**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 06 02:59:57 2010 Oct 06 06:31:25 how can I get my gobi 2000 modem working in meego? the only documentation i've found is for gobi_loader but it isnt creating the /dev/ttyUSB device like it should Oct 06 06:49:24 Hi All. I am Charubala. I want to connect to internet through my mobile phone from meego. Could someone tell me how to connect? Oct 06 06:53:00 Does anyone tried using DUN in meego? Oct 06 07:05:46 I want to test dun in meego. Can somebody help me Oct 06 07:05:46 ? Oct 06 07:13:24 Anybody there? Oct 06 07:15:15 Does anyone see this message? Oct 06 07:15:19 yes Oct 06 07:16:21 moin Oct 06 07:16:21 Moo, Thanks for replying. I am new to irc channel. I was not sure that someone see my queries. Now i am sure. Thanks Oct 06 07:20:19 Does anyone have idea in DUN?. I want to test dun in meego. Can someone help me? Oct 06 07:24:00 Charubala: you're not too specific, what do you want to test specifically Oct 06 07:25:15 I don't know specifics (because I have no Bluetooth devices) but you should be able to use the hfp configuration in ofono Oct 06 07:25:46 not that I can help you really with the testing, but you're so vague with your call for help that those who can might not be able to tell if they can help you or not either Oct 06 07:25:48 Well, I have Bluetooth FAA Oct 06 07:26:12 Err Oct 06 07:26:45 Bluetooth devices but I don't use it Oct 06 07:27:09 Hi Myrtti. Thanks for helping me. I have installed Meego in my desktop. I have connected a bluetooth dongle and its working fine. I want to connect to the internet through my mobile phone. Could you please tell me what to do? Oct 06 07:28:01 no, I can't tell you because I've not tried that myself, but now that you've been more specific with what you want someone else might Oct 06 07:28:19 good luck Oct 06 07:28:36 Like I said Google for hfp in iconography Oct 06 07:28:45 Ofono * Oct 06 07:28:53 TermanaDesire: fail dictionary Oct 06 07:29:15 yeah thats right. Thanks for your time Myrtti Oct 06 07:29:53 Stskeeps: :p I think I need to add these words to my dictionary or switch to my n900 ;p Oct 06 07:35:07 looks like notebook wm doesn't allow dragging windows with ALT pressed :/ Oct 06 07:52:01 Hello! Oct 06 07:52:07 Does anyone know any websites where you come from specified list of applications meego? Oct 06 08:00:36 morning Oct 06 08:00:58 Good morning! Oct 06 08:16:15 npr664, didn't understand your question. Oct 06 08:24:54 I want to know a list of high-level application of meego Oct 06 08:25:35 errrm. well. the included stuff? Oct 06 08:26:07 yes Oct 06 08:26:28 does that not depend on product? Oct 06 08:27:08 I think yes. For example, the Netbook OS Meego Oct 06 08:28:03 npr664, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/netbook/repos/source/ ? Oct 06 08:29:21 does anyone know how long the LF take to reply to a flight itenerary proposition? Oct 06 08:29:42 I was thinking that when company X releases their netbook product Y they decide which applications comes with the device Oct 06 08:29:56 Tumi_: they do Oct 06 08:30:04 ok.. thank you! Oct 06 08:30:11 Tumi_, to be meego compliant they have to ship with a certain amount of "core" stuff Oct 06 08:30:30 bye! Oct 06 08:31:12 arfoll: that I was also thinking but are those applications decided yet? Oct 06 08:31:58 Tumi_, I think everything in the core repos. There is a discussion on the mailing list about it Oct 06 08:32:17 hmm, really? Oct 06 08:32:20 search meego-dev for compliance. there is a draft out Oct 06 08:32:30 okay Oct 06 08:33:47 there is a 74 thread discussion on it named - [MeeGo-dev] Trademark compliance, name usage, etc. Oct 06 08:34:05 and another smaller more recent one