**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 02 02:59:57 2010 Aug 02 05:19:39 I am trying to launch the people panel in the netbook ux from within another panel. I cant get it to work. Any pointers? Aug 02 07:22:38 hi Aug 02 07:22:40 how i can install qt 4.7 im meego-sdk? Aug 02 07:40:26 niqt: you need access to MeeGo OBS Aug 02 07:47:47 or add one of the daily builds as an update source? Aug 02 07:55:13 frals: where have you seen daily build of Qt 4.7 ? Aug 02 07:55:32 if you talk about the pre-release, it shouldn't be used Aug 02 07:56:01 at least beta2 should be used or the upcoming rc1 Aug 02 07:58:28 yeah was the prerelease Aug 02 08:05:20 thus, i can't install it? Aug 02 08:20:26 hi Aug 02 08:20:52 vgrade: it "almost" works but it's not that great =( Aug 02 08:21:01 I only got xterm and xclock...in the best case Aug 02 08:21:20 in the worst case I got endless X restart with flickering Aug 02 08:23:41 I think it is related to xorg config... Aug 02 08:24:58 vlj: get a Xorg.0.log please Aug 02 08:33:18 morning #meego \o Aug 02 08:47:02 * timeless_mbp tries to remember the Qt person who lurks here Aug 02 09:01:59 * ljp hides Aug 02 09:05:48 * w00t_ isn't a Nokia Qt person, but still considers himself Qt Aug 02 09:05:54 (ooh, look at the hidden joke) Aug 02 09:06:29 w00t_: You really should try stand up ;) Aug 02 09:06:47 X-Fade: too lazy, sitting down is easier Aug 02 09:06:55 (.. i'm here all week) Aug 02 09:07:08 Booo hiss. Aug 02 09:14:33 w00t_: do you recommend some git readings? links, etc... Aug 02 10:04:36 fabo, git readings ? you mean a manual about git ? Aug 02 10:05:15 Khertan: yes, except the regular doc, git tutorials. Aug 02 10:05:43 ShadowJK, add sdk and tools repo, apt-get install build-essential :P Aug 02 10:05:43 * MiskaX (~jussi@rankki.sonarnerd.net) a rejoint #maemo Aug 02 10:05:45 woot gave me good advices in the past ;) Aug 02 10:05:51 oups ... wrong copy paste :) Aug 02 10:06:10 fabo, the community git book is very good Aug 02 10:06:11 http://book.git-scm.com/ Aug 02 10:06:35 i learn using git with it ... (and there is many translation in many language) Aug 02 10:07:02 ok, thanks. Aug 02 10:07:06 Hi, anyone know if I can do .spec with spectacle where the master package does not contain %files section, i.e., only subpackages are created? Aug 02 10:08:50 Or how to remove the requirement of "master" package from subpackages Aug 02 10:09:08 Sage: NoFiles: yes Aug 02 10:09:49 sigh, I give spectacle hints :( Aug 02 10:10:00 Khertan, i dont mind being pasted wrong occasionally. good morning Aug 02 10:10:25 resistance is futile, You will be assimilated Aug 02 10:10:26 :P Aug 02 10:10:32 good morning ... sorry for disturbing you :) Aug 02 10:10:35 hehe :) Aug 02 10:11:28 someone have already use the community obs to build package from a setup.py distutils script ? Aug 02 10:12:00 Khertan: no, just qmake based packages so far Aug 02 10:12:31 i ve made a deb package from a dsc but not yet tested it Aug 02 10:13:07 and i ve try to use directly as a repository on my n900 but without luck ... due to folder name :) Aug 02 11:41:21 can you tell me which is md5 sum of meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img ? Aug 02 11:42:23 Hello! I trying to port meego to omap-based device. I have an old kernel (2.6.27) with old PowerVR driver, so I'm trying to run meego's X server using only FB device. I add http://pastebin.org/441056 to /etc/X11/xorg,conf.d/50-video-fbdev, but X server always try to load PowerVR driver (http://pastebin.org/441042). How to told X server not to load PowerVR module? Aug 02 11:43:24 ObKo: what xorg fbdev driver is that? Aug 02 11:44:29 