**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 28 02:59:57 2010 Sep 28 04:15:06 How i put meego on n900? Sep 28 04:15:29 i used this link : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND Sep 28 04:15:48 See if this helps: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757 Sep 28 04:17:15 but i dont have a sd card here Sep 28 04:17:25 i need use only usb Sep 28 04:17:30 you need an sd card Sep 28 04:17:31 is possible? Sep 28 04:17:32 sd card is required for booting meego at this time Sep 28 04:18:39 The phone works in meego on n900? Sep 28 04:19:08 in a very basic way Sep 28 04:19:13 it's not usable day-to-day Sep 28 04:19:26 can i do a phone call ? Sep 28 04:19:33 I believe so Sep 28 04:20:15 ok ok Sep 28 04:20:25 i will search a sd card in my car Sep 28 04:20:29 thankss Sep 28 05:58:12 Hello all ! Sep 28 07:06:45 HI folks .. Sep 28 07:11:27 hello peb_ Sep 28 08:28:42 Morning, all Sep 28 08:29:53 morning Sep 28 08:33:14 hey Jaffa Sep 28 08:38:31 I wish my brain would finally start for today Sep 28 08:41:24 Myrtti: have a kickoff then :) Sep 28 08:43:44 djszapi: coffee seems to do absolutely nothing Sep 28 08:44:37 :P Sep 28 09:06:00 Myrtti: go running couple of times around the office, that will do the trick! Sep 28 09:12:07 Tumi_: ... what office? Sep 28 09:14:06 Myrtti: does not really matter. Pick the closest one =) Sep 28 09:15:53 awww, there's no office in 10miles radius... Sep 28 09:18:26 then I guess one round is enough ;) Sep 28 09:19:41 Myrtti ... what about a round around the house? Sep 28 09:21:51 I'm not going out there to tresspass on other peoples gardens... Sep 28 09:22:35 Myrtti, I see it's getting difficult. Let's go back to coffee: How about an increased dose of that drug? Sep 28 09:22:44 GOOD IDEA! Sep 28 09:23:02 it's morning still, so I'm allowed :-P Sep 28 09:23:21 Myrtti, French Press or an automatic coffee maker? Sep 28 09:24:27 Bialetti Moka Express with 100% Columbian espresso roast/grind (brought from Columbia by BF) Sep 28 09:25:00 automatic drip machines are horrid Sep 28 09:27:36 Just dared to asked ... and to estimated if and how successfull the treatment can be. Sep 28 09:27:51 mokka express <3 Sep 28 09:38:05 ok, now I've snorted my coffee too. Sep 28 09:38:07 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOqx7HCwZI8 Sep 28 09:46:41 Myrtti, any effect yet? Sep 28 09:47:16 not considerably - but I'm a bit strange - not so long ago I fell asleep happily an hour after having a whole moka pot... Sep 28 09:47:38 oh well, I guess I'll just have to plough through the day... again Sep 28 11:16:33 nice, Helsinki MeeGo Network is now in meetup.com: http://www.meetup.com/Helsinki-MeeGo-Network/ Sep 28 11:18:07 gooood ! Sep 28 11:18:23 will the next meeting be held at Symbio ? Sep 28 11:18:38 (itamerenkatu) Sep 28 11:18:41 that was the initial idea... I'll try to get it confirmed on Friday Sep 28 11:19:27 ok, it is inplace for me :P Sep 28 11:24:07 on our series of "Has Myrtti missed a memo or something": Why isn't the Birmingham MeeGo Experts meetup a Local MeeGo Network? Sep 28 11:24:23 bergie: :thumbsup: Sep 28 11:24:33 Myrtti: they didn't get the memo, maybe Sep 28 11:24:38 myrtti forgot to knit me something... Sep 28 11:25:01 sivu: the mittens are still halfway done in my trunk and your address on my fridge door Sep 28 11:25:29 aww Sep 28 11:25:41 btw, moved to a new address since march 2010 Sep 28 11:25:55 hehe Sep 28 11:25:58 good to know Sep 28 11:26:08 if I ever get the mittens done, I'll ask for an update :-D Sep 28 11:26:39 ok. i'll expect somewhere around 2012.. :) Sep 28 11:32:53 sivu :) Sep 28 11:39:42 sigh. Why oh why do some guys attach word documents to bug reports in bugs.meego.com that just contain two lines of text that are the key entities to query for and of course are not part of the bug report text so they cannot be searched for (to avoid