**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 27 02:59:57 2010 May 27 03:12:14 hey, can anybody help me out with a quick terminal question? May 27 03:15:30 i've got an eeepc 901, the one with two ssds May 27 03:16:00 dev/sdb won't mount, because of some permissions issue May 27 03:16:28 can someone please give me the proper syntax to change the permissions via cli? May 27 03:16:44 as in sudo chown something or other? May 27 03:37:06 hi May 27 03:37:28 I'm trying to put MeeGo 1.0 on my ancient EeePC 2G May 27 03:38:01 but it wouldn't install, telling me that MeeGo requires 3GB to install May 27 03:38:16 can I somehow circumvent this error and install anyway? May 27 03:46:36 ? May 27 03:46:44 nobody home? May 27 03:50:52 *sigh* May 27 04:28:27 is there a guide anywhere for building MeeGo from the ground up? May 27 04:32:24 i am trying to install meego 1.0 on my acer aspire one, it install, but when finish and restart, it crash, just black screen, not keyboard, anything, i have a AAO 15' May 27 04:32:31 AAO 150 May 27 05:06:40 any experiences with AAO 150? May 27 05:08:48 not I May 27 05:08:58 I'm using an AAO ZG5 (8.9") May 27 05:46:44 * tekojo reboots to test MeeGo 1.0 May 27 05:51:38 hi everyone May 27 05:52:53 i'm here to discover the channel, just to know what is discussed May 27 05:53:03 not a lot of time :p May 27 05:53:36 any technical discussions on going ? May 27 05:54:25 sometimes, not very often May 27 05:54:45 ok thanks for your answer May 27 05:54:49 depending on your topic, there might be more technical channels May 27 05:55:32 ok it was my aim: e. g. to see what is discussed here, so more questions than answers i guess :/ May 27 05:55:59 for example ARM team work doesn't go on in here, or n900 team work May 27 05:56:03 we have our own channel for that May 27 05:56:46 ok i understand, but as i'm a newbie on irc, i will try to find myself the suitable channel May 27 05:57:25 don't want just to talk for nothing :p (what i'm doing in fact sorry ;) May 27 05:58:39 i so hope meego doesn't have updates that suddenly require new packages May 27 06:00:01 thanks Surfa, Stskeeps and all have a nice start/beginning of days, cheers ;) May 27 06:34:01 hi all May 27 06:34:06 morning May 27 06:38:56 Hi all, got a quick question May 27 06:39:15 concerning the SDK May 27 06:40:07 What kind of an address is this: http://sdk.download.location/meego-sdk-0524.tar.gz May 27 06:41:09 they're working on SDK still May 27 06:43:01 Weren't they supposed to release it some time this month? May 27 06:43:04 Like this week? May 27 06:43:25 well, 1.0 and netbook UX was promised May 27 06:43:44 I see May 27 06:43:57 Thanks May 27 06:52:51 UX or UI May 27 06:53:20 and what does UX mean? sorry for my stupid question May 27 07:03:24 Any body has any idea how one can go about using harmattan UI framework? I have compiled and installed libdui and duitheme in my ubuntu system. I created a hello world program that creates a window and should show some text. A window is created but no text and a lot of error messages on the console. Do I need to include any more Harmattan UI components for this to work? May 27 07:03:44 see if you can get widgets gallery working, i gues May 27 07:03:44 s May 27 07:03:56 It doesnt work May 27 07:15:09 is pidgin the only IRC client available with meego (once installed)? May 27 07:15:28 irssi May 27 07:19:59 pupnik: thanks May 27 07:21:45 the current meego interface is very moblin/gnomeish orientated, when will it be worth while developing for a Qt/Quick kind of interface (if any is coming) ? May 27 07:26:08 play with the qt apps on n900 and symbian3 May 27 07:29:56 hello... someone knows where is the repo for mutter-moblin package and other moblin related stuff? May 27 07:30:41 markc: you virtualizing meego or you got it directly on hardware? May 27 07:31:12 running on a core duo laptop, hardware May 27 07:33:49 for those interested in MeeGo on N810, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=681902&postcount=84 May 27 07:34:00 TenPhil: I don't have a 32bit ubuntu install so I was thinking of trying to get OBS working within meego, is it worth my effort to try do you think? May 27 07:38:01 ty Stskeeps May 27 07:38:24 many n810s can be put to good work May 27 07:38:53 they