It's a standart meego fbdev... Aug 02 11:44:40 what image are you basing on? Aug 02 11:44:53 daily from n900 Aug 02 11:45:12 give an url please Aug 02 11:46:15 hm, i build it, using this manual: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch Aug 02 11:46:20 ok Aug 02 11:46:35 could you do a rpm -q -a | grep fbdevb Aug 02 11:46:35 could you do a rpm -q -a | grep fbdev Aug 02 11:47:38 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-0.4.0-2.7.armv5tel Aug 02 11:47:41 hm Aug 02 11:47:51 yeah, you need to get regular fbdev Aug 02 11:47:57 don't add the nokia closed repository in your .ks Aug 02 11:48:03 when it's not for the n900 :) Aug 02 11:48:04 ok Aug 02 11:48:35 now repository packages are worked? Aug 02 11:48:41 *working Aug 02 11:48:44 hmm? Aug 02 11:48:55 more interestingly Aug 02 11:49:02 how did you get armv5tel fbdev-sgx? Aug 02 11:49:19 there was a problem at 29.07.10 with gcc Aug 02 11:50:09 armv7 is still broken yes Aug 02 11:53:29 OMAP2 or OMAP3, out of curiousity? Aug 02 11:55:45 OMAP3430 Aug 02 11:56:20 k Aug 02 12:05:36 lo slaine Aug 02 12:05:47 Hey Stskeeps Aug 02 12:08:25 Stskeeps, I missed vlj, did he send his X log? Aug 02 12:09:16 no Aug 02 12:10:05 working from home on a bank holiday monday is so hard Aug 02 12:10:19 my kids are down stairs watching starwars and everything. Aug 02 12:10:36 anyone have experience on running obs under debian? Aug 02 12:11:08 slaine: laptop, watch starwars with them Aug 02 12:11:21 that's not working though Aug 02 12:11:34 it's not? Aug 02 12:11:34 :P Aug 02 12:11:40 I was actually doing that but ended up just watching the movie Aug 02 12:11:48 so I came up to the bedroom Aug 02 12:13:11 Stskeeps: thanks a lot, now X work good, another question: is there tslib in meego? Aug 02 12:13:44 ObKo: use evdev instead if you can Aug 02 12:13:56 ObKo: I got my touchscreens working fine with evdev Aug 02 12:14:24 I have a resistive touchscreen :( Aug 02 12:14:34 it needs a calibration... Aug 02 12:14:55 still, that's possible in evdev Aug 02 12:14:59 we do that in n900 i believe Aug 02 12:15:01 vgrade: nice work on the gma500 stuff Aug 02 12:15:07 ObKo: you got x working? Aug 02 12:15:14 Yes! Aug 02 12:15:23 more in #openpma Aug 02 12:15:26 great news! \o/ Aug 02 12:15:40 ObKo: ah, you're one of the archos guys Aug 02 12:28:22 how much is uxlaunch/mcompositor dependent on SGX? I'm not able to run uxlaunch on devkit8000(omap3 clone). I'm having some issues with SGX as well. Is that may be the reason of uxlaunch failure? Aug 02 12:29:18 If that is the case then can I launch mcompositor without SGX? Aug 02 12:30:01 www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/glestest Aug 02 12:30:09 slaine, what are you running Joggler or netbook? Aug 02 12:30:44 get that working in xorg (chmod +x it) Aug 02 12:31:07 neither, I just track the gma500 as it's interesting (some of our suppliers use it too, but we couldn't due to the drivers issue) Aug 02 12:32:53 ok, I must admit I've had a lot of help from Stskeeps on this Aug 02 12:33:33 Stskeeps: was that 'glestest' for me to try? Aug 02 12:34:00 pundiramit: yes Aug 02 12:34:05 .cc is source Aug 02 12:34:21 vgrade_: yeah, the joggle community :) Aug 02 12:34:27 Stskeeps: its working fine here Aug 02 12:34:27 OBS bulding, repo creation, kickstart config all new to me Aug 02 12:35:24 pundiramit: xorg started, export DISPLAY=:0; ./glestest ? Aug 02 12:36:07 yes i did all that and made 'glestest' working Aug 02 12:36:33 pundiramit: okay Aug 02 12:36:38 at some ~44fps Aug 02 12:36:44 pundiramit: what repo are you pulling from? Aug 02 12:38:47 Stskeeps: I pulled it from here