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Sep 02 04:11:21 please down this ... it's a shit of france la-defense.fr.Epiknet.org (195.225.204.22) port 6667 servers ... /map and links ... but be carefull it's an unrealepik irc Daemon Sep 02 04:49:58 Stskeeps: thanks, I already warned freenode staff about that :) Sep 02 04:51:01 i particularly felt offended he mentioned the ircd software i helped found ;) Sep 02 04:51:03 Stskeeps: you might consider adding /freenode-staff to the access list Sep 02 04:52:18 mm, true Sep 02 04:54:39 well time for me to get heading out to work, cya! Sep 02 06:07:47 DawnFoster: hey: thanks. Sep 02 06:08:05 it's nice to wake up one day and see positive bugmail Sep 02 06:08:20 BMC#? Sep 02 06:24:26 * peb is gone. Gone since Wed Sep 1 11:44:00 2010 Sep 02 08:08:50 hi Sep 02 08:09:12 I was wondering if one could add a java jvm to meego Sep 02 08:09:22 not necessarily sun's one Sep 02 08:09:38 it's a turing machine, everything's technically possible Sep 02 08:09:38 :P Sep 02 08:09:48 I don't know which jvm are out there, and which ones are "light" Sep 02 08:10:17 vlj: google? Sep 02 08:10:41 I saw ibm and "jaws" (?) ones on google Sep 02 08:10:51 but I don't know if they are good or not Sep 02 08:11:05 and IBM's one is not free Sep 02 08:16:11 there is not opensource version of jvm found in symbian ? Sep 02 08:25:31 is python supported by meego ? Sep 02 08:28:48 light jvm... Sep 02 08:28:57 ;) Sep 02 08:30:16 there were some news in sprint that canonical was working on android interoperability with ubuntu.. Sep 02 08:30:19 fuck Sep 02 08:30:20 i mean spring Sep 02 08:31:29 jarkko^: yes, but the guy never released the code over ideological reasons Sep 02 08:31:38 k Sep 02 08:32:07 I have the following error code : http://paste.opensuse.org/35267288 Sep 02 08:32:18 with mic2 Sep 02 08:33:53 Stskeeps: there's a one guy for android ? Sep 02 08:34:29 sivang: http://mjfrey.blogspot.com/ Sep 02 08:37:54 oh well, android. One could probably use plain web browser to access google's services Sep 02 08:42:27 vlj, try --run-mode=0 on your mic2 commandline Sep 02 08:42:58 what does it do ? Sep 02 08:44:49 btw does mic2 requires an sse3 computer ? Sep 02 08:45:00 that's a good question Sep 02 08:45:01 :P Sep 02 08:45:06 it might. Sep 02 08:45:09 ssse3, though Sep 02 08:45:20 for ARM builds, it only matters if your qemu-arm is ssse3 Sep 02 08:45:21 because it mounts things, it downloads sse3 package... Sep 02 08:46:28 vlj, if you get scriptlet errors when the packages are installing I think that is due to lack of ssse3 Sep 02 08:46:50 ok Sep 02 08:49:36 how can I download the arm packages ? Sep 02 08:51:05 I see you are pointing to something in yout OBS tree, is that a EMGD kernel? Sep 02 08:53:15 no it is dkms and customised xorg ;) Sep 02 09:27:06 vgrade: meego wiki does not allow to upgrade any file ?? Sep 02 09:35:59 vlj, have you created an account? Sep 02 09:36:08 yep Sep 02 09:36:22 which page are you trying to update Sep 02 09:36:27 but it seems that "update file" does nothing Sep 02 09:37:28 http://wiki.meego.com/File:Nvidia-meego.ks this one Sep 02 09:38:23 ah, updating a file Sep 02 09:38:54 can you create a new one and update the link? Sep 02 09:39:07 as a work around Sep 02 09:39:09 well I think so Sep 02 09:39:13 but it is a bug or ? Sep 02 09:40:19 i would say its a bug as you seem to have 3 other revisions of the file Sep 02 09:40:28 ok Sep 02 09:58:29 meep Sep 02 10:14:43 Meego on N900 - Is the modem-drivers in place? Sep 02 10:14:52 working on it Sep 02 10:15:26 So in a week or so? Sep 02 10:15:36 depending if we get a feature approval Sep 02 10:15:45 Mmm Sep 02 10:16:33 so are the modem drivers in a "beta" state? (working, need testing) Sep 02 10:17:05 everything needs testing :) Sep 02 10:18:04 