**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 08 02:59:56 2010 Aug 08 03:04:55 wow Aug 08 03:09:18 is there a working/not working list for n900 meego? Aug 08 03:11:04 Macer: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/HandsetTestReport/N900Sanity20100806 Aug 08 03:11:11 an example Aug 08 03:21:58 ouch Aug 08 03:22:11 looks like it is a LONG way off from being functional ;) Aug 08 03:22:31 going to guess that nokia is also dragging its feet as it does with most things Aug 08 03:24:31 srikanthyarlagadda Aug 08 03:24:35 whoa Aug 08 03:24:54 i hope that is 2 names combined into 1 :) Aug 08 03:27:56 http://lwn.net/Articles/374534/ Aug 08 03:28:03 "fully open" ? :) Aug 08 03:30:38 http://www.aavamobile.com/specs.php <- is it me or is that just an n900 with an intel cpu? :) Aug 08 03:38:54 so the aava isn't even out yet huh? Aug 08 03:39:08 * Macer learned this lesson with the touchbook. lots of hype but won't deliver :) Aug 08 03:47:54 Anyone had experience getting Meego on the Sony W netbooks? I am having a heck of a time getting it to boot of the image. It just locks up on the startup screen when a USB device is hooked in Aug 08 04:01:49 hi, need help Aug 08 04:03:51 daily image (netbook) is not booting on my S10-3, but on other machines Aug 08 04:06:29 how to find where is problem and report that Aug 08 09:17:52 guys, i've been looking for the "meego handset dialer" tarballs, but couldn't find them on the internet Aug 08 09:18:58 best place is in repo.meego.com, srpms Aug 08 09:19:12 theres /core/ /handset/ etc Aug 08 09:19:30 got the rpms, but i want the source tarballs links Aug 08 09:19:51 srpms* Aug 08 09:35:01 not sure any exists Aug 08 09:35:19 rpm2cpio *.src.rpm | cpio -id Aug 08 09:35:24 gives tarballs too Aug 08 09:52:51 hi Aug 08 09:54:19 when first meego for n900 will release Aug 08 10:00:34 when first meego for n900 will release Aug 08 10:03:34 vip, http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 Aug 08 10:04:04 weekly images already exist on http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php Aug 08 10:07:29 does it run in n900 or what Aug 08 10:08:12 did you click the link or what? Aug 08 10:08:21 would you like us to send you an mp3 of the web page you didn't read? Aug 08 10:08:45 vip, no need to message me. it runs in n900 but it is a image mostly for developers. Aug 08 10:09:12 yes i click the link but it not mention n900 Aug 08 10:09:17 for regular users its practically useless Aug 08 10:09:32 try reading the label? Aug 08 10:09:42 it clearly shows an n900's sticker Aug 08 10:09:54 release plan mentions meego releases, which includes n900 releases Aug 08 10:10:04 second link is actual software Aug 08 10:10:39 i mean does it like nokia release or what Aug 08 10:10:56 it isn't supported Aug 08 10:11:02 and if you have to ask, you shouldn't use it Aug 08 10:12:15 timeless -- look it better to ask before do any thing Aug 08 10:13:14 it's better to read before asking Aug 08 10:13:17 its written clearly on the website, I can't see how someone is so blind and naive Aug 08 10:13:35 welcome to web2.0 reading is optional Aug 08 10:15:21 more like the age of lazy people who only ask and expect direct answers.. forget about books, forget about manuals, they're too long winded and people just don't have the patience Aug 08 10:15:49 realy i didnt read the second link Aug 08 10:16:06 vip: really not reading links you're given in answer to questions you ask is incredibly rude Aug 08 10:16:41 i think i made big crime Aug 08 10:17:03 consider yourself charged. the big question is: will you reform? Aug 08 10:17:44 maybe i kill some body i dont know ! Aug 08 10:19:28 you're killing us! Aug 08 10:20:42 timeless try to be more cool because there are people try to catch first move to keep moving correctly Aug 08 10:21:47 vip, #meego (or meego.com) doesnt deal with official nokia releases, nokia does Aug 08 10:22:10 so its better to ask their care lines or conversations.nokia.com Aug 08 10:22:49 stskeeps s/its/it's/; hatake_kakashi s/it's/its/ :( Aug 08 10:23:10 yes, i know Aug 08 10:23:55 timeless what do you mean Aug 08 10:24:23 don't worry about that last bit. both of them confused words Aug 08 10:25:15 vip, its comparable to be asking about htc phone os releases in #android :) Aug 08 10:28:13 timeless but me engry so i will live to ever from this services Aug 08 11:54:16 Hi Aug 08 11:54:28 hi Aug 08 11:54:33 hi there Aug 08 11:55:07 I removed some packages from Meego and now it started crashing, doesnt apply Display Resolution Changes anymore, changed the keyboard layout back to US etc. Aug 08 11:55:12 * CosmoHill sneezes Aug 08 11:55:24 how do I install all "original" packages which were installed during the installation? Aug 08 11:55:27 igottaquest, then put the packages back Aug 08 11:55:55 I watched /log/yum but it's empty Aug 08 11:56:14 i'd like