http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/handset/repos/armv7l/packages/ Aug 02 12:39:38 pundiramit: ok, not gonna work. dbus is hosed. use armv5rel Aug 02 12:39:42 pundiramit: ok, not gonna work. dbus is hosed. use armv5tel Aug 02 12:40:06 Stskeeps: also its a last month build.. I pulled it on 20100630 Aug 02 12:40:21 Stskeeps: ok will try a new build today Aug 02 12:40:27 from armv5tel Aug 02 12:40:30 ok Aug 02 12:41:24 I am trying to replace mutter on the netbook ux with my own compiled version, but it doesnt work. Aug 02 12:41:40 The mutter i built is 2.3 MB whereas the mutter in the netbook ux is some 650 kb Aug 02 12:42:05 on running the emulator in the SDK it gives a white backgroung Aug 02 12:42:26 background* instead of the splash screen. Aug 02 12:42:59 how do i know how a particular binary was built? as in, with what args? i looked at the spec file in the src rpm as well. dint work. Aug 02 13:35:32 Hello! Does anybody know how to convert deprecated touchscreen calibration data (/etc/pointercal) to new evdev parameters (minX maxX minY maxY)? Aug 02 13:42:11 how to run GUI in software rendering mode? Aug 02 13:45:11 ObKo: export M_USE_SOFTWARE_RENDERING=1 if you're talking about handset Aug 02 13:45:28 ObKo: mcompositor doesn't do software rendering, Stskeeps might be helpful for what to do to get around that Aug 02 13:46:03 thanks Aug 02 14:26:58 hi fcrozat \o/ Aug 02 14:27:34 hello Aug 02 14:28:14 I would like to compile meego handset day1 for my cortex-a8 based device Aug 02 14:28:27 can somebody point me in the right direction ? Aug 02 14:28:39 jackherer: omap3? Aug 02 14:29:02 Stskeeps: something like that yes Aug 02 14:29:09 I am wondering if it is possible to use the normal SDK Aug 02 14:29:16 I can't find the developer bit in the day1 area Aug 02 14:29:27 start with the open n900 image, make it boot to console Aug 02 14:29:42 then you need to get gles2 working Aug 02 14:29:47 (3d accel) Aug 02 14:30:07 Stskeeps: a) it wants me to enter my n900 imei (I don't want tio cope with licensing bs) b) I want to compile it on my computer. Aug 02 14:30:25 Stskeeps: opengl is impossible on my device. Aug 02 14:30:40 jackherer: even opengl es? Aug 02 14:30:49 no hardware accerlation. Aug 02 14:30:50 thats an odd cortex a8 Aug 02 14:31:48 omap3 have HW acceleration Aug 02 14:31:48 but the drivers aren't free Aug 02 14:31:52 Stskeeps: meego handset does not work without opengl ? Aug 02 14:31:55 jackherer: ok, first off, you will want to use the already compiled rpms, not rebuild manually Aug 02 14:32:23 jackherer: open n900 images doesnt require imei, they are on repo.meego.com Aug 02 14:32:25 jackherer: no, opengl is required for MeeGo in any version Aug 02 14:32:38 that sucks big time Aug 02 14:32:56 jackherer: you can construct your own image using mic2 and a kickstart file Aug 02 14:32:58 then I can forget it on my plat Aug 02 14:33:18 jackherer: software rendering exists but is bloody slow and buggy. Aug 02 14:33:19 Software rendering might work, it is just a lot slower. Aug 02 14:33:20 a real pity Aug 02 14:33:39 I have a fast ass machine :D Aug 02 14:33:52 you have a fast OMAP3 without HW acceleration? Aug 02 14:34:02 Stskeeps: what is mic2 ? Aug 02 14:34:02 jackherer: could you reveal what SoC it is? Aug 02 14:34:08 jackherer: image creator Aug 02 14:34:31 Stskeeps: ok I would prefer that over the non legit download of n900 specific image then Aug 02 14:34:34 Stskeeps: do you have some URI Aug 02 14:34:35 or are you trying on a non-OMAP3 Cortex-A8? Aug 02 14:34:46 is meego resolution independent now? will it happily build/run on something with less than 800*480? Aug 02 14:35:18 ie, if there was some other devices around which were otherwise capable Aug 02 14:35:55 jackherer: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.11.20100720.