after one of the meetings where a draft spec is mentioned Oct 06 08:34:15 so there are a lot of ui-applications that has to be shipped with the product to be meego-compliant Oct 06 08:34:30 sounds bit weird to me Oct 06 08:36:20 Tumi_, not really the idea is to have a common UX, if you call it meego and have something completely custom then customers will get confused Oct 06 08:36:38 if you want to call it meego, consumers have to recognise it as such Oct 06 08:36:45 or be in bed with nokia/intel Oct 06 08:37:17 :D Oct 06 08:38:11 yep, that makes sense - still having some mobile-oriented software in my IVI or TV sounds a bit weird.. Oct 06 08:38:26 or the compliance lists are device type specific? Oct 06 08:40:18 Tumi_, I have no idea tbh. you'll have to join in the discussion on read the specs Oct 06 08:40:29 I just skimmed it but wasn't really that interested Oct 06 08:40:33 I hope I had the time :/ Oct 06 08:40:54 so enough of this, vader :) Oct 06 08:41:32 tbh it looks like no one is sure Oct 06 08:42:03 looks like that in many areas ;) Oct 06 08:44:45 shhhh Oct 06 08:44:50 it's a secret! Oct 06 08:45:00 tou! Oct 06 09:29:33 Has anyone tried connecting to internet thorugh mobile from meego Oct 06 09:29:33 ? Oct 06 09:32:17 I guess I'm going to, soon Oct 06 09:32:47 which kind of setup do you have? Oct 06 09:32:50 Charubala, isnt that like crossing the streams? Oct 06 09:34:07 Charubala: oh just realized that you probably mean using your cellular phone to connect your MeeGo laptop to internet? Oct 06 09:39:27 ...or some laptop connected to a meego handset to use mobile internet? Oct 06 09:41:54 or some meego handset to use mobile internet? Oct 06 09:44:29 * CosmoHill pokes Charubala Oct 06 10:01:11 Hi. I have installed Meego on my desktop and i have a nokia mobile with gprs connection. I have connected a bluetooth dongle to my desktop and its working fine. Now i want to connect to the internet through my nokia mobile Oct 06 10:03:28 Sorry for the late reply. I didnt see your reply for my query. Oct 06 10:32:58 Heh, Intel has stated that there won't be MeeGo handsets until 2011 Oct 06 10:33:21 Are we back to *Maemo* Harmattan then? Oct 06 10:34:05 how can they know anyway? Oct 06 10:34:05 :P Oct 06 10:34:24 There will be no Intel based MeeGo handsets until 2011 ;) Oct 06 10:35:52 well it must be so then if intel says so :/ Oct 06 10:37:12 and that "be" probably means that you can not find on the shelf of local mobile reseller Oct 06 10:37:51 That's the thing, they can only really know about stuff they're directly involved with - they will have no idea about anything nokia might be working on, for example :) Oct 06 10:38:11 and my company x Oct 06 10:39:13 but still I guess they're quite educated guesses =) Oct 06 10:39:31 "heads or tails" :p Oct 06 10:41:11 Stskeeps: I guess it must be interpreted as "no Intel-based Meego handsets" Oct 06 10:41:48 Stskeeps: Or Nokia marketing forgot to tell them that Harmattan=Meego Oct 06 10:47:39 i don't understand news anymore, maybe i am getting old. Oct 06 11:02:16 just read the company name into it Oct 06 11:03:20 if Intel says X then it applies to Intel products - if Nokia says Y then that applies to Nokia products, as easy as that - I don't see Intel announcing Nokia products or the other way round :) Oct 06 11:21:31 why meego has nautilus and banshee?they are slow Oct 06 11:21:51 wesbluemarine, show us something better Oct 06 11:21:58 ie, build it and run it Oct 06 11:22:23 amarok? Oct 06 11:22:25 don't just come here making random questions nobody can answer for you Oct 06 11:22:31 lol Oct 06 11:22:43 why nobody answer? Oct 06 11:22:56 RST38h: Will Harmattan be released this year? Oct 06 11:22:59 