dups)? Sep 28 11:40:02 andre__: smack them Sep 28 11:40:29 w00t_, I do, I do... I just have the very bad idea that this might be something that their managers told them :-/ Sep 28 11:40:40 bug example? Sep 28 11:41:37 Stskeeps: there are billions of. 7349, 7355, 7353, 7350, 7351, .... Sep 28 11:41:50 I try to explain why it's bad. Hopefully they understand. Sep 28 11:44:39 /tmp/BUG_13641_Trans2.docx could not be saved, because you cannot change the contents of that folder. Sep 28 11:44:52 I can't even open the .docx without saving it to specific folder ;) Sep 28 11:44:53 Sage_, awesome, right? Same here, with .doc it works. Sep 28 11:45:05 yes with .doc it work Sep 28 11:46:28 Well, my first question is why using .docx in the first place to _MeeGo_ bugzilla. Can meego even open .docx? :) Sep 28 11:46:35 Sage: I wonder if it's a shared-mime-info issue on this machine, or a general issue. Also Fedora13? Sep 28 11:46:42 f13 yes Sep 28 11:46:55 so, bug report, you or me? ;-) Sep 28 11:47:08 I'll give this one to you ;) Sep 28 11:47:13 darrn! :-P Sep 28 11:47:20 seems to me andre__ volunteered ;) Sep 28 11:55:56 qa-tools weekly at #meego-meeting in 5 minutes, welcome Sep 28 11:58:28 Could anyone tell me if i can use my meego repos in Moblin 2.1 Sep 28 11:58:32 ? Sep 28 11:58:38 probably not possible Sep 28 11:58:58 It looks like Moblin repos are being stopped Sep 28 11:59:09 Can't yum install anything Sep 28 12:29:17 finally got an account to MeeGo OBS. now, is there a way to set my real name and change the password there? Sep 28 12:29:40 osc meta user -e Sep 28 12:29:46 yay Sep 28 12:29:53 mairas: congrats Sep 28 12:30:04 CosmoHill, that was an uphill battle ;-) Sep 28 12:30:26 I ride up some place called "hill view road" so I'm used to it :p Sep 28 12:30:38 haha Sep 28 12:31:07 the top of the road is a little higher than the university Sep 28 12:31:19 the bottom of it is a little lower than it Sep 28 12:31:21 Does it have a view of the hill ?> Sep 28 12:31:41 you'd think so but no Sep 28 12:32:45 There's a road near me called Fernview court. It's not a court, there's no ferns to view Sep 28 12:47:31 CosmoHill, slaine - theres a place in America called Mianus but .. Sep 28 12:49:24 There's a place in american called Hell Sep 28 12:50:17 most of the Nokians around here work in Hel! Sep 28 12:50:34 * CosmoHill watches Hercules in HD Sep 28 12:50:45 some of the Nokians here live in Nokia! Sep 28 12:50:51 there is a town in Norway called Hell Sep 28 12:50:59 I have been there Sep 28 12:51:03 lcuk, That particular place name is a common favorite around the office. Sep 28 12:51:08 is near trondheim? Sep 28 12:51:11 it never gets old Sep 28 12:52:15 stephg: I keep forgetting, but some radio amateurs I know operated from that town. The operating mode was Hell(schreiber) Sep 28 12:52:54 heh Sep 28 13:24:15 hello Sep 28 13:24:48 can anybody tell me if he trie to build chromium for ARM in MEeGo 1.0 or later? Sep 28 13:31:17 anybody? Sep 28 13:35:17 why do you ask it ? Do you have any issue ? Sep 28 13:36:16 andrewzro: i think we tried but it failed to compile Sep 28 13:37:47 yes, it's failing for me to Sep 28 13:38:33 I tried to add some options to gyp_chromium as I found on google: Sep 28 13:38:36 %ifarch %{arm} Sep 28 13:38:38 <------><------> -D target_arch=arm \ Sep 28 13:38:40 <------><------> -D armv7=1 \ Sep 28 13:38:42 <------><------> -D disable_nacl=1 \ Sep 28 13:38:44 <------><------> -D linux_use_tcmalloc=0 \ Sep 28 13:38:46 %endif Sep 28 13:38:52 but it still tried to build nacl and fail Sep 28 13:38:59 not sure, got a build log? Sep 28 13:39:24 yes, how do I upload it Sep 28 13:39:27 ? Sep 28 13:39:59 pastie.org Sep 28 13:40:04 copy it in there and paste the url here Sep 28 13:43:23 here: http://pastie.org/1186485 Sep 28 13:45:09 well, just wanted to congratulate you on having an actual working OBS meego ARM setup :) Sep 28 13:45:29 :) thanks Sep 28 13:45:42 we are a bunch of ARM people sitting in #meego-arm too Sep 28 13:45:43 :D Sep 28 14:00:22 Stskeeps: have you seen Qt on arm? Sep 28 14:00:34 thiago: hmm? Sep 28 14:01:26 (unsure what you mean, obviously i've seen qt on arm as i work on n900 adaptation of meego..) Sep 28 14:01:54 Stskeeps: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4278 Sep 28 14:02:05 ah Sep 28 14:02:16 i should have a meego on arm instead.. Sep 28 14:02:34 Fennec on arm Sep 28 14:02:37 * stephg runs away Sep 28 14:02:39 die Sep 28 14:02:43 ha Sep 28 15:43:35 lol @ qt on arm! =) Sep 28 15:44:04 please qualify that statement ;) Sep 28 15:44:35 jani: gtk on arm is even more lol :) Sep 28 15:45:57 slonopotamus: i just find it more *facepalm*, but that's just my opinion on gtk in general - entirely personal ;) Sep 28 15:46:24 :D Sep 28 15:48:00 meh, my palm m505 with _33mhz_ cpu opens calculator faster than n900 overclocked to 1 ghz Sep 28 15:49:27 leinir: [17:01] Stskeeps: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4278 Sep 28 15:49:49 slonopotamus, Palm's architecture is a lot different. Sep 28 15:49:51 jani: Very lol, nicely ;) Sep 28 15:49:51 ^ qt on arm! =) Sep 28 15:50:42 i have one of those too, just not used it yet ;) Sep 28 15:51:21 GeneralAntilles: so what? it's 10 years old device. Sep 28 16:09:50 slonopotamus, so apples and oranges. Sep 28 16:10:04 The Palm isn't doing anything most of the time Sep 28 16:10:16 and programs are effectively stored in RAM. Sep 28 16:10:29 Both of which make for responsive opening. Sep 28 16:10:33 n900 isn't doing anything when i just start up damn calculator. Sep 28 16:10:50 Yes it is. Sep 28 16:11:24 It's maintaining a cellular connection, listening to accelerometer input, showing various status info in the menu bar, etc, etc. Sep 28 16:11:44 additionally, it (calculator) weirdly blinks on startup Sep 28 16:11:48 I agree that Nokia sucks at optimizing, but the issue isn't that simple. Sep 28 16:11:57 That's the cached preview image Sep 28 16:12:08 to make you feel like the app is loading faster Sep 28 16:12:13 ... Sep 28 16:12:23 Except Nokia did it wrong Sep 28 16:12:34 blinking doesn't make apps launching faster Sep 28 16:12:49 They should've done like Apple and shown blank UI elements. Sep 28 16:13:00 and it spends precious time loading and showing that preview image Sep 28 16:13:04 It makes it FEEL faster, which, when it works, is effectively the same thing. Sep 28 16:13:17 It's a function of the compositor. Sep 28 16:13:27 It's basically free. Sep 28 16:13:59 launching calculator is basically free, however n900 manages to do it slowly and with a blink. Sep 28 16:15:10 w/e, it's total offtopic :) Sep 28 16:15:49 yeah, they problems in the modern world. Mass starvation, threat of nuclear war, and slow-launching calculators Sep 28 16:16:01 sounds like this info is useful Sep 28 16:16:25 I vote for cheesecake Sep 28 16:16:29 +1 Sep 28 16:16:34 +1 Sep 28 16:16:43 yes cheesecake can be a problem too Sep 28 16:17:08 slonopotamus, hey, you brought it up. Sep 28 16:17:17 GAN900: yep :P Sep 28 17:20:13 Hi all Sep 28 17:20:27 hi Sep 28 17:20:48 I tried booting meego on n900 today. This is with the image that includes Nokia's closed components. Sep 28 17:20:56 I am having an issue with it, can someone help please Sep 28 17:21:26 I was able to see the menu initially and then suddenly the screen went blank. No idea how to get the menu screen back Sep 28 17:22:11 vkvraju_, what's the exact image name? is this reproducible after removing the battery and rebooting? Sep 28 17:22:40 andre__: the image name is meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 Sep 28 17:23:08 didn't try removing the battery yet. Just booted into it couple of minutes back. Sep 28 17:23:38 vgrade: around? Sep 28 17:23:49 and the kernel is this : meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.1-n900 