make great qt development devices May 27 07:48:23 morning slaine May 27 07:48:31 morning Stskeeps May 27 07:48:35 morning all May 27 07:48:40 Stskeeps: how about N800? May 27 07:48:51 my N800 is a decoration piece on my desk right now :-) May 27 07:49:24 thiago: we haven't tested the kernel on n800 yet, but maybe. May 27 07:49:45 right now we're focusing on n810 as it's easier when it comes to for example sound.. May 27 07:50:44 does the n800 have the same cpu as the n810 ? May 27 07:53:20 hi May 27 07:53:54 slaine: yes May 27 07:56:00 Can I run the new release of meego in virtualbox to try it ? May 27 07:59:47 Nadley: the netbook UI needs 3D support, maybe Virtualbox 3.2 will work May 27 08:00:26 markc: thanks I'l check and try it May 27 08:02:45 good morning. I was just wondering if the images on http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/images/meego-n900-open-armv7l/ have full support for the n900 and if they have an interface. Did anyone try them yet? May 27 08:03:33 it lacks some closed source binaries (we are working on that release this minute, ran into a last minute blocker). it comes with x-terminal. open image mostly serves as an example people can use to implement other device ports May 27 08:03:49 handset UX is supposed to come out at some point after 1.0 release. May 27 08:04:40 oh, but that means that n900 devices ARE still supported by the MeeGo project, not as a million webblogs say (on behalf on nokia officials) May 27 08:05:35 biston: yes, but meego isn't nokia, so that's the difference May 27 08:05:48 meego's a open source project with nokia and intel and others as backers and participants May 27 08:05:54 alright, thanks a lot for the info May 27 08:05:57 it's officially a linux foundation project May 27 08:06:02 the word 'support' is horrid May 27 08:06:03 uha May 27 08:07:29 it is inappropriate here May 27 08:07:45 there is no n900 meego support May 27 08:07:53 should meego get a stackoverflow instance i wonder May 27 08:14:28 iirc there was some talk over there about petitioning ideas for new instances... i dunno, just thinking out loud about support May 27 08:15:28 morning smoku May 27 08:18:55 Hi all ! May 27 08:25:19 'lo Stskeeps May 27 08:27:38 any idea where the flickr integration went? May 27 08:28:15 i see it in libsocialweb code but not in the ui anywhere May 27 08:31:40 zaheerm, there it is May 27 08:31:47 settings->sharing May 27 08:31:58 oops, wrong channel :) May 27 08:32:08 Surfa, ? May 27 08:32:13 lol May 27 08:32:20 i meant in meego 1.0 ;) May 27 08:32:28 yep May 27 08:32:34 i thought I was on #maemo :) May 27 08:32:45 so never mind.. May 27 08:32:57 the flickr integration at least for content production is decent on maemo :) May 27 08:33:20 we could do with photos app in maemo also being able to browse your flickr stuff and organise it May 27 08:37:30 or dcc a photo to contacts May 27 08:37:47 contacts -> irc interface May 27 08:42:58 zaheerm: re: flickr - that's a licence issue May 27 08:43:14 we can't distribute the keys etc. May 27 08:43:31 however I'm sure an enterprising hacker could take the code in our git and package it May 27 08:44:40 nedrichards, there is no images tab in the top meego toolbar May 27 08:44:51 zaheerm: no flickr panel? May 27 08:44:56 there's never been one May 27 08:45:06 however, there is an API to write your own panels now May 27 08:45:17 and a UI for users to add and remove them May 27 08:45:19 where should pictures and photos go then? May 27 08:45:23 to get the image files on a usb stick from windows, I guess the moblin instructions do apply? http://moblin.org/documentation/test-drive-moblin/using-moblin-live-image May 27 08:46:09 nedrichards, please could you point me to the api May 27 08:46:11 zaheerm: they used to go into the media panel, but we moved away from hornsey so it's partly a regression May 27 08:46:51 nedrichards, aaah, is media panel just banshee or a custom ui that could have photos and accessing banshee's backend? May 27 08:47:01 zaheerm: correct May 27 08:47:14 it's a custom ui on top of the banshee platform May 27 08:47:21 just like the media app is a custom ui for banshee as well May 27 08:47:32 we plan to help the banshee hackers add photo support in future May 27 08:47:38 so the same