**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 24 10:52:15 2010 Sep 24 11:30:41 lbt: sorry for recompiling again and again and again pyqt and the community obs :) Sep 24 11:48:23 vgrade, do you have a home obs setup to do the rebuilding for different devices, or do you just adjust your toolkit? Sep 24 11:51:09 Khertan_atWork: np Sep 24 11:54:05 lbt i suppose that question would also apply to you Sep 24 11:55:19 lcuk: home obs is a complete waste of time for most people. there's almost nothing you can't do using a public OBS (provided it targets your arch in some way and you can bootstrap) Sep 24 11:56:11 ok lbt Sep 24 11:56:12 it's like running a full blown exchange server at home to get a second webmail account Sep 24 11:56:27 so if (me/you/xyz) wanted to do some building for meego Sep 24 11:56:34 of system and user tools Sep 24 11:56:41 community OBS Sep 24 11:56:42 they dont need obs Sep 24 11:56:45 hmm Sep 24 11:56:57 so to compile a single application for myself to test Sep 24 11:57:02 i have to push to public obs Sep 24 11:58:17 or its all on the sdk still (similar to scratchbox) Sep 24 11:59:15 http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux Sep 24 12:00:17 mmm so to avoid sending 100k of src to the OBS you'll download and setup a many GB obs appliance and all the distros, and spend days setting it up.... Sep 24 12:01:02 lbt Sep 24 12:01:27 that 100kb may not be ready to be public Sep 24 12:01:32 look on maemo.org Sep 24 12:01:39 morning all Sep 24 12:01:42 people upload to -devel once they get to a level Sep 24 12:01:51 different purpose Sep 24 12:02:12 why different? Sep 24 12:02:18 hey where i can find info about how the system loads? Sep 24 12:02:40 -devel is well on the way to -extras Sep 24 12:02:47 OBS=sbox Sep 24 12:02:49 that run init file or so? or another script like that? Sep 24 12:03:21 lbt, what about someone like alterego Sep 24 12:03:26 who is developing a closed source pap Sep 24 12:03:26 ? Sep 24 12:03:33 app Sep 24 12:03:37 ah, SEP :) Sep 24 12:03:45 he can't use the OBS at all Sep 24 12:03:53 != maemo Sep 24 12:04:05 very interesting discussion though Sep 24 12:04:25 we haven't yet set a policy on that Sep 24 12:04:31 what about someone who wants to use cathederal model development Sep 24 12:04:34 we = you+me+everyone Sep 24 12:04:54 who has resources and developers to work, but wants to retain their current mechanisms and not "release" until the right time Sep 24 12:05:16 local builds are fine Sep 24 12:05:20 pushing to obs and building is considered a release isnt it? Sep 24 12:05:24 no Sep 24 12:05:35 it's == "make" Sep 24 12:05:37 so builds are private and not accessible by others? Sep 24 12:05:53 a bit like pastebin Sep 24 12:05:57 no-one cares Sep 24 12:06:02 thats not private then Sep 24 12:06:04 some people do Sep 24 12:06:06 nope Sep 24 12:06:08 yep Sep 24 12:06:17 local builds are private Sep 24 12:06:24 and don't need src uploading Sep 24 12:06:28 local builds are still uploaded to a server though? Sep 24 12:06:31 hmm Sep 24 12:06:36 but thats not obs is it Sep 24 12:06:39 yes Sep 24 12:06:50 "osc build " Sep 24 12:07:04 osc? Sep 24 12:07:07 i thought it was obs? Sep 24 12:07:36 http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#Local_Builds Sep 24 12:07:38 and lbt, how does that bild if the only place with compilers is up on the web Sep 24 12:08:15 build ^ Sep 24 12:09:54 lcuk: make more sense now? Sep 24 12:11:19 i hate rpm based ;( Sep 24 12:11:26 we want mer again Sep 24 12:11:27 XD Sep 24 12:11:56 ALoGeNo: never look back :) Sep 24 12:12:10 not really, how can OBS be installed locally and work without the gb of downloads you said would be needed to do a local build Sep 24 12:12:40 lcuk: you know about MS Exchange != MS Outlook Sep 24 12:12:48 i dont look back i look the compatibility the flexibility... and the whole gnu material.. Sep 24 12:12:50 ALoGeNo: http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ Sep 24 12:13:14 article about moblin's 5 second boot Sep 24 12:13:29 lcuk: so "osc" is the client Sep 24 12:13:32 wtching.. Sep 24 12:13:38 *reading Sep 24 12:13:44 watching* Sep 24 12:13:53 it talks to OBS (the server) and gets whatever is needed (chroot) Sep 24 12:13:55 but there's no video... Sep 24 12:14:08 yes lbt, ok, that makes more sense then Sep 24 12:14:11 the chroot is ~= sbox (but smaller and variable) Sep 24 12:14:18 osc = few kb Sep 24 12:14:33 and only downloads mail bodies required for the conversatio nthread you want to look at Sep 24 12:14:41 yeah Sep 24 12:15:07 my god, boot in 5 sec xD (i want it) Sep 24 12:15:26 but it still happily runs locally and would not compromise whatever local management restrictions on distribution there might be Sep 24 12:15:48 I'm interested in meego's boot and in systemd Sep 24 12:15:48 allowing people to build open source, closed source, bazaar and cathederal stuff as they like! Sep 24 12:16:19 CosmoHill, me too, im trying to boot that on my htc universal :) Sep 24 12:16:56 it would be a small abuse of the ToS to do closed src.... but I guess if it was never uploaded and built then - no biggie Sep 24 12:17:00 but i cant understand how it loads (i mean like normal kernel init stuff and so..) Sep 24 12:17:04 I've still got to finish reading the sytsemd article Sep 24 12:17:14 lbt hmm Sep 24 12:17:21 not really ? Sep 24 12:17:30 but I will read the ToS Sep 24 12:17:44 do you have a url? Sep 24 12:18:17 no.... you haven't written them yet :) Sep 24 12:18:42 I'm assuming we'll base it on openSUSE ones though Sep 24 12:18:42 moblin and meego have the same structure CosmoHill ? Sep 24 12:18:57 lbt hm Sep 24 12:19:04 moblin is one of the parents of meego so yes, similar Sep 24 12:19:21 lets read the opensuse ones and see what they say and where there might be sticking points Sep 24 12:19:33 nice, moblin is more open than meego is, no? Sep 24 12:19:48 no, i think meego is more open the moblin Sep 24 12:19:57 oh.. ty Sep 24 12:20:06 meego aims to be 100% open source Sep 24 12:20:14 I'm not to sure about moblin tho Sep 24 12:20:34 aha Sep 24 12:23:25 one more think, please, some place to learn abot nand image parts (i mean content and so, how that is asignated and created and so) where i can beggin Sep 24 12:23:34 some special link? Sep 24 12:23:52 thing* Sep 24 12:23:53 since I didn't understand the question I will say "maybe" Sep 24 12:24:05 (sorry for my low skill of english guys Sep 24 12:24:22 im spanish Sep 24 12:25:40 the question is that im familar with normal system on sd and hdd devices and dont mtd devices and flash partitions.. Sep 24 12:26:21 i dont know how it works at all mtd device assignament on meego Sep 24 12:26:40 how is aprticionet the nand and how the kernel boots etc.. Sep 24 12:26:43 okay firstly, Meego for netbook or Nokia n900? Sep 24 12:26:47 partitioned* Sep 24 12:27:03 oh, are diferent structures? Sep 24 12:27:23 netbooks are x86 with a hard drive or SSD Sep 24 12:27:23 i mean the root and so.. Sep 24 12:27:28 yea Sep 24 12:27:37 but some structure folder? Sep 24 12:27:37 n900 is ARM with NAND and MMC I think Sep 24 12:27:47 yes it is.. Sep 