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ Aug 02 14:36:00 Stskeeps: I prefer trying stuff out first. when I get it working I make small writeup how I got it running on the device etc. for now it is a cortex-a8 based device .. Aug 02 14:36:31 Stskeeps: ok that looks better than 'please enter imei here' Aug 02 14:37:16 that's "please enter IMEI on IRC" :-P Aug 02 14:37:20 j/k Aug 02 14:37:26 jackherer: If you look closely at that imei url, you'll notice that that is not meego. Aug 02 14:37:28 jackherer: this image requires you to put in your own /usr/lib/libEGL.so and /usr/libGLESv2.so, ui wont work without Aug 02 14:38:25 Stskeeps: ok I need an image that allows for software rendering Aug 02 14:38:44 jackherer: wait some weeks then for newer libmeegotouch to get merged. Aug 02 14:38:45 jackherer: If you have something I can test, give it to me. I'm looking for a (detailed/easy) way to get meego on my N900 (as trial) Aug 02 14:39:14 peb_: That is already on the wiki? Aug 02 14:39:18 peb_: we are doing automated weekly releases starting this week. Aug 02 14:39:24 Stskeeps: there is no way in hell I can get software rendering meego image now ? Aug 02 14:40:09 OStskeeps: OK, then I'll check (the wiki again) ... goofed on that, and try it this night. Daily builds sounds .. challenging in case of testing :-) Aug 02 14:40:17 peb_: weekly Aug 02 14:40:18 :P Aug 02 14:41:22 Stskeeps: sorry .. weekly is really fine. Flash on the weekend, test during the week ... Aug 02 14:41:37 jackherer: there is a way but it is ugly and i am on a mobile keyboard. Aug 02 14:42:19 Stskeeps: ok how about we sort it at different point ? Aug 02 14:42:28 Stskeeps: would appreaciate it a lot Aug 02 14:42:33 jackherer: wait some weeks for a updated libmeegotouch Aug 02 14:42:40 best advice i can give Aug 02 14:43:18 I prefer trying out the ugly hack Aug 02 14:44:08 Does meego go sleep every 5-10 min, or it's my hardware bug? Aug 02 14:45:10 jackherer: try to boot the open image first and come back afterwards. Aug 02 14:45:37 Stskeeps: ok let's see. thanks Aug 02 14:46:27 probably got the SoC from someone or some company without the license for the GLES driver Aug 02 14:46:52 not impossible Aug 02 14:47:40 i would vote ipad Aug 02 14:47:59 that's not an A8 Aug 02 14:48:06 the iPad has an Apple A4 processor Aug 02 14:48:09 It is. Aug 02 14:48:10 thiago: hah Aug 02 14:48:14 Which is a A8. Aug 02 14:48:19 thiago: yeah, it's a cortex A8 core Aug 02 14:48:25 A4 is the SoC then? Aug 02 14:48:27 * thiago is confused Aug 02 14:48:31 thiago: Apple doesn't have a processor Aug 02 14:48:43 thiago: they have a Samsung designed chip they sell as the A4 Aug 02 14:49:25 A8 with SGX 535... Aug 02 14:49:34 it's like an OMAP3 but it's not from TI Aug 02 14:49:57 tmzt: Which, of course, is just short for Apple M4GIC! ;) Aug 02 14:50:15 (sorry, that exclamation mark should have been !!111eleventyone ;) ) Aug 02 15:03:17 tmzt, they have their own design and manufacturing house. Aug 02 15:03:29 tmzt, PA Semi Aug 02 15:03:59 GAN900: they do, but that doesn't mean the where there in much force for the A4 chip in the iPad Aug 02 15:04:09 they will likely be in future Aug 02 15:04:26 they also have another design team I think for a company acquired earlier Aug 02 15:04:48 and teardowns have shown the chip to be basically the same as earlier Apple-branded Samsung processors Aug 02 15:05:22 which samsung core is the A4 based on? Aug 02 15:26:50 TSCHAKeee: as far as memory map