**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 28 03:00:14 2010 May 28 03:02:50 hello hola hi May 28 03:03:11 . May 28 03:03:15 hello May 28 03:03:17 hole May 28 03:03:18 hi May 28 03:03:25 hola May 28 03:03:27 .............. May 28 03:03:39 no hay nadies aqui May 28 03:03:41 ????¿¿¿¿¿¿¿?????? May 28 03:46:19 Hi there, meego sdk only supports linux now, right? May 28 04:25:30 hello will meego work on a desktop computer with an intel cpu? May 28 04:28:33 anyone here? May 28 04:30:38 no ones here May 28 04:32:51 mint, it probably will, as long as the CPU has support for SSSE3 May 28 04:33:50 ok thanks then ill download it and try it May 28 06:36:51 mmm meego May 28 06:38:42 I hear meego doesn't work with gma500 May 28 06:38:45 but the betas do May 28 06:38:49 is this true? May 28 06:39:28 we have meego betas? :P May 28 06:41:53 It seems meego sdk only supports linux, when will it starts to support mac and windows ? May 28 06:42:54 PrO: think that comes with the qt minded sdks May 28 06:52:55 PrO: soon May 28 07:00:06 hi May 28 07:02:56 Stskeeps: have you seen arjan's email on -dev "they're being finalized right now and documented" (kernel process docs) May 28 07:03:24 surely that should be : "the first public draft is being written?" ... May 28 07:03:32 "on the wiki" May 28 07:03:36 "in the open" May 28 07:03:55 * lbt goes for a shower May 28 07:03:56 lbt: well, kernel team doesn't work in the open atm and i guess it's up to team members to determine policy .. but dunno May 28 07:04:00 :P May 28 07:04:30 we all have to bootstrap somewhere and it can't possibly be worse than the last one. May 28 07:13:12 Stskeeps: is there a single kernel team, or different ones for the different platforms ? May 28 07:13:46 pinchartl: actually, we're not entirely sure.. there's one central repo May 28 07:14:26 ok May 28 07:14:31 well, one central official repo :-) May 28 07:15:17 I would be very surprised if each device vendor didn't develop their own kernel changes behind closed doors May 28 07:15:27 we develop our n900 stuff in the open at least May 28 07:16:20 Stskeeps: including the kernel for n900+ (harmattan) ? May 28 07:17:05 pinchartl: meego (proper meego) n900 kernel, 2.6.33 and such, is developed openly May 28 07:17:17 ah ok, that one May 28 07:17:46 but vendors will still customize kernels for their product. as much as we will encourage them to do so openly, I don't expect them to push all changes upstream for instance May 28 07:17:54 they have to May 28 07:18:02 if they want their changes into meego kernel package May 28 07:18:04 s/product/products/ May 28 07:18:05 pinchartl meant: but vendors will still customize kernels for their products. as much as we will encourage them to do so openly, I don't expect them to push all changes upstream for instance May 28 07:18:26 yes, *if* they want their changes into the meego kernel package May 28 07:18:36 they can't be meego compliant otherwise May 28 07:18:37 :P May 28 07:19:48 Stskeeps: let's take an example then. what about the DRM (as in digital restrictions/rights management) framework scheduled for then n900 successor ? that one won't make it upstream May 28 07:20:14 that's supposed to be open source, afaik, but we don't have anything to deal with the successor May 28 07:20:16 if the DRM framework isn't upstreamed, then meego probably won't have it May 28 07:20:23 which means Nokia may have to keep that as a delta on top of meego May 28 07:20:46 thiago_home: ok, that's what I thought. thanks for the clarification May 28 07:20:47 pinchartl: i think kernel process is still being worked on May 28 07:21:08 note the "probably" May 28 07:21:45 also note that "not upstream" doesn't mean "not open source" May 28 07:21:50 indeed May 28 07:22:07 the kernel is covered by the GPL license, and I wouldn't expect Nokia not to comply with it :-) May 28 07:22:13 I have no worries there May 28 07:22:13 damn, three negatives in the sentence :-) May 28 07:25:28 Stskeeps: so you're working on the meego kernel for the N900 ? do you know if someone is working on the camera driver(s) ? May 28 07:25:41 pinchartl: feel free to ask in #meego-arm May 28 07:25:50 thanks May 28 07:26:55 Hi all ! May 28 07:42:04 <_wasabi> hello May 28 07:42:30 <_wasabi> i'm trying to figure out why aim won't connect on empathy or pidgin. i think it has something to do with the gnome-proxy settings May 28 07:42:50 <_wasabi> but i've tried changing it to direct connection but i still don't have any luck with aim May 28 07:43:07 <_wasabi> has anyone experienced the same problem? May 28 08:23:02 are u actually able to install ANY non-meego rpm without geting errors ?! May 28 08:23:13 it wont even let me install dropbox o.0 May 28 08:29:38 how do you actually open a shell in MeeGo ? May 28 08:30:10 hello May 28 08:33:46 Votan: in applications there is terminal? or do an alt+left ? or is that not what you mean? May 28 08:36:33 hi guys, does anybody know, if you can save network profiles? my router just quit and i had to reconnect but meego didnt save the password. since my router is a bit unstable (as the one in university) this could very easily get on ones nerves. May 28 08:55:23 anyone inhere tried to use chrome unstable instead of beta ? May 28 09:13:05 Hi MeeGo Gurus... just trying to install MeeGo on an Asus 700 (4GB SD Disk).. whats the minimum partitions/sizes it requires - default layout complains of not enough disk space May 28 09:31:43 Hi all May 28 09:32:51 I have downloaded the MeeGo live img with google chrome and run on intel pc May 28 09:34:13 in applications there is no office or presentation viewr ? am i get the wrong image or MeeGo by default doesn't support the ooffice ? May 28 09:35:55 does meego support ooffice ? May 28 09:41:53 any one please help me .. May 28 09:43:23 what are system requirments for meego? I read these http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook and I have them, but how much space I have to separate for it? May 28 09:44:07 Because I have one empty 8GB partition, but when try to format it as btrfs with mountpoint / from meego installer I get an error(not enough space for writting the partitions) May 28 09:44:24 DawnFoster: do you mind digging through the ML moderation queue at some point? nothing urgent -- I think you might have a mail from one of the collabora folks regarding our mirror being fixed now May 28 09:44:54 I could of separate for it not more than 8-10 in addition to these 8...but still? May 28 09:45:54 * w00t_ does not know May 28 10:05:40 In MeeGo 1.0 is