**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 20 02:59:57 2010 Sep 20 03:02:51 ? Sep 20 03:04:17 Katie-Bug8585, bug 8585 does not exist on bugs.meego.com whats up Sep 20 03:05:50 So confused Sep 20 03:06:02 What the heck Sep 20 03:09:56 I'm guessing katie-bug was born in 1985 Sep 20 03:12:06 kfx, or from the far future? Sep 20 03:12:37 johnx: that would explain her confusion! Sep 20 03:13:07 by 8585 IRC conventions and etiquette may differ slightly from our own Sep 20 03:13:28 I'm sure the freenode lag is causing problems with her neural interface Sep 20 05:12:05 morning Sep 20 06:49:36 hi all Sep 20 06:51:28 is there any gsm 0710 mux component in meego? Sep 20 06:51:58 I don't think it's done in software Sep 20 06:58:00 http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-releases/2010-August/000164.html seems to suggest that there is a gsm muxer in the works Sep 20 06:58:57 sorry for being slow, is meego out for N900 ? Sep 20 07:00:03 yes Sep 20 07:00:14 by "out", it means "there's a release that you can install" Sep 20 07:00:27 lolloo: if by meego you mean meego.com and not a nokia product, then yes, it's out with development releases, but not meego 1.1, that's first in october Sep 20 07:19:36 is this the proper place to ask for help with installation? Sep 20 07:21:29 how much hd space should I partition for the os? Sep 20 07:21:43 Hi Sep 20 07:21:52 all depends what you want to do :) Sep 20 07:22:28 for development of apps 4G shall be more than enough Sep 20 07:22:49 if you want to compile some libs such as qt... that can became short Sep 20 07:24:33 so, is it possible to (running win7) partition about 6gb of free space, write the meego os img to that, and then install it to that partition from there? Sep 20 07:25:13 now I am confuse :) Sep 20 07:25:21 sorry Sep 20 07:25:37 basically, I don't have a usb drive or a disk drive on my netbook Sep 20 07:25:51 I will suggest that you run that inside a emulator Sep 20 07:26:05 :) Sep 20 07:26:30 like... some sort of virtual drive image mounting software? Sep 20 07:27:25 a virtual machine inside your own operating system Sep 20 07:28:25 oh, but I don't want to use win7 anymore. Sep 20 07:29:05 you want to use it as primary operating system ? Sep 20 07:29:37 i want to use meego as the primary os Sep 20 07:30:07 Kame_, it's a lot less risky to use a USB drive, even a small old one would help Sep 20 07:31:06 and I do not think that meego is ready for that :) to be a primary operating system. It still under hard development ! Sep 20 07:31:21 you shall try it out first :) Sep 20 07:31:33 hahaha Sep 20 07:31:56 yeah, the only usb drive I have is 128mb Sep 20 07:32:00 :/ Sep 20 07:32:10 Kame_, try some other linux distrub for the primary..) Sep 20 07:32:31 Kame_, do you feel comfortable with command line tools that work directly on your hard drive? Sep 20 07:32:39 spurvewt: what do you suggest? Sep 20 07:33:21 johnx: sure Sep 20 07:33:42 Kame_, mm.. I like archlinux..) Sep 20 07:34:07 ubutu :) Sep 20 07:34:15 *ubuntu Sep 20 07:34:39 but maybe it's not for the start of linux way.. for the start it's good with ubuntu, debian, suse, etc..) Sep 20 07:36:06 yeah, this little netbook's keyboard is so awkward, i was looking for an os that would flow really nicely with a touchscreen. Sep 20 07:36:49 Kame_, I'd recommend installing ubuntu and using that to do the partitioning for meego. I think there's a version of ubuntu that installs inside a windows partition Sep 20 07:36:56 some friends of mine use various linux distros but