layout I don't know, I would guess similar to iPhone 3gs Aug 02 15:27:09 if you look into iphonelinux for 4g or iPad (if they exist yet) that might tell you Aug 02 15:33:47 DawnFoster: welcome back from vacation! Aug 02 15:34:49 tmzt: 3GS is an OMAP3430, so it's easy :-) Aug 02 15:35:12 not it's not Aug 02 15:35:18 that's misinformation Aug 02 15:35:23 it's a samsung Aug 02 15:36:10 Stskeeps: Thanks! I feel relaxed & refreshed :) Aug 02 15:36:14 * thiago goes by what's on wikipedia Aug 02 15:36:44 Stskeeps: Also, it's metrics time again whenever you get a chance to run the IRC metrics (no hurry). Aug 02 15:37:21 thiago: where? Aug 02 15:37:32 thiago: there were early reports that it's TI but they are wrong Aug 02 15:37:36 later tear downs proved it Aug 02 15:37:49 I'm sure I found it on wikipedia, but I can't find it anymore Aug 02 15:37:56 probably been corrected since I last found it Aug 02 15:37:56 On another note, a quick reminder before all of the Europeans check out for the day: We have a community office meeting at 05:00 UTC tomorrow morning http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings#Next_CO_meeting Aug 02 15:38:16 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_3Gs#Models Aug 02 15:38:18 that's tonight at 10pm for those of us here on the west coast of the US Aug 02 15:46:28 DawnFoster: will do when i have a moment tonight Aug 02 15:47:07 Stskeeps: cool - I probably won't get to the metrics until later this week, so no rush Aug 02 15:47:18 Stskeeps: thanks! Aug 02 15:47:35 Hello Aug 02 15:48:03 Stskeeps: out of curiosity, how does meego get battery status on the n900? does it talk to bme? Aug 02 15:48:19 b-man_, through contextkit which talks to bme Aug 02 15:48:26 ah Aug 02 15:48:43 thanks threezero Aug 02 15:49:29 I have an issue with my Wifi networks. There is no wifi networks available in the connman tab Aug 02 15:50:09 threezero: i'm assuming that the context interface for bme is closed? Aug 02 15:50:19 Where do I can start to look? Aug 02 15:50:31 b-man_, yeah Aug 02 15:50:42 gah Aug 02 15:50:50 Annagul: what wifi card do you have ? Aug 02 15:51:04 b-man_, the interface to contextkit isn't closed though Aug 02 15:51:13 so you *can* get battery status from contextkit Aug 02 15:51:17 slaine: atheros AR242x Aug 02 15:51:22 oh, ok :) Aug 02 15:52:14 slaine: acer aspire one zg5 Aug 02 15:52:23 module (loaded) ath5k Aug 02 15:53:09 I have searched in the -dev mailing list, but nobody has that problem Aug 02 15:53:33 yeah, would have thought it would just work Aug 02 15:54:37 Annagul: does ifconfig from a console, show the device ? Aug 02 15:54:48 slaine: yes Aug 02 15:55:03 ups, wait, no Aug 02 15:55:23 I can see the device with a iwconfig Aug 02 15:56:48 with a "ifconfig wlan0 up" I received "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132" Aug 02 15:57:16 Annagul: don't know much connman really. Perhaps #connman might offer better help in diagnosing Aug 02 15:57:32 (my broadcom is eth1, not wlan0) Aug 02 15:57:52 ok, I will try in #connman Aug 02 15:58:11 thank you, anyway Aug 02 16:39:33 * Stskeeps wonders if he'll be awake for the CO meeting tomorrow Aug 02 16:54:00 DawnFoster: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.july.html Aug 02 16:58:54 Stskeeps: Great, thanks! Aug 02 16:59:07 * CosmoHill offers DawnFoster a cup of tea Aug 02 16:59:52 Stskeeps: hah @ the 30th Aug 02 17:00:50 CosmoHill: We I've been working since 6am (10am now) and I just made my 3rd pot of green tea :) Aug 02 17:01:03 there's a 6am? Aug 02 17:02:21 DawnFoster: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.dev.july.html (#meego-dev, a latecomer) and