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Aug 12 07:02:09 <thopiekar> moin
Aug 12 07:03:04 <thopiekar> I tried to install meego on my T91 but after the install Grub says that "Initial menu has no LABEL entries!"
Aug 12 07:03:10 <thopiekar> how can i fix that?
Aug 12 07:04:08 <thopiekar> I got the ready made images for installation via usb from linux-tracker.org/.com and just dd' the image on my usb stick
Aug 12 07:04:15 <thopiekar> vgrade: ^
Aug 12 07:04:58 <thopiekar> now after a time it says "Could not find kernel image: vesamenu.c32"
Aug 12 07:05:04 <thopiekar> :S
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Aug 12 07:28:20 <magie_01123> thanks
Aug 12 07:29:06 * lbt finishes his looong commute to work and says "good morning" ... especially to Jaffa ;)
Aug 12 07:29:09 <magie_01123> on IVI ?
Aug 12 07:30:23 <thiago_home> mcompositor
Aug 12 07:32:42 <magie_01123> @thiago_home is mcompositor open source
Aug 12 07:32:52 <thiago_home> yes
Aug 12 07:33:06 <thiago_home> everything in core MeeGo is open source
Aug 12 07:33:17 <w00t_> thiago_home: it isn't mcompositor on ivi
Aug 12 07:33:18 <w00t_> it's matchbox
Aug 12 07:33:46 <thiago_home> it is?
Aug 12 07:33:53 <w00t_> yup
Aug 12 07:34:39 <Jaffa> lbt: :-p
Aug 12 07:35:03 <Jaffa> lbt: Nice short commute to work this morning: one bus ride. Admittedly, the bus is Swedish; and the office is in Stockholm...
Aug 12 07:35:14 <lbt> heh
Aug 12 07:35:23 * Jaffa needs to find something touristy to do on his own on Saturday (or sit in the hotel room hacking on Maemo stuff)
Aug 12 07:36:03 <magie_01123> is there an SDK avialable for Meego IVI release?
Aug 12 07:37:07 * thiago_home reads "customer inside before intel inside please intel guys" in meego-dev@ 3 times and gives up trying to understand
Aug 12 07:38:42 <thiago_home> magie_01123: there's no application SDK yet
Aug 12 07:38:55 <magie_01123> ok thanks
Aug 12 07:39:48 <fabo> you have more patience than me, I read the sentence 2 times and mail deleted
Aug 12 07:42:24 <magie_01123> @thiago_home does the meego IVI use gnome also? i cud gnome in the ivi repository
Aug 12 07:44:16 <thiago_home> meego doesn't use gnome
Aug 12 07:44:26 <thiago_home> meego uses some gnome apps in some of the verticals
Aug 12 07:44:40 <lbt> thiago_home: http://mer-l-in.blogspot.com/2010/08/are-intel-subverting-meegocom.html
Aug 12 07:45:01 <TermanaN900> you could gnome in the ivi repository? please tell me this process of gnoming in :P
Aug 12 07:45:11 <lbt> since I implicated you...
Aug 12 07:45:48 <thiago_home> lbt: so, the same applies to Maemo5 because the ARM images don't run on generic x86?
Aug 12 07:48:19 <thiago_home> lbt: but your proposal looks nice
Aug 12 07:48:44 <lbt> I agree - but I thought the ARM port worked on a beagleboard
Aug 12 07:48:53 <timeless> lbt: spell check
Aug 12 07:48:55 <lbt> which is the generic equivalent
Aug 12 07:48:57 <timeless> what's "Postition"?
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Aug 12 08:28:38 <lbt> not a bad journey then :)
Aug 12 08:28:54 <thiago> 20-minute commute
Aug 12 08:30:04 <fabo> dcthang: KDE isn't packaged for MeeGo (yet)
Aug 12 08:30:17 <thiago> nor does it make sense to be packaged
Aug 12 08:30:46 <dcthang> oh I just wonder if i want to use koffice there in meego
Aug 12 08:30:48 <fabo> thiago: he's isn't the first one and why not on netbook?
Aug 12 08:31:03 <thiago> plasma-netbook?
Aug 12 08:31:29 <fabo> yeah
Aug 12 08:31:32 <thiago> that might make sense. But MeeGo doesn't have to ship with every single KDE app, just as it won't ship with every app at all.