wesbluemarine, because you ask something that doesn't help Oct 06 11:23:08 doesn't amarok require KDE libs? Oct 06 11:23:29 Yes? :) Oct 06 11:23:30 if you came and said "I built amorak and it runs 100% faster, look heres a .rpm to try" Oct 06 11:23:34 people may listen Oct 06 11:23:34 it requires kdelibs :) Oct 06 11:23:48 shhh Oct 06 11:23:52 don't tell him that ;) Oct 06 11:24:07 but... lcuk everyone knows that nautilus is the slower fm for linux Oct 06 11:24:09 (used to also require kdebase-runtime, but with libplasma moved to kdelibs, that requirement is gone) Oct 06 11:24:15 there is thunar Oct 06 11:24:22 it's faster and lighter Oct 06 11:24:30 less deps Oct 06 11:24:50 wesbluemarine, windows explorer is faster Oct 06 11:24:55 why doesn't meego use that? Oct 06 11:25:02 c' mon.... Oct 06 11:25:04 no Oct 06 11:25:06 i am serious Oct 06 11:25:10 me too Oct 06 11:25:17 then you build yours first Oct 06 11:25:19 :P Oct 06 11:25:23 yes but Oct 06 11:25:28 it's only a question Oct 06 11:25:32 but what? theres sdk available Oct 06 11:25:44 listen to me lol Oct 06 11:26:05 why, lots of people put time and effort into nautilus and it works well Oct 06 11:26:07 there is a reason i think, to choose nautilus Oct 06 11:26:09 no? Oct 06 11:26:36 netbook ux is like it was in moblin. Oct 06 11:27:50 ux? Oct 06 11:28:11 user experience Oct 06 11:28:14 like, what runs on netbooks Oct 06 11:29:15 mmh but is there clutter? Oct 06 11:29:32 yes, on netbook ux Oct 06 11:29:35 it's getting phased out eventually Oct 06 11:29:39 i thought always was of qt Oct 06 11:29:41 nop Oct 06 11:29:44 netbook ux comes from moblin Oct 06 11:29:57 so the bar is clutter? Oct 06 11:30:25 i guess Oct 06 11:31:27 mhhhhhhh Oct 06 11:31:36 handset ux is qt Oct 06 11:31:38 and so's IVI Oct 06 11:32:12 mmh Oct 06 12:30:05 DawnFoster: i need to poke someone about OSU Oct 06 12:30:11 preferably soon, although not w/in the next hour Oct 06 12:30:21 * timeless_mbp needs to run an errand :( Oct 06 12:53:23 timeless_mbp: did you're weekend plans in Dublin pan out ok ? Oct 06 12:54:00 yeah Oct 06 12:54:07 great Oct 06 12:54:10 it wasn't healthy for my bank account Oct 06 12:54:15 but otherwise :) Oct 06 12:54:19 :) Oct 06 12:54:21 weekends in dublin rarely are Oct 06 12:54:53 well, it turns out that had i planned a bit more carefully there was a place that would have saved 15mins of walking each way and probably 90% of the cost Oct 06 12:55:03 but that's the price of not doing proper advanced planning Oct 06 12:55:06 eek Oct 06 12:55:18 besides, i got to swim at least once Oct 06 12:55:37 actually there was a hostel which i ended up using for my last night which was a few blocks from the hotel i stayed in Oct 06 12:56:02 but ironically it would have been *less* convenient for the nights i was staying in Oct 06 12:56:07 (the hotel staff was very helpful) Oct 06 12:56:13 (and understanding) Oct 06 13:33:46 for those that are interested - http://news.opensuse.org/2010/10/06/announcing-smeegol-1-0/ Oct 06 13:33:57 how did you end up dealing with theme packages and such Oct 06 13:33:57 ? Oct 06 13:35:02 which packages? Oct 06 13:35:10 oh sorry theme Oct 06 13:35:31 gconf settings iirc Oct 06 13:35:33 as that's the stuff having the restricted licenses Oct 06 13:35:52 released on my birthday! \o/ Oct 06 13:36:05 and replacing them with your own theming? Oct 06 13:36:44 we're not using MeeGo themes/branding Oct 06 13:36:55 yeah, i figured as much Oct 06 13:37:00 just wondered what you replaced them with :) Oct 06 13:37:17 happy birthday, Robot101 Oct 06 13:37:58 Stskeeps, yeah mostly stock openSUSE theme bits Oct 06 13:38:01 k Oct 06 13:38:03 is libmeegotouchcompiling without dbus? Oct 06 13:38:29 th0br0: thanks :) Oct 06 13:38:42 Stskeeps, tbh it isnt perfect as i seem to get some gtk1.0 looking bits at times Oct 06 13:43:02 does emgd work with xorg 1.9 ? Oct 06 13:52:45 smeegol is a great name! Oct 06 14:09:57 holy crap Oct 06 14:10:17 they actually called SUSE MeeGo Smeegol Oct 06 14:11:04 no, that's opensuse meego Oct 06 14:11:33 ah Oct 06 14:12:28 *nods* It's just a community project by opensuse people, it's not a suse project in any other way really :) Oct 06 14:12:44 Well, i say "just", it's still pretty nicely doe ;) Oct 06 14:12:54 done* Oct 06 14:13:37 Hey. I need some help. I'm planning to use meego on my nettop as its only OS. Is it possible to use vlc or get plugins for various media playback yet? Oct 06 14:18:47 maybe this would help: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=269 Oct 06 15:52:09 humdidumdidum Oct 06 16:03:15 qgil: replied to your email btw Oct 06 16:04:47 Jaffa: saw it, thanks Oct 06 16:07:40 qgil: Sorry for delay - been in bed all day with the migraine from yesterday Oct 06 16:08:09 i saw in the maemo forum post about running swt on 900...since we're thinking about using DWT (post of SWT to D) for our project, i wonder what do you think about running DWT(SWT) app on mmego? Oct 06 16:08:15 I don't consider "delay" to emails not arriving while I'm sleeping ;) Oct 06 16:08:34 Jaffa: I wish you're doing better now Oct 06 16:10:02 qgil: well, I'm up ;-) Oct 06 17:35:03 * CosmoHill takes some awesome sky pictures Oct 06 17:36:38 pitch black? Oct 06 17:38:37 #000000 ? Oct 06 17:40:22 aliens Oct 06 17:40:54 todays apod is awesome http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ Oct 06 18:32:19 Some ideas about when Meego will be released? Oct 06 18:33:33 halvors: it was released months ago Oct 06 18:33:40 I assume you mean 1.1 ? Oct 06 18:33:50 But i mean for handsets Oct 06 18:33:55 that's for 1.1 Oct 06 18:34:03 Ok. Oct 06 18:34:07 which is due out by the end of this month Oct 06 18:34:23 you can download pre-releases to test Oct 06 18:34:35 Ok, so then i can get a phone that run meego? Oct 06 18:35:16 If you got an n900 you could run meego pre-releases now Oct 06 18:35:19 Does anybody know some good upcoming models that runs meego? Oct 06 18:35:34 No new hardware has been announced Oct 06 18:35:54 But if i wait to the end of the month i will get an better one. Oct 06 18:36:10 Only if new hardware is announced Oct 06 18:36:11 Is N9 and N900 the same phone? Oct 06 18:36:15 No Oct 06 18:36:35 I heard that N9 will run meego. Oct 06 18:36:47 Can i test the handset meego version on my pc? Oct 06 18:36:54 There's been no announcement to that affect that I know of Oct 06 18:37:08 Yes, there's a meego SDK Oct 06 18:37:19 see meego.com for details Oct 06 18:37:26 What you mean about SDK? Oct 06 18:37:39 Software Developer Kit Oct 06 18:38:04 http://news.opensuse.org/2010/10/06/announcing-smeegol-1-0/ Oct 06 18:38:05 It lets you test your software in a virtual meego handset session Oct 06 18:40:42 Cool Oct 06 18:44:58 slaine: Where can i get the Meego SDK? Oct 06 18:45:06 Does not find it at the site. Oct 06 18:46:18 Oh come on, it's on the front page Oct 06 18:46:24 you can't have tried that hard Oct 06 18:46:40 TSG meeting is cancelled tonight due to health problems Oct 06 18:47:28 Stskeeps: sigh Oct 06 18:47:38 first one I've managed to set time aside for in months Oct 06 18:47:47 awewell, I'll got and get some dinner so Oct 06 18:47:47 slaine: more time for playing openttd for me :) Oct 06 18:48:05 more time to assemble my ikea kitchen that arrived today Oct 06 18:48:08 :( Oct 06 18:48:23 i chickened out and paid them to assemble my wardrobe Oct 06 18:48:24 :P Oct 06 18:48:30 tsk Oct 06 18:48:47 though I am