Sep 28 17:23:59 vkvraju, and I was about to ask how's it working (meego@N900) Sep 28 17:24:21 I think someone should start a n900 FAQ Sep 28 17:24:28 vgrade: any chance an emgd repository will show up again, now that there is an official release? Sep 28 17:24:30 loaded kernel with this command : flasher-3.5 -l -b -k Sep 28 17:24:52 CosmoHill: That would be really helpful Sep 28 17:25:48 I read in meego forums today that the latest image was able to make and recieve calls and SMS's Sep 28 17:26:18 so, thought of trying it. The process to install was simple enough but the experience after booting into it was not :( Sep 28 17:26:45 flasher -l -k -b Sep 28 17:27:31 -b needs to be the last flag? Sep 28 17:27:55 right Sep 28 17:27:58 it carries kernel command line Sep 28 17:28:19 I followed instructions form the wiki here : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Sep 28 17:28:20 vkvraju_: by the way, do you own the DSL router of your current IP address (122.164.138.130)? Sep 28 17:28:29 almost the last last command in that page Sep 28 17:29:18 no idea andre Sep 28 17:29:22 vkvraju_: "admin" as user and "password" as password are a bit insecure if you don't want people like me to change your router settings. Sep 28 17:29:37 oh no, please don't do that ! Sep 28 17:29:46 andre__: haxx0r Sep 28 17:29:52 I will ask my friend to change it. I am using his connection Sep 28 17:30:12 Stskeeps, sorry, cannot resist to try default settings sometimes. Sep 28 17:30:46 why does the router have remote access enabled anyway Sep 28 17:32:40 Hi, can someone help me with requirements to install meego? I have an amd x2 4000 , 4gb ram running win7 x64. the system requirements at http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook mentions MeeGo will not work on non-SSSE3 CPUs. can I install meego sdk inside a vmware VM running ubuntu 10.x and learn meego for netbooks? Sep 28 17:33:34 py_newbie: meego won't work, you have an AMD Sep 28 17:34:01 currently my development happens for win projects so I can't wipe that out and install linux as primary/host os Sep 28 17:34:11 CosmoHill: not even in a VM? Sep 28 17:34:52 buying an intel syste, with SSSE3 just to learn meego is heavy requriement! Sep 28 17:34:57 I don't think it will work in a VM either since the host doesn't have SSSE3 Sep 28 17:35:05 s/syste/system Sep 28 17:35:10 you're welcome to try it Sep 28 17:35:20 but I don't know how much will work without SSE3 Sep 28 17:35:25 SSSE3* Sep 28 17:35:48 you're next issue will be the graphics card Sep 28 17:38:52 a local client is offering a tiny meego project, so buying a new system for that is a huge step , I will not even recover the cost of the system is project does not take off Sep 28 17:39:38 so I would appreciate all I help I can get to see if meego can run in a vmware vm with linux Sep 28 17:39:42 meego is still in heavy development Sep 28 17:40:02 websites says sdk 1.0 has been released? Sep 28 17:40:14 at some point there may be a non-SSSE3 port or one that would work on AMD Sep 28 17:40:39 it probably has, I don't know if you can run it on an AMD since I don't own one to test on Sep 28 17:41:22 also when you say the cost of the system are you thinking £800 workstation or £200 netbook? Sep 28 17:41:55 more like $300 without monitor Sep 28 17:42:06 I mean desktop/workstation Sep 28 17:42:24 so I can use it for another stuff if this meego project does not workout Sep 28 17:42:54 I think this meego project has to work out, it is the replacement for moblin and maemo Sep 28 17:43:08 sorry , my bad Sep 28 17:43:14 I did not mean meego project Sep 28 17:43:26 ah, this client's meego based project? Sep 28 17:43:26 I meant the tiny meego project I am getting Sep 28 17:44:12 Meego used Qt for it's interface so if your project is Qt it should be able to work on any platyfor Sep 28 17:44:15 