they all seem to favor running things from some sort of terminal ( is that the word?) Sep 20 07:38:03 Morning, all Sep 20 07:38:48 johnx: oh man... so use win7 to partition for ubuntu, and then use ubuntu to format/partition over the win7 partion? Sep 20 07:39:52 well, actually, you could probably partition in win7, dd the image to the new partition, then try and convince the windows bootloader to start it Sep 20 07:39:55 sounds like a lot of work though Sep 20 07:40:18 if you want to get serious about removing Win7 Sep 20 07:40:31 burn a linux cd and install it Sep 20 07:40:53 what you're basically saying is quit being stubborn and buy a usb drive. xD Sep 20 07:41:06 and.. you will have a a option to delete win7 Sep 20 07:41:35 fabiomssilva: i don't have a disk drive Sep 20 07:41:58 Kame_, yes. buy a usb stick. or borrow one from a friend Sep 20 07:42:25 you could probably use the 128MB stick and debian 'net install' disk to do the partitioning actually Sep 20 07:45:10 moin Sep 20 07:48:25 thanks y'all Sep 20 07:48:50 I'm going to go look into some of these methods before i give up and go buy a memory stick. xD Sep 20 08:32:42 $timeofday Sep 20 08:33:28 Myrtti, I won't give it to you :D Sep 20 08:38:29 johnx: I hate you anyway ;-) Sep 20 08:38:57 yeah, I get that a lot Sep 20 09:36:32 concerning the 3 day of MeeGo conference Sep 20 09:36:46 mm? Sep 20 09:36:47 What are the steps to organize some conference/workshop that day? Sep 20 09:36:54 show up :) Sep 20 09:37:00 look up 'barcamp' Sep 20 09:37:35 Yes Stskeeps Sep 20 09:37:42 but the thing is how to reserve some room Sep 20 09:37:43 etc Sep 20 09:37:51 :nod: Sep 20 09:38:04 we're working on the exact details, but it is a very ad-hoc approach Sep 20 09:38:30 ok if you need help with that Sep 20 09:38:34 I find some help Sep 20 09:38:38 :nod: Sep 20 10:53:34 hm Sep 20 10:53:36 I wonder Sep 20 10:56:24 In the kickstart files you can have groups @MeeGo Core where is it stated what packages is included in this groups ? Sep 20 11:14:01 there, sent the question on the forum Sep 20 11:14:22 Trollkarlen: package-groups or something on meego.gitorious.org Sep 20 11:15:49 so whats the kernel version going to be in meego 1.1 Sep 20 11:15:54 .35? Sep 20 11:15:56 3.5 Sep 20 11:15:58 er, .35 Sep 20 11:16:03 ok Sep 20 11:33:43 I wish I made some sense in that... Sep 20 12:03:45 I think that no one work for toshiba here ? ;) Sep 20 12:05:40 Myrtti, you need to paste a link here Sep 20 12:05:51 otherwise how will people find your post in the forum Sep 20 12:06:54 well anyways, I was wondering is there any concious effort on the accessability front of meego Sep 20 12:07:04 or is it all just piggybacking on gnome etc Sep 20 12:07:20 http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1502 so I posted a forum thread about it. Sep 20 12:07:34 Myrtti: well, in #meego-arm we have a blind guy working to make meego/n900 a proper accessible device with libmeegotouch and such Sep 20 12:07:40 for his area Sep 20 12:08:16 Stskeeps: I'd like to see the accessability issue something that is taken into account on all areas of MeeGo :-) Sep 20 12:08:20 Myrtti: agreed Sep 20 12:09:58 Stskeeps, touchscreens are generally not best for accessiblity - especially for blind people. and haptics would need multitple levels of interaction to know the differences Sep 20 12:10:12 I've got my own visually impaired moments when I have an oncoming migraine attack and it would be nice to know that the subject of making MeeGo kick ass for people of different disabilities