there any document viewer (.doc .ppt,pdf ) ? May 28 10:12:11 hi all. congratulations for the release of meego 1.0. since i'm new with meego i think i want to understand why meego using .rpm instead of .deb? and also if meego using .rpm the command line will be like in fedora (yum)? thanks May 28 10:13:07 first question: because all the toolset (OBS, image building, etc) and OS core was rpm, and lightyears ahead of debian tools in some regards.. second is yum or zypper May 28 10:14:17 Stskeeps: lightyears? (:) May 28 10:14:39 Tm_T: my primary argument is that debian tools are good for managing debian.org stuff May 28 10:14:43 :P May 28 10:16:59 MeeGo 1.0 can't install on 20GB partition, because of "Could not allocate requested partitions: Not enough free space on disk May 28 10:17:03 Stskeeps: the HAM update times are unacceptable May 28 10:17:19 meego must be much better May 28 10:17:33 I have more than 20GB free(un formated partition) and this thing doesn't even want to create a 1GB boot partition May 28 10:17:37 in fact, i would ensure that if allowed May 28 10:25:23 I have a question why is mono included in meego when its legal status is undefined. Does Intel or Nokia have an agreement that protects us downstream? May 28 10:26:02 Yes, it's called "Software patents don't apply in Finland" ;) May 28 10:26:14 So I am screwed May 28 10:26:24 Don't download or use. May 28 10:26:44 Honestly, i haven't a clue, i just personally don't really care for or about mono any way at all :) May 28 10:27:28 The issue with mono is the patent issue is not resolved. So everyone in countries where patent cases applies using it is a risk. May 28 10:28:07 That includes means to block imports of products including items in patent breach. May 28 10:28:33 Only one currently out side MS with distribution rights I know of is Novell. leinir May 28 10:28:48 Ie get mono directly from Novell legally safe. May 28 10:29:22 meego is a linux foundation project May 28 10:29:46 And guess what the foundation has sections of it inside the USA. Stskeeps May 28 10:30:22 I'm sure they have lawyers involved if needed May 28 10:30:34 So yes its a what the heck is going on question. If some side distribution like Ubuntu wants to ship mono who base of operation is out usa fine. May 28 10:30:59 Problem with these patent cases they will wait until the item is in major use before hitting. Tm_T May 28 10:31:18 And then are able to hit right back to the point you started using. May 28 10:32:05 If there is a deal there covering it no issue. May 28 10:32:26 oiaohm: you think Linux Foundation haven't think of this? Or other parties involved? (: May 28 10:32:39 * Tm_T just finds it funny why these are discussed here May 28 10:32:45 or the hordes of nokia and intel lawyers.. May 28 10:33:16 That is if they know yet. Stskeeps May 28 10:33:36 a bit less government would help things along May 28 10:33:51 Thing the past versions of nokia and intel os did not include mono. May 28 10:34:15 oiaohm: silverlight's also coming to meego, it seems like May 28 10:34:30 silverlight is covered by a intel coverage deal. May 28 10:34:42 Now if mono is as well fine. May 28 10:34:50 Hi ! May 28 10:34:59 But for us handing it we need to know what is covered and what is not. May 28 10:35:13 raise the issue on mailing list, LF lawyers are listening in May 28 10:35:18 Novell deal clearly says if it comes from novell fine. May 28 10:35:28 But if you pass it on to anyone else May 28 10:35:30 You are toast. May 28 10:35:54 oiaohm are you a lawyer? May 28 10:36:05 where is that mono used? May 28 10:36:15 I have had lawyers go over using mono. tekojo May 28 10:36:33 Reason why I am asking question. I know exactly where limits are. May 28 10:36:47 Unless there is some other agreement I don't have. May 28 10:36:55 I would also suggest taking it to dev list, that's where the you will find either lawyers or maintainers who talk to lawyers May 28 10:37:29 I will you can understand why I want answer. tekojo May 28 10:37:47 I know enough to always ask a lawyer :) May 28 10:38:13 * sx0n is wondering should i buy law firms stocks, they have golden time coming 'coss foss May 28 10:38:40 I was hoping it would be simple as read this agreement over there its covered. May 28 10:38:49 Not ok lets not worry about it. May 28 10:39:40 legal things are never simple, it's always a situation where you have several opinions, a law to be interpreted and a court to handle the whole thing May 28 10:40:14 so always best find a lawyer to ask :) May 28 10:40:33 it's like cold war, where everybody loses May 28 10:40:55 I hope the answer is intel or someone has a deal covering everyone. May 28 10:42:41 as reading mono wiki pages, i don't see why it would be important, or even provided in releases. May 28 10:43:45 when doing stuff for resource constrained devices, one might do well to avoid excessive framework layers… there is limited amounts of memory‚ cpu and battery power available... May 28 10:44:28 kiss ftw May 28 10:44:29 jusliukk, sure, thats why meego is written entirely in binary. i've worn off the 1 and 0 keys on my laptop keyboard :( May 28 10:44:46 lcuk, :D May 28 10:45:56 Amiga had good philosophy: Excellence through simplicity May 28 10:48:51 sx0n, +10000000000000 May 28 10:49:28 Most people failed to notice more and more of mono has changed to MIT licence that does not have even implied patent protection. May 28 10:50:34 notmart: ohai May 28 10:50:46 Tm_T: yo May 28 10:51:29 banshee is written with Gtk#, hence the inclusion of Mono May 28 10:54:02 bpeel: not a good enough reason if its not legally covered. Fedora does quite well default without Mono. May 28 10:54:14 So without benshee May 28 10:54:36 banshee's an reference app, you can remove it in own images May 28 10:55:09 also you can write an app that is so much better than banshee, making use of it worthless May 28 10:56:34 If its just a reference app and there is not a legal coverage it should be gone. Then correct app will have to come. May 28 10:57:25 I have posted to the mailing list see what comes of it. Hopefully its not oversite because this could cause some mirror sites some issues. May 28 10:57:34 it seems pretty pointless to continue the discussion here, there won't be any decisions made at this time and all that jazz May 28 10:58:05 I was hoping it was a simple case I had missed a coverage document. Tm_T May 28 10:58:12 ye May 28 10:58:22 So I would not have to bother developers. May 28 10:59:42 I just know from my past is really simple to be in a rush