custom ui could use f-spot or other backend? May 27 08:47:59 zaheerm: sure, although i'd prefer to see a dedicated panel myself I think May 27 08:48:01 not sure f-spot has a backend/frotnend split May 27 08:48:30 nedrichards, yah probably, although photos and videos could go together just as much as music and videos... May 27 08:48:33 zaheerm: just spoken to tf and he's working on the friendly api docs for mutter right now May 27 08:48:40 zaheerm: sure May 27 08:48:57 I'd like to see them all in seperate panels i think though May 27 08:49:08 our testing found that people got a little lost with them all together May 27 08:49:14 nedrichards, also i don't see the mutter-moblin on gitorious May 27 08:49:19 even though I agree, it's more intuitive to me May 27 08:49:59 yah photos, videos, audio separated would be more intiuitive to my mother May 27 08:50:38 and photos should ideally aggregate flickr, picasa, facebook, local photos May 27 08:55:27 zaheerm: that's the aim May 27 08:59:38 Hi, all. Is there something wrong with yum databases in Meego 1.0, or is it just me? Update manager fails, running sudo yum upgrade leads to a hang-up, and even running ls /etc/yum.repos.d does so. What's the problem? May 27 09:00:01 <_Pete_> where is the instructions how to install http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/images/meego-n900-open-armv7l/ May 27 09:20:59 hi May 27 09:21:47 anyone active? im wondering if it is possible to change the keyboard layout in meego 1.0 (netbbok version) - cant find any option for that :( May 27 09:23:26 _Pete_ it's without UI anyway - right? May 27 09:24:02 ZogG: correct, there's no UI released for the handset May 27 09:24:11 =( May 27 09:24:26 and no dualboot as i assume? May 27 09:24:34 ZogG: on netbook? May 27 09:24:45 on handset May 27 09:25:20 I don't know about that tbh May 27 09:25:24 but I really doubt it May 27 09:25:30 me too =) May 27 09:25:43 just was wondering to play around with it, but i need a phone too May 27 09:25:51 azmo: is that different keyboard layouts within the same 'language group'? May 27 09:25:58 i.e. Dvorak etc. May 27 09:25:59 meego 1.0 not for phone May 27 09:26:02 :( May 27 09:26:05 :@ May 27 09:26:31 expensive brick May 27 09:26:42 nedrichards language group? its seems to be english keyboard layout qwerty and id like it to be qwertz with äöü (german layout) May 27 09:26:53 ok May 27 09:27:18 azmo: but still with english as the UI language? or changing everything to german May 27 09:27:21 azmo maybe you should check for configs? May 27 09:27:26 does it use udev? May 27 09:27:35 cant find any option for it and cant use console because i dont know live image's root pwd.. May 27 09:27:40 azmo, check the /etc/udev for any keyboard rules May 27 09:27:42 skynets: no, handset UX not out yet May 27 09:27:59 yet? May 27 09:28:04 dont care if UI is german or english.. May 27 09:28:09 i thought MeeGo won't be on the N900 May 27 09:28:13 havin a look at udev May 27 09:28:18 skynets: no, nokia meego won't be on n900 May 27 09:28:21 meego will be for sure May 27 09:28:27 oh May 27 09:28:31 hmm May 27 09:28:39 difference? May 27 09:28:49 Nokia version vs community version? May 27 09:28:58 nokia doesn't answer your tech suppot calls and you won't have their differentiation May 27 09:29:18 screw nokia May 27 09:29:31 fair enough May 27 09:29:53 since the N97 theyve been going downhill May 27 09:29:54 nedrichards anyways is it even possibler to change evryting to german right now? May 27 09:29:55 skynets: So... Nokia allowing you to install unsupported software is screw-them-worthy... Nice stance, i applaud your connection with reality, Sir ;) May 27 09:30:01 azmo: I believe the layout is supposed to change when you change the language May 27 09:30:03 well i cannot find any layout options in /etc/udev May 27 09:30:18 leinir.. allowing? you can do that with pretty much any phone these days May 27 09:30:30 android on the iphone May 27 09:30:36 android on the n900 May 27 09:30:36 not intentionally fwiw May 27 09:30:37 nedrichards but where to do that? cant find any config tool May 27 09:30:57 apple could block hacks of that order if they want May 27 09:30:57 azmo, launch the settings application May 27 09:31:07 on nokia n900 you dont even have to