Aug 12 08:31:40 * thiago has tried plasma-netbook on MeeGo
Aug 12 08:32:10 <fabo> sure, we'll use the profiles as discussed on kde ml not the full kde stuff
Aug 12 08:32:25 <dcthang> yes, may be kde lib is ported to meego?
Aug 12 08:32:49 <dcthang> seems there are some useful apps people like to use
Aug 12 08:32:49 <fabo> dcthang: look at kde mobile
Aug 12 08:33:03 <thiago> yes, they are being ported to mobile profiles
Aug 12 08:34:12 <dcthang> fabo: good news..since I would like to port some apps to meego as koffice for example
Aug 12 08:34:23 <thiago> that is already being done
Aug 12 08:34:34 <fabo> dcthang: afaik, there's freeoffice
Aug 12 08:35:57 <fabo> I don't remember the exact name...
Aug 12 08:36:14 <dcthang> yes
Aug 12 08:36:17 <dcthang> it is freoffice
Aug 12 08:36:36 <fabo> right
Aug 12 08:38:25 <dcthang> fabo:the problem here is freoffice depends on kofficemeego and seems kofficemeego depends on kde libs?
Aug 12 08:40:50 <dcthang> anyway,  fabo and thiago: thanks for your comment :)
Aug 12 08:42:20 <fabo> dcthang: you're welcome. there's also #kde-mobile if you want to participate on the effort ;)
Aug 12 08:42:57 <dcthang> fabo: sure, thanks :)
Aug 12 08:43:08 <fabo> not very active but feel free to ask your questions related to kde there
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Aug 12 13:58:49 <timoph> but not really ready for to be used
Aug 12 14:00:06 <fabo> Aard: could I ask removal of libqtcontacts project?
Aug 12 14:00:49 <Aard> fabo: did you push qt-mobility? if yes, it can be removed
Aug 12 14:00:54 <fabo> Aard: I guess Qt Mobility supersed this project
Aug 12 14:01:27 <fabo> Aard: yes, and we have expansion error caused by libqtcontacts
Aug 12 14:01:37 <Aard> yes, then have it removed
Aug 12 14:01:43 <fabo> ok, thanks
Aug 12 14:01:51 <Aard> the point of my updates to qt-mobility was being able to remove libqtcontacts
Aug 12 14:12:05 <Trollkarlen> timoph: Where can i find the best one untill now then ;-)
Aug 12 14:15:13 <timoph> Trollkarlen: trying to find you a link to the instructions but I'm an a train and the networking sucks
Aug 12 14:17:46 <timoph> Trollkarlen: you can find the instructions from MeeGo forum and wiki
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Aug 12 15:08:21 <ali1234> vgrade: i'm interested in meego for vanilla x86 too. i keep hearing about how OBS makes it so easy but nobody can ever show any documentation how i should do it
Aug 12 15:08:59 <ali1234> i'm not bothered about making intel do it for me, i would be happy to compile the whole damn thing myself using my own resources if somebody would just tell me a way that actually works
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Aug 12 15:55:42 <xDaReaperx> Hi
Aug 12 15:59:25 <amjad> hi
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Aug 12 16:58:41 <_BuBU> Hi
Aug 12 16:58:53 <_BuBU> any connman expert? :)
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Aug 12 17:44:37 <lcuk> last night during the discussion, one of the things about performance was mentioned
Aug 12 17:44:44 <lcuk> <lcuk> and working out how to operate in alternative resolutions *WILL* be needed when you get other devices onboard
Aug 12 17:44:44 <lcuk> * bpeel is now known as bpeel_away
Aug 12 17:44:44 <lcuk> <Stskeeps> lcuk: libmeegotouch already runs in alternative resolutions
Aug 12 17:44:44 <lcuk> <Stskeeps> check devices.conf sometime
Aug 12 17:44:51 <lcuk> I just did some testing in liqbase
Aug 12 17:45:12 <lcuk> and running liqbase at 800*480 gets a framerate doing a certain task at 45fps
Aug 12 17:45:22 <lcuk> running same task at 640*480 gives me 55fps
Aug 12 17:45:28 <lcuk> I do not have capbility to test this
Aug 12 17:45:30 <UlfHofemeier> Hi
Aug 12 17:45:41 <lcuk> can someone PLEASE try on n900 changing the parameter stskeeps mentioned
Aug 12 17:45:47 <lcuk> and tell me if it does change resolution
Aug 12 17:45:54 <lcuk> and if its a valid strong improvements?