to put something together and forget about legal sides then go o crap. May 28 11:05:26 * Tm_T goes chop some wood so the home stays warm May 28 11:09:55 on what distro is meego based? May 28 11:10:01 it's based on itself May 28 11:10:18 it doesn't uses any package type? May 28 11:10:28 rpm May 28 11:10:31 What' that got to do with distro? :) May 28 11:10:50 it uses the OpenSUSE build service, rpm packages, and has some stuff taken from fedora but a lot re-packaged too May 28 11:11:02 hi! i'd like to know if meego will support gma500 (in future rev)? because i've seen some patches for psb in the git repos May 28 11:11:28 lucazade: i doubt netbook ux will, but i've seen IEGD mentioned as a point of reference for meego May 28 11:11:47 Robot101: thanks May 28 11:15:21 Stskeeps: thanks for the info.. i'll throw this netbook out a window :( May 28 11:15:31 lucazade: i'll take it if you won't ;) May 28 11:15:50 will u put windows on it?!? May 28 11:15:51 lol May 28 11:17:02 well, i have a similar situation, i have a joggler with gma500 May 28 11:17:06 i can still find good use for it May 28 11:18:40 I assume nothing new on the Meego N900 UX? May 28 11:18:44 i can find a good use as well.. but.. it still remain a terrbile situation May 28 11:19:55 Hi, any chance to get apache package from somewhere or do I have to build from source? May 28 11:20:16 lucazade: I'm hoping we can have unofficial support for that kind of thing on the community OBS May 28 11:20:24 zs: have you looked in extras May 28 11:20:24 i believe a voodoo gfx card is better supported :) May 28 11:20:42 lbt_ : i hope too May 28 11:21:01 lbt_: I activated all repositories but I dont see it there May 28 11:22:55 hmm, I thought lighttpd was in there... but I can't find that now either May 28 11:23:44 right, I will build from source then May 28 11:24:07 wouldn't it be nice if you had an OBS to do that on.... grrr May 28 11:24:59 zs: would you step up and 'maintain' it for the meego community? May 28 11:25:18 (slow slow chromium) May 28 11:25:35 lbt_: I am not as good to do that :) May 28 11:25:46 zs: np... got to ask :) May 28 11:29:17 the "disable touchpad when typing" option in touchpad settings seems to lag me out May 28 11:32:46 no cursor lag now that i unchecked this option, fingers crossed May 28 11:56:01 also, are we a lightning rod towards open source issues here? rpm vs deb, mono, .. gtk vs qt May 28 11:56:11 we're really mounting a impressive bunch of issues ;) May 28 11:59:43 Stskeeps: indeed May 28 12:00:26 can't wait vim vs emacs and konqueror vs chrome May 28 12:00:30 * Tm_T hides May 28 12:00:39 anybody knows a cool frontend in qt for mplayer ? May 28 12:00:50 koupsaa: kmplayer May 28 12:01:02 well, it's not plain qt but... May 28 12:01:08 'k' like kde ? May 28 12:01:25 don't now if meego support kde libraries May 28 12:01:38 yup, can use mplayer and phonon (and phonon can use then vlc, xine, mplayer etc) May 28 12:01:47 koupsaa: ah, that can be an issue, yes May 28 12:02:05 but I would assume there is/will be support for KDE stuff May 28 12:02:40 thx i go to see phonon May 28 12:03:19 koupsaa: phonon is not player itself, it's just... framework library May 28 12:05:25 i already have mplayer installed in meego codec etc... . but i need a frontend (my friend laugh when he see terminal :) ) May 28 12:05:57 he ask me if my eepc is an amstrad :) May 28 12:06:32 run "videohollydays.avi" May 28 12:06:56 koupsaa: smplayer perhaps? May 28 12:07:06 http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/ May 28 12:19:58 mkdir ~/git May 28 12:20:06 euh woops sorry May 28 12:21:40 R Federer is so great. he disturb me :) May 28 12:22:27 meego handheld has the security framework stuff planned for it May 28 12:22:37 will the same framework exist on desktop variant? May 28 12:23:10 hi all :) May 28 12:23:21 i see that meego 1.0 for netbooks is out May 28 12:23:34 do you know if it supports wpa enterprise connections? May 28 12:23:58 yep it supports wpa May 28 12:24:31 certificates too? May 28 12:24:32 :O May 28 12:24:39 (moblin doesn't) May 28 12:24:54 i need to connect to a wpa-EAP May 28 12:39:41 Gaap, sorry i watch rolland garros . well i m on wpa (tkip+aes). i don't now if this helpyou May 28 12:40:40 try in 'liveusb' May 28 12:45:25 is it possible to run MeeGo on VirtualBox? May 28 12:47:57 townxelliot: couldn't we technically ask people to drop in their libGL* from their host system into their chroot? in nvidia scenario for instance May 28 12:50:37 Stskeeps: you know more about it than I do :) I know very little about the OpenGL stuff (I'm really an application developer, not a platform guy); Haitao Feng, Jackie Wu, the people who've answered on the thread are the technical people on that; if it would work, why not? May 28 12:51:03 townxelliot: hmm, i'll try to bait the idea.. i mean, it is the GL api the UX uses anyway May 28 12:52:00 Stskeeps: punt it to meego-sdk, those guys will probably be able to help May 28 13:22:03 hello. Is OpenMax IL officially part of MeeGo? May 28 13:23:32 j-b, atm, only as gstreamer plug-ins May 28 13:24:03 meaning I am not allowed to use it, else? May 28 13:24:41 j-b, no - just that you can't rely on it being available on other meego based systems May 28 13:24:54 it's not part of the stable api at this stage May 28 13:25:33 Are there plans to be? May 28 13:26:00 j-b, i'm pushing it so there is hope May 28 13:26:22 that would be cool. May 28 13:26:25 j-b, by any chance of the vlc fame? May 28 13:26:31 jusliukk: ? May 28 13:26:53 helio chissini de castro told me of this guru vlc developer he met last wekeend May 28 13:26:57 helio is in my team May 28 13:27:10 http://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=tree;f=modules/codec/omxil;hb=HEAD May 28 13:27:36 this vlc-plugin makes it quite fast to decode on N900 May 28 13:27:49 j-b, very nice :) May 28 13:27:54 so before working on a MeeGo interface, I would prefer to know if it is hopeless or not May 28 13:28:04 and of course for the Intel Platfomrs, VAAPI is present May 28 13:28:08 but that is easier May 28 13:28:15 you can assume that omx support is basically inherited from the n900, unless we get something better in May 28 13:28:40 that something better will be discussed next week May 28 13:29:18 well, IIRC, we just dlopen the .so May 28 13:29:46 and we don't need extra headers, since they are copied into the omxil vlc plugin tree May 28 13:30:03 that's a very spartan approach, but works May 28 13:30:19 multimedia is always spartan ;) May 28 13:30:55 i very much hope