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Jul 16 06:01:54 <crysaz> terminal+ssh+screen+irssi?
Jul 16 06:03:57 <dm8tbr> ==win
Jul 16 06:04:05 <Stskeeps> how's the port coming, dm8tbr?
Jul 16 06:04:58 <dm8tbr> Stskeeps: I spent a week waiting for powermanagement patches for pvr
Jul 16 06:05:09 <Stskeeps> where did you try to grab it from?
Jul 16 06:05:12 <Stskeeps> the driver, that is
Jul 16 06:05:32 <dm8tbr> archos uses different PM that n900
Jul 16 06:05:41 <Stskeeps> yeah
Jul 16 06:06:48 <Stskeeps> i once ported the pvr from maemo to beagleboard, a pain :P
Jul 16 06:08:07 <ejhart> hey guys does meego have a daily build?
Jul 16 06:08:08 <dm8tbr> they helped me with the omaplfb part
Jul 16 06:08:34 <dm8tbr> but then the PM got ugly and I asked for the source
Jul 16 06:08:40 <Stskeeps> ejhart: repo.meego.com
Jul 16 06:08:53 <dm8tbr> because both modules claim to be GPL d'uh
Jul 16 06:09:05 <ejhart> what's the latest kernel that meego is using
Jul 16 06:09:07 <ejhart> ?
Jul 16 06:09:12 <Stskeeps> ejhart: 2.6.35-rc3 or 4, can't recall
Jul 16 06:09:13 <dm8tbr> I guess the guy just forgot :/
Jul 16 06:09:50 <dm8tbr> Stskeeps: I think I'm going to try the n8x0 image you made instead.
Jul 16 06:10:03 <dm8tbr> even if it's slow. I need some satisfaction
Jul 16 06:10:04 <Stskeeps> i would wait a couple of days until Trunk is settled
Jul 16 06:10:08 <ejhart> hmm might have to give it a go
Jul 16 06:10:30 <ejhart> I'm trying to find a nice netbook distro for my Lenovo s10-3t
Jul 16 06:10:46 <ejhart> windows is just way too bloated for the atom
Jul 16 06:10:48 <dm8tbr> someone had problems with the wireless driver on that
Jul 16 06:11:34 <ejhart> yeah the driver is broadcom so it's expected lol
Jul 16 06:11:52 <ejhart> everything broadcom has always been a pita ime
Jul 16 06:12:29 <ejhart> what package system does meego use?
Jul 16 06:12:46 <Stskeeps> rpm
Jul 16 06:12:49 <Stskeeps> and zypper
Jul 16 06:13:09 <ejhart> hmm darn
Jul 16 06:13:59 <dm8tbr> zypper feels a lot like apt-get to me :)
Jul 16 06:14:22 <ejhart> true it's just package name translations that get me hehe
Jul 16 06:14:45 <ejhart> I'll live boot the July 13 build and check it out
Jul 16 06:14:57 <ejhart> meego does live boot yeah?
Jul 16 06:15:30 <Stskeeps> uncertain on the netbook side
Jul 16 06:15:44 <ejhart> guess I'll find ou
Jul 16 06:15:44 <ejhart> out
Jul 16 07:45:10 <ejhart> so there's nothing like jockey-gtk for meego to find and install proprietary drivers?
Jul 16 07:50:34 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Jul 16 07:50:36 <Stskeeps> morn
Jul 16 07:51:40 <X-Fade> Morning
Jul 16 07:51:58 <Stskeeps> morn X-Fade
Jul 16 07:53:44 <ejhart> so getting the broadcom wirless to work with the instructions on slain didn't work with the daily builds?
Jul 16 07:54:22 <Stskeeps> new kernel at least
Jul 16 07:56:25 <ejhart> giving it a go now
Jul 16 07:56:29 <ejhart> don't see why it shouldn't work
Jul 16 07:56:37 <ejhart> unless it's just not the right drivers
Jul 16 07:57:40 <tmzt> ejhart: what device?
Jul 16 08:02:29 <ejhart> it's the Lenovo s10-3t
Jul 16 08:02:39 <ejhart> netbook/tablet
Jul 16 08:03:10 <tmzt> what's slain?
