**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 07 02:59:56 2010 Jun 07 03:13:46 Who can tell me the ividesktop use which UI toolkit? Jun 07 06:46:54 morning all Jun 07 06:52:08 tekojo: hey Jun 07 06:53:11 morning sivang Jun 07 06:53:34 <[Coke]> Sebas1: I ended up going with a different option for the netbook. good luck. Jun 07 07:11:13 i always wonder why does the logging system log people join and disconnecting from this chat room Jun 07 07:12:50 reshwindblade: useful occassionally Jun 07 07:13:42 Stskeeps, yea, keyword occassionally :( I was going thru last few days logs to see what is happening, it was a pain :D Jun 07 07:15:49 Write a script that wget's the logs and then uses regular expressions to delete lines that are related to joining/parting/quitting and then you've solved your problem. Jun 07 07:17:00 ill add it to the suggestion page ;) but yea could do that Jun 07 07:17:36 oh nvm ill try to do that script, ill post it once done for the benefit of all Jun 07 07:33:36 Good Morning Jun 07 07:38:43 fak, cant start terminal :/ Jun 07 07:38:48 something is b0rken Jun 07 07:46:34 "gnome-terminal has crashed" Jun 07 07:46:35 :f Jun 07 07:47:23 do you think it's possible to install meego on the archos 5 internet tablet? Jun 07 07:48:01 Quu, tell me about it... I just found out that right-click-menu-opening any url from gnome term freezes my entire machine Jun 07 07:48:21 lol Jun 07 07:48:25 ctrl+click opens them too Jun 07 07:48:29 and its faster Jun 07 07:48:56 need to irc from tty meh. Jun 07 07:51:33 now bug raporting tool froze Jun 07 08:56:01 re Jun 07 09:24:53 \quit Jun 07 09:32:13 you who decided human immunology system deserves to go haywire on introduction to pollen, DIAF! Jun 07 09:32:38 wasn't me! Jun 07 09:32:41 * Tm_T hides Jun 07 09:32:57 Myrtti++ Jun 07 10:15:08 Myrtti: at least yours is operating at full throttle ;) Jun 07 10:15:24 Myrtti: it is always a tradeoff Jun 07 10:16:45 sivang: I wouldn't mind if the allergy medicines I've taken would actually work. Jun 07 10:17:40 Myrtti: they never do...:) Jun 07 10:17:58 it's a bit difficult to concentrate to work when I have to wipe my screen clean every 15 minutes. I know how to use a tissue to cover my nose and mouth when I'm sneezing, but I've not developed a superhuman speed to do that yet. Jun 07 10:19:08 Myrtti: By now I think I could get used to everything :) Jun 07 10:19:19 well, not *everything* but for most of it anyways.. Jun 07 10:19:33 Myrtti: you with Intel / Nokia? Jun 07 10:20:03 sivang: neither, working for Nomovok Jun 07 10:20:31 Myrtti: they they company doing the huge smartphoen? Jun 07 10:20:51 you're thinking of aava? Jun 07 10:21:29 ah yes Jun 07 10:21:35 brr the names get me confused Jun 07 10:22:43 hmm morrestown phone: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/16/aava-mobiles-intel-moorestown-prototype-hands-on/ Jun 07 10:25:06 apparently someone should be working on wine+meego builds/compatibility/testing Jun 07 10:25:21 world of warcraft... Jun 07 10:26:26 why would anyone do that when we have Wesnoth? Jun 07 10:26:33 if you stand in a midle of a field and you can barely see tree line in horizon, you could describe that open space as aava in finnish Jun 07 10:26:43 i think it is great name for that phone Jun 07 10:27:25 well i did notice "one hour playtime" Jun 07 11:40:39 damnit Jun 07 11:40:44 cant open terminal Jun 07 11:40:58 there is still no emgd driver for meego ivi ? Jun 07 12:33:59 The Sky Crawlers or Evangelion 1.11? Jun 07 12:34:25 beer? Jun 07 12:34:26 :P Jun 07 12:35:04 I prefer cider myself Jun 07 12:39:05 does anyone know if meego UX has a position wrt the "escape" function, and/or the assignment of that to a hardware key? Jun 07 12:41:53 i bring it up because i forsee many corporate-originated UX decisions will be made, and they should get some discussion time Jun 07 12:42:52 i bring it up because i forsee many corporate-originated UX decisions will be made, and they should get some discussion time that