we get meego be a 1st class openmax citizen, to get some standardization and good apis in place May 28 13:31:21 j-b: Hey, your travel back was ok ? May 28 13:31:30 Well, we have quite impressive perf on N900 (but using Hildon) May 28 13:31:49 heliocastro: f**king long, but cool. I read a lot May 28 13:31:55 and coded :) May 28 13:31:58 eheh May 28 13:32:05 as expected, :) May 28 13:32:22 i saw webm announcement May 28 13:32:30 that was easy :) May 28 13:32:36 for you May 28 13:32:39 hi heliocastro May 28 13:32:39 difficult is to stabilize the encoding May 28 13:32:45 Tm_T: Hey May 28 13:33:00 Being able to do DVD -> webm quickly is the funny part May 28 13:33:39 i will put my quad core to test encode today May 28 13:34:20 encode is easy, muxing correctly for live isn't May 28 13:35:32 jusliukk: many thanks for the answers. May 28 13:36:10 j-b, my pleasure May 28 13:37:41 bye guys May 28 13:42:31 hello people. Now with the 1.0 release I read news which confused me. Some say the n900 is a "core platform", some say there is no support for the n900 in meego (or other way around? No nokia support for meego?). The question is: Is meego considered as an n900 os where I can make phonecalls and sms after the installation. May 28 13:43:04 Nils^: not yet May 28 13:43:47 Nils^: there will be release with n900 binaries later (or so I heard) May 28 13:44:12 ok, but the plan is to be a n900 os sometimes in the future, right? May 28 13:44:51 yes, but not from nokia, from meego project instead May 28 13:44:56 Nils^: N900 is the development platform for MeeGo developers. But there will be no official release of MeeGo for N900 by Nokia. May 28 13:44:58 and it might not be as polished as a nokia release May 28 13:45:28 Stskeeps: I think we need a canned message bot. ;) May 28 13:45:46 you mean factoids? May 28 13:45:53 I am just concerned that maemo will die as a platform. Not concerned for maemo, but for me :) May 28 13:46:41 maemo is dead, once fremantle is no longer getting updates May 28 13:46:44 meego's the future May 28 13:46:44 :P May 28 13:46:56 Thats what I think, too. May 28 13:47:05 I thought the whole point of meego was to obsolete maemo May 28 13:47:07 .... May 28 13:47:16 why is this percieved as a bad thing? May 28 13:47:17 but then harmattan is steel maemo based, yes? May 28 13:47:18 Good morning! May 28 13:47:31 Bughead, good morning May 28 13:47:39 there is work being done towards pushing meego to the N900. May 28 13:47:41 Tm_T: well, yes. But now nokia says "meego is not for n900, our super phone/device". May 28 13:47:51 so, there will be maemo 6, but just won't be called by maemo name May 28 13:47:52 my gosh, where do you guys get your info? May 28 13:47:52 Nils^: not yet, yes May 28 13:48:06 Someone can tell me if MeeGo will USB boot in my MacBook (9400M)? May 28 13:48:11 smoku: Harmattan is built on Meego Core May 28 13:48:20 smoku: with Nokia's UX. May 28 13:48:30 no.. May 28 13:48:31 :P May 28 13:48:46 TSCHAKeee: no, it's built on maemo core May 28 13:48:56 (you might as well tell them that, explaining that it is meego compatible is only going to make it worse) May 28 13:49:03 it's an instance of meego apis plus ux plus nokia differentiation on top of maemo core. May 28 13:49:04 TSCHAKeee: read: still debian based May 28 13:49:04 * Termana dies May 28 13:49:41 i'm wondering why people are going all ape over these little details May 28 13:49:53 because of one simple reason May 28 13:50:01 the meego transition happened well into Nokia working on Harmattan... May 28 13:50:02 they are calling harmattan meego May 28 13:50:08 which is screwing up things immensely :) May 28 13:50:19 ok, i'll give you that one. May 28 13:52:06 as i understand it, Nokia is proceeding as planned and will be releasing Maemo 6 (codename Harmattan) as planned May 28 13:52:20 yup May 28 13:52:21 they just not calling it Maemo anymore May 28 13:53:20 if, you paint a dear in black-white stripes and start calling it zebra, does it mean that the dear is dead? May 28 13:53:39 deer, you mean? May 28 13:53:40 smoku, right, with but not just as planned, they are making sure its ABI compatible with MeeGo May 28 13:53:49 smoku, #philosophy is a different channel May 28 13:53:51 it's* May 28 13:54:07 * Stskeeps passes andre__ a good beer May 28 13:54:19 mmm May 28 13:54:22 good beer May 28 13:54:48 s/dear/deer/g May 28 13:54:49 smoku meant: if, you paint a deer in black-white stripes and start calling it zebra, does it mean that the deer is dead? May 28 13:54:52 Tm_T: thx May 28 13:55:06 Stskeeps, thanks :) May 28 13:55:26 does anyone actually talk in #meego-dev? May 28 13:55:58 dunno, not a official channel May 28 13:57:00 Termana: that's nice. but following this rationale, if I start bundling WINE with my Linux distribution it's not Linux anymore - it's Windows! May 28 13:57:05 now they tell me May 28 13:57:08 :P :) May 28 13:58:05 smoku, I wasn't drawing a line from the ABI compatibility to the name and saying thats why they are doing it. May 28 13:58:45 I simply made sure you understood its not just what they had planned, its also making sure there is API compatibility May 28 13:59:21 API* for all the times I used ABI - late night :P May 28 14:01:08 So where the voices "Maemo is dead" came from, then? May 28 14:03:41 17621 timeless 18 0 2264m 1.4g 532 R 0.2 82.7 791:59.28 genxref May 28 14:03:43 * timeless_mbp cries May 28 14:04:04 the computer i'm using has no memory available (11mb free, 4mb swap) May 28 14:09:22 first day for ipad in france.. and second day of meego for me.. but i m not on tv show :( May 28 14:09:25 :) May 28 14:55:03 hello May 28 14:58:38 Hey everyone. We're working a troubleshooting faq for users of MeeGo 1.0 on Netbooks. It's not quite ready for users, but we could use help getting it written :) May 28 14:58:50 http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=1997#post1997 May 28 15:10:28 * w00t_ mumbles about mailing lists and egos May 28 15:14:35 w00t_: sometimes topics like that seems to be more ego/religion than sense May 28 15:14:49 i take it you know the thread i'm mumbling about? :) May 28 15:14:55 very well May 28 15:15:12 * w00t_ hopes he can help push a bit of sanity in May 28 15:16:07 hi when i switch to external display my netbook screen turns off, is this a bug or feature? May 28 15:16:41 w00t_, sounds fun. May 28 15:16:46 w00t_, which thread? May 28 15:16:57 browser thread on meego-dev May 28 15:18:54 * GAN900 wishes fervently for threading in Modest. May 28 15:21:42 yup May 28 15:21:45 recockulous May 28 