Sep 20 12:10:13 lcuk: even a button that equal's "tab" is useful.. Sep 20 12:10:20 is taken care of Sep 20 12:10:21 yes Sep 20 12:10:39 lcuk: then how come this person in his blogpost is head over heels about iphone? Sep 20 12:10:42 Stskeeps, tab was important for coders, its vital for blind people :) Sep 20 12:10:55 what do they do different and can we do something similar or BETTER? Sep 20 12:11:14 i like the tdriver approach.. that basically every object in the ui of libmeegotouch is inspectable Sep 20 12:11:20 iPhones are shiny Sep 20 12:11:30 Myrtti, i wasnt implying its impossible Sep 20 12:11:33 RST38h: if it shines, he can't see it ;-) Sep 20 12:11:53 Yes, we can create a better cult, with free whores to anyone who buys 12+ Meego devices Sep 20 12:11:54 insert dry, ironic laughter here Sep 20 12:12:06 RST38h: that was uncalled for Sep 20 12:12:28 Myrtti: Just being practical and considering all possibilities Sep 20 12:12:36 ... Sep 20 12:13:00 Myrtti, close your eyes and use any device Sep 20 12:13:22 lcuk: Then the dumb phone will win as it can be operated with eyes closed Sep 20 12:13:28 So can a smart phone. Sep 20 12:13:42 My friend uses a nexus one because he can't see and it's got the best voice control Sep 20 12:13:44 RST38h, look deeply for the reason for that Sep 20 12:13:52 right, the discussion is ruined for me now, I give up. Sep 20 12:14:12 can't get the idea of misogynistic comments about iphones and whores out my head now. Sep 20 12:14:18 * Myrtti goes back to work Sep 20 12:14:26 Myrtti, dont let one comment throw you off track Sep 20 12:14:33 your lack of head management isn't particularly interesting Sep 20 12:14:51 Myrtti: Actually, wasn't any misogynism in it Sep 20 12:15:06 Rhe Sep 20 12:15:28 RST38h: that's just projection from a world where only women can be whores Sep 20 12:15:37 Myrtti: But yes, the female userbase will need a different incentive Sep 20 12:16:41 kfx: my head management works fine, thank you. It has helped me consider how I use my free time, unsubscribing from 15+ mailing lists, stopping frequenting 20+ irc channels and using more time blogging about more interesting hobbies, such as cooking thai inspired food and filing my SO's bankstatements to a filing cabinet. Sep 20 12:17:09 I recon it's time for tea and cookies. Sep 20 12:17:14 great story Sep 20 12:17:26 taking notes Sep 20 12:17:46 you're welcome, these tips are offered free of charge Sep 20 12:20:37 Stskeeps, whos the person going the tdriver stuff?? Sep 20 12:20:51 lets add that info onto myrttis post Sep 20 12:21:02 lcuk: search for tdriver in #meego-arm logs Sep 20 12:21:05 me? Sep 20 12:21:06 in the last couple of days Sep 20 12:21:07 cant search Sep 20 12:21:09 well, adeus Sep 20 12:21:09 :P Sep 20 12:21:11 lay in bed on my side Sep 20 12:21:24 * lcuk adores long weekend Sep 20 12:21:30 * adeus runs and hides Sep 20 12:21:45 lcuk: long weekend? awwwwww Sep 20 12:21:50 adeus, could make a short post on the thread Myrtti started please Sep 20 12:23:12 should probably add a disclaimer to the post Sep 20 12:23:32 I do know that the project pulls some accessibility stuff from gnome and other projects that are upstream Sep 20 12:23:53 but is there any effort in the overall MeeGo experience? Sep 20 12:27:06 well accessibility in general is not TDrivers field Sep 20 12:27:13 but enabling those kinds of thing would be cool Sep 20 12:28:42 adeus, does this tdriver stuff work in general qt as well Sep 20 12:29:06 hi. how do i start contributing patches for bugs? how