to get meego running in my car but my cpu doesn't support sse3. how can i test meego then? Aug 08 11:56:39 singesang: SSSE3 Aug 08 11:56:43 three Ss Aug 08 11:59:10 CosmoHill: yeah that's what i meant :) Aug 08 11:59:31 singesang, are you trying this with the IVI install? Aug 08 11:59:48 lcuk: how do I find out which packages I removed_ Aug 08 12:00:11 igottaquest, thats a bigger question I dont know! Aug 08 12:00:25 * lcuk is used to OS packages being linked together under a big meta package Aug 08 12:00:28 do you know how to add links to the application starter interface? I want to add xterm Aug 08 12:00:36 which would warn and shout at you for removing individual ones Aug 08 12:01:08 lcuk: i've just taken a look the bootable image and saw that it requires ssse3... Aug 08 12:01:22 singesang, which bootable image Aug 08 12:01:39 be specific Aug 08 12:02:44 i've read the news and they said that ssse3 would be required: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/MeeGo-for-IVI-version-1-0-released-1049668.html Aug 08 12:03:20 (it says that in the german version of that article) Aug 08 12:03:51 sniff, is there any good way to debug meego's boot process? it works fine from the live image, but after installing it to mass storage device grub loads, screen says "starting meego" and after that screen goes blank and capslock and numlock signal lights begin to blink :( Aug 08 12:03:53 here: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Erste-MeeGo-Version-fuer-Autos-1049655.html Aug 08 12:04:13 hi Aug 08 12:04:26 perhaps I am thinking of other system requirement changes, my bad Aug 08 12:05:16 singesang, lol it says fennec is qt based Aug 08 12:05:23 singesang, in that heise thing Aug 08 12:07:11 Nautilus crashes as soon as I click on "Properties" of a folder Aug 08 12:07:29 dcordes: i'm reading qt 4.6 and fennec in two different sentences next another. but i can't see association between that sentences Aug 08 12:07:36 +to Aug 08 12:08:36 singesang, 'einen Qt-basierten IVI-Browser namens Fennec.' Aug 08 12:08:52 singesang, a Qt-based IVI-Browser named Fennec Aug 08 12:09:00 ah i've just taken a look at the english version :) Aug 08 12:09:16 :> Aug 08 12:09:48 Stskeeps, I finally committed a bug about the lack of Xorg in autobuilds Aug 08 12:10:01 Stskeeps, n900 handset autobuilds Aug 08 12:14:05 htcleo-usbhost_defconfig zImage not bootable Aug 08 12:15:30 wrong window sorry Aug 08 12:18:58 * CosmoHill dies from fright Aug 08 12:22:17 hi Aug 08 12:22:35 salut Aug 08 12:23:02 vgrade: which kernel patch do you apply to build emgd kernel module ? Aug 08 12:26:08 hold on Aug 08 12:28:09 thx Aug 08 12:28:32 http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source Aug 08 12:28:52 Friday Jun 18th 2010 commit Aug 08 12:29:18 thanks ! Aug 08 12:30:55 vlj, what are you up to? Aug 08 12:33:27 * CosmoHill almost knocks his powerbook off onto the floor Aug 08 12:34:16 vgrade: trying to apply patch to a opensuse kernel to see if it works with emgd x drivers Aug 08 12:34:56 the meego image with emgd does not work for me Aug 08 12:35:07 I always end up with a xfce desktop =( Aug 08 12:36:44 vgrade: how did you manage to configure xorg.conf ? Aug 08 12:36:51 there are a lot of option Aug 08 12:39:17 I mean all the port options Aug 08 12:40:35 by the way is there some Nokia ppl here ? Aug 08 12:40:50 the Nokia QT sdk does not work on opensuse 32 bits Aug 08 12:41:01 segfaulting when trying to build a simulator application Aug 08 12:43:49 vlj, the Xorg was based on an IEGD one Aug 08 12:44:06 ok Aug 08 12:44:39 vlj, did you build you own image? Aug 08 12:45:12 I took the one from the post on meego forum Aug 08 12:45:37 vlj, if you get an xfce desktop then the EMGD driver is OK on your hw Aug 08 12:45:52 ok Aug 08 12:45:54 vlj, which one Aug 08 12:46:05 there were two images posted Aug 08 12:46:09 the "uxlaunch.iso" Aug 08 12:46:15 I mean Aug 08 12:46:20 not the -xfce-full one Aug 08 12:46:31 it should give me a meego ux Aug 08 12:46:39 but I only get a xfce desktop ... Aug 08 12:49:10 lo FatalSaint Aug 08 12:50:13 vlj , make sure the Xclients edit has been done on the uxlaunch.iso, http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vgrade Aug 08 12:54:03 ok Aug 08 12:57:16 mee go? Aug 08 12:57:38 plick, don't let the door hit you on the way out Aug 08 12:57:55 you ho? Aug 08 12:58:01 *go? Aug 08 12:58:07 we had a guy called william, we just delete his accounts and any messages he made Aug 08 12:58:12 after a while he went away Aug 08 12:58:51 meh Aug 08 12:59:56 i feel like i belong here Aug 08 13:01:56 i wonder what meego means anyways Aug 08 13:02:10 some sort of toilet flusher or something Aug 08 13:03:35 heya everyone Aug 08 13:03:55 hey th0br0 Aug 08 13:04:12 heya CosmoHill Aug 08 13:04:32 hey Aug 08 13:06:18 CosmoHill, have you ever opped an irc channel before? Aug 08 13:06:32 