15:21:53 there are bigger issues to figure out May 28 15:22:12 and no, the fact that netbook UX bundles Banshee isn't one of them May 28 15:22:55 yup, it will be replaced with Qt apps anyway... May 28 15:23:03 * Tm_T hides May 28 15:23:08 * w00t_ headdesks. :P May 28 15:24:20 * CosmoHill puts a pill on w00t_'s desk May 28 15:28:06 pillow* May 28 15:32:55 interesting, when using the disk utility manager via the usb image to view a local hdd Meego crashes May 28 15:33:10 hi where can i find the md5sum for the chromium image? May 28 15:33:31 http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.md5sum May 28 15:33:43 only plus is that it crashes quickly and cleanly without spurting a ream of errors, but that is also a negative :) May 28 15:35:01 oh noes.. May 28 15:35:10 different md5sums :P May 28 15:35:53 btw i downloaded from a different site.. so will that matter? May 28 15:36:43 should all be the same May 28 15:36:49 :( May 28 15:36:56 * shadeslayer wonders if theres a torrent May 28 15:37:01 nope May 28 15:37:11 you can download the image from that server too May 28 15:38:17 okies... looks like ill have to download again May 28 15:39:52 shadeslayer, have you been having trouble downloading MeeGo from the actual site? May 28 15:40:07 like from here? May 28 15:40:08 http://download2.meego.com/ May 28 15:40:27 http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img May 28 15:40:28 w00t_: can I complain now about Qt vs QT ? May 28 15:40:31 * Tm_T hides May 28 15:40:51 that image should work, the md5sum checks out May 28 15:41:37 Hey I just my Dell Mini 10v setup with Meego 1.0. I got the Broadcom driver setup and installed. Only weird thing is that it doesn't show any wireless networks unless I do a "sudo iwlist scan" :( Is there some magic to fix that? May 28 15:42:10 When I do the "iwlist scan" as my normal user it says the interface doesn't support scanning. So I have to be root to scan. May 28 15:42:23 Tm_T: QuickTime is no good, Qt rocks. end of story. :-) May 28 15:42:26 could be a permission's issue May 28 15:42:27 techsoldaten: no actually i want a wgetable link or a torrent May 28 15:42:40 i keep closing and opening chromium :P May 28 15:42:42 w00t_: tell that in ML (; May 28 15:42:49 shadeslayer: the link i gave you :) May 28 15:42:56 got it May 28 15:42:58 CosmoHill: That was my assumption :) But I don't know how to give it permission. May 28 15:43:05 mind testing that link for me tho? May 28 15:43:07 chmod +s /path/to/file May 28 15:43:19 techsoldaten: which one? May 28 15:43:22 I am the guy making sure the servers work, and just want to check in on the experience for other folks May 28 15:43:24 http://download2.meego.com/ May 28 15:43:25 CosmoHill: The magic is in knowing what file ;) May 28 15:43:32 I know it;s not wgettable May 28 15:43:43 techsoldaten: oh i downloaded from dowload3.meego.com May 28 15:43:46 type -p iwlist May 28 15:43:48 that works too May 28 15:43:56 came down okay? no serious issues? May 28 15:44:00 techsoldaten: that was yesterday and now the md5sim is bad May 28 15:44:09 hrm May 28 15:44:11 techsoldaten: well.. i downloaded with a -c option May 28 15:44:16 techsoldaten: j0nn i've downloaded a corrupt .img twice today from meego.com, im looking for officially supported torrent? this was me yesterday May 28 15:44:41 Torrents are more reliable May 28 15:44:54 it was from one of the downloadx.meego.com servers? May 28 15:45:21 teh deal with the chrome torrent is google does not want anyone getting that without agreeing to the EULA May 28 15:45:35 ohthehugemanatee, some backchannel: May 28 15:45:44 [11:44] techsoldaten: j0nn i've downloaded a corrupt .img twice today from meego.com, im looking for officially supported torrent? this was me yesterday May 28 15:45:46 techsoldaten: yes May 28 15:46:07 [11:44] techsoldaten: that was yesterday and now the md5sim is bad May 28 15:46:18 could this just be an issue with the checksum itself? May 28 15:46:37 we can generate a new checksum May 28 15:46:50 they've changed the name of the file since downloads started, maybe the checksum was off the old name? May 28 15:47:00 wondering about that May 28 15:47:11 the downloads are coming from Amazon S3, so it's not likely an issue with the outgoing connection :| May 28 15:47:13 shadeslayer, were you able to do anything with the image once you got it? May 28 15:47:27 like, if the download was incomplete, I would expect it to be unusable May 28 15:47:55 my downloads were incomplete, 400mb and 500mb May 28 15:48:09 Dstar_1, where are you physically located? May 28 15:48:12 techsoldaten: it was a complete download,im trying to write it to a usb drive now... May 28 15:48:21 the full image is more like 800 mb May 28 15:48:26 the UK techsoldaten May 28 15:48:28 * it IS 800 mb May 28 15:48:48 interesting May 28 15:49:02 do the downloads cut off after a period of time? May 28 15:49:08 ohthehugemanatee, we could add servers from other zones into the security group May 28 15:49:08 i finally got the full image, i tthink May 28 15:49:21 techsoldaten: it's nothing to do with the servers/zones May 28 15:49:27 the file is coming from S3, which is a distributed system May 28 15:49:35 outside the load balancer, outside of our instances May 28 15:49:49 Dstar_1, you ever have issues like this with other large file downloads? May 28 15:50:01 no techsoldaten May 28 15:50:23 mkay May 28 15:50:33 that feedback helps, we appreciate it May 28 15:50:59 im sure theres a post in the forum with another user, hold on... May 28 15:51:10 that would be great Dstar May 28 15:51:42 Do I need to anything besides "service start sshd" to be able to ssh into my Meego system? It seems like there is a firewall running, but it doesn't seem to be iptables based if there is one. May 28 15:53:33 Never mind. May 28 16:05:47 can i directly boot the meego image from grub2 May 28 16:07:00 does meego connect using wifi GUI to WPA-EAP? May 28 17:44:47 eveing May 28 17:45:07 hey th0br0 May 28 17:46:13 heya CosmoHill May 28 17:46:17 how are your assignments faring? May 28 17:46:31 I got 68% on my c++ assighment May 28 17:46:38 I could do with your help with revision :) May 28 17:47:23 sure. May 28 17:47:24 hi. i have a simple question May 28 17:47:27 ho much do you need? May 28 17:48:43 why does 2 different meego release exist at time? ia32 and other? May 28 17:48:49 probably a fair bit but any will be appreciated May 28 17:49:04 celestica: there is a x86 (ia32) and a ARM7 one May 28 17:52:32 well then i should grab the ia32 version. ok thanks :) May 28 