platform Sep 28 17:44:40 I.E. You don't need meego to make a Meego app if you stick to Qt Sep 28 17:44:43 my client, who is local small software firm is getting an order to test a meego project, which they want to pass to me Sep 28 17:44:55 they nor I have any idea about meego Sep 28 17:45:03 hmm Sep 28 17:45:13 so my first assignment is to build a small meego project Sep 28 17:45:21 then learn how to test meego apps Sep 28 17:45:43 so, I removed the battery and rebooted Sep 28 17:45:51 the system went back to maemo Sep 28 17:46:17 vkvraju, at least you have not bricked the N900 Sep 28 17:46:27 I see scope in this but it is a bit of a risk to invest in a desktop jsut to learn meego Sep 28 17:46:35 oh, is there a chance to brick the N900 too? Sep 28 17:46:36 I don't think you can brick your N900, at least nobody in here has Sep 28 17:46:41 now, I am scraed to try further Sep 28 17:47:02 * dm8tbr still waits for bricks to build his house Sep 28 17:47:04 :-) Hey, I tried to be positive! Sep 28 17:47:32 So if nobody in here has, the chance for vkvraju to be the first are ... less than 10% or lower .. Sep 28 17:47:46 if I buy a new intel system and install linux , will I be able to learn and buld apps for netbooks as well as for handset ( in an emulator?) Sep 28 17:48:11 by default the N900 boots into meamo and I think it always will since you are unable to replace the NAND Sep 28 17:48:32 (I think) Sep 28 17:48:34 I want to try installing MeeGo and make a phone call. Is that possible? Sep 28 17:48:51 with the Nokia's 24 Sept image Sep 28 17:49:01 that depends, do you want to do it as a test or as an every day phone? Sep 28 17:49:09 as a test ofcourse Sep 28 17:49:30 py_newbie: $240 USD for a nettop without monitor Sep 28 17:50:04 or keyboard, or mouse, or wifi, or optical drive... Sep 28 17:50:32 :( cant go for nettop, has to be a workstation , if I don't get the full meego project later, I would be able to use the desktop for proper development Sep 28 17:51:00 CosmoHill: are there any better instructions to be followed for this installation process? Sep 28 17:51:59 I honestly have no idea Sep 28 17:52:19 Since I don't own a N900 I've never looked for flashing guides :) Sep 28 17:52:24 so if I buy a cheap low end intel cpu that has SSSE3 support, install linux, then I will be able to use meego to learn, right? Sep 28 17:52:39 almost Sep 28 17:52:45 almost? Sep 28 17:52:54 you also need to worry about the graphics card Sep 28 17:53:07 thats ok. so, anyone here that can help. Stskeeps? Sep 28 17:53:08 For example meego kinda works on my C2D laptop Sep 28 17:53:23 the reason it doesn't work fully is because it's got an nvidia graphics card, not an Intel one Sep 28 17:53:29 the default graphics on mobo wont work? Sep 28 17:53:53 ofcouse, I will go for a intel cpu + an intel mobo Sep 28 17:53:54 if they are intel and if it's not GMA500 then there's a good chance Sep 28 17:54:04 I think there will be a better list on the meego website Sep 28 17:54:22 I found generic sys reqs but not a list Sep 28 17:54:26 I will try again Sep 28 17:54:40 py_newbie: I speced up a cheap meego capable computer with the ability to be upgraded a lot Sep 28 17:55:07 yes, i agree Sep 28 17:55:23 once client pays ;) I can upgrade Sep 28 17:55:24 so you can go from a i3 with intergraded graphics to an i7 with PCI-E graphics and a load more RAM Sep 28 17:55:41 for me i3 is almost high end Sep 28 17:55:54 I am thinking a old dual core 2 cpu Sep 28 17:55:55 I have a Pentium 4 :) Sep 28 17:56:01 meego works on that Sep 28 17:56:08 ? Sep 28 17:56:15 yeah, I have a C2D laptop and meego kinda runs on that Sep 28 17:56:19 (see above) Sep 28 17:56:39 I have a dell poweregse sc430 with dual core cpu Sep 28 17:56:48 let me see if it supports SSSE3 Sep 28 17:57:04 lol, forgot it has a really crapy graphics chipset Sep 28 17:57:16 is it intel? Sep 28 17:57:19 