24 12:27:48 yes I'd imagine they are very similar Sep 24 12:28:13 however I don't have a n900 so my help in this area will be very limited Sep 24 12:28:15 well im interest in the x86 way to do in a arm plataform :) Sep 24 12:29:10 i dont have n900, but im interested in armel stuff CosmoHill Sep 24 12:29:47 maybe then its a good beggin to get meego x86 then :) Sep 24 12:30:07 I think meego is currently limited to the n900 but I think there are some private builds for the N8x0 Sep 24 12:32:35 CosmoHill, and the nexus one and the joggler and other things Sep 24 12:32:45 and of course CosmoHill theres the aava Sep 24 12:32:47 you mean vgrade's stuff Sep 24 12:32:50 and all the netbook stuff Sep 24 12:33:00 aha, CosmoHill , that isnt a problem, becose i have running mer to n900 on my htc universal armelv5 and works propelly.. Sep 24 12:33:19 les the xserver becose that has few ram Sep 24 12:33:20 I was about to say the x86 would be easier Sep 24 12:33:58 maybe i can run meego too, that is my intention.. Sep 24 12:35:58 kk thank you guys for the comments you are so kind Sep 24 12:37:56 * CosmoHill goes for lunch Sep 24 12:38:03 ALoGeNo: np Sep 24 12:56:42 lcuk: I have a new desk picture :) Sep 24 12:57:55 CosmoHill, desk? Sep 24 12:58:00 i thought you had a battlestation :P Sep 24 12:58:14 I have a battlestation XL now :) Sep 24 12:58:24 pics Sep 24 12:58:45 as soon as I get my bluetooth working :/ Sep 24 13:05:52 I will shoot ant first year I see on it Sep 24 13:07:43 lcuk: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cosmo_cluster/cluster_desk.jpg Sep 24 13:11:23 wow, 15 windows licenses Sep 24 13:11:57 CosmoHill, lol Sep 24 13:12:12 nw, for extra credit use the meego netbook install in that cluster :P Sep 24 13:12:38 I should get extra credit purely for getting it to work Sep 24 13:12:45 Personally I like my 15 clustered N900s better Sep 24 13:12:50 :P Sep 24 13:12:58 only because you could have that in your coat Sep 24 13:13:09 :) Sep 24 13:13:20 my desk is smaller tho >.< Sep 24 13:13:41 16 is better Sep 24 13:13:42 imagine when he flashes with his coat on the street Sep 24 13:13:57 it would make a better display :) Sep 24 13:14:00 there are three out of shot Sep 24 13:14:04 running them stuck together :) Sep 24 13:14:39 cb: if you're standing behind him when he shows someone his cluster you're gonna call the police Sep 24 13:15:53 two head nodes, 16 slaves and maybe 3 that are gonna be uses for spares Sep 24 13:16:26 hmm Sep 24 13:16:35 if you include that cluster in the total number of computers I have I go over 30 :/ Sep 24 13:17:24 I have 11 in my room and that's without looking under my bed Sep 24 13:17:34 Are you married? Sep 24 13:17:44 what do you think :p Sep 24 13:18:01 could be a case of separate bedrooms Sep 24 13:18:05 I've had people discribe my bedroom as a branch of currys Sep 24 13:18:13 Cosmo: Either "not", or half of these computers are your wife's. Sep 24 13:18:24 I'm single Sep 24 13:18:33 (and it's not become of the computers) Sep 24 13:21:37 We've got definitely his and hers going on in the living room Sep 24 13:21:58 my Viglen and Fonera 2 and his Mac mini and Linksys boxen Sep 24 13:22:04 i know there is at least one husband and wife in the channel Sep 24 13:22:13 Viglen :o Sep 24 13:22:15 You are not even sharing a router??? Sep 24 13:22:20 Viglen MPC-L Sep 24 13:22:28 we had them at uni Sep 24 13:22:56 they had an arugment with the tech saying that the cluter we wanted fixed wasn't made by them Sep 24 13:23:15 to which we basically went "it says VIGLEN on the