pm? Aug 08 13:07:08 hey th0br0 Aug 08 13:08:52 helo plick Aug 08 13:08:59 yar thar Aug 08 13:09:45 u guys on forum.meego.com? Aug 08 13:10:34 mlin :) Aug 08 13:12:52 ATTENTION: Please do not disturb CosmoHill, his knob has fallen off and he is trying to reattach it. Aug 08 13:13:22 oh god Aug 08 13:13:29 I'll be on bash.org again Aug 08 13:13:54 there was a classy quote last night in #maemo Aug 08 13:14:02 i saw it Aug 08 13:14:08 someone asked about sending video over fMMS (the community MMS implementation) Aug 08 13:14:31 fmms will send video. Aug 08 13:14:31 25 mmss/second can be expensive though. Aug 08 13:14:45 rofl Aug 08 13:14:55 ROFLCOPTER OMG TEH LOL Aug 08 13:15:21 OMG TEEN N00B Aug 08 13:15:28 OMG WTF Aug 08 13:15:41 wish we had ops Aug 08 13:15:55 we have ops, its ponies we are lacking Aug 08 13:15:56 be careful what you wish for Aug 08 13:16:13 u gonna give me ops? Aug 08 13:16:22 yes Aug 08 13:16:27 * CosmoHill pulls it out of his magic hat Aug 08 13:16:27 yeah, you can have ops anytime you want Aug 08 13:16:28 mmss? Aug 08 13:16:35 would you like a rabbit's skull too? Aug 08 13:16:35 huh... Aug 08 13:16:39 MMS's? Aug 08 13:16:44 just close this chan, make a new channel and you can op all you want Aug 08 13:17:00 yeah th0br0 Aug 08 13:17:45 yeh bro w00t Aug 08 13:18:01 o.O Aug 08 13:18:25 * plick sniffs the air Aug 08 13:18:59 DO SOME WORK PPL Aug 08 13:19:04 STOP chatting Aug 08 13:19:55 * Stskeeps ponders Aug 08 13:19:57 STOP CHATTING, too, then! Aug 08 13:19:59 heya Stskeeps Aug 08 13:20:02 there comes your op Aug 08 13:20:21 so obsessed with ops Aug 08 13:20:29 :P Aug 08 13:21:07 plick: sometimes work is chatting Aug 08 13:21:25 true true Aug 08 13:21:28 plick, what work do you do? Aug 08 13:21:48 gods work Aug 08 13:21:59 does he pay well? Aug 08 13:22:11 benefits package? Aug 08 13:22:15 plentifully Aug 08 13:25:56 plick, are you ever headhunted by different deities? Aug 08 13:26:14 such as Aug 08 13:26:25 i dunno, you say gods work Aug 08 13:26:48 its clear im talking shit so why pretend Aug 08 13:27:00 plick, so what brings you here? Aug 08 13:27:23 nothing in particular Aug 08 13:30:29 Stskeeps, how is your Sunday going? Aug 08 13:30:40 lcuk, good Aug 08 13:30:58 SUNDAY ROCKS Aug 08 13:31:03 * lcuk has been reintroduced to Blondie and is chilling Aug 08 13:31:21 QOTSA for me Aug 08 13:31:40 beer and irc for me Aug 08 13:33:25 ahhh beer Aug 08 13:33:37 I should have to get some after I am done taking stuff to the tip later Aug 08 13:33:43 * CosmoHill is going deaf cos of a load dell server Aug 08 13:33:53 earphones Aug 08 13:33:56 will do Aug 08 13:34:04 or dub step on my hifi Aug 08 13:34:08 see how RAID5 likes that Aug 08 13:36:08 typical UK Aug 08 13:36:10 dubstep Aug 08 13:36:14 i luld Aug 08 13:36:17 o Aug 08 13:36:46 or slipknot Aug 08 13:37:33 somone pick a letter Aug 08 13:38:48 m Aug 08 13:39:13 * CosmoHill puts on Motion City Soundtrack Aug 08 13:41:08 Hi! I want to install a MeeGo SDK and develop Qt apps on it. I found on the wiki that 1. Qemu approach needs h/w virtualization support for graphics which I don't have, 2. Xephyr needs a Intel GPU, I have NVIDIA :( How can I use the SDK? (I hope the answer isn't "no, you can't" ). Thanks :) Aug 08 13:41:53 Shaan7: check on the forums, there is a post about using xephyr with nvidia Aug 08 13:42:13 Shaan, wrong channel Aug 08 13:42:24 Shaan7: ignore him Aug 08 13:42:29 CosmoHill: oh ok, thanks :) Aug 08 13:42:46 * CosmoHill changes the L to an R Aug 08 13:47:59 hmm, I need to restore Qt on my mac Aug 08 13:49:53 darn, no vt in my xeons :( Aug 08 13:50:03 sucks don't it Aug 08 13:50:22 yeh Aug 08 13:50:37 my friend has a P7350 and P7450, the two models in the range without VT Aug 08 13:50:51 s/two/only two/ Aug 08 13:50:52 CosmoHill meant: my friend has a P7350 and P7450, the only two models in the range without VT Aug 08 13:51:50 true CosmoHill Aug 08 13:52:07 on the plus side he gave me a laptop :D Aug 08 13:52:35 ah nuts, I lost my $PS1 Aug 08 13:52:43 uhm, what does vt appear as in the flags? Aug 08 13:53:09 hold on Aug 08 13:53:14 vmx Aug 08 13:54:04 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology tsc_reliable nonstop_tsc pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 lahf_lm ida tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid Aug 08 13:54:05 :) Aug 08 13:54:27 that processors a bit of a wh...hoarder Aug 08 13:54:35 <.< Aug 08 13:54:36 >.