on my N900 via a booted version of fedora12 xD
May 15 23:51:32 * TSCHAKeee resigns to wait.. not all the packages are there yet
May 15 23:56:49 <TSCHAKeee> ugh
May 16 00:58:53 <Termana> good morning
May 16 02:20:19 <Termana> Is it just me that thinks its a bad idea the wiki is case sensitive?
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