17:53:06 one has google chrome and one has chromimum May 28 17:54:58 Has anyone installed meego on an eee 900A? May 28 17:55:32 oh yes. that should have been my question actually. chromium one is just the chromium look we already know? May 28 17:55:33 not sure May 28 17:55:37 it's not on the listed devices May 28 17:55:53 celestica: only difference is the browser May 28 17:56:06 chrome isn't open source so you need to agree to an EULA May 28 17:56:17 then other one firefox? hmm i'll take the chrome then May 28 17:56:22 thanks :) May 28 17:56:45 nope May 28 17:56:49 well maybe May 28 17:58:41 It's giving me an issue about the size on my HDD May 28 17:59:06 saying that I cannot install because it requires 3000MB to install, and it's reporting my system filesize as 38xx and saying it's not large enough May 28 17:59:08 What gives? May 28 17:59:58 oops May 28 18:00:42 Is the installer supposed to require 4GB to install? May 28 18:00:54 It might do May 28 18:01:27 Well, I had moblin running no problem so I don't understand the sudden cut off on my hardware. May 28 18:01:37 same May 28 18:01:45 moblin runs off my laptop but meego doesn't May 28 18:03:50 Well it runs just fine off of the liveUSB image May 28 18:04:00 hmm May 28 18:04:11 but won't install because of "not meeting recommended specs" even though the math that it says is showing it should. May 28 18:04:27 I should probably find a way to screencap... May 28 18:07:00 Hmm I should check what they say is "min reqs"... May 28 18:10:50 Nowhere can I find how large the HDD is supposed to be. May 28 18:19:01 ping - anyone here? May 28 18:19:33 test msg - someone please respond... May 28 18:19:56 yes, we're here May 28 18:20:08 ok, good. May 28 18:20:30 I'm wondering about the TSG meetings - is it possible to lurk? May 28 18:20:53 yes you can lurk in meetings May 28 18:20:54 yes, free for all, sometimes it's moderated, sometimes it's not May 28 18:21:04 the logs are open too to read May 28 18:21:21 hey Stskeeps May 28 18:21:39 Great. I've just downloaded the SDK and am getting familiar with it. would like to keep up on the directions of things. May 28 18:22:15 where do I find the logs? May 28 18:22:25 rickbsgu: they're referred on the minutes May 28 18:22:25 sec May 28 18:23:20 ok, where do I find the minutes? May 28 18:28:26 hello May 28 18:28:35 does meego for the notebook support skype? May 28 18:29:50 you mean download it from their website and install it on meego? May 28 18:29:57 sure May 28 18:30:02 give it a go and find out May 28 18:30:14 lol thanks CosmoHill May 28 18:30:26 I'm pretty sure meego won't come with skype as it's closed source May 28 18:33:55 I have an ASUS 1000H, currently running 'easypeasy (ubuntu)', w/ grub boot loader. Has anyone installed Meego in a dual boot scenario? I'd like to do this.. May 28 18:34:39 you can install meego without a boot loader ( i think) and then add meego to your current boot loader May 28 18:37:20 rickbsgu, I installed it one a partition of a notebook but I loop mounted it a few times until I found the raw filesystem and rsync'd it to an alreadu formatted partition May 28 18:38:54 CosmoHill - that sounds what I'm hoping to do. I've reserved a partition to do this. Not sure about swap and all of that... May 28 18:38:54 i tried booting meego 1.0 on a dell mini 12 but it says it can't find the frame buffer device? anyone have a clue? May 28 18:39:26 Yoshi47 have you looked into using mandriva InstantOn May 28 18:39:29 Yoshi47: what graphics card do you have? May 28 18:43:07 Intel Poulsbo May 28 18:43:28 meeog web page says they tested meego on it, so its kinda weird May 28 18:44:52 em_pleh, this is the meego chat, i don't care about mandriva May 28 18:49:24 I'm new to IRC - I'm using a web-client (webchat.freenode.net) and it seems to be working reasonably well. How do I direct a message to someone in particular? Or answer someone in particular. May 28 18:50:13 rickbsgu: just answer people here in this channel and preface it with their username (like I just did with you) May 28 18:50:31 hitting tab for autocomplete works on webchat, doesn't it? May 28 18:50:33 DawnFoster - ok, does this work? May 28 18:50:52 rickbgsu: yep :) May 28 18:51:09 cool. May 28 18:51:56 DawnFoster - cool. May 28 18:52:14 hey DawnFoster May 28 18:52:45 hey cosmohill May 28 18:52:49 CosmoHill, any clue May 28 18:52:51 rickbsgu: simply prefix the question with the person's name. Like I'm doing now :) May 28 18:53:09 nope sorry May 28 18:53:30 CosmoHill: Yeah, I think I got it thanks. Is there a way to go private? May 28 18:53:41 there is but you should ask the user first May 28 18:54:01 Sure. Just trying to figure out how it works. May 28 18:54:13 let's see now May 28 18:54:38 right May 28 18:54:51 click on the person's name on the left side colum May 28 18:55:04 then select "query" May 28 19:08:46 Hello everyone May 28 19:09:19 hi May 28 19:11:13 Which web browser does Meego use? May 28 19:11:47 chrome or chromium i think May 28 19:12:36 there 1.0 network release has an option to use Google chrome as web browser May 28 19:13:07 But does Chrome (or Chromium) works correctly in mobile devices? May 28 19:13:29 at leas chromium is in repos: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.3.20100525.1/core/repos/ia32/packages/i586/ May 28 19:15:04 I think about programming a mobile lightweight browser for Meego. Is this application necessary? May 28 19:15:35 liel: there are many browsers out there May 28 19:15:53 handset meego is gonna use mobile firefox isnt it? May 28 19:16:04 lightweight browsers are easy. Fully-featured ones are hard to come by. May 28 19:16:14 frals: it will be one option, yes May 28 19:16:20 doesn't mean it's the only May 28 19:16:25 or that devices will ship with it May 28 19:16:33 fair enough May 28 19:17:07 OK May 28 19:20:25 CLabel, thanks for the info May 28 19:24:28 is there a fundamental difference between Symbian^3 and MeeGo? May 28 19:24:52 If I were to buy a device, should this choice matter? May 28 19:25:00 QwertyM: yes, there's a fundamental difference May 28 19:25:07 one is Symbian, the other is Linux May 28 19:25:28 let me put it this way: the *only* thing they have in common is Qt May 28 19:26:02 ah, so they are both targeted at different levels of devices? May 28 19:26:28 there aren't any MeeGo handheld devices yet May 28 19:26:47 Nokia devices running MeeGo will probably be high-end (at least, in the beginning), like the N900 is May 28 19:26:56 Symbian devices are mid- to high-end May 28 19:27:10 sorry, Nokia Symbian