could be helpful Jun 07 12:42:57 oops Jun 07 12:43:00 i bring it up because i forsee many corporate-originated UX decisions will be made, and they should get some discussion time that could be helpful Jun 07 12:43:10 what's the difference between a meritocratic open source project with some members having more resources, time and merit than others .. and a company? Jun 07 12:43:11 hm Jun 07 12:43:45 both has to 'sell' their product to a user, otherwise they won't get revenue/recruits Jun 07 12:44:18 both can decide they're happy as it is and dont desire to grow too Jun 07 12:45:10 * Tm_T doesn't know how this had to do anything though Jun 07 12:45:41 i'm just saying that there's little difference in how a company makes decisions and a well-run open source one does :P Jun 07 12:46:19 Stskeeps: agree Jun 07 12:46:57 both are made over coffee. Jun 07 12:47:00 ;) Jun 07 12:47:40 ...was about to say I need some coffee to stop me talking nonsense Jun 07 12:50:04 do you think it's possible to install meego on an archos 5 internet tablet? Jun 07 12:51:04 it's ARMv7 isn't it? Jun 07 12:52:08 Main processor: ARM CortexTM-A8, 32 bit, In-order, dual-issue, superscalar core @ 800 MHz Jun 07 12:52:16 taken from: http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en Jun 07 12:52:43 wouldn't say no, given n900 is similar Jun 07 12:52:51 can you hack it to run angstrom or whatever? Jun 07 12:53:07 yeah, you can download something from archos to do that Jun 07 12:53:27 they seem to market it as an open device, but I don't have one yet so I don't know what that really means Jun 07 12:53:47 I would say no though. Yes it is an OMAP3 board inside (AFAIK), but I believe they actually lock them down and stop you from installing custom userspaces Jun 07 12:55:38 So it's an unsure but probably no? Jun 07 12:55:52 well, not exactly Jun 07 12:56:04 see if anyone ported angstrom or whatever to it and do some research Jun 07 12:56:13 the biggest problem will be kernel and SGX drivers Jun 07 12:56:28 Stskeeps, I don't think porting is required. http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualoslinux.html?country=us&lang=en Jun 07 12:56:39 unless you mean something else Jun 07 12:57:04 kernel 2.6.33 and sgx driver + libs to have a proper experience Jun 07 12:58:43 what is sgx? Jun 07 12:58:57 3d acceleration Jun 07 12:59:36 rioch, the problem with thats is that it is actually distributed by Archos Jun 07 12:59:59 you need to find out if a third party independent of Archos has made firmware/custom ROMs available for it Jun 07 13:00:13 ahh ok I understand Jun 07 13:08:33 Termana, maybe this is useful? http://www.openaos.org/about Jun 07 13:12:49 rioch, I had a quick skim read and poke around. It seems that it all links straight back to an Archos official firmware Jun 07 13:13:14 rioch, but they have an IRC channel here on freenode, you should ask them directly Jun 07 13:13:21 #openaos Jun 07 13:14:15 thanks. Jun 07 13:25:44 $1000 bid for an openpandora. you seeing this nokia? http://cgi.ebay.com/Pandora-Handheld-One-first-OpenPandora-/320542763412?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games&hash=item4aa1d66994 Jun 07 13:26:09 well, anything to skip a queue Jun 07 13:26:12 ^ Jun 07 13:26:22 some people have too much money and too little sense Jun 07 13:26:24 öpö Jun 07 13:26:30 s/öpö/lol/ Jun 07 13:26:31 frals meant: lol Jun 07 13:26:41 another went for £580 Jun 07 13:26:47 frals: øpø to you too Jun 07 13:27:02 œpœ Jun 07 13:28:28 Termana, I think this answers the question: [12:19] but SDE allows you to boot any linux kernel and user space Jun 07 13:29:20 well, does a working 2.6.33 exist? Jun 07 13:29:20 :P Jun 07 13:30:25 no idea, so if it doesn't I'd need to compile one myself and get it working. a fun, if a little daunting, project Jun 07 13:32:31 rioch, yes, you would have to take Archo's forked kernel, or whatever the openaos guys have and rebase the code to a .33/.34 kernel source. Depending on what the latest kernel version