side of it, would you like to see a picture?" Sep 24 13:23:37 RST38h: we are, it's the wifi boxes that are separate. Well, the problem is that the wifi boxes seem to crap out quite often, so having two on is great to make sure there's atleast some wireless connectivity in the house Sep 24 13:23:54 * Stskeeps has two wifi's too Sep 24 13:24:12 Our DI-624 worked for 5+ years now, without a hitch. Even survived the power spike. Sep 24 13:24:14 the 2G/3G signal here is really horrible Sep 24 13:24:14 I have two too, both broken currently, so dreaming of third one (:) Sep 24 13:24:40 the only problem with our netgear is the ADSL modem part Sep 24 13:24:43 Myrtti, do you use locked channels, or do you let them fight it out between themselves Sep 24 13:25:27 lcuk: locked ones Sep 24 13:26:09 Macs do not seem to like certain WiFi routers though Sep 24 13:26:12 we're had so many problems with wireless Sep 24 13:26:17 all caused by cheap cards Sep 24 13:26:28 Unless it is AirPort, there are no warranties it will work at all, it seems Sep 24 13:26:36 RST38h: I've seen a router that went "not mac compatable" :/ Sep 24 13:27:04 well we've got macs, windows, linux, nexus ones and they all seem to be having difficulties Sep 24 13:27:07 I mean it's either 802.11g compiant or it's not Sep 24 13:27:10 Cosmo: Weird crap, really. One would expect Macs to use exactly the same hardware and standard WiFi drivers from BSD Sep 24 13:27:29 should really do a total IT infrastructure overhaul Sep 24 13:27:34 my mac just will not connect to my friends Dlink router Sep 24 13:28:00 was just looking at lackracks Sep 24 13:28:06 it also can never remember the password for mum's friends house Sep 24 13:28:43 we replaced mum's wifi card with a linksys router working as a wireless bridge Sep 24 13:30:41 oddly enough her ping / latency has decreased Sep 24 13:32:18 Myrtti: wow only £5 Sep 24 13:34:38 yup, it's ridiculously cheap Sep 24 13:35:25 * CosmoHill looks at the mess that is his home made cupbouard thingy Sep 24 13:35:44 should I be worried that my workbench is held together purely by weight Sep 24 13:35:52 too bad we don't actually have any rackservers :-D Sep 24 13:36:09 details details Sep 24 13:36:29 * w00t_ headdesks at the latest mail about bugtrackers and goes to get coffee Sep 24 13:39:19 .o/ Sep 24 13:43:50 hi! is the patch that makes finding usbstorage devices in less than 5s available somewhere? TIA Sep 24 13:50:18 lbt: maybe you can help me with the meego qt build :) Sep 24 13:50:38 Khertan_atWork: not at the moment... l8r Sep 24 13:50:45 it s seems that neither QT_SHARED nor QT_DLL is defined in the Qt build of the community obs Sep 24 13:50:51 lbt: there is no urgency :) Sep 24 13:50:55 can answer later ;) Sep 24 13:51:04 (or no answer at all) Sep 24 14:02:45 someone have access to the official meego obs where qt are built i m looking for the symbol which are define for the meego build Sep 24 14:02:55 as QT_Shared or QT_DLL isn't define Sep 24 15:18:22 lcuk, did you get the OBS stuff straight? Sep 24 15:19:04 lcuk, I have an account on meamo OBS and do builds on that Sep 24 15:19:11 vgrade_, have a cleared picture of it thanks Sep 24 15:19:47 lcuk, I have used the osc build command sucessfully for x86 but still have an outstanding issue building for arm Sep 24 15:20:33 i am interested in the OSC local client configuration though, since whilst the OS will have open components and building on the cloud may be quicker, having a streamlined localised variation with similar results is desirable Sep 24 15:20:48 ahh