jailbreak :) May 27 09:31:29 there should be a language option in there May 27 09:31:31 Stskeeps, yeah but there isnt any good software to block to begin with May 27 09:31:45 i dont care if i jailbreak it, i end up with good software if i do May 27 09:31:53 Mmm, troll-tastic ;) May 27 09:31:54 the n900 has like 100 apps May 27 09:31:56 :shrug: May 27 09:31:59 either way May 27 09:31:59 azmo: however, in an off the books fashion i've just typed sudo zypper install system-config-keyboard May 27 09:32:02 this is meego, not noki May 27 09:32:03 :P May 27 09:32:04 a May 27 09:32:08 and then run system-config-keyboard on the command line May 27 09:32:14 which will certainly work May 27 09:32:16 right May 27 09:32:20 good luck with meego May 27 09:32:25 i hope it goes well May 27 09:32:27 we try to do the right thing here :P May 27 09:32:31 nedrichards: ok thank you i will try that May 27 09:32:31 gn May 27 09:33:15 nedrichards: and i found the settings finally didnt even know they were there.. its a bit confusing.. May 27 09:33:31 leinir, the difference is that you don't have proper support for official os =) May 27 09:33:57 azmo: sure, last time I looed it was a default favourite - not sure why that's not in the release May 27 09:34:04 I'll have to file a bug ;-) May 27 09:34:56 nedrichards: yeah.. i sposethat wil be changed someday.. alyways the first thing i do, tweak the settings. i like the ui and everything and was just playing around when i realized that it was the wrong keyboard layout.. ;) May 27 09:35:06 sure May 27 09:35:10 ZogG: No proper support for maemo5? Not sure i follow you there... what with the release of PR1.2 yesterday and such, i feel it's being supported quite well, really ;) May 27 09:35:14 nedrichards: settings have never been in default fav apps. :-) May 27 09:35:32 robster: It was on my list that it was supposed to be May 27 09:35:43 leinir check the bugs that were fixed, some of them are not. May 27 09:35:47 if you remember the 'that means there'll be 5 and it'll look wrong' discussion ;-0 May 27 09:35:54 nedrichards: whats the live systems's root pwd btw? May 27 09:36:04 nedrichards: hehe, yeh, but was it ever in bugzilla.. ;-) May 27 09:36:08 azmo: meego? May 27 09:36:09 azmo: I'm not totally sure, bet it's meego May 27 09:36:11 leinir, btw the adv says about flash , but sites are going for 10, and you don't =-) May 27 09:36:23 robster: thus my point above - bug or it didn't happen ;-) May 27 09:36:33 "meego is not the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." May 27 09:36:35 o0 May 27 09:36:36 leinir, you don't have any info and the main force are in meego now... 1+1 =... May 27 09:36:45 azmo: seriously May 27 09:36:47 nedrichards: exactly, and it's not something we can upgrade through either.. May 27 09:36:47 hilarious May 27 09:36:53 Hi folks, does the Meego 1.0 work on core 2 duo machines with intel graphic (nott gma500)? Or is it just Atom based stuff? May 27 09:36:58 azmo, have you found keyboard rules? May 27 09:37:06 azmo: yeh, that's the case on the live system su will work. May 27 09:37:17 inteallahonsen, why would you want it on core 2 duo? May 27 09:37:21 inteallahonsen: I see no reason it wouldn't work May 27 09:37:37 ZogG: Oh well, that's your opinion i'm sure - i just happen to find maemo decidedly better supported than e.g. the HTC handsets running... well, anything really ;) May 27 09:37:40 so long as the features are >Atom and the graphics has an open driver it should work May 27 09:37:41 inteallahonsen: should work, needs SS��E3 (core 2+) and i9+ graphics May 27 09:37:42 zogd nope.. not yet. i managed to change language (but change will occur only when next login and im on a live system so reboot is out of the question.. any manual logout/login options there? May 27 09:37:46 (htc as an example, there's plenty others out there) May 27 09:37:59 why cant meego connect to wpa2 networks? May 27 09:38:07 leinir, maybe HTC because they don't have their own Os, but nexus ? May 27 09:38:08 azmo: press power button twice May 27 09:38:08 ZogG: Because I dont go to the store and spend shitloads of cash when I got a laptop already? May 27 09:38:09 summel: that's a bug, it can for me May 27 09:38:15 oO May 27 09:38:24 summel: when you open a bug report