s/poweregse/poweredge Sep 28 17:57:22 yes Sep 28 17:57:43 cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ssse3 Sep 28 17:57:57 has win7 x64 running Sep 28 17:58:07 I have a poweredge, 44kg of scrap Sep 28 17:58:10 but I will try some hardware info utility to find out Sep 28 17:58:45 poweredges are is heavy! the only think I dont like about them Sep 28 17:59:02 otherwise rock solid, very dependable Sep 28 17:59:15 mine is almost old enough to start highschool Sep 28 18:00:03 can you please give the specs of your cpu/mobo , I will use taht as a basic ref to buy a low end sytem Sep 28 18:00:25 hold on Sep 28 18:00:42 that is my poweredge does not workout, I think the graphcis chipset will not be compatible Sep 28 18:00:56 what is it? Sep 28 18:01:14 some 16mb onboard chipset Sep 28 18:01:16 you know you can boot meego off a memory stick / dvd to test it Sep 28 18:01:28 really, no Sep 28 18:01:29 thanks Sep 28 18:01:30 can that be adjusted in the BIOS? Sep 28 18:01:43 what should I download Sep 28 18:01:47 is there a live cd for meego Sep 28 18:01:55 the image is the livecd Sep 28 18:01:57 * py_newbie checking meego website Sep 28 18:03:54 CosmoHill: would you be referring to this : http://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook Sep 28 18:04:06 yes Sep 28 18:04:07 says for netbooks? Sep 28 18:04:11 ok Sep 28 18:04:29 I think the netbook refers to the UX Sep 28 18:04:52 what is the diff between MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks (Google Chrome Browser) and Sep 28 18:04:54 MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks Sep 28 18:05:15 I should go with MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks , right? Sep 28 18:05:38 for now, I just want to boot up and see if my system can run meego Sep 28 18:06:04 I've lost the computer spec but i know it was £203 GBP Sep 28 18:06:51 if you can give me ecant cpu and mobo model that will be great, that is all I need Sep 28 18:07:05 or even just the brand and model Sep 28 18:07:12 I will google for rest Sep 28 18:07:22 s/ecant/exact Sep 28 18:07:47 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5563.html Sep 28 18:07:52 I dont want to buy a low end system and find I made a mistake :P Sep 28 18:07:52 I think it may have been this one Sep 28 18:08:17 I'm not 100% sure so do whatever at your own risk Sep 28 18:08:29 :-) Sep 28 18:08:49 I will fly down and hold you responsible :-) Sep 28 18:08:55 hmm I have an idea Sep 28 18:09:29 you system is i3! Sep 28 18:09:41 I thought you said a pentium? Sep 28 18:10:09 * py_newbie cant affoard a i3 Sep 28 18:10:36 it maybe able to take a Pentium if it's the same socket and has an intergraded graphics Sep 28 18:10:54 I think a 2008 Mac mini would be meego capble Sep 28 18:11:02 CosmoHill: hi Sep 28 18:11:06 hello Sep 28 18:11:24 right, in about 20 mins I'm going to ignore all of you and go back to my homework Sep 28 18:11:42 * theplic sets the timer Sep 28 18:11:50 CosmoHill: thanks for your help Sep 28 18:11:56 you're welcome Sep 28 18:19:34 theplic: scratch that, I'm eating dinner. nom nom nom Sep 28 18:19:55 where does CosmoHill study? Sep 28 18:20:17 Anglia Ruskin University in England Sep 28 18:20:49 excellent Sep 28 18:21:00 indeed Sep 28 18:22:33 CosmoHill: kk Sep 28 18:22:50 Hi all Sep 28 18:23:02 Happy Meego user here :) Sep 28 18:23:06 Exept for Sep 28 18:23:06 yay Sep 28 18:23:13 * CosmoHill cocks gun Sep 28 18:23:27 Except dfor one thing : I see the boot console when I hit Alt+tab Sep 28 18:23:59 after a alted installation & a "/usr/sbin/first-boot" hand done Sep 28 18:24:30 any idea how to disable the main console to show on alt+tab <, Sep 28 18:24:33 <, Sep 28 18:24:37 Thank's Sep 28 18:24:45 you sure you're not going to tty0 by mistake? Sep 28 18:24:52 CosmoHill: sure Sep 28 18:25:40 even if, how can it be shown on a alt+tab that msut be catch by X for switching x