do i start? where do i get the source and how do i build it? Sep 20 12:29:16 lcuk: yes Sep 20 12:29:40 theplic, have you a patch to contribute? or are you jumping the gun and asking how to do development itself Sep 20 12:42:14 ooh Sep 20 12:42:24 http://forum.meego.com/vaispy.php this is actually useful Sep 20 12:42:27 wicked cool! Sep 20 12:44:39 Myrtti, :P I have that on Sep 20 13:23:12 Stskeeps: thx Sep 20 13:24:22 what is the bootloader used by meego for n900 ? Sep 20 13:24:38 nolo Sep 20 13:24:38 :P Sep 20 13:24:44 nolo ? Sep 20 13:24:46 se ? ;) Sep 20 13:24:54 vlj: it's a proprietary nokia bootloader Sep 20 13:24:59 ok Sep 20 13:24:59 :D Sep 20 13:25:07 I suppose it stands for NOkia LOader Sep 20 13:25:15 special edition :p Sep 20 13:25:24 but Sep 20 13:25:37 it is "erased" when installing meego or ..? Sep 20 13:25:46 I mean there is a bootloader for maemo Sep 20 13:25:55 and if you install meego you overwrite it ? Sep 20 13:25:56 it's the same boot loader Sep 20 13:26:00 ok Sep 20 13:26:11 you cannot install any other bootloader I guess ? Sep 20 13:26:40 you can, but you'll have to write one first :-) Sep 20 13:26:49 and you'll need to have it signed Sep 20 13:26:50 I mean Uboot Sep 20 13:26:53 ok Sep 20 13:27:09 and is there a "pre bootloader" ? Sep 20 13:27:16 like BIOS on x86 computer Sep 20 13:27:41 the BIOS is a boot loader Sep 20 13:27:49 ok Sep 20 13:27:59 I think there's a first stage loader before NOLO Sep 20 13:28:11 but you cannot access it ? Sep 20 13:28:15 but it's very small and doesnt do much Sep 20 13:28:32 it's only used to load and start NOLO Sep 20 13:28:37 ok Sep 20 13:28:43 (it might setup SDRAM as well, not sure about that) Sep 20 13:29:17 what happen if you mess up with nolo ? Sep 20 13:29:21 there is no way to restore it ? Sep 20 13:35:07 you can restore it Sep 20 13:35:12 the OMAP3430 can boot on USB Sep 20 13:35:18 ok Sep 20 13:35:25 by the way Sep 20 13:35:39 I've heard that tegra does not ship with neon support Sep 20 13:35:47 meego isn't ARMv7+NEON Sep 20 13:35:48 but if you really mess up with the flash I think you might destroy device-specific data that you won't be able to recover Sep 20 13:35:55 instead there is some afp*something* extensions Sep 20 13:36:52 are there tegra specific instruction, or does arm cortex A9 come with replacement for neon ? Sep 20 14:08:14 mirek__: ping Sep 20 14:26:57 vlj: VFP Sep 20 15:09:50 Good morning intel Sep 20 15:09:52 hi Sep 20 15:10:18 DawnFoster: ping Sep 20 15:10:23 Stskeeps: ping Sep 20 15:10:28 hey timeless_pidgin Sep 20 15:10:35 timeless_pidgin: pong Sep 20 15:10:49 timeless_pidgin: good proposal by you and sivang Sep 20 15:11:04 So, about bugzilla.... Sep 20 15:11:37 People are marking bugs as fixed (yay). And they include vcs identifiers Sep 20 15:11:48 there's a difference between fixed and released Sep 20 15:11:53 But they *don't* include a repository url. Sep 20 15:12:06 Which makes the identifiers next to useless :( Sep 20 15:12:32 For mozilla.org, we include a url which encodes the commit id. Sep 20 15:12:56 This enables people to figure out the repository as well as browse the changeset(s) Sep 20 15:13:49 that's a really good point Sep 20 15:13:56 Could we strongly encourage people to do the same in meego? Thanks Sep 20 15:14:38 * timeless_pidgin lunches in belfast Sep 20 15:14:55 Today's tour was "murals on buildings" Sep 20 15:15:24 timeless_pidgin: holiday? Sep 20 15:15:37 You haven't noticed? :( Sep 20 15:15:50 It's been two weeks now... Sep 20 15:15:53 I've not been paying much