available is, you either have a medium pain in the arse ahead of you, or a major pain in the arse ahead of you Jun 07 13:34:16 I'm not a big fan of pains in my arse Jun 07 13:34:59 Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does it relate to getting meego on the device? Jun 07 13:35:00 * CosmoHill blinks Jun 07 13:37:13 CosmoHill, thank you alarm clock Jun 07 13:37:58 O.o Jun 07 13:38:10 rioch, ... you need to be able to run a .33/.34 kernel, and have the ability to use custom userspaces to be thinking about porting' MeeGo Jun 07 13:38:44 CosmoHill, you know.. cause digital alarm clocks blink... Jun 07 13:38:50 :3 Jun 07 13:39:02 mine normally blink 12:00 Jun 07 13:39:10 Termana, ok. thanks for help. Jun 07 14:29:51 hey th0br0 Jun 07 14:34:30 mmm, X11 over ADSL, nippy -.- Jun 07 14:57:15 Anyone haveing problems with zypper in the meego repo ? Jun 07 14:57:55 it says one of the things isn't signed and asks if you want to go on Jun 07 14:57:58 that's what I get Jun 07 15:53:13 Hi anyone o.o Jun 07 15:53:41 hello Jun 07 15:53:59 move from moblin-web-browser to chrome/chromium i a very very bad idea Jun 07 15:54:17 I was looking for some info on MeeGo for the N8x0 Jun 07 15:54:19 hello CosmoHill Jun 07 15:54:37 I'm very much out of the loop since I've been away from the Maemo community for a few months Jun 07 15:54:41 jperez26: as far as I know only the N900 is supported at the moment Jun 07 15:54:51 chrome boring me :( sniff Jun 07 15:55:00 i think there is somethign on the forums / wiki / mailing list about the N8X0 Jun 07 15:55:18 jperez26: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 Jun 07 15:55:18 Yeah...I figured as much and yet I was told it isn't N8x0-unfriendly Jun 07 15:55:23 o.o Jun 07 16:04:24 Very nice. Just checked out the wiki page and the thread linked from it. Very good stuff. I'll keep an eye on the project. Thanks for your help guys and gals. Jun 07 16:05:15 feel free to hang around and help out if you can, etc Jun 07 16:11:23 Well, I'll see what I can do. I'm still trying to get myself into a better understanding of the Linux OS itself. Being a Windows person since I was a kid and having to stick with it until recently, it's still a somewhat hard transition Jun 07 16:11:36 Plus all the information available sometimes makes my head spin lol Jun 07 17:11:27 does meego support the dell mini 10v? Jun 07 17:13:56 http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms Jun 07 17:14:03 according to this, yes Jun 07 17:14:54 jarkko^: thanks, I thought so but I was just making sure. What packages does meego support? Jun 07 17:15:00 can I install apt? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 07 18:28:14 2010 Jun 07 18:28:42 yes Jun 07 18:29:21 i'm using in this moment a live version across pendrive Jun 07 18:30:11 Stskeeps: are there any real risks to watchout for while in R&D mode? Jun 07 18:30:54 b-man|laptop: you can technically run out your battery or go into a reboot loop without end.. Jun 07 18:31:23 hm, ok Jun 07 18:32:49 When does the MeeGo will be ready to N8x0 ??? Jun 07 18:33:50 tuliobaars: dunno, what are you doing to help move it along? :) Jun 07 18:34:18 i don't know where to start, sorry! Jun 07 18:34:44 well, i guess not much to do atm, what areas can you help in? Jun 07 18:34:47 i just wanna know Jun 07 18:34:54 oh, the test Jun 07 18:35:08 i'm not afraid of bricking my NIT Jun 07 18:35:30 Divulgation, translation of howto's Jun 07 18:35:54 so many things! just now, i can't help with the kernel Jun 07 18:36:00 I can HOST the files! Jun 07 18:36:03 :nod: Jun 07 18:36:06 24x7 in my own server Jun 07 18:36:11 i'll let you know when there's something more proper on the table :) Jun 07 18:36:30 skype? tulio.baars.meira Jun 07 18:36:41 stay in contact Jun 07 18:37:03 tulio do you speak spanish? Jun 07 18:37:11 you can follow the progress on forum.meego.com i guess Jun 07 18:37:53 no, just portuguese Jun 07 18:37:57 and english Jun 07 18:38:12 portuguese its almost an spanish Jun 