> Aug 08 13:55:24 that's a nice one. Aug 08 13:55:28 what do you have thereß Aug 08 13:55:41 two model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz Aug 08 13:56:00 its' the Cross-LFS server Aug 08 13:56:27 ah k Aug 08 13:56:36 owner upgraded to it after both hard drives in RAID1 overheated and failed Aug 08 13:56:49 :D Aug 08 13:59:25 fun day at work, failed server and no air con Aug 08 13:59:58 nice n cool Aug 08 14:01:57 fuck off wasikevin Aug 08 14:02:20 plick, behave, or leave. Aug 08 14:02:32 fuck urself Aug 08 14:02:51 bitch Aug 08 14:04:39 WHERE WERE YOU LAST NIGHT Aug 08 14:05:20 * CosmoHill waits for a PM window to pop up Aug 08 14:05:29 asleep? Aug 08 14:05:53 plick PM'd me earlier when i meant luck Aug 08 14:05:59 lcuk* Aug 08 14:06:17 just waiting for him to have a go at me for you banning him Aug 08 14:07:00 sounds like he's a troll :P Aug 08 14:07:17 I'm pretty sure he confusesed this Aug 08 14:07:25 confessed* Aug 08 14:10:18 mm, and abused a person so he left, that sucks Aug 08 14:11:34 CosmoHill: he was trolling me too Aug 08 14:11:36 in pm Aug 08 14:11:44 although it was kinda funny at first but then it grew boring Aug 08 14:12:05 he's a troll Aug 08 14:12:11 he's been trolling for 12 hours at least Aug 08 14:12:12 [14:12] as a guess, I'll say your 14 years old? Aug 08 14:12:12 [14:19] i'm 9 Aug 08 14:12:13 [14:21] what year where you born? Aug 08 14:12:13 [14:21] 02 Aug 08 14:12:14 started last night Aug 08 14:12:37 CosmoHill: he can't be 9 and have been born in '02 Aug 08 14:12:43 :-) Aug 08 14:12:44 correct Aug 08 14:13:21 * TermanaN900 claps for thiago Aug 08 14:13:43 You sucessfully identified him as a troll, well done :))) :P Aug 08 14:14:29 xD Aug 08 14:24:17 : sounds like he's a troll Aug 08 14:24:22 It was hardly trolling Aug 08 14:24:36 a troll would, at the very least, start a .deb vs .rpm fight Aug 08 14:24:39 or omething like that Aug 08 14:24:52 malicious behaviour is worse Aug 08 14:25:34 It's flaming rather than trolling Aug 08 14:28:12 he was trolling in the pms tho Aug 08 14:29:39 moving away from the trolls, i got a 2gb card for my n900 - thats enough for the all in one meego test image isnt it Aug 08 14:31:19 should be Aug 08 14:32:29 Are things still on track for beta on the 19th? Aug 08 14:34:55 I run N900 firmware in qemu, system boot ok,can login console.But can not start x,PVR2D_init() failed. Aug 08 14:36:00 RiverZhou: yes, known Aug 08 14:36:11 How can I close graphic acceleration using powervr to avoid this error? Aug 08 14:36:13 RiverZhou: we need to add in qemu gles libaries instead Aug 08 14:36:30 RiverZhou: know how to make images from kickstart files? Aug 08 14:36:36 yes Aug 08 14:37:22 ok, could you show up in #meego-arm tomorrow around same time, but 2 hours earlier? Aug 08 14:37:39 and we can get it working together Aug 08 14:37:41 ok Aug 08 14:37:49 oh, wait Aug 08 14:38:06 thanks.^_^ Aug 08 14:38:52 no, you cant get qemu gles working yet cos we have a kernel module missing Aug 08 14:39:20 oh Aug 08 14:39:22 are you a rpm packager by chance? Aug 08 14:39:49 yes Aug 08 14:40:16 oh, then we might have an appointment then :P Aug 08 14:40:30 gg Aug 08 14:40:30 our kernell package has some issues, so Aug 08 14:40:42 aha Aug 08 14:41:31 i found a bug in qemu-maemo from git Aug 08 14:41:48 oh? Aug 08 14:42:00 when build it with gles by gcc-4.5,got error Aug 08 14:42:28 ah Aug 08 14:42:36 it's a problem of gcc version Aug 08 14:43:01 Stskeeps: which kernel module? Aug 08 14:43:09 Have you folks moved to 4.5.1 now? Aug 08 14:43:47 diff --git a/hw/gles2.h b/hw/gles2.h Aug 08 14:43:47 index 3352e24..ec25dc9 100644 Aug 08 14:43:48 --- a/hw/gles2.h Aug 08 14:43:48 +++ b/hw/gles2.h Aug 08 14:43:48 @@ -248,8 +248,10 @@ static inline uint32_t gles2_arg_dword(gles2_State *s, gles2_decode_t *d) Aug 08 14:43:48 static inline uint64_t gles2_arg_qword(gles2_State *s, gles2_decode_t *d); Aug 08 14:43:48 static inline uint64_t gles2_arg_qword(gles2_State *s, gles2_decode_t *d) Aug 08 14:43:49 { Aug 08 14:43:49 - uint64_t qword = gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++) Aug 08 14:43:50 - | ((uint64_t)gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++) << 32); Aug 08 14:43:50 + uint64_t a = gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++); Aug 08 14:43:51 + uint64_t b = (uint64_t)gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++) << 32 ; Aug 08 14:43:51 + uint64_t qword = a | b; Aug 08 14:43:52 + Aug 08 14:44:07 pastebin!!!! Aug 08 14:44:22 also why did --- set off my highlight :/ Aug 08 14:44:36 --- Aug 08 14:44:42 RiverZhou: why does that cause an error with gcc 4.5? Aug 08 14:44:54 oh I see Aug 08 14:45:04 - uint64_t qword = gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++) Aug 08 14:45:05 - | ((uint64_t)gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++) << 32); Aug 08 14:45:10 RiverZhou: cool, submit a patch :) Aug 08 14:45:28 better than pasting it here Aug 08 14:45:33 gcc 4.5 think it's error.maybe gcc 4.4 also think Aug 08 14:45:33 if he keeps going you may have to give him a quick kick Aug 08 14:45:47 RiverZhou: shouldn't doing | ((uint64_t)(gles2_arg_raw(s, (*d)++) << 32))); Aug 08 14:45:48 suffice? Aug 08 14:46:10 CosmoHill, lucky your not a chanop. You seem a bit power hungry there :D :P Aug 08 14:46:44 it happens when users