make sure to include the output of lspci May 27 09:38:30 yes, please May 27 09:38:31 i cant join wpa2 personal or wpa2 enterprise networks May 27 09:38:35 what robster said May 27 09:38:39 also synching with my n900 does not work May 27 09:38:41 robster, nedrichards: Thanks! :D May 27 09:38:48 inteallahonsen, but the point f meego for netbooks, the laptop can run a regular OS =) May 27 09:38:53 and brightness controls also dont work :/ May 27 09:38:53 summel: I've not tested enterprise but I have a personal one at home May 27 09:39:06 inteallahonsen: when you run it on a laptop you'll see big screen mode - new for 1.0 May 27 09:39:20 nedrichards: big screen mode? May 27 09:39:20 things will behave a bit more like a normal os than on a netbook May 27 09:39:29 robster ah su works yeah thx.. pressig power twice now May 27 09:39:37 i also have a wpa2 personal network at home... but when i enter the password i just get an "connection failed" May 27 09:39:46 summel: that's something that's only guaranteed to work on productized builds when you buy a netbook with MeeGo preloaded May 27 09:39:51 nedrichards: ah.. lol as in opposed of small screen 7-10 inch. May 27 09:39:53 eww May 27 09:40:01 inteallahonsen: yup May 27 09:40:03 summel: that kernel support / hardware just isn't there for all the variety of netbooks. May 27 09:40:06 robster: ok pressing it twice made the system shutdown ;) May 27 09:40:08 ok im back to another distribution then -_- May 27 09:40:12 ZogG: The nexus is Google's dev device - if you take a look at the google phone 1, well... how well is that being supported now? :) May 27 09:40:19 azmo: yup and then you can reboot by turning it back on ;-) May 27 09:40:56 robster: lol ok but on a live system i dont think the changes will survive the reboot :-p May 27 09:40:58 does bluetooth syncing with an n900 work for anybody else? May 27 09:41:13 azmo: ah, yes. that's true isn't it. May 27 09:41:17 robster: well i wil install it anyways now.. May 27 09:41:35 azmo: the live system is only in english i guess :-) May 27 09:41:35 leinir new android is going to nexus. and maemo is dead, while n900 is 6 month old and there a lot of non-functional stuff. meego is not going to n900 officialy May 27 09:41:39 robster the last hint with the console ability and the settings app decided it for me :) May 27 09:42:02 azmo: on the installed version, you user is in the sudoers file btw, it's just a live system thing May 27 09:42:27 robster think so.. was just confused about the apparent lack of settings app but now im quite happy May 27 09:43:17 azmo: http://help.meego.com/netbook/settings has the documentation May 27 09:43:44 Are there any plans for a backport of the .34 kernel with trim support ? May 27 09:44:13 Votan: hopefully meego will go on 2.6.34 when it's released. May 27 09:44:48 robster thx its getting even better ^^ May 27 09:45:42 leinir i'm not one of the whining guys, i'm trying to be objective. i love n900 and maemo, but maemo doesn't got the fully functional OS and it wouldn't because Nokia is all in MeeGo now. as well i don't like google(it's evil) but their support is much better. May 27 09:46:13 ok thank you all i will try an install now ^^ May 27 09:47:02 Stskeeps i see, is there no pre-compiled .34 kernel with standard meego settings ? like the mainline-ppa for ubuntu ? May 27 09:47:50 Votan: 2.6.34 wasn't released when freeze in meego came about, at least May 27 09:48:46 Stskeeps yes, but maybe some dev compiled a .34 kernel with the meego settings and could put it online for testing purposes or at least TRIM support for people with modern SSDs May 27 09:48:49 I just found this: http://www.nokian900applications.com/meego-1-0-for-nokia-n900/ May 27 09:49:21 Votan: haven't seen it yet. ask on mailing list :) May 27 09:49:21 and n900 is not the phone, it' expensive handset and the its wrong to support it only for half year. i believe will get pr1.3 with small fixes and maybe 1.4 but you even don't know that as nokia's policy is " we don't own you anything", you bought it - okay, that's what you have. on other hand look as n900 was launched in Hong-Kong not that far ago, and it was already when Nokia switched to MeeGo. it's not right to make an 6months old O May 27 09:49:22 S. and i