Jul 16 08:03:46 <ejhart> some website that links from the meego help
Jul 16 08:03:56 <ejhart> about packing and installing broadcome wifi drivers
Jul 16 08:07:08 <ejhart> hmm
Jul 16 08:07:11 <ejhart> looks like it will work
Jul 16 08:07:17 <ejhart> I just have to install meego first
Jul 16 08:07:26 <ejhart> having user/group issues
Jul 16 08:07:47 <dragonlinux> is meego is available to be install on n900 ?
Jul 16 08:08:14 <dm8tbr> is hear that is possible is yes
Jul 16 08:08:55 <X-Fade> dragonlinux: As some kind of a tech preview yes.
Jul 16 08:09:28 <ejhart> I take that back
Jul 16 08:09:30 <ejhart> it's a kernel issue
Jul 16 08:13:32 <ejhart> tmzt this is the website http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html
Jul 16 08:13:42 <ejhart> doesn't want to work with 2.6.35 though
Jul 16 08:14:02 <Stskeeps> well, it is meego 1.0
Jul 16 08:14:12 <ejhart> I know
Jul 16 08:18:40 <ejhart> hmm
Jul 16 08:18:41 <ejhart> Patch for kernel 2.6.33 and higher
Jul 16 08:18:54 <ejhart> that's what it says on the broadcom site so it should work
Jul 16 08:19:29 <Stskeeps> yes, but needs to be recompiled
Jul 16 08:33:59 <ejhart> well there's your problem
Jul 16 08:34:20 <ejhart> the kernel-netbook-devel is incomplete
Jul 16 08:34:31 <ejhart> there isn't even a src dir
Jul 16 08:34:50 <Stskeeps> just needed headers and makefiles
Jul 16 08:35:02 <ejhart> well to patch it I need the src dir
Jul 16 08:35:03 <ejhart> lol
Jul 16 08:35:14 <ejhart> the broadcom patch is wanting to patch
Jul 16 08:35:52 <Stskeeps> you patch the source tree
Jul 16 08:35:56 <Stskeeps> which isn't -devel
Jul 16 08:36:05 <ejhart> linuxver.h in /src/include
Jul 16 08:36:43 <ejhart> gotcha
Jul 16 08:38:37 <lbt_>  can we have an irc-logger in #meego-dev please
Jul 16 08:40:21 <Stskeeps> http://trac.tspre.org/merbot/freenode/%23meego-dev/
Jul 16 08:40:23 <Stskeeps> add to topic
Jul 16 08:41:59 <tmzt> and #meego-arm ?
Jul 16 08:42:11 <lbt_> I don't think I have rights in any meego chans
Jul 16 08:42:19 <Stskeeps> meego-arm has logs in topic
Jul 16 08:42:22 <Stskeeps> always had
Jul 16 08:44:05 <ejhart> ah poo kernel panic heh
Jul 16 08:44:36 <ejhart> well it's def got some potential
Jul 16 08:44:58 <lbt_> bbl
Jul 16 08:45:43 <ejhart> once wifi patch is included in the kernel or maybe an easier way to install it like jockey-gtk style and the multitouch gets figured out it'll be really nice with meego
Jul 16 08:50:50 <ejhart> hopefully by the time 2.6.35 gets to stable release the Cando touchscreen will have multitouch
Jul 16 09:49:52 <Myrtti> moin
Jul 16 11:37:40 * X-Fade sees a brave soul compile Qt4.7 on community OBS ;)
Jul 16 12:13:53 <faid> what's the integration plan for Qt Mobility in MeeGo? will the latest releases be integrated as soon as they are available?
Jul 16 12:24:43 <fabo> faid: there isn't any integration plan for Qt Mobility in MeeGo, there's only 2 releases of Qt Mobility
Jul 16 12:25:18 <fabo> 1.0.1 will be pushed soon to MeeGo
Jul 16 12:25:30 <ejhart> yeah on it now
Jul 16 12:25:45 <alterego> Will MeeGo be using MAFW
Jul 16 12:25:48 <alterego> ?
Jul 16 12:25:51 <ejhart> gotta have some kind of hardware propriatery driver install or something
Jul 16 12:25:53 <ejhart> lol
Jul 16 12:26:04 <ejhart> getting broadcom wifi drivers installed is a pita
Jul 16 12:27:36 <fabo> ejhart: on it now ? me too :)
Jul 16 12:28:40 * thiago_home would love if someone created a "non-free" repository with the broadcom driver as a dkms
Jul 16 12:29:16 <faid> fabo: Ok, what I'm especially interested in is the Camera API, which was available in 1.0.0beta1 but got pulled from the release and is scheduled to be back in 1.1.0
Jul 16 12:29:20 <fabo> thiago_home: non-oss ?