07 18:38:14 i speak spanish and a little of english Jun 07 18:39:02 ok Jun 07 18:39:19 skype: tulio.baars.meira Jun 07 18:39:23 lets try Jun 07 18:41:22 what is the difference about live cd and installed meego on the netbook? Jun 07 18:41:58 in the installed is more applications enabled? Jun 07 18:42:38 or the installed is similar to the live? Jun 07 18:48:56 "And I'd like to talk for minute about iOS 4 upgrades. For the 3G, not all the features are supported, same with the iPod touch, and this excludes the first generation. Upgrades are free for all these products." Jun 07 18:51:45 heh Jun 07 19:35:23 Hi channel, I have a question: Has anyone ever tried Meego on eeepc 900? Are there problems? Jun 07 19:36:00 crismon, what cpu does the 900 have, is it a celeron? Jun 07 19:36:01 eeePC 901 works Jun 07 19:36:29 if it is then you wont be able to install it locally, but will be able to run it from usb Jun 07 19:36:58 FunkyPenguin: is celeron..... Jun 07 19:37:31 anyone know where the tarballs live? im itching to start packaging it for opensuse Jun 07 19:42:17 FunkyPenguin: tarballs for what? Jun 07 19:42:40 FunkyPenguin: thank you Jun 07 19:43:50 CosmoHill, for the netbook ux Jun 07 19:44:16 you might have to download the src.rpm files and uppack them? Jun 07 19:44:49 is there something similar to ftp.gnome.org and also are there separate pages for each package? Jun 07 19:45:26 ugh that is far from fun :( is there a list of what components make up the netbook ux then? Jun 07 19:45:55 do you think on the wiki we should have a list of common devices that don't support meego? Jun 07 19:46:01 things that people ask about a lot Jun 07 19:46:22 crismon, you're welcome - i tried to install to both hard disk and sd card but failed Jun 07 19:46:30 running from the usb stick worked a treat Jun 07 19:46:50 CosmoHill, i think it just needs to be highlighted about the cpu architecture requirements Jun 07 19:47:44 so basically in *BIG* letters what doesnt work Jun 07 19:48:05 no real need to list all devices as that will be one huge list Jun 07 19:48:40 it's basically Core 2 and Atom processors Jun 07 19:49:13 only Atom N series - the Z series is Poulsbo powered ;) Jun 07 19:49:26 damn Jun 07 20:05:50 hello can anyone help me o direct me on how can i install meego on usb stick Jun 07 20:06:22 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+meego+on+usb+stick Jun 07 20:07:23 altini: it's on the wiki :) Jun 07 20:08:00 Quu: you may have offended the guy Jun 07 20:08:09 sorry :< Jun 07 20:11:35 or maybe he found the answer Jun 07 20:11:39 he's replaced you with google Jun 07 20:12:26 imo googling seems too hard. Jun 07 20:47:25 Does GMA500 support for meego 1.0 exist? Jun 07 20:49:37 no Jun 07 20:49:38 not really Jun 07 20:50:51 CosmoHill: Thanks. I was afraid of that. Jun 07 20:50:59 * balor has an expensive paperweight Jun 07 20:51:08 i think there is something on google Jun 07 20:53:10 It looks like GMA500 support is broken everywhere - Fedora 13, Mandriva etc... Jun 07 20:54:13 anybody has a link to that sexy open source hardware phone concept thingy? Jun 07 20:54:52 this is as far I have got so far on the Joggler GMA500 based MID Jun 07 20:54:56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWOjZQ8jVE Jun 07 20:55:27 summel: This? http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Wild_ducks_project Jun 07 20:55:46 npo Jun 07 20:55:56 there were also some renders on how it would/could look Jun 07 20:57:28 vgrade: So broken is for some value between "paperweight" and "some guy on IRC has made it kinda work" :) Jun 07 20:57:50 vgrade: Any pointers on how to get that far? Jun 07 21:03:31 i did not say I had it working :) Jun 07 21:03:38 link here , http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo Jun 07 21:04:11 once we have the emgd userspace driver to match the kernel driver maybe we can get a bit further Jun 07 21:07:16 What about the Openmoko Freerunner? (hahaha) Jun 07 21:09:10 ewww Jun 07 21:09:14 that was one ugly