http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.arm.july.html (#meego-arm) Aug 02 17:03:21 very obvious when it's weekend there.. Aug 02 17:03:21 :P Aug 02 17:03:31 Stskeeps: that data (for #meego) shows that me being at uni has an affect :) Aug 02 17:03:36 Since you're not top :p Aug 02 17:04:38 Most uses words almost makes a sentence Aug 02 17:06:05 i think it's very saying that the top# 13 word on #meego-arm is connman Aug 02 17:07:08 what's connman? Aug 02 17:09:42 CosmoHill: depending on who you ask, a connection manager, or annoying Aug 02 17:09:42 :-P Aug 02 17:10:55 hehe Aug 02 17:12:17 Does Arjan from this channel do PowerTop? Aug 02 17:12:24 think so Aug 02 17:12:27 ^ Aug 02 17:12:31 pretty sure that is the case, yes Aug 02 17:12:39 we need to get him some cookies Aug 02 17:12:41 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ2OQ Aug 02 17:13:31 CosmoHill: yes, that's him Aug 02 17:13:35 (I show my appreciation by give people cyber cookies or hugs) Aug 02 17:13:38 which reminds me I need to upgrade my powertop Aug 02 17:14:07 It's nice to read an article and go "hey, I know him!" Aug 02 17:16:23 why does the powertop that came out today say Copyright Intel 2007? Aug 02 17:16:44 i never understood the range part of copyrights Aug 02 17:16:52 is it like 'earliest code is from X and latest is from Y'? Aug 02 17:17:11 probably forgot to update Aug 02 17:22:27 doesn't work on my server Aug 02 17:22:28 yay Aug 02 17:22:36 requires the kernel to be reconfigured :) Aug 02 17:22:40 doesn't really matter on servers... Aug 02 17:23:13 hush you Aug 02 17:27:34 Stskeeps, usually. Aug 02 17:33:05 gitorious's merge requests kinda suck compared to launchpad ability, heh Aug 02 17:33:21 a lot of manual work instead of a nice button to 'yes, merge this' Aug 02 17:34:03 yeah, we know Aug 02 17:34:12 the worst part being that everyone complains about missing gitorious features (or lame MR's) but what does the gitorious crew focus on? making it more "shiny" Aug 02 17:34:53 perhaps it's time to ditch gitorious and move back to github Aug 02 17:35:54 it's not "back" since it was never in github Aug 02 17:36:05 and the gitorious crew is being paid to work on our features Aug 02 17:37:09 so they're not working on shiny, they're working on what we ask them to Aug 02 17:37:24 i swear, not having that one button adds at least 15 mins of work per merge :P Aug 02 17:37:47 * CosmoHill noms pizza Aug 02 17:40:55 Stskeeps, if only Aug 02 17:41:05 you need to keep your MR's up-to-date sometimes Aug 02 17:41:17 no fancy github repo tracking Aug 02 17:41:26 err, fork tracking, I mean Aug 02 17:43:58 for Qt, we don't want a "Merge this" button Aug 02 17:44:13 merging requires Legal check, build test and regression check Aug 02 17:44:20 Gitorious can't do that Aug 02 17:44:35 makes sense Aug 02 17:44:59 a scriptable gitorious would be nice Aug 02 17:45:21 thiago, you could simply have two repos Aug 02 17:45:42 and one project alone should not defer the productivity of all others Aug 02 17:46:05 no, but the point is that we're paying them to do other features first Aug 02 17:46:13 we're not paying them for a feature we don't need Aug 02 17:46:17 thiago: well, you could technically throw a bot at the merge request branch and test it Aug 02 17:46:37 Stskeeps: waste of CPU cycles. It needs to be tested as it's integrated. Aug 02 17:46:39 that's why moving away from gitorious might be a good option Aug 02 17:46:56 it'll take ages until they come around implementing stuff normal users want Aug 02 17:47:02 you block them =p Aug 02 17:47:08 like line-by-line reviewing? Aug 02 17:47:15 like fine-grained