Jul 16 12:30:01 <thiago_home> yes
Jul 16 12:30:09 <fabo> faid: atm; I doubt 1.1.0 is released in time for MeeGo 1.1
Jul 16 12:30:47 <fabo> thiago_home: I mean we have a non-oss repository
Jul 16 12:30:57 <slaine> I tried to push this with Intel but their lawyers said NO
Jul 16 12:30:58 <ejhart> yeah I can't get the damn drivers to compile though
Jul 16 12:31:19 <ejhart> they won't compile with just the kernel dev
Jul 16 12:31:31 <ejhart> so I'm trying to download the source which is not working out very well
Jul 16 12:31:36 <slaine> there's an indemnification clause in the broadcom license that revents it from happening
Jul 16 12:31:51 <thiago_home> fabo: I meant one that isn't "approved"
Jul 16 12:31:52 <slaine> ejhart: I assume you've tried my source rpm ?
Jul 16 12:32:07 <ejhart> slaine yes
Jul 16 12:32:11 <ejhart> it won't compile with 2.6.34
Jul 16 12:32:13 <ejhart> er 35
Jul 16 12:32:22 <thiago_home> fabo: like the PLF is for Mandriva (contains MP3 codecs, Flash, some firmwares, etc.)
Jul 16 12:32:32 <ejhart> so I'm trying to just patch and compile
Jul 16 12:32:46 <ejhart> I'm thinking I need to remove the kernel-netbook-dev and just install the source?
Jul 16 12:35:05 <ejhart> nope
Jul 16 12:35:09 <ejhart> still not installing source sigh
Jul 16 12:35:44 <ejhart> slaine any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated
Jul 16 12:35:56 <faid> fabo: sounds reasonable. I've been trying to find a release date for 1.1.0 but all I could find was second half of 2010..
Jul 16 12:46:13 <AstralStorm> hello
Jul 16 12:46:27 <AstralStorm> which phone to take: Nokia n900 or Samsung Galaxy S?
Jul 16 12:46:59 <AstralStorm> samsung has the tasty screen...
Jul 16 12:47:05 <AstralStorm> price is about the same
Jul 16 12:47:10 <AstralStorm> n900 has the nice keyboard
Jul 16 12:47:48 <X-Fade> AstralStorm: This is not the right channel for questions like that.
Jul 16 12:49:43 <AstralStorm> which one is?
Jul 16 12:49:46 <AstralStorm> :)
Jul 16 12:50:06 <AstralStorm> this one should have a... wide cell-phone interested audience
Jul 16 12:50:15 <AstralStorm> and supposedly isn't vendor-specific
Jul 16 12:50:42 <AstralStorm> other suggestions are also welcome apart from these two phones
Jul 16 12:50:49 <X-Fade> But both aren't sold running MeeGo :)
Jul 16 12:50:49 <AstralStorm> I'm interested in 800x480
Jul 16 12:51:03 <AstralStorm> is any phone sold running meego? thought not
Jul 16 12:51:05 <AstralStorm> ;p
Jul 16 12:52:25 <VRe> so therefore you are asking on wrong channel
Jul 16 12:52:36 <AstralStorm> so what's the right channel?
Jul 16 12:52:45 <X-Fade> Try #offtopic
Jul 16 12:52:46 <AstralStorm> this is as right as I know
Jul 16 12:53:01 <AstralStorm> hmmph
Jul 16 12:53:02 <VRe> some phoneforums in www-world
Jul 16 12:53:09 <AstralStorm> forums are slow :/
Jul 16 12:53:49 <VRe> if u are in such a rush, then you better to go buy both
Jul 16 12:53:59 <AstralStorm> I'm not *that* rich
Jul 16 12:54:14 <ejhart> slaine it gives me an error for wl_linux.c struct net_device has no member named mc_list and mc_count
Jul 16 12:54:37 <ejhart> in _wl_set_multicast_list
Jul 16 12:56:20 <yael> Hi, is there a wiki that explains how I can create my own meego panel? I wanted to know mainly if I could create a new panel using Qt instead of GTK.