vgrade_ which issue is this then Sep 24 15:25:23 lcuk, I'm on a client site atm with no acess to my dev machine, I will ping you later with the details Sep 24 15:26:26 lcuk, something to do with can't find sh when processing arm-bash-static or some such message while buiding the build environment Sep 24 15:26:47 vgrade_, no prob, I haven't set anything up myself yet, I am just interested since you obviously have some of the steps in place for much wider cross building :) Sep 24 15:26:54 if I had wifi and ssh on my phone I wouldn't need to use a laptop at uni :o Sep 24 15:26:57 have you filed bug about it or discussed? Sep 24 15:27:04 lcuk, same spec file works OK on the OBS Sep 24 15:28:00 thats good Sep 24 15:28:36 lcuk, I noticed that harbaum posted the same error on -arm but when I asked him, he had not resolved it Sep 24 15:29:39 ahh reasonable enough, well when you get in a position to run over it and log stuff, it might be an idea to file a bug and get harbaum to as well Sep 24 15:29:55 lcuk, I guess its probably host distro related or I'm missing some cross tools Sep 24 15:31:10 heh Sep 24 15:31:38 its shocking that OBS - a tool designed for cross platform/multi distro building may have issues depending on platform its run on ;) Sep 24 15:33:00 Hi \o/ Sep 24 15:33:26 hello Sep 24 15:34:03 can I use unetbootin to put meego on the pen drive? Sep 24 15:34:17 use dd Sep 24 15:34:35 meego iso image are hybrid Sep 24 15:34:41 just dump them to an usb key Sep 24 15:34:53 fcrozat: I'm on windows Sep 24 15:35:06 there is dd.exe :) Sep 24 15:35:27 you can either look for "dd for windows" or if you'd like to burn it to DVD change the image extention to .iso and burn that Sep 24 15:35:43 lcuk, found it, http://pastie.org/1097536 Sep 24 15:35:55 dvd? meego is for netbooks Sep 24 15:37:05 vgrade with tail: I see those errors on LFS, they're normally caused by them being the wrong binary (64 on a 32 system) or by being linked to a file that isn't there Sep 24 15:37:19 of course they could just be missing Sep 24 15:40:22 vgrade_, and based on that, I think harbaum potentially got sorted with this: Sep 24 15:40:24 http://trac.tspre.org/merbot/freenode/%23meego-arm/log.08-17-2010.txt Sep 24 15:40:36 17:49 Sep 24 15:40:50 ahh balls Sep 24 15:43:15 but vgrade_ at the bottom of this random pastebin there is the code which highlights the message indicating the actual test done Sep 24 15:43:16 http://pastie.org/pastes/951752 Sep 24 15:46:44 lcuk, yes that was my reaction when I read that log a week ago, Sep 24 15:47:10 lcuk, when I did get the rpms suggested I could not decode them Sep 24 16:00:45 CosmoHill, they are missing on my setup at least. I will try and track them down for fc11 when I get chance Sep 24 16:20:56 oh noes Sep 24 16:35:18 I hate ruby Sep 24 16:40:36 lbt, that's too bad, it only ever has good thing to say about you. Sep 24 16:41:49 after coding fennec c++ stuff, I can only dream of ruby Sep 24 16:42:04 ruby... Sep 24 16:42:24 rubygems to be specific Sep 24 16:43:14 hey adeus Sep 24 16:43:44 hey lbt Sep 24 16:57:33 what's the problem with gems? Sep 24 16:58:53 * thiago thinks gems are expensive Sep 24 17:12:59 Why does the installation of Meego hang up on 'Installation of bootloader' ? Sep 24 17:14:15 I had that problem when I tried to install it on unsupported hw Sep 24 17:27:18 help? Sep 24 17:28:07 what CPU does your system have? Sep 24 17:33:12 sofar: it is a NC10 Sep 24 17:33:44 sofar: 1.6 GHz Intel Atom N270 Sep 24 17:33:48 ok, that should work Sep 24 17:34:00 I've ran meego on those