Aug 12 17:46:03 <Stskeeps> lcuk: that isn't what sets screen resolutions, just what resolutions it's expected to work with :P
Aug 12 17:46:46 <lcuk> so then setting that parameter is first step
Aug 12 17:47:00 <lcuk> what else? - even accepting a black line down the side
Aug 12 17:47:20 <lcuk> is it entirely down to the graphics driver?
Aug 12 17:47:37 <lcuk> the yuv overlay mode can be coerced into stretch to fit (it just did it for me now)
Aug 12 17:47:45 <lcuk> I have never managed or tried with rgb
Aug 12 18:10:44 <lcuk> I just mailed meego-dev
Aug 12 18:11:17 <lcuk> [MeeGo-dev] Making meego fast - quick tests and lots of input needed       http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-August/004797.html
Aug 12 18:31:08 <tyan_> Trying to figure out how cellular will work in Meego, Will the isimodem driver in ophono work better than Maemo5 or is is just a wrapper to the closed firmwarekernel driver on N900? For example Maemop5 lacks SIM toolkit will this be possible to implement via libophomo on Meego on N900?
Aug 12 18:31:43 <Stskeeps> tyan_: ofono :)
Aug 12 18:31:57 <tyan_> woops yes :-)
Aug 12 18:32:33 <Stskeeps> tyan_: kernel driver is fully open, but the software running inside the modem is closed source, but on linux side, everything should be open
Aug 12 18:32:37 <Stskeeps> i believe sim toolkit is one of the requirements
Aug 12 18:37:25 <tyan_> So we can only hope nokia improves the isi kerneldriver that talks to the isimodem then? Or hope they will use same isimodem in nextgen meego phones so we can backport kerneldriver to N900?
Aug 12 18:37:52 <Stskeeps> isi is the protocol spoken to them odem
Aug 12 18:37:54 <Stskeeps> modem
Aug 12 18:38:53 <vgrade> ali1234, there is a lot of documentation on the meego an maemo sites regarding setting up local OBS, http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service, http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS_setup_openSUSE112
Aug 12 18:39:41 <tyan_> Stskeeps:  so the isimodem spec exist in open?
Aug 12 18:39:58 <Stskeeps> not sure, think so?
Aug 12 18:46:20 <VDVsx> agrr, can't read the full proposal in meego conference website :(
Aug 12 18:46:59 * VDVsx blames Stskeeps :D
Aug 12 18:47:26 <Stskeeps> :P
Aug 12 18:49:30 <VDVsx> Stskeeps, there's some bug there, I was able to read the proposals a couple of days ago :D
Aug 12 18:50:14 * VDVsx just registered for the conference :)
Aug 12 18:52:48 <ali1234> vgrade: and after i have set up a local OBS, then what?
Aug 12 18:53:05 <luist> hello.. in running garage with my own repository and my list of applications... i have around 55 apps and after installing around 12 of them, all the images in the application unload, and all the Install buttons goes disabled... this is the strace -e open nbg output, check i the end the "Too many open files"  can anyone help me to fix this?
Aug 12 18:54:29 <luist> http://pastebin.com/1h0ZAxyH
Aug 12 19:00:26 <Phazorx> luist: ulimit issue possibly?
Aug 12 19:01:22 <luist> Phazorx: any change its a bug in the application? why does it keep opening the same cache images all the time? (before the error)
Aug 12 19:01:43 <luist> Phazorx: how can i set ulimit config file to increase the limit?
Aug 12 19:02:29 <Mostafa> hi Meegos :)
Aug 12 19:03:10 <Mostafa> I want to test meego-menus translation for ex
Aug 12 19:04:39 <Phazorx> luist: well i wasnt paying attention to that since i have no clue what the app does and how... but too many open files kind of makes me think of ulimit
Aug 12 19:04:49 <Mostafa> is this meego-menus.mo correct name for it?
Aug 12 19:04:57 <Mostafa> to use i
Aug 12 19:05:10 <Mostafa> it in locale directory ?
Aug 12 19:05:25 <luist> Phazorx: ok... how do i increase ulimit -n in a config file?
Aug 12 19:05:38 <Phazorx> luist: you can probably set higher ulimit, but this is generaly advised for servers not a client kind of scenario... in your case it is probabyl wiser to figure out WHY it is happening rather tha deal with ulimit, so i take my initial cmment back
Aug 12 19:06:04 <Phazorx> luist: same way you increase it anywhere else... make a shell script run it at some point when you think it is wise
Aug 12 19:06:50 <lcuk> Jaffa, non ssse3 is one thing, but how do we get non powervr?