Stskeeps: What's testing? ;-P Sep 02 10:18:14 common sense :p Sep 02 10:18:27 Foobar Sep 02 10:18:49 I wonder what happens if you enter "foobar" as a location on GPS Sep 02 10:19:07 CosmoHill: Probably will self-detonate. Sep 02 10:19:38 Duckboot: And create a wormhole. Sep 02 10:19:43 http://maps.ovi.com/services/place/528u15p0-8184930bad97496f9b6ba11c98802346 Sep 02 10:20:59 CosmoHill: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Foobar&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.909425,78.134766&ie=UTF8&hq=Foobar&hnear=&t=h&z=13&iwloc=A Sep 02 10:21:19 cool Sep 02 10:22:08 Actually - On maps.google.com you get 209 results when searching for Foobar Sep 02 10:22:35 Hahaha - foobar GmbH Sep 02 10:22:54 i only get 208 ;) Sep 02 10:23:13 hena: That's cause I'm special Sep 02 10:24:03 * CosmoHill zooms in on ovi maps Sep 02 10:24:07 I can see my car ;) Sep 02 10:24:08 :) Sep 02 10:25:06 i think I can see my car twice... Sep 02 10:32:13 probably a weird question Sep 02 10:32:19 but where is the application installer on handset? :) Sep 02 10:32:36 if you don't know then all hope is lost Sep 02 10:32:45 well i know where zyepr is Sep 02 10:32:47 or you need glasses Sep 02 10:53:15 intel open source guy trying to get an intel wifi card working on MeeGo, http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-September/005388.html, this may be interesting Sep 02 10:53:35 Is discussion on meego deb packages in the agenda for the conference at Dublin? Sep 02 10:53:43 (i saw some bof happening) Sep 02 11:02:57 any way to turn off meego on n900 besides removing battery? Sep 02 11:03:50 ssh in, reboot Sep 02 11:05:04 hey Stskeeps, i noticed a lot of tearing in the latest build. hope latest gfx drivers are not implemented yet >.< Sep 02 11:05:10 would "shutdown -h now" work too? Sep 02 11:06:45 th3hate: "poweroff" ? Sep 02 11:07:09 th3hate: not implemented yet :) Sep 02 11:07:23 vlj, power button doesn't work Sep 02 11:07:31 Stskeeps, thanks Sep 02 11:07:32 I mean "poweroff" command in shell Sep 02 11:08:02 it seems to be an alias to shutdown -h now Sep 02 11:08:14 at least it does the same on my computers Sep 02 11:10:26 portrait mode is great and wifi works, we're getting quite close to a stable release i guess Sep 02 11:26:34 Stskeeps: AWESOME stuff Sep 02 11:26:34 ] Sep 02 11:29:36 slaine: indeed, only standing on the shoulders of giants though Sep 02 11:30:20 :nod: congrats to all involved. It's great to see this kind of progress Sep 02 12:17:56 is there anybody run n900's ux on qemu now? Sep 02 12:18:07 Stskeeps, nice line that one, the giants one, sums up OSS Sep 02 12:18:18 or science.. Sep 02 12:18:19 P Sep 02 12:18:26 and what can be achieved Sep 02 12:19:45 * lcuk submitted keynote with that title :P Sep 02 12:22:03 Stskeeps, you didn't see why though did you? I have a little tool which takes a package and shows the direct and indirect dependencies along with their maintainers Sep 02 12:22:17 it makes a lovely thing and humanises all the excellent work Sep 02 12:22:36 lcuk: hrm? sorry, i need nutrition right now :P Sep 02 12:22:45 good point Sep 02 12:23:16 good point, lunch time Sep 02 12:33:50 Hello! I can't find update-rc.d script in daily MeeGo release (beagle board), where is it? Sep 02 12:34:23 bollocks Sep 02 12:34:29 I special orderd a part for the laptop Sep 02 12:34:31 and now I can't find it Sep 02 12:36:05 found it :D Sep 02 12:36:06 ObKo: chkconfig Sep 02 12:41:16 thanks Sep 02 12:41:46 there is still no sse3-less img of meego ? Sep 02 13:03:16 Digia's Qt Quick demo is pretty Sep 02 13:08:15 hmm... I installed new core update and now terminal won't start... :D ideas? Sep 02 14:21:33 hehee Sep 02 14:21:45 someone wants to find our what ports are open on the network Sep 02 14:21:52 so he's just port scanned 