apps ? Sep 28 18:26:23 I have no idea :) Sep 28 18:27:14 If i do a Alt+tab : first it show the boot tty, then next time it will switch to the next X app, thn again the tty, then the next X app... Sep 28 18:27:29 aw KzH Sep 28 18:27:31 grrr Sep 28 18:27:32 quitte anoying, isn't it ? :) Sep 28 18:28:02 I haven't found anything related on forums. Sep 28 18:33:05 anyway I've found something here : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1156 Sep 28 19:16:35 Hi, where I can account to this service build.obs.maemo.org Sep 28 19:16:57 I don't know but I hear it's an uphill battle Sep 28 19:19:28 So its there someting athoer build service around for meego? Sep 28 19:20:56 I think DawnFoster would be a good person to speak to about this Sep 28 19:21:28 ok, good to know. Thanks Sep 28 19:21:30 taiffu: there should be a community OBS coming within the next weeks Sep 28 19:21:41 ahaa Sep 28 19:22:17 so is everything in RC mode now Sep 28 19:24:09 or panic mode, depending on perspective Sep 28 19:25:03 :) Sep 28 19:25:59 oh good, it looks like Stskeeps answered before I got to it :) Sep 28 19:26:15 how many scary bugs do you have to squish Sep 28 20:01:24 msg Lynoure ping Sep 28 20:02:49 hmm Sep 28 20:07:41 <__key__> wh00p Sep 28 20:07:57 <__key__> u guys have a website for more information on meego ? Sep 28 20:08:24 www.google.com Sep 28 20:08:38 <__key__> u guys bought that site or what ? Sep 28 20:08:47 yes we bought it Sep 28 20:08:50 <__key__> maybe google forgot to re-register the domain ? Sep 28 20:08:54 <__key__> and u just snagged it up Sep 28 20:09:15 <__key__> hrmm Sep 28 20:09:25 <__key__> i don't see anything about meego at google.com Sep 28 20:09:30 <__key__> just a bunch of search stuff Sep 28 20:10:18 * __key__ thinks somebody is pulling his leg Sep 28 20:10:58 <__key__> can Meego run a Cucumber Task Queue ? Sep 28 20:11:24 I know a website that can answer that question. Sep 28 20:11:24 <__key__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato Sep 28 20:11:28 <__key__> ? Sep 28 20:11:34 <__key__> auke, what's that Sep 28 20:11:38 __key__: trolling again? Sep 28 20:11:39 :P Sep 28 20:11:40 http://google.com/ Sep 28 20:11:53 <__key__> Stskeeps, sup with u today? Sep 28 20:12:03 <__key__> auke, I don't think that site is yours Sep 28 20:12:04 __key__: fennec is what's up Sep 28 20:12:04 :P Sep 28 20:12:05 __key__: if you're serious, feel free to stay. if not, please, go somewhere else Sep 28 20:12:24 <__key__> auke, u don't like me? Sep 28 20:12:32 <__key__> ok then Sep 28 20:12:39 <__key__> i will leave u alone, hater Sep 28 20:13:18 where are the kickstart files stored for the various builds ? Sep 28 20:13:46 TSCHAKeee2: gitorious, either os base or infrastructure Sep 28 20:13:47 I came across them in the repos Sep 28 20:13:51 DawnFoster: any news on TSG tomorrow? Sep 28 20:14:00 Stskeeps: okay Sep 28 20:14:20 I am going to attempt to install the emgd from a tarball in postinstall, since there is no emgd repo any more Sep 28 20:14:48 TSCHAKeee2: sounds like fun Sep 28 20:14:56 TSCHAKeee2: i think vgrade did something like this already Sep 28 20:17:55 Stskeeps: vgrade pointed to a repository, which.. isn't there anymore.. i have been trying to get in touch with him. Sep 28 20:18:03 TSCHAKeee2: yes, but from tarball Sep 28 20:18:25 Stskeeps: i am going to attempt to do an install of the handset UX onto an Archos 9, and use that as the basis for my new orbiter research... Sep 28 20:18:28 ok. Sep 28 20:18:33 I guess i just need to flag him down. Sep 28 20:18:58 I'm cobbling bits together from different kickstart files, but wanted to see the baseline kickstarts being used in trunk. Sep 28 20:19:19 they're in meego.gitorious.org Sep 28 20:20:59 Stskeeps: I wish I knew :) Still trying to confirm as always Sep 28 20:21:24 DawnFoster: hehe, good luck then :) Sep 28 20:23:23 Stskeeps: found it, thank you