paying a carpenter to install it Oct 06 18:49:15 it was open source (ie, plans how to assemble it was there) so i didn't feel bad supporting people doing the assembling ;) Oct 06 18:49:22 im trying to install meego on the n900, but i'm having trouble Oct 06 18:49:47 ok, Catch you all tomorrow Oct 06 18:49:51 have a good one Oct 06 18:50:40 anyone here know a site with step by steps on installing meego on the n900? Oct 06 18:50:59 vnepo: grab image from repo.meego.com and follow wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 06 18:51:13 okay thanks! Oct 06 18:51:28 we need a faq-bot Oct 06 18:51:30 :) Oct 06 18:51:49 or infobot Oct 06 18:51:54 either Oct 06 18:52:27 infobot: meego-n900 is grab image from repo.meego.com (meego-handset-armv7l-n900) and follow http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 06 18:52:27 Stskeeps: okay Oct 06 18:52:31 ~meego-n900 Oct 06 18:52:32 rumour has it, meego-n900 is grab image from repo.meego.com (meego-handset-armv7l-n900) and follow http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 06 18:53:26 infobot, meego-n900? Oct 06 18:53:26 rumour has it, meego-n900 is grab image from repo.meego.com (meego-handset-armv7l-n900) and follow http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 06 18:54:07 cool Oct 06 18:55:18 memory stick Oct 06 18:55:20 hmm Oct 06 18:55:29 can i use any or do you guys recommend one? Oct 06 18:55:33 4gb/8gb? Oct 06 18:55:36 16gb Oct 06 18:55:56 for n900, it needs to be a micro-SD card Oct 06 18:56:21 do you have a recommended micro-SD card? Oct 06 18:56:30 slaine: Seems like download server is down... Oct 06 18:56:38 at a good price Oct 06 18:56:49 I think 2gb is the minimum. the rest is your choice Oct 06 18:56:57 vnepo: class 4 or higher is good Oct 06 18:57:16 there are some brands selling 'class 6' or higher cards, those are nice Oct 06 18:57:21 higher class means faster card Oct 06 19:04:11 oh Oct 06 19:04:20 where can i buy those higher class ones Oct 06 19:04:24 and what brand? Oct 06 19:04:33 brand doesn't matter too much Oct 06 19:04:36 im thinking of getting a 4gb one Oct 06 19:04:36 and in shops Oct 06 19:04:37 oh yeah Oct 06 19:04:40 okay Oct 06 19:04:49 your local (/internet) electronics dealer can help you Oct 06 19:05:02 auke: it's actually sometimes difficult to find one.. Oct 06 19:05:07 amazon.com has a ton if you can order from there, or newegg, or ... Oct 06 19:05:12 i can only find class 6 16gb ones locally Oct 06 19:05:16 which are ..expensive Oct 06 19:05:24 it depends on where you live, yes Oct 06 19:05:40 while thinking about size, did you ever get anywhere with resizing btrfs partition? Oct 06 19:05:54 no Oct 06 19:06:14 I mean, I have a plan for in the future support it Oct 06 19:06:30 but no implementation other than some neuron connections in my brain Oct 06 19:06:33 :nod: Oct 06 19:07:04 it does mean we need btrfs subvol support across all vertical bootloaders Oct 06 19:07:31 why? Oct 06 19:09:03 otherwise I can't support resizing properly Oct 06 19:09:14 hrm, ok Oct 06 19:09:20 btrfs resizing isn't the issue Oct 06 19:09:32 it's partition resizing that's one of the bigger obstacles Oct 06 19:09:39 brb free pizza Oct 06 19:09:44 aw, now i want pizza Oct 06 19:09:45 :P Oct 06 19:09:54 talk to Margie :D Oct 06 19:10:06 i don't intend to fly to portland tonight Oct 06 19:10:07 :P Oct 06 19:25:14 is 4gb enough for meego? Oct 06 19:25:19 or should i go higher? Oct 06 19:25:35 how come I can't install it over maemo? Oct 06 19:25:38 our images are 2gb Oct 06 19:25:41 because we're too fat Oct 06 19:25:51 lol i dont get it Oct 06 19:26:55 so would i always need the microsd card to use meego or this is just needed for installation..? Oct 06 