attention online tbh, been a bit busy the past few weeks Sep 20 15:16:12 But yeah, it's time for my summer vacation :) Sep 20 15:16:14 stskeeps: it's QA that marks items as fixed, right? Sep 20 15:16:27 stskeeps: just trying to make sure I'm poking the right people? Sep 20 15:16:43 i'd think the developers mark it fixed, QA verifies the fix Sep 20 15:16:46 but I know nothing Sep 20 15:17:04 Afaict an engineer marked the bug as fixed Sep 20 15:17:35 yeah, that's probably true Sep 20 15:18:00 But it's ok to have qa teach engineering Sep 20 15:18:01 the engineer should post the repo url and qa can double check to make sure it's there Sep 20 15:18:13 If that's an easier way to spread the knowledge Sep 20 15:18:25 qa tends to run the bugzilla process anyway, so good point Sep 20 15:18:31 But yeah, it's best for the engineer to provide the url Sep 20 15:18:57 Eventually qa should be able to use the engineer provided url for stuff... Sep 20 15:20:15 Note to self: slap __nix__ for the terrible tab coloring scheme in pidgin. Sep 20 16:00:23 hello Sep 20 16:57:09 can multitouch of meego for tablet support 20 fingers concurrently? Sep 20 17:02:47 wesbluemarine: piano duet app ? intriguing idea :) Sep 20 17:03:49 berndhs Sep 20 17:03:55 i'm asking because Sep 20 17:04:14 3m has a new multitouch monitor tha can do that Sep 20 17:04:41 i have no idead if it supports that, but I can see many applications now that you bring it up Sep 20 17:05:54 piano, many games, seance for the believers,... Sep 20 17:06:48 and what about cad? Sep 20 17:07:06 or 3d manipolation Sep 20 17:07:16 cad with fingers is hard, how to get precision on the input Sep 20 17:07:22 with stylus, sure Sep 20 17:08:09 touch and glove inputs seem great for presentation, but harder for input that needs precision Sep 20 17:08:34 unfortunately, i don't have a touch device to experiment with :) Sep 20 17:09:38 but if you can make a guesture with 3 or 4 fingers that gives precise input, you probably have something to replace a mouse Sep 20 17:09:48 eheheh Sep 20 17:10:17 but i think that i can only try if meego can Sep 20 17:10:31 i've seen video of windows 7... Sep 20 17:10:40 wesbluemarine: irc is notoriously bad for getting certain answers Sep 20 17:10:53 wesbluemarine: have you tried asking in mailinglists or the forum? Sep 20 17:11:07 there is a mailing list for the touch stuff Sep 20 17:11:31 meego-touch-dev@meego.com Sep 20 17:11:42 ah Sep 20 17:11:45 sorry Sep 20 17:11:50 btw Sep 20 17:11:51 you could ask how many fingers there Sep 20 17:12:05 wesbluemarine: nothing to be sorry about :-) Sep 20 17:12:13 i would like to know :) Sep 20 17:12:25 so when you find out, come back and tell us ? Sep 20 17:12:44 http://www.youtube.com/user/3MTouchSystems#p/c/AEAAE413F3F7F90D Sep 20 17:12:54 look at the videos :) Sep 20 17:13:19 i don't take videos of UIs as evidence that anything actually works Sep 20 17:25:12 HI! Sep 20 17:25:32 Anyone got an idea how to set up a DSL connection on MeeGo! Sep 20 17:26:10 noone's here :( Sep 20 17:26:36 sure there is Sep 20 17:26:44 we just don't necessarily know how to answer Sep 20 17:26:54 ohh Sep 20 17:27:13 I can't even see my home wireless connection Sep 20 17:27:25 what kind of a wireless connection is it? Sep 20 17:27:30 WEP Sep 20 17:27:37 802.11g Sep 20 17:28:33 I boot MeeGo and my wireless card is working 100% but yet I don't detect my network Sep 20 17:28:43 or any other as a matter of fact Sep 20 17:29:13 so how do you know it's working 100%? Sep 20 17:29:26 you've tested it how? Sep 20 