Sep 28 20:24:06 Stskeeps: stupid question, does @build_id@ get set by OBS? Sep 28 20:24:15 no, by mic Sep 28 20:24:20 --release=daily for instance Sep 28 20:24:28 or 1.0.90blahblah Sep 28 20:25:23 understood Sep 28 20:25:27 okay! :D Sep 28 20:45:27 what would cause "mic.imgcreate.errors.CreatorError: Command 'file' is not available." ?? Sep 28 20:57:46 Hi, the hardware specs mentions , meego requires CPU: 32bit Intel Atom or Intel Core 2 CPU and a compatible Intel graphics chipset , Sep 28 20:57:58 I am planning on buying an intel core 2 duo cpu Sep 28 20:58:21 can some one pls point me to docs on "compatible Intel graphics chipset" Sep 28 20:59:00 I thought the default on an intel mobo would be ok, but would help to see list of compatible Intel graphics chipset to be sure Sep 28 20:59:39 anything except the gma500 Sep 28 20:59:46 there is a list somewhere Sep 28 21:00:36 Stskeeps: how much ram is free on the n900 Sep 28 21:01:17 http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook Sep 28 21:01:31 py_newbie: any processor with SSSE3 Sep 28 21:01:42 so C2D, Atom and the new "i" series Sep 28 21:02:25 CosmoHill: processor I figured out, it is mobo I want to be sure about, so that it has "compatible Intel graphics chipset" :P Sep 28 21:02:54 my guess is any intel mobo that supports a core 2 duo would be ok Sep 28 21:02:59 but just asking to be sure Sep 28 21:03:59 I am in India and here the hardware sellers have a NO return/exchange policy if I buy a mobo ( not compatible with meego) Sep 28 22:04:53 Hi Guys Sep 28 22:05:14 I hhave been searching for ages and wondering is there a note taking app for meego netbook Sep 28 22:05:28 something like tomboy ot gnote or conboy Sep 28 22:07:21 * thiago_home doesn't remember seeing any on the netbook menus Sep 28 22:07:27 but I didn't really look Sep 28 22:07:37 Terminal and browser are all I need :-) Sep 28 22:07:51 good man Sep 28 22:12:06 thanks, i'll keep looking to see if i can find a fedora one that might work Sep 28 22:14:38 TheSheMullet: you'd have to get the source rpm and compile if for meego, you can't just install any rpm package on any rpm based distro Sep 28 22:15:40 i have tried and install by downloading from git and from tar.gz Sep 28 22:16:08 each tie it just keeps looking for more libraries it needs so i gave up Sep 28 22:16:45 TheSheMullet: you're entering the realm of development then Sep 28 22:17:05 Have you loaded up the software catalogue tool to see if there's one available online that you could install ? Sep 28 22:17:47 i have tried using the manage apps and the garaage, as well as yum and zypper from the terminal Sep 28 22:17:50 not luck Sep 28 22:20:16 :( Sep 28 22:21:26 ah sure i'll just use text files for now Sep 28 22:21:43 hey slaine, how's it going? Sep 28 22:26:11 Hey CosmoHill, not bad, yourself ? Sep 28 22:26:38 things are mostly okay, just a bit stressed out about the unknown Sep 28 22:27:55 CosmoHill: I've had a pretty stressful summer Sep 28 22:28:01 hasn't quiet finished yet Sep 28 22:28:34 I started uni and parts of it are scaring me Sep 28 22:29:08 ha, right. Sep 28 22:30:00 I'm probably in a similar position, stretched too thin with projects over due, approaching deadline and more "urgent" work coming at me than I know what to do with Sep 28 22:30:37 I have to do things that I've never done before so I just need to get into the swing of things Sep 28 22:31:08 also I'm stressing out about having to select topics within a week to work on for the rest of the semester Sep 28 22:31:34 I have to finalise my dissertation and I need to make sure I can get a 1st from it Sep 28 22:38:29 right, I'm off to bed for a few hours, catch you tomorrow Sep 28 22:39:07 cyas Sep 28 22:39:27 night Sep 28 23:55:24 cyas Sep 29 01:38:56 * peb_ is gone. Gone since Tue Sep 28 09:07:00 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 29 02:59:57 2010