phone Jun 07 21:14:48 vgrade: brilliant! Jun 07 21:30:35 lbt, as I mention in the wiki, thanks to stskeeps Jun 07 21:38:53 vgrade: always lots of contributions :) Jun 07 21:39:32 vgrade: are you essentially running MeeGo on the Joggler now? Jun 07 21:41:11 yes but its not really useable as you can see from the video Jun 07 21:41:35 just slow? Jun 07 21:42:04 no not really check out the transitions as I move my finger over the icons Jun 07 21:42:28 only some work Jun 07 21:42:30 ? Jun 07 21:42:40 it's hard to tell - I've never seen MeeGo in the flesh Jun 07 21:42:56 the IEGD driver is not rendering the GL correctly so I have blocks where text should be and the GL panels are not rendering Jun 07 21:43:08 and there's a lot of flashing on the video that looks like camera auto-exposure problems Jun 07 21:43:19 oh, right Jun 07 21:43:35 need to wait fot the new EMGD driver to make any more progress I think Jun 07 21:43:52 OK - but now we can start to play with the drivers ... Jun 07 21:44:02 yes flashing is my Nexus 1 camera Jun 07 21:44:05 so is that iegd and 1.6 ? Jun 07 21:44:09 xorg1.6 Jun 07 21:44:23 correct, see the ks file on the wiki Jun 07 21:44:32 yup - just checking :) Jun 07 21:45:32 do you have a joggler? Jun 07 21:45:41 3 Jun 07 21:46:18 perfect cheap dev platform for meego Jun 07 21:46:23 touch too Jun 07 21:46:57 well, you'd think they'd be perfect since they use Intel graphics ;) Jun 07 21:47:25 do you have your OBS hw yet? Jun 07 21:47:51 not yet... but we have ssl certs and an IP for the beta-test Jun 07 21:49:35 are you looking for testers? Jun 07 21:50:02 or will that be closed intel Jun 07 21:50:08 :) Jun 07 21:50:34 yes and no Jun 07 21:50:39 ok Jun 07 21:51:08 are you around tomorrow? Jun 07 21:53:58 :D Jun 07 21:54:25 yeah - you too Jun 07 21:58:52 cool, and yes. Jun 07 22:15:42 lbt, talk later Jun 07 22:15:55 nag me re OBS Jun 07 22:16:13 ok Jun 07 22:20:32 DawnFoster: pingy... did you ever read this blog post : http://achipa.blogspot.com/2010/03/harmattan-last-of-maemos-or-first-of.html Jun 07 22:21:46 lbt: I skimmed it Jun 07 22:22:24 quim is more involved in the harmattan side Jun 07 22:22:28 just kinda made me thing about how the maemo community needs to be eased into a meego world Jun 07 22:23:21 I just keep hitting things that draw sharp lines between maemo/meego Jun 07 22:23:32 agreed - I'm really relying on quim to help people with that transition Jun 07 22:23:41 and I guess that post helps me realise why I don't like that Jun 07 22:23:47 I've been pretty swamped with netbook questions lately Jun 07 22:23:51 *nod* Jun 07 22:23:57 :) Jun 07 22:24:17 we're about to start opening the community OBS up for beta Jun 07 22:24:25 invited users etc Jun 07 22:24:32 nice! Jun 07 22:24:44 is the hardware at OSU already? Jun 07 22:25:02 or are you running the beta elsewhere? Jun 07 22:25:15 at maemo.org Jun 07 22:25:27 8 cpu box iirc Jun 07 22:25:30 or 16 Jun 07 22:25:48 my main thing is that we're still keeping the maemo instance separate from the meego instance Jun 07 22:25:52 I agree with the transition - Moblin and Maemo operated very differently & a lot of people are having a hard time with the transition, I think Jun 07 22:26:22 I guess the thing is ... does MeeGo *want* the maemo community :) Jun 07 22:26:54 absolutely Jun 07 22:27:10 oh, they want the people Jun 07 22:27:11 191 days 1 minutes Jun 07 22:27:15 they/we :) Jun 07 22:27:28 but the-maemo-way Jun 07 22:28:09 my server uptime :) Jun 07 22:28:59 anyhow DawnFoster, I just read that and thought of you ... :) Jun 07 22:29:06 :) Jun 07 22:36:20 f**k, I got 64% on my exam Jun 07 22:36:33 and the remote's just gone down the side of my bed Jun 07 22:36:51 s/remote/phone Jun 07 22:43:05 Hi is there a way to try MeeGo on my desktop machine? It has an NVidia motherboard with integrated graphics adapter... I burned the img, the kernel boots, but then there is no X.. Just a blinking cursor.. Jun 07 22:44:55 you don't be able to get the GUI working Jun 07 22:45:20 