wouldn't care if maemo was fully open with open drivers, than community would do what Nokia haven't done May 27 09:50:20 meh, that's supposed to be what is changing with meego :P May 27 09:51:13 Stskeeps, what n900 drivers currently are supported in MeeGo? May 27 09:51:41 Stskeeps, if i would install it and get hildon on it, how workable it would be? May 27 09:51:52 ZogG: image with closed bits? bluetooth, wifi, 3d acceleration, battery charging, telephony stack in progress May 27 09:52:06 sec May 27 09:52:28 so i can get functional thing except phone? May 27 09:52:49 i mean, technically, yes, but there's no UX and there's a lot of leg work in putting hildon anywhere due to maemo gtk May 27 09:53:21 ZogG: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Hardware_support May 27 09:53:48 Stskeeps is pr1.2 hildon still in gtk? May 27 09:53:56 odin_: yes May 27 09:54:00 *ZogG May 27 09:54:06 okay May 27 09:54:13 and i dont think it will change May 27 09:54:17 and meego pkgs are rpm? May 27 09:54:22 yes May 27 09:55:10 but i would be able to convert deb pkgs from maemo to meego's rpm and install them manuanlly May 27 09:55:26 right, except that maemo gtk is incompatible and older version of gtk May 27 09:55:36 than i could run hildon but still would need stuff to work with bluetooth and wifi and so on? May 27 09:56:00 Stskeeps, with hildon you mean or meego? meego has gtk? May 27 09:56:14 meego has gtk but it isn't maemo gtk :) May 27 09:56:15 Is ConnMan now actually supporting VPN ? May 27 09:56:18 trust me, it is a bit complicated May 27 09:56:32 hi May 27 09:56:42 Stskeeps i'm talking theoretically and just want to understand how it works =) May 27 09:57:42 is netbook meego suppose to be for multitouch screens? May 27 10:00:30 i wonder when the first crazy person comes around that wants to put meego on his 770.. May 27 10:00:34 ZogG: no. May 27 10:00:51 Stskeeps: I would have done it already if I had such hardware May 27 10:00:56 Stskeeps if i had n700 May 27 10:01:09 Stskeeps: but I can try with Freerunner if that makes you happy May 27 10:01:17 Tm_T: nah, we build for armv5 and armv7 May 27 10:01:18 i'm thinking more and more about gentoo May 27 10:01:35 Stskeeps: I know, that wouldn't stop me though (: May 27 10:01:45 Stskeeps, i want meego port for 8086 May 27 10:01:59 Tm_T, wouldn't stop you, but you'd still have to recompile all your applications etc. May 27 10:02:07 i mean 386 =) May 27 10:02:13 Termana: I know that very well (: May 27 10:02:37 that was the point in my comment (:) May 27 10:02:56 whatever makes Stskeeps happy May 27 10:09:42 <_Brandon_> hi, anyone knows how to use the meego .img file under vmware/virtualbox? I got a black screen with vmware and a freeze with virtualbox after selecting "boot meego" May 27 10:11:52 can v May 27 10:11:58 mware use .img? May 27 10:12:25 virtualbox can, but I have the same issue May 27 10:12:28 freezes May 27 10:12:34 <_Brandon_> well the img looks like an iso file to me May 27 10:12:39 installing worked but after reboot nothing shows May 27 10:13:41 I've installed meego to my Acer Aspire One but it doesn't work. I get: init id x respawning too fast, disabled for five minutes, repeatedly line by line on the screen and no further progress May 27 10:13:49 stefan99: AFAIK Virtualbox doesn't accelerate DRI2 so it won't work May 27 10:18:15 nedrichards, ok thanks, to bad though :( May 27 10:20:36 <_Brandon_> apparently with vmware it didn't freeze, I can login from a console, but xorg is probably crashing May 27 10:21:31 stefan99: yeah, it's annoying - we've been spending some time working on this for the SDK and stuff but it's a little way off still May 27 10:22:13 how can I make it work? May 27 10:26:45 the meego install was succesful ^^ May 27 10:26:51 azmo: excellent May 27 10:26:55 unfortunately, my win xp does not boot anymore now May 27 10:27:41 there is much work to be done to improve meego.. grub isnt supposed to kill my xp boot... tryig to restore now May 27 10:28:35 small favors May 27 10:29:56 I'll try and repeat the installation - is there anything I should do or shouldn't have done, to avoid this init idx respawning nonsense? May 27 10:32:03 Hi-m testing meego on the eeepc... It is a surprise for me that the main UI is the old moblin