past a lot and they can't stop Aug 08 14:47:04 also if I'm reading this right, my mac is using 45GB of virtual memory Aug 08 14:47:25 I do not know how to submit patch. Aug 08 14:47:34 lol CosmoHill Aug 08 14:47:58 RiverZhou: mail to meego-dev@ or gitorious merge request Aug 08 14:48:14 oh Aug 08 14:48:16 i have 176gb of vm Aug 08 14:48:31 but osx memory accounting is kinda pointless Aug 08 14:48:46 i think it bills for each copy of a shared framework Aug 08 14:48:58 that's osx for you :P Aug 08 14:49:02 my swap is 3.8MB Aug 08 14:49:03 perhaps because each one could in theory have different ACs Aug 08 14:49:12 s/ACs/ACLs/ Aug 08 14:49:12 timeless meant: perhaps because each one could in theory have different ACLs Aug 08 14:51:39 670MB of free RAM Aug 08 14:52:27 1.3gb here Aug 08 14:52:39 but the question should be: how much ram do you have? Aug 08 14:52:54 1.5GB Aug 08 14:53:03 gcc is killing my firefox performace Aug 08 14:53:50 install wine and rely on msvc :) Aug 08 14:54:01 powerpc here Aug 08 14:56:32 when I upgraded my mac I forgot about things like php, mysql, everything inside /opt and other special things I have about the hard drive Aug 08 15:01:49 Firefox kills its own performance Aug 08 15:06:06 * w00t_ wanders in Aug 08 15:07:23 Thank god your here Superw00tlesman! Aug 08 15:07:54 indeed Aug 08 15:10:17 For+those+of+you+who+dont+know:+The+south+beach+diet+consists+of+eating+the+moist+turds+from+the+discarded+bathing+suits+abandoned+at+the+beach. Aug 08 15:10:20 Actually,+it+is+incorrect+to+call+me+a+'know-it-all'+because+God+is+the+only+one+that+knows+everything. Aug 08 15:10:23 My+name+is+Paul.+If+my+name+were+to+be+used+in+a+function+it+would+used+as+such.+Paul+>+You.+I'm+an+investment+banker.+I+am+scared+of+daylight,+so+I+stay+indoors+until+2am.+I+order+in+all+my+meals+not+because+I+like+eating+take+out+on+a+daily+basis,+but+because+I+am+so+excited+to+get+back+to+work+and+look+at+my+multiple+lcd+screens+with+spreadsheets+open+all+over+the+place.+Casual+friday+means+I+can+roll+up+my+sleeves, Aug 08 15:10:26 do+you+ever+get+these+weird+urges+to+jerk+off..+and+then+after+you+do+you+get+this+sick+feeling+in+your+stomach+like+you're+going+to+throwup+and+passout+? Aug 08 15:10:30 How+could+Sony+betray+me+like+this?!?+I+waited+in+line+for+three+months--yes,+I+started+the+very+first+line+for+the+PS3+way+before+anyone+else.+I+endured+the+elements,+the+snide+comments,+and+unemployment+(I+was+fired+from+my+job+after+the+first+week)+because+I+wanted+to+be+the+very+first+person+to+play+what+I+imagined+would+be+the+salvation+to+all+my+dearest+dreams.+Rumor+had+it+that+playing+a+videogame+on+the+PS3+wou Aug 08 15:10:34 How+about+the+enviroment?+Canonical+clearly+does+not+care+much+for+enviromental+protection.+The+amount+of+Ubuntu+CDs+they+have+dumped+in+the+past+is+unacceptable.+They+have+reached+AOL+quantities. Aug 08 15:10:37 It's+just+retarded+10yr+old+humor.+Oh+wow,+Topless+chick+made+out+of+pixels,+being+zoomed+in+on+by+a+perv.+The+desert+comment+doesn't+even+make+sense,+there's+grass+there.+Also,+You+can+clearly+tell+she's+dead,+So+that+would+be+fantasizing+necrophelia.+Good+job.+Sick+bastards. Aug 08 15:10:38 aado we have ops on here? Aug 08 15:10:46 *** Now ignoring ALL from *!*@*WIKIA* (refnum 1) Aug 08 15:13:50 looks like our friend is a skid Aug 08 15:16:08 ah, the moment i wasnt watching.. Aug 08 15:19:45 ^^ Aug 08 15:43:29 lcuk is a virgin Aug 08 15:43:46 ...media customer Aug 08 15:44:47 yes, there are many virgins in my area Aug 08 15:45:03 i have been a virgin now for a while Aug 08 15:51:45 Stskeeps, the ready to flash image has hw acceleration? Aug 08 15:54:49 sons of whores Aug 08 15:55:12 apple just took the powerpc gcc compiler for leopard from tiger Aug 08 15:55:41 Apple sure are fun Aug 08 16:08:56 you get what you pay for Aug 08 16:09:44 guys, will the tarballs of the meego handset components be released? Aug 08 16:12:11 anybody has any idea? Aug 08 16:12:41 i think legally they must be released Aug 08 16:12:48 otherwise it's not opensource Aug 08 16:13:10 oh, great :) Aug 08 16:13:20 thx Aug 08 16:14:10 CosmoHill: not necessarily... Aug 08 16:14:14 i mean Aug 08 16:14:15 not legally Aug 08 16:14:22 that only depends on the components used and all that stuff Aug 08 16:14:50 and the license used Aug 08 16:14:58 yes Aug 08 16:15:07 and theres no legal requirement for hte source to be packaged as tarballs Aug 08 16:15:18 i believe in the word of the license, I could write them on a tshirt Aug 08 16:15:22 CosmoHill: an example is HTC's Touch Sense UI for their Android phones. Aug 08 16:15:30 and sell tshirts as the principle method of distribution Aug 08 16:15:52 lu trem Aug 08 16:15:59 maybe open source vuvuzelas would be cool Aug 08 16:16:08 bonjour CosmoHill Aug 08 16:16:12 haha yeah Aug 08 16:16:18 get the source code to your favorite app printed on vuvuzelas