127.0.0.1 Sep 02 14:22:05 clever Sep 02 14:27:30 CosmoHill: In promiscious mode? :-p Sep 02 14:28:06 I'll see if I can get him to brute force ssh at that address Sep 02 14:39:11 * Stskeeps yawns Sep 02 14:39:52 * CosmoHill shoves an orange in Sep 02 14:40:05 it's one of your five a day Sep 02 15:12:04 Stupid question of the day: the changelog for the 1.1 Development Release looks all very interesting. How does one test the Handset UX (either in the SDK or whatever) corresponding to that release? (Specifically, I want to test the email client ;-)) Sep 02 15:14:21 Jaffa: try out meego on n900? :P Sep 02 15:51:33 Stskeeps: Could do. Where does one get the 1.1 Dev Release image for putting on an eMMC card? :) Sep 02 15:52:52 Jaffa: weekly code drops are available here: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php though you'll need an N900 IMEI to access them Sep 02 15:53:21 stephg: Not a problem. Got one of those. And that's compatible with http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC ? Sep 02 15:54:28 yeah more or less; download the image, dd to SD card (either in or out of the device) then use flasher to tell the N900 to boot from a kernel Sep 02 15:54:52 see also http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757 Sep 02 15:55:10 from section 6 onwards :) Sep 02 15:56:24 stephg: Ta Sep 02 16:07:02 Tablets Dev is always so slow. Sep 02 16:07:42 Jaffa: buy a microsd card Sep 02 16:07:42 :P Sep 02 16:16:45 ahhhh my foot that was painful Sep 02 17:00:37 is anyone here from Nokia that can maybe help me? Sep 02 17:01:20 I'm not from nokia but what's your problem bennry? Sep 02 17:03:04 I posted a list of stuff yesterday. I'm going to find it and repaste, ok? Sep 02 17:03:39 sure, but if you can tell me the ~ time that you posted I can find it in the logs too :) Sep 02 17:06:43 I have a question about mic-image-creator. I'm trying to use it to create a .raw image for the N900 using the daily build repo. I'm using the handset-armv7l-n900.ks file from the meego GIT tree. Sep 02 17:06:52 With command: "mic-image-creator --run-mode=0 --cache=mycachedir --format=raw --arch=armv7l --save-kernel --config=handset-armv7l-n900.ks" Then doing disc dump (dd) to get that .raw image to a 4GB Kingston SD card. Sep 02 17:07:01 ok Sep 02 17:07:02 The back cover is on. I run flasher-3.5 to flash the vmlinux kernel that's created and it fails every time to boot the file system. I've done this over and over. I've even used the prebuilt images from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php. Sep 02 17:07:05 seems fine, what's the problem Sep 02 17:07:11 Including every .ks file from that site, as well as every .raw/vmlinux combo (except today's drop). The only image that works is the "Closed" raw image which only boots to a bash shell on the N900. Sep 02 17:07:53 what platform are you doing the build on? fedora or ubuntu or something else? Sep 02 17:08:00 ubuntu 10.04 Sep 02 17:08:09 okies Sep 02 17:08:35 how did you install MIC? Sep 02 17:08:42 right. Sep 02 17:08:47 let me find the website. Sep 02 17:09:14 I mean was it as a package, or did you do the source install (git clone'd it then built it yourself) Sep 02 17:09:36 yeah Sep 02 17:09:38 taht's what I did. Sep 02 17:09:40 git clone Sep 02 17:09:47 there were some dependency issues Sep 02 17:09:57 namely yum :) Sep 02 17:10:00 ha Sep 02 17:10:00 andr pm Sep 02 17:10:01 yes Sep 02 17:10:32 http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#Installing_requirements_for_Ubuntu_10.04 Sep 02 17:10:32 ok so doing it with git should work just fine, when did you do that? (yesterday, last week, last month etc. more recent is better) Sep 02 17:10:36 jaja Sep 02 17:10:41 that's what I did whcih fixed the build from git Sep 02 17:10:46 two days ago Sep 02 17:10:50 :) Sep 