Aug 12 19:06:56 <Skyscraper> hi
Aug 12 19:07:10 <lcuk> or happily running powervr on netbook image on netbooks that dont support it currently rather
Aug 12 19:07:20 <lcuk> like the nokia netbook
Aug 12 19:08:37 <Skyscraper> is it possible to run the latest version of meego on n900? or do i have to stay at my first-day-ux? ^^
Aug 12 19:08:55 <lcuk> Skyscraper, sure its possible, theres a prebuilt image now!
Aug 12 19:09:13 <lcuk> and you burn it onto an MMC and boot via changing the kernel
Aug 12 19:09:19 <lcuk> reboot and back to working n900
Aug 12 19:09:50 <lcuk> you can replace the kernel totally too if you like for all boots
Aug 12 19:10:00 <Skyscraper> lcuk the last version i build myself doesnt want to work ;)
Aug 12 19:10:03 <lcuk> and even if you are brave, try to work out how to get full dualboot working
Aug 12 19:10:11 <lcuk> Skyscraper, thats a shame :(
Aug 12 19:10:17 <lcuk> try harder! :p
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Aug 12 19:12:23 <Skyscraper> yes
Aug 12 19:12:36 <lcuk> nice!
Aug 12 19:13:04 <lcuk> how long would it take self building directly on n900? *evilgrin*
Aug 12 19:13:14 <Skyscraper> oh there are new files on nokia-page? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php
Aug 12 19:13:20 <lcuk> yes
Aug 12 19:13:36 <Skyscraper> theres an build from 3.8.2010?
Aug 12 19:14:40 <Skyscraper> hm... but is there an wifi driver? or would it say again "wifi not supported on this device" :D
Aug 12 19:14:58 <lcuk> Skyscraper, thats for you to work out!
Aug 12 19:15:11 <lcuk> and yes, theres an August 3rd build
Aug 12 19:15:21 * lcuk mutters something about date formats ;)
Aug 12 19:15:34 <Skyscraper> hm... when its on the nokia-page it should work on n900 ;)
Aug 12 19:15:45 <Skyscraper> german date format :p
Aug 12 19:16:03 <lcuk> Skyscraper, hey, progress
Aug 12 19:16:03 <Skyscraper> hum.. theres no "dd" command in windows xD
Aug 12 19:17:55 <Skyscraper> lol i can download image and kernel and flasher in/for windows.. but i cannot "dd" the sda image to sd-card in windows^^
Aug 12 19:23:33 <notmart> hi all
Aug 12 19:23:52 <notmart> somebody knows where i can signal problems on the meego conference registration website?
Aug 12 19:24:38 <lbt> notmart: here is good
Aug 12 19:24:46 <lbt> what's up?
Aug 12 19:25:15 <notmart> lbt: i submitted a session proposal but it seems it did hate all the text, leaving just the title (with some nice php warnings)
Aug 12 19:26:12 <notmart> it doesn't seem possible to view details of submitted proposals as well (while untile earlier today was)
Aug 12 19:26:15 <lbt> do you have the text saved?
Aug 12 19:26:27 <notmart> of the php errors?
Aug 12 19:26:32 <lbt> no... yours
Aug 12 19:26:33 <notmart> uh, unfortunately not :/
Aug 12 19:26:39 <notmart> my text yes
Aug 12 19:26:50 <lbt> that's the important thing :)
Aug 12 19:27:05 <lbt> keep an eye out for Dawnfoster
Aug 12 19:27:23 <notmart> lbt: on this channel?
Aug 12 19:27:26 <lbt> yes
Aug 12 19:27:31 <notmart> okie :)
Aug 12 19:27:35 <lcuk> dawnfoster is travelling afaik, according to twitter, she may pop on from airport..
Aug 12 19:27:46 <lbt> ah, in that case, X-Fade may be able to point at others...
Aug 12 19:27:56 * lbt goes to feed cat
Aug 12 19:27:57 <lcuk> errr rather, "get a little work done" in her words
Aug 12 19:28:44 <notmart> X-Fade: ^^ any ideas?
Aug 12 19:32:22 <Skyscraper> hm... downing image from nokia page... about 1 hour left
Aug 12 19:32:31 <vgrade> lcuk, MeeGo Nokia Booklet video here, http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vgrade
Aug 12 19:33:40 <lcuk> mmm vgrade so what was I hearing that it doesnt work?