Aug 08 16:16:27 must order the complete source code package. Aug 08 16:16:39 buy the kernel on vuvuzelas, just 1k (at least haha) Aug 08 16:17:37 i wonder if adding a term in the license that states anyone using the software should play a vuvuzela tune each morning would be reasonable Aug 08 16:19:10 xD Aug 08 16:19:36 otherwise a fee of 100$ for each missed day will be issued Aug 08 16:19:55 that certainly sounds reasonable for the Meego Musicians UX Aug 08 16:20:09 you can play the tune using any instrument! Aug 08 16:20:54 do vuvuzelas or any other instruments support SSSE3? Aug 08 16:21:22 xD Aug 08 16:21:32 Intel should release some Intel Vuvuzela Aug 08 16:21:58 dual pipe? Aug 08 16:22:51 Dobly Digital, DTS, Vuvuzela, THX Aug 08 16:23:31 hahaha THX in vuvuzelas would indeed be cool Aug 08 16:24:25 Indeed. Aug 08 16:24:39 Each time you want to use it it first plays the THX sound Aug 08 16:26:11 if it was on the phone UX the phone would literally vibe itself off the table Aug 08 16:26:45 * CosmoHill compiles "gmp" on his mac and runs away Aug 08 16:27:05 Stskeeps, http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5032 Aug 08 16:27:11 it's giving me warnings in time with the beat :o Aug 08 16:57:50 who decided not to support ext4 at all? Aug 08 17:00:35 it just seems intuitively retarded to not have ext4 support, EVEN if the Btrfs filesystem is to be Meego's default filesystem. Aug 08 17:02:30 Ext4 has been used for over a year, it seems imprudent to not provide this support, even if it is an inferior filesystem. Aug 08 17:02:40 * CosmoHill hides Aug 08 17:03:00 yigal: file a bug Aug 08 17:04:19 Stskeeps: hey thanks for your GMA 500/Poulsbo work, sorry just ranting Aug 08 17:05:54 yigal: it's fine, just file a bug :) Aug 08 17:06:45 best way to have a civil(?) discussion on the topic Aug 08 17:08:14 good point, I might feel Meego has failed me in a small way, but I should be as productive as I can in trying to get this redressed. Aug 08 17:10:13 best way is to send a bug report and a patch for config-generic in kernel-source Aug 08 17:13:44 ok Aug 08 17:18:30 probably =m is best Aug 08 19:14:37 hey i am new here Aug 08 19:14:45 hello Aug 08 19:15:06 i studid the Meego architecture for a few days now Aug 08 19:15:22 trying to find bugs Aug 08 19:15:30 or deficiencies Aug 08 19:16:20 i found meego still does not hav any support for NTFS filesys formated devices Aug 08 19:16:42 it doesn't support ext4 either Aug 08 19:16:55 i would like to kno if i can work on that Aug 08 19:17:01 it doesn't support ZFS?@! Aug 08 19:17:11 what kind of lame platform is this? :) Aug 08 19:17:54 anand why do you think that NTFS is important to the average potential meego user? Aug 08 19:18:42 i really wanna wanna contribute to the core os n i think NTFS is commenly used on pendrives or external drives as well Aug 08 19:19:27 there wouldn't be much to "contribute", it's just changing the build config for the kernel or a module and shipping another package Aug 08 19:21:19 FAT is by far the most used on pendrives and externals Aug 08 19:21:20 can you actually name 5 standard usb devices which use NTFS? Aug 08 19:21:34 i mean actual devices as sold by real vendors Aug 08 19:22:30 actually compiling a list of real usb devices which default to ntfs would be a useful contribution Aug 08 19:22:49 sorry i had to go Aug 08 19:22:56 anand why do you think that NTFS is important to the average potential meego user? Aug 08 19:23:01 there wouldn't be much to "contribute", it's just changing the build config for the kernel or a module and shipping another package Aug 08 19:23:07 can you actually name 5 standard usb devices which use NTFS? Aug 08 19:23:14 i mean actual devices as sold by real vendors Aug 08 19:23:17 actually Aug 08 19:23:23 most users like me Aug 08 19:23:38 actually compiling a list of real usb devices which default to ntfs would be a useful contribution Aug 08 19:23:49 who use windows most of the times format it in NTFS Aug 08 19:23:51 so, that's not a real valid target audience Aug 08 19:24:24 when my sister or my father tell me they have formatted a usb stick ntfs, then i'll consider it Aug 08 19:24:38 though i dont agree with u much but okay if u say so Aug 08 19:24:42 but a techy doing something as stupid as formatting a usb stick as ntfs gets what he/she deserves Aug 08 19:25:00 is there anything else i can contribute Aug 08 19:25:02 (almost certainly he...) Aug 08 19:25:20 i really loved the OS n feel like shud do something Aug 08 19:25:56 well, there are dozens of apps w/ ui quirks Aug 08 19:26:14 probably a bunch of them have poor or missing localization Aug 08 19:26:23 there's an entire bug database (bugs.meego.com) Aug 08 19:26:54 i would like to know if there are things in the core OS probably in the DATA management block or the security layer Aug 08 19:27:18 ya i went through that n