02 17:10:59 so it's recent then :) Sep 02 17:11:01 hm ok Sep 02 17:11:12 right. Sep 02 17:11:18 bennry: what SD card do you have and how do you dd the raw images from meego-codedrop? Sep 02 17:11:21 so I was thinking that the problem can't just be mic. Sep 02 17:11:34 if the official images also don't work, I agree with you Sep 02 17:11:48 I've copied images onto both 2GB and 8GB SD cards Sep 02 17:11:56 Stskeeps: 'dd bs=4k if=<.raw> of=/dev/sdb' Sep 02 17:12:10 I've used a 16GB sandisk and a 4GB kingston Sep 02 17:12:12 bennry: made sure nothing's mounted from /dev/sdb first too? Sep 02 17:12:18 sdb1, sdb.. etc Sep 02 17:12:27 yeah that's what I do, other than bs=4096 rather than 4k (same thing) Sep 02 17:12:31 stskeeps: that could be the problem Sep 02 17:12:34 could be automounter Sep 02 17:12:36 * bennry embarrassed Sep 02 17:12:40 brb Sep 02 17:12:43 okies Sep 02 17:12:48 (going to get a beer too, brb as well) Sep 02 17:13:04 stephg: steph from fmc? Sep 02 17:14:21 jaja Sep 02 17:14:28 how's it going Sep 02 17:14:57 good, we had calls working in meego on n900 earlier :0 Sep 02 17:15:05 called someone i knew with it Sep 02 17:15:40 when you say calls, do you mean conf calls? if so I may not be the same steph ;) Sep 02 17:15:51 voice calls Sep 02 17:15:52 :) Sep 02 17:16:03 then that's not me then I'm afraid Sep 02 17:16:07 fair enough Sep 02 17:16:15 though I am steph on both maemo and meego forums Sep 02 17:16:44 well, if you were in the meego n900 thread.. Sep 02 17:16:44 :P Sep 02 17:16:46 and now I'm curious who steph is ;) Sep 02 17:17:18 well yeah I'm on that thread moaning about what on earth is going on with the nokia proprietary packages Sep 02 17:17:38 been meaning to reply to that Sep 02 17:17:38 :P Sep 02 17:17:52 hopefully we'll get to a point soon where we don't even have meego-codedrop Sep 02 17:18:39 here's hoping! the new code drop 201008310 1.0.90.whatever doesn't even build for me as the repos don't seem to be there Sep 02 17:18:48 what --arch= do you use? Sep 02 17:18:48 :P Sep 02 17:19:02 it's not easy being a generalist, let me tell you. Sep 02 17:19:10 7l, again using the ks from codedrop Sep 02 17:19:10 one year away from Linux, and I'm basically starting from scratch. Sep 02 17:19:25 bennry: it's like riding a bike Sep 02 17:19:43 stephg: I know, but I have to wait until these bruises heel before I get back on Sep 02 17:19:56 *heal Sep 02 17:20:18 Where are the latest instructions for installing MeeGo to a MicroSD? Sep 02 17:20:53 microsd ? Sep 02 17:20:56 just dd the fscker Sep 02 17:21:05 Is that the only step? :) Sep 02 17:21:07 are there any n900 kernel folks ehre ? Sep 02 17:21:09 what arjan says Sep 02 17:21:10 :) Sep 02 17:21:26 GeneralAntilles: if you have the right image for your device, yes it should be Sep 02 17:21:41 I do that all the time for my mrst cdk (and aava when I manage to borrow one) Sep 02 17:21:42 GeneralAntilles: and load the zimage Sep 02 17:21:50 (we don't boot from a sd boot sector, so) Sep 02 17:21:56 arjan: only maintainer, ameya's gone for the day Sep 02 17:23:41 arjan: do you have an overview how the progress towards btrfs on aava/handset is going? Sep 02 17:23:52 as that affects our ability too i guess Sep 02 17:32:00 Looks like acceleration's broken Sep 02 17:32:10 Black screen with white square for a mouse pointer. Sep 02 17:32:24 Nevermind, long boot. Sep 02 17:32:45 that happens all the time Sep 02 17:33:09 WiFi's still not working, I assume? Sep 02 17:33:14 wifi is working Sep 02 17:33:18 as of last friday Sep 02 17:33:26 1.0.90.something 20100831 Sep 02 17:33:28 that build Sep 02 17:33:50 Just taking forever to load the desktop. Sep 02 17:34:08 desktop seems flakey (I mean, even more so) to me Sep 02 17:34:20 second time I booted into it it was completely unresponsive