Aug 12 19:33:49 <lcuk> thats excellent btw!
Aug 12 19:34:05 <lcuk> lol Skyscraper so it was just as fast to down packages and build
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Aug 12 20:30:24 * CosmoHill dances around
Aug 12 20:30:44 <CosmoHill> 200m away there is a Ford Focus WRC car :D
Aug 12 20:48:17 <Skyscraper> hm... dd under windows seems impossible
Aug 12 20:48:44 <lbt> cygwin
Aug 12 20:49:11 <lbt> "makes life bearable"
Aug 12 20:49:21 <Skyscraper> trying http://www.chrysocome.net/dd at the moment... seems to do anything... but dont know what :D
Aug 12 20:49:51 <lbt> ugh
Aug 12 20:50:41 <Skyscraper> i'm searching for an windows 7 ext3 driver right now
Aug 12 20:50:43 <lbt> oh, I thought it was using DOS \args.... I apologise to chrysocome
Aug 12 20:51:04 <lbt> Skyscraper: wubi
Aug 12 20:51:05 <Skyscraper> hm... output of windows-dd from that site:  Error writing file: 87 Falscher Parameter 415040+0 records in 415039+0 records out
Aug 12 20:51:35 <ali1234> colinux + samba?
Aug 12 20:53:14 <Skyscraper> maybe theres a windows gui app like dd for linux
Aug 12 20:53:14 <Skyscraper> ?
Aug 12 20:53:29 <ali1234> what are you actually trying to do?
Aug 12 20:53:30 <lbt> cygwin is a gui
Aug 12 20:53:40 <lbt> it presents a shell in a window
Aug 12 20:54:01 <Skyscraper> i know cygwin... thats not a real GUI... its a CLI :p
Aug 12 20:54:14 <lbt> you can resize it using a mouse == gui
Aug 12 20:54:37 <lbt> oh... and a minor point .... it works
Aug 12 20:54:38 <Skyscraper> rofl
Aug 12 20:54:53 <Skyscraper> cygwin is really big... dont want to install it now
Aug 12 20:55:08 <ali1234> lbt: i'm going to try yet again to set up OBS in a VM... would you recommend i use 11.3? 32 bit or 64 bit?
Aug 12 20:55:40 <lbt> I'd suggest you read this: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/Installation
Aug 12 20:55:49 <lbt> and this: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Deployment
Aug 12 20:55:56 <ali1234> so you recommend i use 11.2?
Aug 12 20:56:05 <lbt> 11.3 is probably a safe choice now
Aug 12 20:56:28 <ali1234> and there should be no issues running 64 bit?
Aug 12 20:56:30 <lbt> ISTR some minor issues but I think that was a different application
Aug 12 20:56:38 <lbt> 64 bit is fine
Aug 12 20:56:45 <ali1234> thanks, that's all i wanted to know :)
Aug 12 20:56:58 <Skyscraper> whats wrong when i use the windows-dd? i typed dd if=C:\pathtoimage.raw of=\\.\Volume{id} bs=4096 ... do i have to write 4096k ?
Aug 12 20:57:04 <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
Aug 12 20:58:21 <ali1234> Skyscraper: bs=4096 will be in bytes so yeah... if it supports "k" prefix... otherwise multiply by 1024. but bs should not actually affect anything other than the time it takes to copy
Aug 12 20:59:03 <Skyscraper> ali1234: but why windows-dd crashes with: Error writing file: 87 Falscher Parameter 415040+0 records in 415039+0 records out
Aug 12 20:59:28 <lbt> spaces?
Aug 12 20:59:42 <ali1234> i'm not sure what "87 Falscher" means
Aug 12 21:00:25 <ali1234> but 415040+0 records in 415039+0 records out means all but the last 4096 bytes got copied
Aug 12 21:00:25 <ali1234> maybe the partition isn't quite as big as you think it is?