that too confirmed wat i felt Aug 08 19:27:26 about the NTFS Aug 08 19:27:43 also the AD- hoc networking is not supported Aug 08 19:28:18 some of those things are likely to magically appear eventually Aug 08 19:28:33 so certain investments in engineering might be a waste of time Aug 08 19:28:44 otoh, i've personally found adhoc to be a huge waste of time Aug 08 19:29:04 i've yet to find a single remotely useful UI on any platform for adhoc Aug 08 19:29:33 my n900 has 3 incompatible adhoc networks for each of 3 incompatible app systems Aug 08 19:30:31 timeless do u have any ideas where i can work Aug 08 19:30:46 depends on what skills you have... Aug 08 19:31:42 okay u suggest some then i can judge Aug 08 19:32:15 The feature merge closes very soon, so really just search bugs.meego.com and fix (non-enhancement) bugs Aug 08 19:32:59 but there are loads of bugs on it Aug 08 19:33:21 so its difficult to sort out Aug 08 19:33:33 monu: idea being you use the search function to look for stuff that interests you Aug 08 19:33:43 timeless u there ?? Aug 08 19:33:51 or failing that, you use it yourself, find stuff that irritates you, and fix it Aug 08 19:34:26 i'm watching a movie... Aug 08 19:34:34 yeah Aug 08 19:34:48 the first thing on which i was stuck was ntfs Aug 08 19:34:58 but there are >2400 bugs that are open.. Aug 08 19:35:17 timeless really man i hav been through that list Aug 08 19:35:26 it said it does not mount ntfs system Aug 08 19:35:57 anyway, that bug is messed up Aug 08 19:36:06 the last idiot to comment on it was wrong Aug 08 19:36:16 and the bug has already been killed once Aug 08 19:36:27 so it's clearly a bad bug to adopt Aug 08 19:37:00 if u would suggest something big that w ould really help i mean the bugs there will be corrected till the time i finish with ma work Aug 08 19:38:07 wt00 I have been through the list n I'm looking for something big Aug 08 19:38:20 wt00 can u help me Aug 08 19:38:34 http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672 Aug 08 19:38:52 why do you want something big? Aug 08 19:40:29 timeless actually we are a group of ppl 4 to be accurate n we are looking forward to take it as a project in our Engg. Aug 08 19:43:33 ?? Aug 08 19:44:31 is anyone there ?? Aug 08 19:45:11 http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1340 Aug 08 19:45:18 that's a big bug Aug 08 19:55:50 timeless u trying to make fun of me Aug 08 19:56:23 no Aug 08 19:56:31 that's really a big bug Aug 08 19:57:07 hmmm u seem to be making fun of me Aug 08 19:57:13 let it be Aug 08 19:57:16 not "big"="important", just "big"="lots of stuff to change" Aug 08 19:57:42 but if you can't fix it, then it really doesn't make sense for you to try something "big" Aug 08 19:58:02 (and regardless of whether it's important, it helps you learn things) Aug 08 19:58:36 hmmmm Aug 08 19:58:57 i've been working on open source for over a decade. i pick things based on experience Aug 08 19:59:07 lets see i'll hav a chat with my grp then Aug 08 20:00:03 word to the wise: don't abbreviate 5 letter words Aug 08 20:00:22 just because linux is like unix doesn't mean you have to drop vowels when communicating Aug 08 20:00:50 sorry about that Aug 08 20:01:32 is there anything i should search upon Aug 08 20:01:38 oh, yeah, don't assume that people are making fun of you. they took the time to offer help Aug 08 20:01:55 hmmm sorry about that too Aug 08 20:02:14 it's all a learning experience Aug 08 20:02:19 but it is really difficult to find the right guys like you Aug 08 20:02:32 u been real help man Aug 08 20:10:48 any other ideas timeless Aug 08 20:11:35 wait for movie to end? Aug 08 20:11:47 k fine till wat time Aug 08 20:11:57 hi all Aug 08 20:14:06 probably 10mins Aug 08 20:18:30 After installing Meego and removing my thumbdrive, I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" Aug 08 20:18:35 Anyone have any ideas on this? Aug 08 20:18:48 thumbdrive plugged in, it boots perfectly Aug 08 20:24:25 http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1721 Aug 08 20:28:29 timeless: have u downloaded the handset sdk? Aug 08 20:29:33 any meego team member here? Aug 08 20:32:07 you expressed an interest in build stuff, http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2648 should be simple Aug 08 20:32:16 i've downloaded various meego stuff Aug 08 20:32:20 i din't keep track Aug 08 20:33:56 taljurf, handset sdk is scratchbox based or something else ? Aug 08 20:34:27 VDVsx: the one here http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux Aug 08 20:35:06 ah ok :) Aug 08 20:36:55 VDVsx: did u download it? Aug 08 20:37:17 taljurf, nop :D Aug 08 20:37:37 taljurf, have problems ? Aug 08 20:38:57 http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3232 is a different kind of bug Aug 08 20:39:53 timeless, isn't possible to use letters in the US ? :P Aug 08 20:42:33 VDVsx: no, just wanna know the list of files inside Aug 08 20:50:29 that's all i'm going to offer for now Aug 08 20:57:56 timeless, what movie were you watching and was it any good? Aug 08 20:58:02 * lcuk is about to watch Brazil Aug 08 20:58:24 Sahara Aug 08 20:58:43 i'd seen the end before, but i'm not sure i'd seen the beginng Aug 08 20:58:52 heh you are the opposite of tracy Aug 08 20:59:01 she has seen the start of more films than anyone Aug 08 20:59:06 but never gets to the end Aug 08 20:59:31 hell - she missed end of "The sixth sense" Aug 08 20:59:46 heh Aug 08 20:59:51 I'm a bit different Aug 08 20:59:56 how about Blood: the last vampire? Aug 08 21:00:03 I watch many things at the same time Aug 08 21:00:08 (same with reading etc) Aug 08 21:00:13 eep w00t_ i once tried that with books Aug 08 21:00:25 lcuk: my record was reading around 6 different books at once :p Aug 08 21:00:27 w00t_: don't things get mixed up in your head? Aug 08 21:00:37 more than that I just don't have the time for Aug 08 21:00:38 its easier now to get a box set and sit throguh series at a time Aug 08 21:00:39 CosmoHill: no Aug 08 21:00:48 through Aug 08 21:00:56 I just switch context to what I'm doing at the time and I'm a happy clam Aug 08 21:01:12 CosmoHill, w00t_ - i suppose bite size pieces of books is like watching a few tv shows during a week Aug 08 21:01:23 exactly Aug 08 21:01:24 * lcuk rarely watches realtime tv Aug 08 21:01:58 the problem comes when I find a book I can't put down, because then I get totally absorbed in it for however long it takes me to finish Aug 08 21:02:07 to the detriment of my sleep rhythm, usually Aug 08 21:02:16 heh Aug 08 21:03:01 * w00t_ started reading some interesting stuff yesterday around 10pm, next looked at the clock to find it 4am Aug 08 21:03:05 w00t_, facebrick update from mrs w00t_ on planet at the moment Aug 08 21:03:13 the screenshot Aug 08 21:03:23 it shows blurred out people Aug 08 21:03:31 one of them looks like someone is mooning the camera Aug 08 21:03:36 hahah Aug 08 21:03:53 with friends like Brik's i'd not be surprised Aug 08 21:04:07 lol :| Aug 08 21:04:29 oh, hi Brik \o Aug 08 21:04:37 (can you blame me for blurring them out?) Aug 08 21:04:46 not at all Aug 08 21:04:56 hi lcuk :) Aug 08 21:05:14 but is it mooning or just a pair of heads that looks that way? Aug 08 21:05:19 h:D Aug 08 21:05:23 gahhh Aug 08 21:05:32 i am going to rip this nipple off my keyboard Aug 08 21:05:38 speaking of facebrick Aug 08 21:05:40 pretty sure it's just someone looking like an ass Aug 08 21:05:44 :D Aug 08 21:05:47 "There are some people in this world that make you facepalm so hard that you highfive the person behind you." Aug 08 21:05:54 is one of the best quotes i've seen in a while Aug 08 21:06:33 Brik the ass person is emma Aug 08 21:06:36 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eWzefzyaqQQ/TFwB7p_5KqI/AAAAAAAAAiU/TYtm0WkG9UU/s1600/Screenshot-20100806-143354.png Aug 08 21:06:41 lcuk: your keyboard has a nipple? Aug 08 21:06:43 i want one of those :) Aug 08 21:06:45 yes w00t_ Aug 08 21:06:50 an inverted one as well Aug 08 21:06:59 ouch, ingrown nipple Aug 08 21:07:01 sounds painful Aug 08 21:07:02 since I had this laptop I have taken to messing with it Aug 08 21:07:02 ;p Aug 08 21:07:25 w00t_: some people even keep spares Aug 08 21:07:43 i need to organise a new laptop actually Aug 08 21:07:53 my one is basically a desktop replacement, and i will soon need to be at least semi-mobile Aug 08 21:07:56 so that isn't really an option Aug 08 21:08:09 i had to tweak it really hard the other day because my pointer kept rising Aug 08 21:08:20 lol Aug 08 21:08:22 lcuk: yeah that's a photo of two people (sorry to ruin your illusion) ;p Aug 08 21:08:33 i have the most disturbed image of you stroking your keyboard nipple now. Aug 08 21:08:35 just so you know. Aug 08 21:08:36 Brik, thats perfectly ok Aug 08 21:08:46 nahh i just spin the cursor around Aug 08 21:09:07 hey Brik Aug 08 21:09:31 hei CosmoHill :) Aug 08 21:20:21 nite all, sweet dreams Aug 08 21:21:32 what is the location of the grub boot arguments file that's like /boot/grub/menu.lst on Debian? Aug 08 21:24:38 nevermind. /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf Aug 08 21:33:26 on boot to the correct disk, I think it's still pointing to the wrong boot device somehow. everything points to /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sda1. getting the error "Could not open -p. fsck.ext3: no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1" Aug 08 23:17:22 vgrade: are you here? Aug 08 23:45:12 does anyone know if the meego netbook os will work in a car Aug 09 00:05:07 night night Aug 09 00:30:34 you go? Aug 09 01:25:52 hm Aug 09 01:26:05 so like. can't i use the nitdroid dual booter to boot meego on a separate partition? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 09 02:59:57 2010