Sep 02 17:34:31 is the wifi fully configurable? Sep 02 17:34:47 its a great thing it works at all Sep 02 17:35:03 works for me, WPA-PSK, I guess for others ymmv Sep 02 17:35:24 but by far the best thing about it is that ssh works Sep 02 17:35:29 stephg, i mean ability to use control panel to configure ips and gateway etc Sep 02 17:36:01 I haven't looked at the manual settings, but I can add my PSK and it works with my AP via DHCP Sep 02 17:36:08 all done in the UX Sep 02 17:36:48 reasonable enough Sep 02 17:36:51 * thiago_home still reads "Phase-Shift Keying" every time, even after 6 hours out of the University Sep 02 17:37:17 6 years Sep 02 17:37:44 lol Sep 02 17:37:47 bit of a difference :P Sep 02 17:37:50 Stskeeps: we shold have been on btrfs already Sep 02 17:37:57 Stskeeps: sadly it seems MIC2 is buggy ;( Sep 02 17:38:09 and we seem to be unable to fix a simple bug like that Sep 02 17:38:14 * thiago_home sees arjan and remembers he has to ask something Sep 02 17:38:19 now if I could only remember what... Sep 02 17:38:22 likewise Sep 02 17:38:37 oh I remember mine :) Sep 02 17:40:37 how usable is meego at the moment on the N900? Sep 02 17:40:50 GeneralAntilles: takes forever due to various reasons, am tracking the issues and providing fixes Sep 02 17:41:28 MaikelZ: not very, not if you actually want to use it Sep 02 17:41:58 it is however rapidly reaching something that could technically be a primary device :P Sep 02 17:42:07 once browser, 3g data is working and call audio is integrated.. Sep 02 17:42:17 arjan, now the EMGD drivers have been released officially (with MeeGo support) is there a plan to provide a download image with a click through license ala IEGD Moblin? Sep 02 17:42:45 how do the basic fuctions work, calling and texting Sep 02 17:43:02 MaikelZ: not integrated yet, we need to get approval for potentially breaking things (feature freeze) Sep 02 17:43:03 Don't. Sep 02 17:44:30 ok, thx for the info, so my experimenting has to wait ;) Sep 02 17:46:47 Well, that was exciting Sep 02 17:48:48 GAN900: unoptimized qt, big copies on startup, tracker being malconfigured (in that weekly) adds up to a bad experience, yeah Sep 02 17:49:20 Stskeeps: ... and don't even try to build it ;) Sep 02 17:49:32 stephg: we use exact same .ks to build ours, so it's weird Sep 02 17:50:11 that's what I don't get. I can't even build 20100831 as the repo is broke:- Sep 02 17:50:30 also don't take me personally, you guys are doing the real work Sep 02 17:50:32 stephg: get me a build log and i can tell you if it looks wrong Sep 02 17:51:05 Stskeeps: should meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.90.1.20100831.1.ks build ? Sep 02 17:51:11 stephg: i bloody hope so :) Sep 02 17:51:15 Error: failed to create image : URLGrabber error: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 : http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.1.20100831.1/core/repos/armv7l/packages//repodata/repomd.xml : http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.1.20100831.1/core/repos/armv7l/packages//repodata/repomd.xml Sep 02 17:51:20 stephg: ah Sep 02 17:51:21 right Sep 02 17:51:33 stephg: there should have been a version up with the right buildid Sep 02 17:51:39 you'd want to get 90.0 Sep 02 17:51:55 oo Sep 02 17:51:56 okies Sep 02 17:53:26 that ks is the weekly vanilla one on codedrop; clearly it's building otherwise there wouldn't be weeklies but I am just missing the final piece of the puzzle Sep 02 17:54:03 basically it went along lines of: there was a build published on repo.meego.com, we generated image, build id on repo.meego.com was wrong, we regenerated.. Sep 02 17:54:13 aaaaaaaaaaaaah Sep 02 17:54:17 that would explain it Sep 02 17:54:21 and somewhere along there we forgot to reupload :) Sep 02 17:54:35 I guess the