Aug 12 21:01:05 <Skyscraper> thats german and means "87 bad parameter"
Aug 12 21:02:46 <Skyscraper> D:\Meego>dd if=meego-handset-armv5tel-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.13.20100803. 2-mmcblk0p.raw of=\\.\Volume{8dae6faf-400d-11df-8f43-e0cb4e65de40} bs=4096
Aug 12 21:02:52 <Skyscraper> thats my command
Aug 12 21:03:00 <ali1234> maybe it means "Error writing file: 87\nFalscher Parameter"
Aug 12 21:03:31 <ali1234> ie 87 isn't the bad parameter but the error returned by fwrite or w/e
Aug 12 21:03:54 <ali1234> in errno.h 87 is EUSER which isn't very helpful
Aug 12 21:04:39 <ali1234> and might not even be relevant on windows
Aug 12 21:05:47 <Skyscraper> hm
Aug 12 21:06:00 <Skyscraper> trying:
Aug 12 21:06:02 <Skyscraper> D:\Meego>dd if=meego-handset-armv5tel-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.13.20100803. 2-mmcblk0p.raw of=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0  bs=4096
Aug 12 21:06:03 <ali1234> is the bolume a sd card or something?
Aug 12 21:06:06 <ali1234> *volume
Aug 12 21:06:21 <Skyscraper> yes its an SD-Card in the internal slot from my netbook
Aug 12 21:07:37 <tybollt> win32 disk imager users? here's complaining "Not enough space on disk" whereas the "disk" is a 4GB card and the laptop has plenty of space...
Aug 12 21:09:12 <lbt> am I wrong to want MeeGo on more x86 devices?
Aug 12 21:09:38 <ali1234> no absolutely not
Aug 12 21:09:57 <tybollt> does it run on gma500 yet?
Aug 12 21:10:11 <ali1234> i want to see it on more ARM chips too
Aug 12 21:15:48 <lbt> there's a little debate on the -dev ml
Aug 12 21:16:15 <w00t_> lbt: there is?
Aug 12 21:16:20 <w00t_> that's bad, it means my email isn't working
Aug 12 21:16:48 <w00t_> ah, of course, I forgot to install offlineimap..
Aug 12 21:16:51 <w00t_> that wouldn't help
Aug 12 21:17:02 <lbt> http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-August/004762.html
Aug 12 21:17:10 * w00t_ sighs
Aug 12 21:17:15 <w00t_> this means I'm going to get bombarded with email
Aug 12 21:17:58 <CosmoHill> cybergirl: salut
Aug 12 21:18:02 <ali1234> lbt: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/Installation - why does it talk about disk partitioning? is that really necessary or just that you are documenting the whole process of setting up the community OBS there?
Aug 12 21:18:08 <CosmoHill> cybergirl: were you in #lfs-support recently?
Aug 12 21:18:33 <lbt> ali1234: documenting my process
Aug 12 21:19:13 <lbt> you probably want LVM if you're doing a proper install
Aug 12 21:21:01 <ali1234> of course. but i just want to learn about OBS for now
Aug 12 21:22:02 <Skyscraper> hum... now trying dd from UnxUtils at sourceforge
Aug 12 21:22:20 <ali1234> actually i was going to follow this but using 11.3: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS_setup_openSUSE112
Aug 12 21:22:27 <vgrade1> CosmoHill, should have tried do you come here often :)
Aug 12 21:22:39 <w00t_> lbt: I'm not sure whether to thank you or curse you for alerting me to that mail problem...
Aug 12 21:22:42 <w00t_> :P
Aug 12 21:22:47 <CosmoHill> but she's a she :o
Aug 12 21:43:06 <Skyscraper> lol now copying raw to n900 and using dd on itself
Aug 12 21:43:53 <CosmoHill> what just happened?
Aug 12 21:44:16 <Skyscraper> dd for windows wont work -.-
Aug 12 21:45:16 <Gizmokid2005> CosmoHill: NetSplit
Aug 12 21:45:46 <CosmoHill> fun
Aug 12 21:46:59 <lcuk> Skyscraper, how big is your MMC?
Aug 12 21:47:17 <Skyscraper> 8g
Aug 12 21:47:30 <lcuk> big enough then
Aug 12 21:47:34 <Skyscraper> yes
Aug 12 21:47:42 <Skyscraper> cygwin failed too
Aug 12 21:48:34 <CosmoHill> Skyscraper: linux livecd?
Aug 12 21:48:40 <CosmoHill> or a mac
Aug 12 21:48:50 <Skyscraper> n900 itself
Aug 12 21:51:08 <Skyscraper> so now n900 copies from mmcblk0p1/meego.raw to mmcblk1
Aug 12 21:52:08 <Skyscraper> argh... all the time typing "ls" instead of "dir" in windows shell
Aug 12 22:05:36 <Skyscraper> hm... very slow
Aug 12 22:05:47 <Skyscraper> its copying and copying xD
Aug 12 22:28:31 <Skyscraper> hm... n900 itself wouldnt copy ? seems so
Aug 12 22:29:17 <Skyscraper> over 40 minutes?