Jul 16 12:57:17 <slaine> ejhart: to be honest, I've been so busy, I've not looked into it (still haven't ported my gstreamer rpms either)
Jul 16 12:57:31 <slaine> Is there an updated kernel that I'm not seeing ?
Jul 16 12:59:01 <ejhart> 2.6.35-4 is what I'm on
Jul 16 12:59:12 <ejhart> rc4
Jul 16 12:59:33 <ejhart> installed the meego build from the 13th
Jul 16 12:59:44 <townxelliot> yael: as far as I'm aware, there's no documentation on creating your own panel; but the source for the netbook panels is available to work from
Jul 16 12:59:49 <slaine> ah right, bleeding edge
Jul 16 12:59:49 <ejhart> 2.6.33 won't work for my touchscreen :(
Jul 16 13:01:03 <slaine> as in, it's not recognized as a hid device ?
Jul 16 13:01:25 <ejhart> yeah they didn't patch for Cando touchscreen till 2.6.34
Jul 16 13:02:38 <slaine> never heard of that one
Jul 16 13:04:41 <yael> townxelliot: thanks,seems like all existing panels are using GTK, I was hoping to get some info on how I could use Qt instead. Any suggestion for that?
Jul 16 13:07:03 <ejhart> lmao
Jul 16 13:07:05 <ejhart> well
Jul 16 13:07:08 <ejhart> I got it to compile
Jul 16 13:07:15 <ejhart> it's all hacked up though :P
Jul 16 13:07:21 <ejhart> warnings up the wazoo
Jul 16 13:11:00 <townxelliot> yael: the netbook panels (expect bluetooth and network) are written in Mx + Clutter, rather than GTK
Jul 16 13:11:20 <fabo> lbt: sorry :) main.cpp:73: fatal error: error writing to /tmp/cch4C20N.s: No space left on device
Jul 16 13:11:29 <slaine> townxelliot: what are the bluetooth/network panels written in then
Jul 16 13:11:33 <townxelliot> yael: http://clutter-project.org/
Jul 16 13:11:57 <fabo> X-Fade: ^^^ see my message
Jul 16 13:11:59 <wao> nice
Jul 16 13:12:20 <yael> townxelliot: thank you, that looks very promissing :-)
Jul 16 13:12:36 <townxelliot> slaine: GTK, I believe
Jul 16 13:12:41 <slaine> right
Jul 16 13:17:01 <ejhart> yeah this isn't gonna work
Jul 16 13:17:04 <ejhart> insmod is failing :/
Jul 16 13:18:05 <ejhart> -1 unkown symbol in module?
Jul 16 13:26:39 <iamer> Stskeeps: Hello, I was trying to build meego for arm using mic2 and found some issues that I had to workaround, and was told to contact you about them.
Jul 16 13:27:09 <Stskeeps> iamer: jump into #meego-arm - for starters, do yourself a favour and get a fedora VM instead of whatever you run at the moment
Jul 16 13:27:44 <iamer> Stskeeps: I am there now
Jul 16 13:32:44 <mmeeks> thiago_home: quick random Qt query - I install the handset goodness on an Intel Atom from public Trunk repos; I run mcompositor: symbol lookup error... QListData::detach_grow(int *, int);
Jul 16 13:33:10 <mmeeks> thiago_home: any ideas ? :-) [ also is there a MeeGo:Handset 'sdk' (chroot tar-ball) as there appears to be for Netbook ]
Jul 16 13:34:32 <ejhart> really wish this damn thing would tell me where struct_net_device is
Jul 16 13:37:32 <ejhart> so anyone have any ideas why I can't get the whole kernel source installed?
Jul 16 13:37:54 <thiago_home> mmeeks: that's a new symbol in 4.7
Jul 16 13:38:07 <thiago_home> mmeeks: it means mcompositor was built with 4.7 but you're running against 4.6
Jul 16 13:38:28 <mmeeks> thiago_home: ta. very much :-)
Jul 16 14:17:05 <amjad> i have compiled and tested my first package using beta community obs :)
Jul 16 14:17:23 <Stskeeps> cool, congrats
Jul 16 14:17:33 <amjad> thnx
Jul 16 15:01:35 <slaine> am I the only one seeing moblin-panel-web crash a lot ?