same will have happened the week before (with the missing proprietary packages) Sep 02 17:54:42 nah Sep 02 17:54:47 no? Sep 02 17:54:54 that's another good mystery Sep 02 17:55:29 was anyone else able to reproduce that one (I mean, I'm a moron, but I've done my best to make sure I eliminated every other possibility) Sep 02 17:55:44 been too buried in work to reproduce Sep 02 17:55:54 if you in the future run into similar bugs, file a bug Sep 02 17:56:31 mark it 'ARM' as arch and i'll probably catch it Sep 02 17:57:27 is a fine balance to draw between genuine bugs and irritating end users Sep 02 17:57:44 so I was hoping someone else would be able to test (other than your good self) but noone has Sep 02 17:58:08 stephg: the thing is that any given porter or device adaptor will be indistinguisable from an irritating end user in the start.. Sep 02 17:59:16 yeah, I understand that, but as you say the whole codedrop thing will go away as well so I was figuring I'd let it all bed down before shouting about it Sep 02 17:59:31 nah, cos same .ks'es would be in use to some extent :) Sep 02 17:59:56 if it's worthwhile I can open one about 20100824.1 and provide my --debug and --verbose output Sep 02 18:00:05 thanks Sep 02 18:00:07 it just doesn't say anything useful :( Sep 02 18:00:16 please censor out the /md5/ part on repository.maemo.org Sep 02 18:00:16 :P Sep 02 18:00:35 assign to carsten@maemo.org Sep 02 18:00:55 okies Sep 02 18:00:58 will crack on with that Sep 02 18:22:26 Carsten are you there? Sep 02 18:28:00 stephg: no, playing openttd :) Sep 02 18:28:02 is there any way to get serial via USB or some remote terminal on the N900 during bootup? Sep 02 18:28:14 haha Sep 02 18:28:20 jig? Sep 02 18:28:25 nice Sep 02 18:28:30 bennry: ssh in over usb Sep 02 18:28:38 bennry: what Stskeeps just said Sep 02 18:28:43 everyone is too quick Sep 02 18:28:55 bennry: you can get seria console using test pads on the phone Sep 02 18:28:58 serial* Sep 02 18:29:04 there is a pinout on wiki Sep 02 18:29:38 Stskeeps you want every portion on a URL that starts with 2 obfuscating ja? Sep 02 18:29:42 jacekowski: thanks, that's what I was looking for. Sep 02 18:30:42 stephg: yep Sep 02 18:30:55 Stskeeps: I think I found the shared-mime-info issue Sep 02 18:31:05 okies Sep 02 18:31:05 Stskeeps: looks like it was an accidental removal Sep 02 18:31:06 bennry: you need level converter Sep 02 18:31:08 bennry: and a jig Sep 02 18:31:09 I'll add it back Sep 02 18:31:17 bennry: to connect it all together Sep 02 18:31:26 auke: cool Sep 02 18:36:41 Stskeeps: can you confirm that running update-mime-database /usr/share/mime fixes tracker? Sep 02 18:36:58 Stskeeps: don't have a handset here ready to go Sep 02 18:38:06 auke: what's the bug # for the tracker? Sep 02 18:38:21 6162 Sep 02 18:38:37 I have my N900 infront of me so let me check I have the right image Sep 02 18:39:12 it's a bug allright I just want to see if it actually effectively fixes the issue if we add the update-mime-db back Sep 02 18:39:26 iow not something else also gone missing Sep 02 18:39:57 will I be able to actually test it tho? bug says: meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.1.20100901.1-raw and the latest I have access to would be 20100831-1.0.90.1 Sep 02 18:40:28 ah that looks like a daily Sep 02 18:41:05 bug is platform independent Sep 02 18:42:07 stephg: bug still exists Sep 02 18:42:24 * auke goes to lunch with ceferron Sep 02 18:42:26 bbl Sep 02 18:45:41 stephg: without installing shared-mime-info you can't check the bug Sep 02 18:45:47 ah ok Sep 02 18:55:01 Can someone direct me to the release feature list? Sep 02 18:55:04 slash bug list? Sep 02 18:55:32 bugs.meego.com Sep 02 18:57:38 thank you. Sep 02 18:57:40 hugs.meego.com?' Sep 02 18:58:13 * CosmoHill hugs tybollt Sep 02 