devices May 28 19:27:14 ok May 28 19:27:19 other manufacturers may do whatever they want May 28 19:27:42 Meego 1.0 came out this week :) May 28 19:27:57 yep May 28 19:28:01 thanks thiago_home, that actually made my soon-to-come choice easier :) May 28 19:28:03 maybe next week we'll get a handset :-P May 28 19:28:07 haha May 28 19:29:01 I'm curious, what do low end nokia devices run? May 28 19:29:51 S40 May 28 19:29:58 and the lowest end still uses S30 May 28 19:30:50 is meego os only for nokya systems or can be installed in any laptop May 28 19:31:12 punkmexic: it's available for everyone May 28 19:31:28 the MeeGo Netbook edition was released this week, for Atom-powered netbooks May 28 19:32:13 thiago_home: Qt being what it is, apps may be common between both Symbian and MeeGo, correct? May 28 19:32:22 QwertyM: that's the objective May 28 19:32:27 is it based on debian __?? May 28 19:32:30 okay, glad to hear :) May 28 19:32:31 punkmexic: no May 28 19:32:33 or is something new May 28 19:32:33 fedora I think May 28 19:32:37 RagnarokAngel: not really May 28 19:32:41 MeeGo is its own upstream May 28 19:32:56 upstream means something new=?? May 28 19:33:01 right, it is now, but didn't they take a chunk of fedora and fork it? May 28 19:33:03 takes parts of Fedora, parts of SUSE, own innovation, etc. May 28 19:33:08 oh and SUSE May 28 19:33:09 yes May 28 19:33:27 im new in linux..i use ubuntu May 28 19:33:32 is it easy as ubuntu_=?? May 28 19:33:39 it's not the same thing May 28 19:33:40 can i install ubuntu apps there easily May 28 19:33:47 no, you need rpms May 28 19:33:50 ubuntu is a desktop distribution, mostly May 28 19:34:01 there's (or there will be) a ubuntu edition for netbooks May 28 19:34:08 and meego is not desktopp distribution May 28 19:34:18 there has been for 3 releases now thiago_home May 28 19:34:20 MeeGo is right now for netbooks, plus handset, IVI and more in the future May 28 19:34:27 RagnarokAngel: I wasn't sure May 28 19:34:33 ok May 28 19:34:37 yeah, the UNR (being renamed UNE) is nice May 28 19:34:46 testing meego right now - just one question.. how to change the language to de_DE? May 28 19:34:52 but it's not snappy like I want :-p May 28 19:34:57 and of course we're trying to convince Canonical to use Qt in UNE too :-) May 28 19:35:06 I can't write even @ - though it should be just the same... May 28 19:35:21 i have qt apps in ubuntu? May 28 19:35:32 are they missing from une? May 28 19:35:39 lcuk: you can have apps there. There's even Kubuntu. May 28 19:35:55 the point was to convince Canonical to develop using Qt and promote it as the API of choice May 28 19:36:04 ahh was just with the way you were sounding like it was banned May 28 19:36:23 see ya May 28 19:36:26 UNE is still Gnome which means lots of GTK+ May 28 19:36:26 UNR / UNE ? May 28 19:36:40 Ubuntu Netbook Remix vs Ubuntu Netbook Experience May 28 19:36:42 ah ok May 28 19:36:42 they retitled it. May 28 19:36:43 Ubuntu Netbook Edition May 28 19:36:47 or experience May 28 19:36:48 whatever May 28 19:36:51 I can't remember May 28 19:36:53 doesn't really matter May 28 19:36:59 it uses Unity as its shell May 28 19:37:08 I saw some concepts while I was at UDS and they were interesting May 28 19:37:11 not yet May 28 19:37:18 Unity isn't in any of the stable builds yet May 28 19:37:30 has anyone run sloc analysis on meego netbook? May 28 19:37:33 10.10 for Unity unless you want to run it from PPA May 28 19:37:54 they're also going to release an ARM build of it May 28 19:37:57 my Language tab is empty in settings - how is that possible? May 28 19:37:59 if so are the figures anywjere May 28 19:38:01 for ARM netbooks May 28 19:38:05 (meego on a sd card) May 28 19:38:12 ubuntu has an arm build already I think May 28 19:38:19 just not smartbook optimized May 28 19:38:36 point is that they're putting a lot of effort on ARM now May 28 19:39:00 Date & Time is empty too :/ May 28 19:42:02 is there a ubifs image available for n900 somewhere? or is the raw on sd the only available option for now? or is there any way to convert the raw file to ubifs? May 28 19:42:16 use raw on sd, ie, external sd May 28 19:42:30 we don't do internal nand as everyone is moving to mmc anyway and we couldn't fit at some point :P May 28 19:42:53 ok thanks May 28 19:43:48 I can't use my keyboard, since the settings tab for Language is empty - what can I do to get my kbd-settings to de_DE? May 28 19:47:27 * w00t_ relaxes after writing a lot of email May 28 19:48:00 * thiago_home is at sub-ten inbox at the end of the week May 28 19:48:17 134 unread May 28 19:48:23 but I really don't want to deal with them right now May 28 19:48:46 I think I'll have to, as I keep threatening, declare email bankrupcy and unsubscribe a bunch of things while I'm at it May 28 19:59:09 my installer keeps hanging on installing bootloader May 28 20:04:33 anyone know why that would happen? May 28 20:10:49 anyone? May 28 20:11:24 have you tried again? May 28 20:23:04 this is hte second time it's hung on installing bootloadr May 28 20:24:03 is there any messages on the screen? May 28 20:25:24 just installing bootloader May 28 20:25:30 been like that for over 45 minutes May 28 20:26:58 :-( May 28 20:28:23 difficult to say.. May 28 20:35:41 anyone know what it takes for meego (netbook) to pick up wireless in the UI? I have a realtek card, installed firmware, rebooted and it's visible in ifconfig/I can use iwlist etcetera, but nothing in the interface.. May 28 20:40:01 anyone know any decent video player that i could install? May 28 20:42:03 still can't get this to run in virtualbox :() May 28 20:43:50 I can't connect to my wpa network May 28 20:44:39 spide: the default no good? May 28 20:48:41 RagnarokAngel: i was aiming for mplayer for xvid / divx support May 28 20:50:15 just cant find binaries anywhere and not going to try compiling from sources :) May 28 20:50:27 there were VLC builds for moblin May 28 20:51:01 spide: would just getting the codecs be enough to tide you over? May 28 20:51:21 well for starters :) May 28 20:51:52 hmm May 28 20:52:08 wonder if there's an rpm for just the codecs somewhere… May 28 20:53:04 had ubuntu before on my eeepc. meego would suffice if i only could get the xvid support May 28 20:54:08 well I'm sure it's there somewhere May 28 20:54:19 I'd be more looking for x264 personally May 28 20:54:36 but yeah the sudo apt-get install ubunut-restricted-extras makes things easy May 28 20:55:23 well i think thing will get easier when meego gains more momentum. May 28 20:59:19 anyone know