clutter UI May 27 10:33:05 is a qt UX in the workings? May 27 10:33:19 vincenzo1234: not that I'm aware of May 27 10:33:59 where will qt be emploied? just for apps development? May 27 10:34:43 vincenzo1234: well, we're shipping with Qt and the Garage app is written in it May 27 10:34:51 so it's up to developers if they want to use it May 27 10:35:04 other UXs will have different policies and be written in different tech May 27 10:36:03 from the press I understood that the main gui toolkit for meego was going to be qt... May 27 10:36:35 as it is now it looks more a side feature/option than a core technology. May 27 10:36:53 It will be, it might just take some time to turn around Mobiln apps etc. to make them Qt. May 27 10:37:07 The MeegoTouch UI framework is based on Qt (QGraphicsView) May 27 10:37:54 macron: ah, ok, that makes a whole lot of sense! May 27 10:38:34 Is Skype available for MeeGo? May 27 10:38:59 ieatfish: I've used the Fedora version succesfully May 27 10:39:23 macron: any idea on when to expect the <>?;''massive transition to qt May 27 10:45:05 I've just reinstalled it to my Acer Aspire One and it worked properly this time. I unplugged the external monitor this time during the installation and initial booting, if that made a difference. May 27 10:47:30 macron: sorry I got disconnected May 27 10:50:33 macron: do you know when the transition to qt will take place for the moblin apps? May 27 10:56:35 Is there a guide to flashing the official MeeGo to the N900 (Linux 64 bit)? May 27 10:57:11 chances are you'll want to wait a little bit for us to publish the closed image. both have only a x terminal so careful what you wish for :) May 27 10:57:28 Does anyone know if MeeGo 1.0 has an irc client? May 27 10:58:09 tekojo: not in the default install but you can install telepathy-idle and there should be other apps available in extras/garage either now or soon May 27 10:58:30 Stskeeps: makes me smile how much people expect everything to be ready now as version number is 1.0 May 27 10:58:36 nedrichards: thanks that's one of the things that is lacking May 27 11:03:19 Tm_T: I had been happy if it at least booted ;) May 27 11:05:37 tekojo: I thought that all geeks needed was gcc, terminal and a bit of magic? what the hell are you asking for, a GUI?! May 27 11:05:44 lolno. May 27 11:05:53 Myrtti: especially for irc... May 27 11:05:54 get a compiler, hippie ;-) May 27 11:06:10 *snerk* May 27 11:06:52 * Tm_T goes put irssi to default installs for now on May 27 11:07:45 or perhaps hcirc, hard coded to one channel, with manual pong answers to server etc May 27 11:07:52 even _our_ company has a shell server with irssi on it. true, it is mainly used to connect to the localhost bitlbee which connects to the localhost xmpp server, but still! IRSSI! May 27 11:08:29 on unrelated note, I just had my first cup of coffee in about a month. May 27 11:08:34 WHEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee May 27 11:08:37 I can tell May 27 11:08:42 * Tm_T huggles Myrtti May 27 11:10:13 is there a faq for the 1.0 netbook release? May 27 11:10:29 * FunkyPenguin is looking specifically at minimum screen resolution May 27 11:10:47 Myrtti: I just want an irc client I already got the compiler and kernel sources :) May 27 11:11:24 tekojo: for irc on meego we have empathy 2.30.1 May 27 11:11:48 im on it May 27 11:20:27 FunkyPenguin: same as before 1024x600 May 27 11:21:28 whilst it may actually work on smaller than that, I've never tested it on less May 27 11:22:21 nedrichards, ok thanks May 27 11:22:37 FunkyPenguin: it works better on bigger screens now though May 27 11:22:58 hmm looking at my crappy old 701 it seems to work fine, other than not seeing the battery May 27 11:24:04 im glad you dropped the web panel though, that was a pita to build for me :) May 27 11:25:44 FunkyPenguin: it's not dropped! May 27 11:25:51 some nice men in china worked very hard on that May 27 11:26:01 it works with chrome and everything May 27 11:26:08 oh? May 27 11:26:19 hmm maybe the 701 still cant display it properly May 27 11:26:35 * FunkyPenguin tries with an external monitor May 27 11:26:50 FunkyPenguin: go to settings and have a play with toolbar settings May 27 11:26:55 or, as you say, an external monitor May 27 11:26:58