actually Sep 24 17:34:04 Yes, I used moblin months ago Sep 24 17:42:11 CosmoHill, is linux from scratch actually like gentoo Sep 24 17:42:24 and built from source, or is it the concept of new linux users Sep 24 17:42:31 lcuk: it's more from scratch than gentoo ;) Sep 24 17:42:33 it's build from source Sep 24 17:42:46 gentoo at least gives you a package manager :) Sep 24 17:42:54 CosmoHill, can you apply the same thinking to meego from scratch? Sep 24 17:43:02 i think gentoo builds the stuff for you where as with LFS you must compile the stuff yourself Sep 24 17:43:35 correct Sep 24 17:43:44 lcuk I think if I build the LFS temp tool chain with the same versions as meego I might be able to use it as the base for compiling meego Sep 24 17:43:49 and if so, how would one start - would I be best reading and doing LFS first? Sep 24 17:43:55 jausmus: have you built LFS before? Sep 24 17:44:11 CosmoHill: I've read about LFS, and been a Gentoo user for far too long ;) Sep 24 17:44:18 ah okay Sep 24 17:44:28 since ~1.4 days Sep 24 17:44:37 lol Sep 24 17:44:38 hah Sep 24 17:44:52 1.4 days? how the hell did you manage to compile it that quick! Sep 24 17:44:59 heh - that came out wrong Sep 24 17:45:06 since the days of version 1.4 ;) Sep 24 17:45:16 hi all, I am trying to install MADDE 0.7.26 on a x86_64 debian box. trying to create from image "meego-handset-ia32-1.0.80.9.20100706.1-sdk-pre0901" mad-admin fails saying I have no meego-handset-toolchain-linux-0.1_x86. where can I find it? mad-admin fetch does not list it among aliases Sep 24 17:45:26 speaking of old stuff Sep 24 17:45:31 I am now 13001 days old Sep 24 17:45:56 gentoo has changed a bit since 1.4 Sep 24 17:46:27 I've done LFS in about 8 hours I think Sep 24 17:46:30 tomma: yeah, just a little... I still (semi-)fondly recall building from stage1 Sep 24 17:46:31 probably less Sep 24 17:46:52 CosmoHill, you have an n900? Sep 24 17:46:59 nope Sep 24 17:47:12 shame Sep 24 17:47:19 I have a nokia :) Sep 24 17:47:22 Why does the installation of Meego hang up on 'Installation of bootloader' ? I checked md5sum of img and I tryed with 2 pen drives Sep 24 17:47:59 CosmoHill, what have you got? Sep 24 17:48:03 6220c Sep 24 17:48:36 under: just for kicks, moving the mouse around when it appears to hang Sep 24 17:49:30 :\ Sep 24 17:49:34 CosmoHill, get an n900 :P Sep 24 17:49:48 but don't they cost money? Sep 24 17:51:46 Less than they used to! Sep 24 17:52:59 CosmoHill, indeed they do Sep 24 17:53:16 would now be a good time to meantion I'm still on pay as you go? Sep 24 17:53:27 I am Sep 24 17:53:47 * lcuk personally thinks all corporate execs should be as well Sep 24 17:53:57 so when they go abroad they see problems real people have! Sep 24 17:56:50 sofar: I set / as a ext3 fs. Can it be that? Sep 24 17:59:33 sure Sep 24 17:59:54 recommended is a small ext3 /boot and the rest btrfs, swap if you care Sep 24 18:43:17 lcuk: I'm gonna do a LFS 6.7 build soon Sep 24 18:46:13 LFS ? Linux From Scratch ? Sep 24 18:47:42 hey friends, i need some files from a real n900 from /usr/bin can any of you tarball for me please? Sep 24 18:48:26 or /usr/bin in tarball will be okey can you please? Sep 24 18:49:14 anyone with n900 can help me? Sep 24 18:50:31 ALoGeNo: that sounds potentially copyright infringing Sep 24 18:50:57 i dont wanna sale nothing Stskeeps :( Sep 24 18:51:12 only experiment with OS Sep 24 18:51:14 nobody except nokia can give that to you Sep 24 18:51:32 ALoGeNo: then buy a n900 :) Sep 24 18:51:42 damn, guys that are only a files for /usr/bin :( Sep 24 