18:59:02 it's all about the hugs Sep 02 18:59:47 and with that I run away. Good night all, maybe see you in the morning Sep 02 19:42:32 auke: at least update-mime-database /usr/share/mime populates /usr/share/mime nicely Sep 02 19:49:26 Stskeeps: lol but does it fix tracker? Sep 02 19:51:39 auke: i can boot up the image, will take a little bit :) Sep 02 19:52:01 * Stskeeps looks for his sd card Sep 02 19:54:36 Stskeeps: the -one- sd card you have right? ;) Sep 02 19:55:39 tybollt_: surprisingily i have two microsd Sep 02 19:55:40 :P Sep 02 19:57:19 I've been working on some written IRC guidelines: http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines Sep 02 19:57:30 trying to keep them very simple Sep 02 19:58:00 don't hesitate to improve them :) Sep 02 19:58:25 aw, we can't be jerks? Sep 02 19:58:26 :P Sep 02 19:58:27 ;) Sep 02 19:58:57 stskeeps: :) Sep 02 19:59:38 DawnFoster1, pastebin! Sep 02 19:59:44 stskeeps: do have any documentation on the meetbot anywhere? Who to contact with issues, etc. Sep 02 19:59:47 do we have a prefered service? Sep 02 19:59:53 that might be better for Stskeeps Sep 02 19:59:56 lcuk: ooh, good point - feel free to add it Sep 02 20:00:43 Too many bulletpoints under the meeting guidelines. Sep 02 20:00:59 DawnFoster1: well, meetbot contact is me, bugs go upstream, documentation at wiki.debian.org/MeetBot I believe Sep 02 20:01:27 GAN900, take out the smile and have fun line then :P Sep 02 20:01:33 you never use it anyway ;) :P Sep 02 20:02:52 stskeeps: yeah, I linked to the debian page Sep 02 20:02:59 arjan: omap3camera or v4l changes in particular? Sep 02 20:03:19 GAN900: feel free to streamline it Sep 02 20:03:40 arjan: (if it oops'es anything else than n900, ofcourse it should be removed, just curious what blows up) Sep 02 20:04:21 DawnFoster1: one section we probably should add, like, general policy regarding #meego* namespace (community office should be represented as founder flags in case owner is no longer with the project or gets run over by a bus) .. etc Sep 02 20:04:48 actually, we do have documentation on Meetbot - found it here: http://wiki.meego.com/Web_infrastructure/IRC Sep 02 20:05:12 good point Sep 02 20:05:48 I'll document something about creating new channels & have them add you & me with founder flags Sep 02 20:05:51 or for a #meego* channel you must be listed X,Y,Z :P Sep 02 20:05:59 exactly Sep 02 20:06:00 at X,Y,Z i mean Sep 02 20:09:28 DawnFoster1, I'd merge the 3 announce lines. Sep 02 20:16:54 auke: confirmed on tracker works Sep 02 20:17:13 Stskeeps: awesome, I'm already prepping the obs submission Sep 02 20:17:28 i see pretty pictures in photos viewer Sep 02 20:22:16 ok, I streamlined the meeting guidelines & added a section about creating new channels: http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines Sep 02 20:23:13 looks good Sep 02 20:23:25 well, and "Remember to register your channel" Sep 02 20:23:26 :P Sep 02 20:25:39 anyhow, time for sleep Sep 02 20:25:40 bbl Sep 02 20:27:44 stskeeps: thanks added (with a link to how) - night :) Sep 02 20:36:32 Ah, hell Sep 02 20:36:36 Edit collision Sep 02 20:37:02 Nevermind, then. Sep 02 20:47:16 Stskeeps: how do I make a usable n900 image? Sep 02 20:47:27 * arjan wants to be able to test kernels by booting a full UI Sep 02 20:48:22 hey arjan Sep 02 20:50:58 hi, my friend said xephyr could also work with nvidia graphics card under linux, can it be true ? Sep 02 20:59:03 any plan to use qt4.7 in meego-netbook-1.1 . i m compiling qt4.7 it's take more than 10 hours. It's only for developping with libmeegotouch Sep 02 20:59:09 sorry hello Sep 02 20:59:32 we're already at qt4.7 Sep 02 20:59:38 well the final beta, but still Sep 02 21:02:42 when i try to compil libmeegotouch it's say me to install qt4.7. Sep 02 21:08:05 http://www.merimobiles.