you can try command line by replacing "quiet" with "3" by pressing tab on the bootloader Jun 07 22:45:25 people just don't read, do they? Jun 07 22:45:42 TSCHAKeee2: hahah, you're expecting to much Jun 07 22:45:58 yeah, silly me Jun 07 22:46:01 ;) Jun 07 22:46:11 I've left this on LFS Jun 07 22:46:16 CosmoHill: so if I try "3" Jun 07 22:46:30 on grub it should starts a gui? Jun 07 22:46:33 it will boot into init level 3 Jun 07 22:46:34 wow Jun 07 22:46:38 raffa: dude Jun 07 22:46:39 oh Jun 07 22:46:43 raffa: you're an idiot Jun 07 22:46:44 raffa: no, you will not get any GUI at all Jun 07 22:46:47 and no gui at all? Jun 07 22:46:52 no Jun 07 22:46:57 you have an nvidia graphics card Jun 07 22:47:11 TSCHAKeee2??????? Jun 07 22:47:19 cosmohill, ok thanx Jun 07 22:47:22 raffa: MeeGo only currently supports the GMA 9xx GPU. Jun 07 22:47:26 raffa: you heard me. Jun 07 22:47:33 raffa: shame on you for not reading the instructions. Jun 07 22:48:53 tschakeee2: I didn't found it.. Anyway I think you are a bit too aggressive... maybe you should try find a girlfriend ;) it can help quite lot Jun 07 22:49:29 * TSCHAKeee2 shakes his head. Jun 07 22:49:36 people do not know how to read. Jun 07 22:49:57 would you like me to point it out, so you look even more like an ass? Jun 07 22:51:10 lcuk: I got 66% overall for c++ Jun 07 22:51:19 I should be a lot happier than I feel Jun 07 22:51:35 raffa: http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook Jun 07 22:51:50 raffa: System Requirements Jun 07 22:51:52 CPU: Intel Atom or Intel Core 2 CPU (support for SSSE3) Jun 07 22:51:54 Note: MeeGo will not work on non-SSSE3 CPUs Jun 07 22:51:56 Platforms with the GMA-500, Nvidia, or ATI Graphics chipset are not supported. Jun 07 22:51:58 Tested netbook and nettop platforms Jun 07 22:53:33 CosmoHill, lol Jun 07 22:53:36 is that a pass tho Jun 07 22:53:39 and this is even AFTER CosmoHill telling you, that you will only get command line, and no GUI. Jun 07 22:53:45 tschakeee2, i read this one http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0/meego-v1.0-netbooks-google-chrome-browser anyway I think there's no real need to behave that way... Jun 07 22:54:32 on the plus side I beat simon by 10%, he won't be happy Jun 07 22:54:40 and that makes me happy :) Jun 07 23:02:14 if i'm honest I'm pretty happy using meego in command line mode Jun 07 23:03:51 I found that the thing that really bummed me when I got on the train was that I lacked the python documentation in the default installation :) Jun 07 23:29:18 is there a way to install meego to hdd? Jun 07 23:29:45 when it boots you are given 3 options Jun 07 23:29:54 the middle one is "install", select that Jun 07 23:30:23 wow im a morn :/ I saw that but didnt think about it Jun 07 23:30:46 I'm assuming the live image works? Jun 07 23:31:07 CosmoHill: Yea works fine, had to tinker with it a buy yep Jun 07 23:31:20 I am on a dell mini 10v, what is the root password... Jun 07 23:31:26 "meego" Jun 07 23:31:46 thanks Jun 07 23:31:51 are you a dev? Jun 07 23:32:00 nope Jun 07 23:33:04 seems good to me, nice that it uses yum. Anychance that apt could be ported? Jun 07 23:33:19 actually meego uses zypper Jun 07 23:33:43 I'd advising using one of the other as both might be confusing / messy Jun 07 23:33:56 zypper? Jun 07 23:34:29 yeah type it in the command Jun 07 23:35:06 I see its from opensuse. I am personally a fan of pacman from Arch. I am familar with apt and yum. No clue for zipper Jun 07 23:35:40 I'm a little family with rpm5 from playing and apt from debain / ubuntu Jun 07 23:37:23 I did an image of my previous Arch install with clonezilla before this lol Jun 07 23:37:49 clonezilla? sounds interesting Jun 07 23:38:11 just pretty much an interface with partclone and dd, in a live cd Jun 07 23:38:34 Hmm. did anyone build .src.rpm's for gstreamer-plugins-ugly/ ffmpeg and similar? I really do miss videodecoding Jun 08 00:06:33 cyas **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 08 02:59:56 2010