17:29:36 I stil have windows xp installed Sep 20 17:29:52 and when I reboot to xp I can normaly use it Sep 20 17:30:12 that doesn't mean it'll work in MeeGo automatically ;-) Sep 20 17:30:20 true. :D Sep 20 17:30:39 Another thing, I still haven't INSTALLED MeeGo Sep 20 17:30:50 I'm just booting it from an usb Sep 20 17:30:58 could that be a reason perhaps? Sep 20 17:31:01 what kind of a wireless card do you have then? what make of a netbook do you have? Sep 20 17:31:43 M3n0: no wireless works on live-usb too Sep 20 17:31:51 I have a Lenovo s10 Sep 20 17:32:15 M3n0: download the Broadcom wifi drivers Sep 20 17:32:35 and compile yourself. You need to install the necessary packages to build kernel modules. Sep 20 17:33:13 Let's say I'm new to Linux based operating systems Sep 20 17:33:26 then you're unfortunate, this is not an easy task. Sep 20 17:33:28 firstly, where can I find these drivers and how to compile them Sep 20 17:33:46 Ok, where can I learn? Sep 20 17:33:50 you should first complain to your vendor that they are not shipping Linux drivers Sep 20 17:33:57 you should complain to Lenovo (so they can complain to Broadcom) Sep 20 17:34:14 if we don't put pressure on Broadcom, they'll never change Sep 20 17:34:27 I thought they just released some Sep 20 17:35:14 Ok, so I find the drivers but how can I get them to MeeGo? Sep 20 17:35:47 I'm looking for the info, hold on Sep 20 17:35:57 actually, sorry, I don't have the time to find the email now Sep 20 17:36:08 the drivers are in broadcom's website Sep 20 17:36:13 they must have the instructions there too Sep 20 17:36:21 ok, thaks for the help. I will look into it Sep 20 17:36:31 Thanks to you too Myratti Sep 20 17:36:41 I'm a bit closer to solve this problem Sep 20 17:36:42 thiago: Broadcom has actually opened their wifi drivers recently Sep 20 17:36:54 it's not on the kernel shipped with 1.0 Sep 20 17:37:03 nop, but this is very recent Sep 20 17:37:03 and "opened" isn't enough Sep 20 17:37:11 they have to get the drivers into the upstream kernel Sep 20 17:37:27 thiago: http://twitter.com/gregkh/status/24027482819 Sep 20 17:38:31 Stskeeps: just read jzemlins blogentry and it says it's effects are limited to the new n-chipsets? Sep 20 17:38:45 http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/158-jim-zemlin/361472-good-news-for-linux-users-from-broadcom Sep 20 17:39:10 when is meego 1.0 coming out? Sep 20 17:39:27 vnepo: six months ago Sep 20 17:39:37 for mobile phones Sep 20 17:39:38 Myrtti: hrm, ok Sep 20 17:39:46 vnepo: 1.0 was six months ago Sep 20 17:39:46 a working one for the n900 that isnt' slow Sep 20 17:39:52 oh i didn't know Sep 20 17:39:52 vnepo: 1.1 is next month Sep 20 17:40:04 oh ok thanks Sep 20 17:40:13 can't wait Sep 20 17:40:23 doesn't mean it will be usable Sep 20 17:40:25 i guess 1.1 is the stable build Sep 20 17:40:30 really? Sep 20 17:40:32 yes Sep 20 17:40:37 hmm Sep 20 17:40:48 i read the forums that sometime in nov. a meego for n900 will be available Sep 20 17:41:03 vnepo: want to see a video? Sep 20 17:41:26 * thiago hasn't been following up on what the handset can do Sep 20 17:41:34 i saw some vidoes in youtube for meego ux... but if you have a more recent one yes please. Sep 20 17:41:37 it will run and it will have a UI, but can it make calls already? Sep 20 17:41:58 the other thing is: Nokia will not support MeeGo on the N900. You can install it if you want. Sep 20 17:42:00 well im hoping the build in November will be functional for the n900..i just read this somehwere. Sep 20 17:42:05 