18:52:13 im poor, man, im trying to port that so to my crappy htc universal that is nothing bad :( Sep 24 18:52:30 i dont wanna be ilegal :/ Sep 24 18:52:38 is only debian to test :D Sep 24 18:52:39 you can download meego n900 images Sep 24 18:52:43 those are free to download Sep 24 18:52:50 and have /usr/bin :) Sep 24 18:52:56 yeah i have all that she.. Sep 24 18:53:07 isnt the same libraries.. Sep 24 18:53:17 or yes? Sep 24 18:53:25 ALoGeNo: htc universal is at least ARMv6 or less, N900 is ARMv7 Sep 24 18:53:31 you can't use v7 on v6 Sep 24 18:53:43 both are armel Sep 24 18:53:46 so you're out of luck Sep 24 18:53:47 no Sep 24 18:53:47 that runs.. Sep 24 18:53:57 maemo5 is armv7, debian is armv4t Sep 24 18:54:00 im runing Sep 24 18:54:15 so trust me on this one, not gonna work :) Sep 24 18:54:33 im was get running mer and neopwn on my htc universal Sep 24 18:54:56 if we had a working armv5 build, it'd be better to port that Sep 24 18:54:57 :P Sep 24 18:54:58 i need maemo to get the whole neopwn ^^ Sep 24 18:55:06 heh Sep 24 18:55:12 sorry, out of luck :) Sep 24 18:55:14 camon guys.. :D Sep 24 18:55:25 a tar for ALo.. :D Sep 24 18:55:32 you'll be met with 'illegal instruction' Sep 24 18:55:49 but is for test not comertial :/ Sep 24 18:55:58 whining not appreciated Sep 24 18:56:04 i dont go relase nothing Sep 24 18:56:06 the signal handlers of linux cares not if something is test or commercial Sep 24 18:56:06 :P Sep 24 18:56:29 hehe you are with me come on :) Sep 24 18:56:30 Stskeeps: Isn't te Unversal even armv5? Sep 24 18:56:40 armel ! Sep 24 18:56:45 ^^ Sep 24 18:56:50 powa Sep 24 18:57:01 ALoGeNo: i pretty much did Mer mostly on my own (some people helped a lot), and trust me, it won't work. Sep 24 18:57:14 so i'd give up already :) Sep 24 18:57:44 i know javer tells me :) Sep 24 18:57:49 Javier* Sep 24 18:59:02 well, i was used the nupgrade.sh script to dum the whole maemo firmware of the MADDE emu.. Sep 24 18:59:10 and now.. im here.. without n900... Sep 24 18:59:17 bunk: armv5, yeah Sep 24 18:59:20 waiting for legal stuff :/ Sep 24 18:59:33 ALoGeNo: sorry, not the place for asking :) Sep 24 18:59:44 maybe query? Sep 24 18:59:45 XDD Sep 24 18:59:47 and i'm trying to avoid you wasting a lot of time by saying you can't do it Sep 24 18:59:47 lol Sep 24 19:00:14 sofar: btrfs + the reflink cp'ing is a lifesaver on n900, btw Sep 24 19:00:23 * CosmoHill is hours away from a 300 day uptime Sep 24 19:00:23 im without fucking work, no job now, not money and only time to waste.. on my uni and my dreams.. Sep 24 19:00:24 sofar: system is responsive much easier on first boot Sep 24 19:00:33 if dont work later isnt a problem Sep 24 19:00:35 yeah :) Sep 24 19:00:39 er, earlier Sep 24 19:00:57 y have debian working full here on my htc universal fabricated on 2005 Sep 24 19:01:00 ALoGeNo: yes, but you can't fight the chip restrictions.. there's instructions that simply won't run on your device Sep 24 19:01:02 and with neopwn Sep 24 19:01:14 nah... Sep 24 19:01:23 i need hildon.. Sep 24 19:01:28 and i want it. Sep 24 19:01:29 famous last words Sep 24 19:01:29 XD Sep 24 19:01:34 there's hildon in mer Sep 24 19:01:34 :P Sep 24 19:01:39 yeah.. Sep 24 19:01:48 but is die.. my god NOHH! Sep 24 19:01:52 WHY?? Sep 24 19:01:58 either way Sep 24 19:02:03 let's take this discussion to #mer Sep 24 19:02:06 this has nothing to deal with meego :) Sep 24 19:02:15 haha, you are nice people ;) Sep 24 19:02:27 give me a tar Sep 24 19:02:33 lol Sep 24 19:02:52 * sofar hands ALoGeNo a tarbal from glibc Sep 24 19:03:12 okey guys