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Aug 12 22:57:22 <Skyscraper> nope... n900 displayed some booting linux (without backlight^^) and then restated and booted back into maemo
Aug 12 22:58:31 <CosmoHill> try pressing the power button and increse brightness button
Aug 12 22:58:34 <zimmerle> Stskeeps: pong
Aug 12 22:59:09 <CosmoHill> zimmerle: that's not a very nice thing to say about someone
Aug 12 23:00:27 <ScottishDuck> my brother died because of pong
Aug 12 23:00:32 <ScottishDuck> I am deeply hurt
Aug 12 23:00:42 <Skyscraper> hm when i mount the mmcblk1p1 and type ls in /media/mmc1 then it says ./lib: Input/Output error and ./dev too
Aug 12 23:00:48 <CosmoHill> ping was found innocent
Aug 12 23:00:54 <Skyscraper> maybe bad image or bad dd copy?
Aug 12 23:01:04 <CosmoHill> Skyscraper: did you check the ms5?
Aug 12 23:01:07 <CosmoHill> md5*
Aug 12 23:01:12 <Skyscraper> nope :D
Aug 12 23:02:27 <zimmerle> CosmoHill: sorry ? :P
Aug 12 23:02:32 <Skyscraper> LOOOOL
Aug 12 23:02:42 <Skyscraper> the DD command wasnt ok
Aug 12 23:02:44 <zimmerle> :)
Aug 12 23:02:48 <CosmoHill> zimmerle: body odour joke
Aug 12 23:02:56 <Skyscraper> it writed a scary file onto my windows D:\ drive oO
Aug 12 23:03:12 <Skyscraper> wondered why my D:\ is full
Aug 12 23:03:25 <Skyscraper> DeviceHarddisk1DR4 <- document xD
Aug 12 23:04:19 <Skyscraper> is it possible to write that .raw with a windows tool like rawrite oder stl?
Aug 12 23:04:38 <ali1234> yes rawrite should work ok
Aug 12 23:04:43 <ali1234> if oyu use it properly :)
Aug 12 23:05:39 <ali1234> maybe it won't let you select the SD card...
Aug 12 23:06:42 <Skyscraper> why not try ;)
Aug 12 23:07:08 <CosmoHill> on linux, you can't copy an image to a drive if the drive is mounted
Aug 12 23:07:23 <CosmoHill> i don't know if that's true for windows
Aug 12 23:07:27 <ali1234> you can actually. it's not a good idea though
Aug 12 23:08:14 <ali1234> since you found that file on d: you just got the output filename wrong
Aug 12 23:12:00 <Skyscraper> hm trying again a windows dd app
Aug 12 23:12:10 <Skyscraper> seems to work now... having other parameters
Aug 12 23:12:45 <Skyscraper> dd if=d:\meego\meego-handset-armv5tel-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.13.20100803.2-mmcblk0p.raw of=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\DR10  bs=1M --size --progress
Aug 12 23:13:07 <Skyscraper> with http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
Aug 12 23:15:20 <Skyscraper> again... crashes on:
Aug 12 23:15:21 <Skyscraper> 1,956M Error reading file: 87 Falscher Parameter  1956+1 records in 1956+1 records out
Aug 12 23:16:28 <ali1234> how big in the raw exactly?
Aug 12 23:16:31 <ali1234> *is
Aug 12 23:16:57 <Skyscraper> (2.051.014.657 Bytes)
Aug 12 23:17:20 <Skyscraper> file on system (2.051.018.752 Bytes)
Aug 12 23:17:38 <ali1234> 1M means 1024*1024 bytes
Aug 12 23:19:39 <Skyscraper> verified the md5 sum of downloaded tar.bz2 - matched! - but... unzipped it with winrar...dont know if thats ok
Aug 12 23:19:45 <ali1234> 1024*1024*1956 = 2.051.014.656
Aug 12 23:19:47 <Guest87556> hey guys, im new to all this linux stuff, installed ubuntu, followed the instructions, run qemu, get a load of white lines in a window and it exits - any ideas?
Aug 12 23:20:11 <auke> what are you running in qemu?