vnepo: keep in mind meego for n900 isn't a nokia product and under development still - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0VoHtVdY8 Sep 20 17:42:13 vnepo: there's varying degrees of functional :) Sep 20 17:42:19 yea i heard nokia wont support it but we have the community of developers so we should be good Sep 20 17:42:23 lol true Sep 20 17:42:25 thiago: yes, i've called into nokia telco successfully with dtmf Sep 20 17:42:26 :P Sep 20 17:42:34 thiago: and had a normal phone call Sep 20 17:42:44 thiago: not integrated yet due to us being a tad late, but it should be coming for 1.1 Sep 20 17:42:54 Stskeeps: niec Sep 20 17:42:58 Stskeeps: can it hang up too? Sep 20 17:42:59 i like the video Sep 20 17:43:02 thiago: yes Sep 20 17:43:07 thiago: the sound comes out the speakers, but .. :) Sep 20 17:43:10 i really can't wait! Sep 20 17:43:15 Stskeeps: the last time I saw MeeGo making a call, the hanging up was taking the battery out Sep 20 17:43:33 thiago: it's one way ;) Sep 20 17:44:29 * Stskeeps hopes we'll have meego 1.2 to a point where he can eat his own dogfood. Sep 20 17:44:47 Last release date of drivers for Lenovo from Broadcom were in 2009 and I can't seem to find anything new on Broadcom's site either :@ Sep 20 17:45:04 (ie, use it as a mobile device..) Sep 20 17:45:12 Stskeeps: I've been eating my own Harmattan dogfood Sep 20 17:45:15 this is what i found: http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Nokia-N900-Gets-MeeGo1-1-on-21-27-October Sep 20 17:45:20 and today no one heard me in my call Sep 20 17:45:29 vnepo: yes, but don't trust random blogs :) Sep 20 17:45:32 all for Windows :@ Sep 20 17:45:34 awwww Sep 20 17:45:40 well im crossing my fingers Sep 20 17:45:46 i think meego looks good Sep 20 17:45:48 vnepo: we're on a fixed release schedule, meego 1.1 comes out on 21-27 but it's not a nokia product Sep 20 17:45:56 vnepo: development images are already downloadable for the daring Sep 20 17:46:10 yea i want to install a stable one Sep 20 17:46:15 ah, finally a sane user.. Sep 20 17:46:16 :P Sep 20 17:46:24 lol well yea the phone is pricey.. lol Sep 20 17:46:28 don't wanna break it Sep 20 17:46:50 break the n900? Sep 20 17:47:04 just make sure you have the link to the standard image and the flasher tool Sep 20 17:47:08 it's very hard to break it Sep 20 17:47:13 oh well i've never done it Sep 20 17:47:17 only way to do that would be to wipe the bootloader and config partitions, or use a wall Sep 20 17:47:35 MohammadAG51: I think you can recover from wiped bootloader by doing a cold flash Sep 20 17:47:37 i've never installed another os on the n900 yet .. Sep 20 17:47:48 the meego will be my first Sep 20 17:47:57 thiago, i said and, not or :P Sep 20 17:48:00 MohammadAG51: or as commonly done: draining your battery to the point nolo won't let you tart Sep 20 17:48:03 :P Sep 20 17:48:05 start Sep 20 17:48:42 Stskeeps, i mostly drain the battery fully Sep 20 17:48:43 * thiago loves when harmattan says "Not enough charge to charge the battery" Sep 20 17:49:00 MohammadAG51: actually, I don't think you do. It shuts down before that. Sep 20 17:49:08 not when dsmetool (as signaled by bme) shuts it down Sep 20 17:49:17 stskeeps: are there any new videos of meego ux? Sep 20 17:49:23 nope, I shut down bme Sep 20 17:49:34 beat it to the punch, if you will :P Sep 20 17:49:49 vnepo: it's fairly recent, but the next weekly should be around Sep 20 17:49:54 harmattan != meego though, right? Sep 20 17:50:07 yes, harmattan is something else Sep 20 17:50:16