thank you for your support :) i know that is meego channel :) Sep 24 19:03:21 you are so kind :) Sep 24 19:03:32 ARRRR..! Sep 24 19:03:45 * ALoGeNo get the tarball on air ! Sep 24 19:03:59 gets* Sep 24 19:04:19 ALoGeNo: the rules of freenode states no warez, so please leave it out of here - asking for copies of a closed source OS is well, warez Sep 24 19:04:43 nono Stskeeps , dont worry man :) Sep 24 19:05:09 i come here to learn, dont to figth.. :) Sep 24 19:05:22 good - then read up on meego.com :) Sep 24 19:05:26 and see what this system is about Sep 24 19:05:43 if you guys say that is ilegal, thats all.. :) Sep 24 19:06:08 dont worry, just trying luck :) Sep 24 19:06:13 :nod: Sep 24 19:06:17 * Stskeeps gets back to trying out fennec Sep 24 19:43:24 warez?! :) Sep 24 19:43:27 in here Sep 24 19:43:32 Stskeeps: /me sighs Sep 24 21:12:28 hi, what would be the fastest way to install Qt4 on meego netbook 1.0? thanks Sep 24 21:12:53 are there binary packages or am I forced to go through compiling sources? Sep 24 21:28:25 Khertan_Home, ping Sep 24 21:29:06 bulletxt: there are binary packages Sep 24 21:29:27 lpotter: yes, I was sure of that as well, but can't find them on repo.meego.com Sep 24 21:36:58 lpotter: the only thing qt in the repos is the connman wrappers and someother package as it seems. Sep 24 21:37:05 lpotter: can you advice otherwise? Sep 24 21:37:32 lpotter: consider this for example, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.3.20100921.1/handset/repos/armv7l/packages/armv7l/ , but maybe it is available from other sources as an RPM Package Sep 24 21:40:20 yay, my attendance to meegoconf has been accepted :-) Sep 24 21:41:44 thiago_home: you mean, internal? there's no news for community participants yet right? Sep 24 21:42:21 yes Sep 24 21:42:37 as in I'm a Nokia person and we're limiting the number of Nokia people in the conf Sep 24 21:43:19 thiago_home: i see., congrets Sep 24 21:43:24 * sivang brb Sep 24 21:49:25 That doesn't make a lot of sense. Sep 24 21:51:39 what doesn't? Sep 24 21:55:50 Reducing the number of Nokians. Sep 24 21:56:29 Hard to foster open practices and collaborative atmosphere when you lock everybody away in the cathedral. :P Sep 24 22:00:53 GAN900: well, we don't want to overwhelm either Sep 24 22:01:02 we want to make sure that other people can join Sep 24 22:01:07 the venue can fit 600 people Sep 24 22:01:13 we don't want 300 Intel people and 300 Nokians Sep 24 22:02:24 True enough, but I see good names having to fight far too hard to get in. Sep 24 22:02:43 I didn't have to fight. I registered today :-) Sep 24 22:02:48 I hadn't realised I had to register Sep 24 22:03:06 then I spent 10 minutes on the website trying to figure out where I had to register Sep 24 22:04:52 I was kinda embarrassed when I realised it was the big central part of the homepage saying "Sign up now" Sep 24 23:43:54 hello Sep 25 00:52:38 looking for help w/ ivi on a BeagleBoard. it boots but i get a ivihome has crashed and will restart. how can i debug this? Sep 25 01:07:25 hello Sep 25 01:07:39 any new news on meego n900? Sep 25 01:08:58 vnepo, good things happening. I think they're close to redistributable SGX drivers too Sep 25 01:12:13 sgx drivers? Sep 25 01:12:47 the drivers for the 3D chipset Sep 25 01:15:41 oh so that would make meego faster on the n900 Sep 25 01:17:08 it already has sgx drivers in the nokia builds Sep 25 01:19:14 i cant wait to install meego once a more stable build is available **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 25 02:59:57 2010