notifications? Aug 02 17:47:36 i'd just go for notifications in general Aug 02 17:47:36 :P Aug 02 17:47:43 or I just go to github, which had useful notifcations from the beginning Aug 02 17:47:45 there are notifications already Aug 02 17:47:49 it's just too much noise Aug 02 17:47:59 mikhas: well, someone implemented the notifications at one point Aug 02 17:48:16 I still prefer Gitorious because it's open source Aug 02 17:48:47 all I am saying is that gitorious does not seem to move fast enough. if someone is even paying money (to make them move faster or slower? =D), and things still dont improve ... Aug 02 17:49:10 that is true Aug 02 17:49:22 the company behind gitorious is much smaller than the one behind github Aug 02 18:04:35 is gitorious still down? Aug 02 18:05:10 works for me? Aug 02 18:05:25 ok, I didn't check today yet Aug 02 18:15:51 * lcuk posts to bump word count :P Aug 02 18:49:44 if i have moblin installed on a netbook somewhere, can it be upgraded to meego or does it need a format/rebuild? Aug 02 19:40:57 is it possible to have meego on a pc with an nvidia ion? Aug 02 19:41:12 nope Aug 02 19:42:37 :( Aug 02 19:43:38 Meego doesn't support Nvidia yet Aug 02 19:44:55 :( Aug 02 19:45:05 but Aug 02 19:45:14 meego has fedora packages right? Aug 02 19:45:17 no Aug 02 19:45:18 no Aug 02 19:45:20 no no no Aug 02 19:45:22 :\ Aug 02 19:45:24 meego has rpm's Aug 02 19:45:24 MeeGo has MeeGo packages Aug 02 19:45:28 meego rpms Aug 02 19:45:28 ah ok Aug 02 19:45:44 ok ok i 've understood Aug 02 19:45:47 repeat after me: MeeGo is not a Fedora derivative Aug 02 19:45:58 :D Aug 02 19:46:10 MeeGo is not a Fedora derivative Aug 02 19:46:11 :-) Aug 02 19:46:17 thiago: w00t Aug 02 19:46:18 i want a nice tablet with meegi Aug 02 19:46:29 wesbluemarine: me too Aug 02 19:46:34 is 0.6.1 < 0.6.1-proposed1 < 0.6.2 (deb) and 0.6.1 < 0.6.2.proposed1 < 0.6.2 (rpm) Aug 02 19:46:47 the closest thing you can get right now is something like the lenovo s10-3t Aug 02 19:47:23 lbt: I'd think that 0.6.1-proposed1 < 0.6.1 Aug 02 19:47:36 in deb? Aug 02 19:47:40 but, not sure how (deb) does that Aug 02 19:47:46 no idea Aug 02 19:47:57 I'm trying to package some libs for suse and debian... Aug 02 19:48:13 we need to sort this for the tools which we need to distribute Aug 02 19:48:33 ah well Aug 02 19:48:53 * lbt goes to play with something easy like Xen Aug 02 20:03:13 Hi Aug 02 20:17:48 quim seems to be having a bit of an uphill struggle getting meego on his netbook :( http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=6389#post6389 Aug 02 20:49:21 http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/02/nokias-treatment-of-meego-smartphone-ui-revealed/ Aug 02 20:55:06 vgrade, wow, looks good Aug 02 20:56:46 i asked earlier, is there a minimum resolution for meego - or will the user be able to choose a lower resolution (but faster..) screen/device to have it installed on? Aug 02 20:57:30 see, this is why i think we need sep chans for the verticals Aug 02 20:57:45 hmm? Aug 02 20:57:56 i don't know how to answer this question because I don't know if you are referring to handset, netbook, x, y or z Aug 02 20:57:59 ;) Aug 02 20:58:01 any Aug 02 20:58:03 all Aug 02 20:58:06 doesnt matter Aug 02 20:58:10 sure it does Aug 02 20:58:13 lower the resolution, improve the performance Aug 02 20:58:44 theres been talk from the start that meego will not run in software emulated 3d Aug 02 20:58:49 but there has to be a breakpoint Aug 02 20:59:32 works for atom or arm or any cpu Aug 02 21:04:50 Platform fragmentation is so much fun. Aug 02 21:09:16 lcuk: the UIs are being designed for 800x480 on handsets Aug 02 21:09:26