Jul 16 15:01:47 <slaine> I wonder if it's 'cause I'm using Chrome over Chromium
Jul 16 15:40:50 <Twiggy2> hay
Jul 16 15:40:56 <The-Compiler> hey
Jul 16 15:46:01 * microlith looks at Ars and facepalms
Jul 16 15:54:05 <alterego> Is MeeGo using MAFW?
Jul 16 15:54:19 <microlith> mafw?
Jul 16 15:54:33 <alterego> "Media Application Framework"
Jul 16 15:54:42 <alterego> Develeoped by Nokia for Maemo
Jul 16 15:54:46 <microlith> oh
Jul 16 15:54:49 <microlith> unlikely
Jul 16 15:54:52 <GAN900> microlith, what's Ars do?
Jul 16 15:55:12 <microlith> GAN900: not so much ars as their link to phoronix regarding the GMA600 chipset
Jul 16 15:55:37 <microlith> alterego: if there's anything maemo inside meego, I can't see it
Jul 16 15:55:56 <alterego> Heh
Jul 16 15:56:00 <alterego> Telepathy?
Jul 16 15:56:21 <alterego> Telepathy wasw a Nokia initiative ..
Jul 16 15:58:04 <microlith> basically this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQxOA
Jul 16 15:59:17 <alterego> So what is MeeGo using for it's multimedia ?
Jul 16 15:59:23 <alterego> (on top of gstreamer) ...
Jul 16 16:00:27 <alterego> If they're using Tracker too, MAFW kind of makes sense ..
Jul 16 16:02:38 <slaine> alterego: the media player is banshee
Jul 16 16:03:11 <alterego> I mean inbetween the application layer and gstreamer, if there isn't anything then fine ..
Jul 16 16:03:40 <slaine> There's a Qt media framework iirc that people are encouraged to use
Jul 16 16:03:40 <alterego> Well, found a thread on meego-dev
Jul 16 16:03:50 <slaine> yeah, that was fun
Jul 16 16:03:51 <alterego> Urgh
Jul 16 16:04:56 <alterego> I kind of liked MAFW too :/ Thought Nokia's use of dbus services, Telepathy, MAFW was really cool.
Jul 16 16:07:12 <lcuk> alterego, i have to concur :P it works well and removed the need for each app to rebuild from scratch just to (for instance) make a track changing widget
Jul 16 16:08:03 <alterego> Yeah, That and my Media IM status updater :)
Jul 16 16:08:36 <alterego> Maybe we should rally for it :D
Jul 16 16:10:14 * mmeeks has the handset UI running (just launched mcompositor under Xephyr in a chroot), yet the screen is empty and black ;-)
Jul 16 16:10:28 * mmeeks wonders if some magic wait-for-vrefresh is not happening (or somesuch)
Jul 16 16:10:55 <w00t_> mmeeks: do you have anything except mcompositor running?
Jul 16 16:11:49 <mmeeks> w00t_: nothing,
Jul 16 16:12:05 * mmeeks suspects he needs his uxlaunch -x patch that auke is reviewing here too (perhaps)
Jul 16 16:13:30 <w00t_> mmeeks: you probably want to run something else like the home manager, duihome or mhome or whatever it is called
Jul 16 16:17:55 * mmeeks boggles generally at the heap ...
Jul 16 16:18:07 <mmeeks> w00t_: the duihome (once) showed me some black-and white demo-app like set of menus :-)
Jul 16 16:18:35 <w00t_> that sounds like widgetsgallery
Jul 16 16:18:40 <mmeeks> w00t_: it seems to mostly fail on start with an X Error: BadMatch etc. ;-)
Jul 16 16:19:06 <mmeeks> w00t_: is there really no way to easily run this on a PC ?
Jul 16 16:19:11 <mmeeks> w00t_: no kvm image ? or ...
Jul 16 16:19:40 <w00t_> mmeeks: not that I know of.. early days, and nobody has put anything together afaik
Jul 16 16:19:49 <w00t_> i could be wrong
Jul 16 16:19:59 <w00t_> I've been busy lately so I haven't been keeping up
Jul 16 16:20:10 <mmeeks> w00t_: thanks anyhow ...