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MERI0306 <- has anyone tried to get MeeGo running on this device? Sep 02 21:11:50 LoCusF_, is the device sse3 or arm ? Sep 02 21:13:21 i don't know what is TI OMAP3 CORTEX A8 600MHz Sep 02 21:16:26 arjan, can I update from meego-notebook-stable01 to final beta? I have tested to simply change the repository but of course that don't work Sep 02 21:16:34 or I must reinstall Sep 02 21:16:49 I don't know what meego-notebook-stable01 is Sep 02 21:16:52 niala: arm, its the same processor as the N900 Sep 02 21:17:19 the first meego from day one Sep 02 21:18:24 netbook sorry no notebook Sep 02 21:21:45 LoCusF_, i can't help you any more but may be http://meego.com/devices/handset/handset-supported-hardware Sep 02 21:21:49 Stskeeps: Why is the backlight modification of rc.local still necessary in the latest images? (see http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757) - seems an easy fix to include Sep 02 21:22:59 niala: I know Sep 02 21:24:14 niala: the device isn't a handset, its basically a tablet without any cellural features, so I won't be needing the handset code Sep 02 21:24:25 the netbook packages as armv7l would rock Sep 02 21:28:30 LoCusF_, I think netbook is only for atom. but sometimes my english is so bad and i misunderstand Sep 02 21:29:22 niala: you are correct Sep 02 21:29:30 on the netbook is only for atom :D Sep 02 21:32:33 the first netbook was ARM Sep 02 21:32:50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_netBook Sep 02 21:33:17 superior hinge placement for airplanes Sep 02 21:33:43 hey guys Sep 02 21:34:29 pupnik: heh, that sure looks nice Sep 02 21:35:20 had firefox running on it Sep 02 21:35:24 debian arm Sep 02 21:49:26 Jaffa, outdated instructions? Sep 02 21:49:33 Jaffa, didn't need to do it here. Sep 02 21:50:37 GAN900, since you haven't disconnected your GAN900 machine and have been playing tonight, safe to assume you have a second now :P Sep 02 21:50:53 lcuk, second N900? Sep 02 21:50:54 No Sep 02 21:51:12 GAN900 is an irssi proxy on my Mac Pro. Sep 02 21:51:21 ahh so its fake900 :P Sep 02 21:51:56 <_maniac_> hi. Sep 02 21:52:05 <_maniac_> how can I build meego from source? Sep 02 21:52:19 get the source code, compile it Sep 02 21:52:26 <_maniac_> srcrpms? Sep 02 21:52:36 that's one way Sep 02 21:52:39 <_maniac_> can I do that without using OBS? Sep 02 21:52:44 sure Sep 02 21:52:49 <_maniac_> great Sep 02 21:52:53 rpmbuild works Sep 02 21:53:00 hi, my friend said xephyr could also work with nvidia graphics card under linux, can it be true ? Sep 02 21:53:02 or you can rpmunpack them and compile manually Sep 02 21:53:06 <_maniac_> is there git or svn repo for sources? Sep 02 21:53:21 meego.gitorious.com Sep 02 21:53:25 <_maniac_> I'm going to try to build meego for my older laptop. Sep 02 21:58:07 heh, I was just taking a look a meego.gitorious.com, and saw a few commits dated 2037, 2030, 2019. Is it getting git commits through some time-wormhole? Sep 02 21:58:32 here: http://meego.gitorious.com/maemo-multimedia Sep 02 21:59:50 csdb, heh, that's git power, you should not use the option --from-future in git pull, you pulled too much Sep 02 22:02:34 time travel is a key part of MeeGo, but shhhh, it's supposed to be a secret :) Sep 02 22:02:40 GAN900: Super long filenames and poor sort order meant wrong image was burned Sep 02 22:02:45 Annoying Sep 02 22:03:08 GAN900: And now my connection died half way through downloading the latest and the stupid PHP form thing makes resuming the download painful Sep 02 22:45:10 Jaffa, those tablets-dev listings are the worst. Sep 02 22:45:22 Talk about being anti-contributor. Sep 02 22:48:58 good night Sep 02 23:47:49 bye **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 03 02:59:57 2010