Aug 12 23:20:18 <ali1234> Skyscraper: the transfer is going fine until right near the end, same as before
Aug 12 23:20:28 <Guest87556> meego sdk, raw file
Aug 12 23:20:42 <Skyscraper> all over the web they say i should use bs=4096 - but thats not ok too?
Aug 12 23:21:09 <ali1234> Skyscraper: neither a corrupt file nor wrong blocksize should cause dd to fail like you are seeing
Aug 12 23:22:19 <ali1234> are you sure it's really a 4GB card? there are fakes...
Aug 12 23:23:00 <Guest87556> is there a particular flavour of linux you guys would reccomend as easy to work with qemu and meego on a standard pc with nvidia card?
Aug 12 23:23:11 <Skyscraper> i'm sure its really a 8gb card^^
Aug 12 23:23:41 <CosmoHill> Guest87556: i think Fedora is the flavour of the month
Aug 12 23:23:59 <Guest87556> thanks ill give that a go :D
Aug 12 23:24:50 <ali1234> Skyscraper: does it have multiple partitions on it already?
Aug 12 23:25:05 <Skyscraper> ali1234: yes
Aug 12 23:25:27 <ali1234> what size partitions? is one 2GB?
Aug 12 23:26:05 <Skyscraper> \\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0   link to \\?\Device\Harddisk1\DR10   Removable media other than floppy. Block size = 512   size is 7969177600 bytes \\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition1   link to \\?\Device\HarddiskVolume15   Removable media other than floppy. Block size = 512   size is 1699999744 bytes
Aug 12 23:27:59 <ali1234> well that doesn't really help much
Aug 12 23:29:46 <Skyscraper> ali1234: windows says 1 is 1,58gb and one is 243mb and 5,60gb are free
Aug 12 23:30:11 <ali1234> i think you are writing the image to the partition instead of the device
Aug 12 23:30:19 <ali1234> and the partition isn't big enough
Aug 12 23:30:29 <ali1234> i don't know enough about windows volumes to say for sure
Aug 12 23:38:23 <Skyscraper> 2,002,944k Error reading file: 87 Falscher Parameter  489+1 records in 489+1 records out
Aug 12 23:39:27 * CosmoHill wonders if it would be faster to post it to him
Aug 12 23:39:40 <ali1234> you used bs=4M right?
Aug 12 23:40:25 <Skyscraper> bs=4096k
Aug 12 23:40:35 <CosmoHill> Skyscraper: try without it
Aug 12 23:40:36 <ali1234> same thing
Aug 12 23:40:47 <ali1234> it always fails right near the end
Aug 12 23:40:55 <CosmoHill> dd if=meego.img of=/dev/sdc
Aug 12 23:44:17 <Skyscraper> CosmoHill: trying at the moment ;)
Aug 12 23:50:57 <Skyscraper> CosmoHill: i think that takes hours?
Aug 12 23:51:15 <CosmoHill> it's under an hour
Aug 12 23:51:17 <CosmoHill> but a long time
Aug 12 23:51:21 <CosmoHill> 20 ~ 30 mins I think
Aug 12 23:51:49 <Skyscraper> the process is in bytes?
Aug 12 23:52:23 <CosmoHill> yes but I have no idea how many
Aug 12 23:52:57 <Skyscraper> forget it... 150 mb in 5 minutes... of 2gb.. i'll close all now (-.-) and reboot into ubuntu
Aug 12 23:53:15 <CosmoHill> night night
Aug 12 23:53:35 <Skyscraper> back in a few minutes
Aug 13 00:00:55 <Skyscraper> back again
Aug 13 00:01:59 <Guest87556> so guys, its perfectly ok to use a pc with a non intel graphics (nvisia 8800) with gemu to develop meego apps?
Aug 13 00:12:49 <Skyscraper_> hm...
Aug 13 00:12:53 <Skyscraper_> meego "boots".. xD
Aug 13 00:13:13 <Skyscraper_> but know i get blackscreen with white "mouse" and after a moment then a full "white-screen"
Aug 13 00:13:43 <Skyscraper_> ok, now maemo loading screen... slow:D
Aug 13 00:15:28 <Skyscraper_> WOW!
Aug 13 00:19:55 <Skyscraper_> seems to missing some icons
Aug 13 00:52:42 <UlfHofemeier> Hi
Aug 13 02:58:53 <N900dude> hey dudes....its a damn shame that the conference in ireland will be called meego rather than maemo conference dont ya think?
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