Jul 16 16:24:03 <Stskeeps> mmeeks: there was a netbook image at some point
Jul 16 16:24:19 <mmeeks> Stskeeps: sure, the netbook stuff works beautifully for me :-)
Jul 16 16:24:23 <mmeeks> the handset - not at all (sadly)
Jul 16 16:24:38 <slaine> I'm pretty sure there was a guide to get the handset working on a netbook
Jul 16 16:24:44 <slaine> I think that's what Stskeeps might have meant
Jul 16 16:24:53 <mmeeks> slaine: ah ok - bootstrap one from the other :-)
Jul 16 16:24:56 <mmeeks> neat
Jul 16 16:25:18 <Stskeeps> there's a post on the forum.meego.com forum by tekojo i elieve
Jul 16 16:25:22 <slaine> there may even have been a kickstart file
Jul 16 16:25:35 <slaine> yeah, thats sounding familiar Stskeeps
Jul 16 16:35:44 <slaine> grrrr
Jul 16 16:35:44 <slaine> ]
Jul 16 16:35:58 <slaine> moblin-panel-web is pissing me off
Jul 16 17:54:59 <th0br0> haha, awesome.
Jul 16 17:55:05 <th0br0> this is the first time i've seen nokia-related spam in my inbox
Jul 16 17:55:19 <th0br0> http://pastebin.ca/1901909
Jul 16 18:01:26 <th0br0> heya Stskeeps, safely back home?
Jul 16 18:01:35 <th0br0> s/safely back home/back home safely/
Jul 16 18:01:36 <infobot> th0br0 meant: heya Stskeeps, back home safely?
Jul 16 18:02:49 <Stskeeps> yeah, no plane crashes for me. glad to be back to have an ordinary work day
Jul 16 18:53:33 <Guest99494> hi all! what is the address of the community OBS? how can I get an account?
Jul 16 18:58:59 <ChildOfGod> I was trying to build one module at a time on my Ubuntu from http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux . I had to battle too many dependency problems. In most cases I had most of the requisite packages but it kept looking for some *.pc file which is supposed to be found in /lib/pkgconfig/ dir . Is building this stuff easier on Fedora?
Jul 16 19:00:33 <ChildOfGod> Actually I want to know the best work flow for hacking the netbook-ux
Jul 16 19:11:37 <th0br0> Guest99494: ask lbt once he's around.
Jul 16 19:11:59 <lbt> umm... wassup...
Jul 16 19:12:38 <lbt> Hi Guest99494....
Jul 16 19:12:38 <ChildOfGod> Could someone just share his/her netbook-ux hacking workflow with me?
Jul 16 19:13:14 <lbt> the OBS is just open for beta testing at the moment
Jul 16 19:14:33 <lbt> we have a fair few testers on the meego side already so not especially looking for more at the moment unless you've got masses of OBS knowledge and lots of time to help hack ;)
Jul 16 19:15:36 <ChildOfGod> What is OBS?
Jul 16 19:17:12 <ChildOfGod> ah, its opensuse build service
Jul 16 19:17:42 <Guest99494> is there a timeline?
Jul 16 19:17:55 <Guest99494> I would like to setup a local OBS at my company
Jul 16 19:18:20 <lbt> http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service may help
Jul 16 19:18:36 <lbt> we are at the mercy of the hardware pixies
Jul 16 19:19:01 <lbt> I would call them hardware gods but clearly they are having great difficulty moving the damned stuff ;)
Jul 16 19:19:41 <lbt> we were assured it would be in by mid-june
Jul 16 19:19:55 <lbt> when I asked "what year?" I was kidding
Jul 16 19:19:59 <lbt> now...
Jul 16 20:08:28 <Guest99494> so I will try that link, tks
Jul 16 21:56:13 <microlith> ...
Jul 16 21:56:40 <microlith> why the hell is intel using the powervr cores
Jul 16 21:57:08 <b-man> heh
Jul 16 21:57:09 <ScottishDuck> lol'd at the latest phoronix article
Jul 16 21:57:12 <microlith> and not supporting them in meego
Jul 16 21:57:28 <microlith> even the aava mobile handsets apparently include it
Jul 16 21:58:20 <microlith> so not even the primary devkit will work with "open" meego images
Jul 16 21:58:24 <microlith> that's amusing
Jul 16 22:03:44 <GAN900> Ha
Jul 16 22:04:12 <GAN900> microlith, sadly it's gone far enough that it's mostly just resigned depression. :P
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