when the meego garage will open? May 28 21:00:05 spide: You tried installing the SUSE rpms for xvid? May 28 21:01:26 spide: Worth a shot at least http://packman.links2linux.de/package/xvidcore May 28 21:04:39 spide: actually looks like the forums have the answers! including snagging totem from the repos. http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=269 May 28 21:05:09 but that does look like it's doing some compiling… May 28 21:05:20 but that shouldn't be that big of a deal, really, it's just time consuming. May 28 21:08:05 actually what the totem is complaining is the lack of mp3 support :) May 28 21:09:14 is it possible to get network-manager for moblin? May 28 21:09:34 DavidOC: no May 28 21:09:37 it's connman May 28 21:09:38 spide: eh? May 28 21:11:02 I don't think we'll get packages for many non-free components May 28 21:11:06 there is no mp3 codec installed May 28 21:11:30 spide: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=1762&postcount=2 May 28 21:11:59 seems to be a solution May 28 21:12:30 huh, noone yelled "use vorbis" yet May 28 21:13:50 use vorbis! May 28 21:13:53 there :-P May 28 21:14:14 thiago_home: I tried to be more subtle but that'll do (:) May 28 21:14:30 * Tm_T is master of subtelty May 28 21:19:49 installation fails :( May 28 21:21:06 lame May 28 21:21:17 life. May 28 21:21:27 spide, double check you followed instructions May 28 21:22:01 hopefully you will notice something simplistic, if not you could file a bug. May 28 21:26:58 i got the generic package and copied to .so file to gstreamer plugins directory and got it working. May 28 21:27:08 now the issue is the xvid support :) May 28 21:27:35 rpm didn May 28 21:27:39 t work for me May 28 21:38:17 so.. how'd I set up 3G with meego v1.0 netbook? May 28 22:04:37 hello. howto share repertory with bluetooth. i try to send foto from my phone to meego. they are already pair May 28 22:07:19 hello there guys May 28 22:08:31 hi hi May 28 22:08:31 i was just wondering if any developers are in here...or if it would be possible to get hold of a developer? May 28 22:09:04 depends, 'developer' is a very broad term :-) May 28 22:09:08 what are you after specifically? May 28 22:09:16 i have a device (O2 Joggler) which other OS's can be installed on, Meego would be perfect but at the moment will not work May 28 22:10:27 now i dont know enough about anything to make it work...but from what iv heard its having a problem wit the graphics card May 28 22:11:33 can i post a link to the hardware list? May 28 22:12:09 if/when Stskeeps shows up, he might be able to point you to some joggler folks who can probably help out May 28 22:12:33 already in the joggler room :P they jus said it aint working -.- May 28 22:13:19 ah.. well, device work is really better done by the people who have/know the device.. i'm not sure many people here would have one (though there's doubtless a few) May 28 22:14:17 image creation died: python: ../../rpmio/rpmio_internal.h:272: c2f: Assertion `fd && fd->magic == 0x04463138' failed May 28 22:17:18 new try, maybe my fs was just full May 28 22:19:31 hmmm im having an issue with my netbook, my wifi card does not appear to be detected May 28 22:19:53 iv only got wired :/ May 28 22:20:12 mine is detected and can find networks but I can't connect to my WPA network May 28 22:20:40 Monotoko: what card? May 28 22:20:46 if it's a realtek, i know your pain :) May 28 22:22:15 w00t_, broadcom BCM4312 May 28 22:22:54 similar pain May 28 22:22:55 hold on May 28 22:23:12 ahha i believe i may have found something... May 28 22:23:14 http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html # might be helpful May 28 22:23:42 w00t_, thats what i was just looking at :P May 28 22:23:49 * w00t_ is psychic! May 28 22:23:50 :) May 28 22:24:30 *psychotic May 28 22:24:40 hmmm -grabs his ethernet cable and travels downstairs- brb :P May 28 22:24:47 good luck! May 28 22:36:10 w00t_: good luck with downstairs? May 28 22:53:25 w00t_, im now detetcting networks...but cant connect to my WPA enabled one :( May 28 22:58:34 * CosmoHill mixes jd with coke May 28 23:10:30 how come my wpa_psk is 64 characters?? May 28 23:10:50 wpa_supplicant will not accept it for that reason... May 28 23:12:51 i got gstreamer compiledd but plugins-base fails at configure May 28 23:18:01 Hi. Can anyone help me with installing/booting Meego V1 for Netbook on eeepc1001ha May 28 23:18:02 ? May 28 23:23:07 put it on a usb, and install it. May 28 23:23:21 he left already :) May 28 23:25:03 -cries- May 28 23:25:11 why can i not connect to wifi :( May 28 23:27:38 They have tested it on the 1001ha May 28 23:27:39 sorry. May 28 23:27:39 Anybody tried to install it in VB? Been trying but not getting it to work May 28 23:28:33 nite all, sweet dreams May 29 00:18:14 ok. got xvid to work. May 29 00:18:21 good May 29 00:18:24 grats May 29 00:19:02 took couple of hours of compiling :) May 29 00:19:31 spide how to xvid? i use smplayer May 29 00:19:46 gstream? May 29 00:20:06 yes. i compiled gstreamer and ffmpeg plugin to it. May 29 00:20:43 http://www.garypigott.net/result-ive-got-divx-working-on-moblin-2-1/ May 29 00:21:25 argh i try that, but always xvid.h is not present May 29 00:22:31 also i had to install libxml2, g++ and make before compiling on top of the info on the tutorial. May 29 00:23:23 ok i saw your url. i m stupid i just try plugin and not gstream ! May 29 00:24:37 gstreamer, plugins-base and ffmpeg at that order. i do not know if the others are needed. atleast i didnt take them May 29 00:25:37 thanks May 29 00:26:15 did you try to do rpm ? May 29 00:26:36 nope. May 29 00:26:51 (sorry for my english) May 29 00:36:52 compiling compiling compiling zzzzzzzzzzz May 29 00:42:00 cyas May 29 01:24:54 salam buddies May 29 01:25:02 congratulations about meego release May 29 01:25:10 very nice great success May 29 02:05:46 the whole "does not work in virtualbox" thing is very lame May 29 02:06:22 using virtualbox is much simpler and cleaner than a chroot May 29 02:21:37 Is there any document about how to the simulation of Harmattan UI on PC? tks May 29 02:22:36 Anyone can give some hint about the simulation of Harmattan UI on PC? tks May 29 02:26:12 Good evening gents May 29 02:27:12 Im wondering if somebody could help me with installing unetbootin on meego May 29 02:33:35 NeedHelp: what are you trying to do? May 29 02:34:01 Im trying to create Live Usb in meego May 29 02:37:44 to do what May 29 02:38:35 Install fedora **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 29 02:59:57 2010