19:37:54 vnepo: for the time being, operation of an SD card is the only supported method of running MeeGo on the N900. Oct 06 19:38:13 maybe later you'll be able to install to the eMMC, but I don't think install to the OneNAND will ever be possible Oct 06 19:51:38 oh Oct 06 19:51:40 gotcha Oct 06 21:04:40 hi all Oct 06 21:04:54 anybody ever installed GoogleEarth on meego? Oct 06 21:05:05 sure, I have Oct 06 21:05:13 i wonder why it takes that long Oct 06 21:05:42 how are you installing? Oct 06 21:05:56 it's been a while, I think I just downloaded a tarball originally Oct 06 21:06:01 do they have an rpm now? Oct 06 21:06:28 got the *.bin file from the website, then ran it using sh Oct 06 21:07:21 its running for over half an hour now Oct 06 21:07:43 hello there, does anyone know where in the code i can find who uses libsocialweb? Oct 06 21:08:07 using other distros on the same machine installing googleearth worked very quick Oct 06 21:11:26 etrunko, you can query rpm to find out what projects require it, does that answer your question? Oct 06 21:11:39 hey guys Oct 06 21:11:52 AlexAnteMachina, perhaps it's trying to query the network to get cache/map data? Oct 06 21:12:06 Stskeeps, how can i get ur drivers for the meego on n900 Oct 06 21:12:15 nah... it works... but really slow Oct 06 21:12:23 aubrey: not quite, i'm actually trying to write an example app (not for meego) that would use libsocialweb as backend Oct 06 21:12:50 aubrey: via dbus, of course. :) Oct 06 21:12:57 so i'm trying to find an example of use Oct 06 21:13:02 not lucky at all so far Oct 06 21:13:04 there's several apps in meego.gitorious.org Oct 06 21:13:15 that's where you probably should look Oct 06 21:13:27 both in the netbook ui and handset ui sections Oct 06 21:14:11 yeah, they're not much descriptive Oct 06 21:14:13 will try then Oct 06 22:09:08 oh wow Oct 06 22:09:20 qgil worked a miracle Oct 06 22:09:29 ok, time for me to play w/ expedia and co Oct 06 22:10:40 how miracle timeless_mbp Oct 06 22:11:19 qgil is just great btw. the kind of guy you'd follow into battle. Oct 06 22:11:45 oh, i'm going to meegoconf Oct 06 22:11:56 dublin? Oct 06 22:12:16 yes Oct 06 22:12:21 now i just have to figure out when that is Oct 06 22:12:28 you should be everywhere - you're the main man with a foot in the community Oct 06 22:12:38 15 November Oct 06 22:12:55 timeless_mbp, congrats. Oct 06 22:13:00 timeless_mbp, hope to see you there. Oct 06 22:13:52 dublin... maybe i should go too... Oct 06 22:13:58 pupnik, do. Oct 06 22:14:00 just to catch a whiff of that country Oct 06 22:14:32 i think i will Oct 06 22:14:37 * MohammadAG51 still hasn't decided Oct 06 22:14:57 last year at school and all, tickets aren't that cheap for 3 days Oct 06 22:14:58 would cost a lot Oct 06 22:15:24 there might be a holiday on 15/11 here, if that's the case i'll go for a week Oct 06 22:18:36 MohammadAG51, why didn't you apply for sponsorship? Oct 06 22:19:15 I don't think i qualify for one Oct 06 22:21:04 MohammadAG51, how would you know? Oct 06 22:21:12 You're the community SSU guy, c'mon. Oct 06 22:22:12 heh, still haven't announced that Oct 06 22:24:57 I hate it when people dismiss themselves from the sponsorship without even applying. Oct 06 22:25:09 Because it's usually people who deserve it. Oct 06 22:25:41 GAN900, so true Oct 06 22:26:32 good workers generally don't crave recognition Oct 06 22:26:37 Which means the sponsorship slots get filled up with people who don't. Oct 06 22:27:17 I should've done more active reconoitering to make sure people whi should've applied, had. Oct 06 22:29:26 GAN900, there's always next year :) Oct 06 22:29:37 MohammadAG51, hopefully. ;) Oct 06 22:29:55 * TSCHAKeee2 wants to shoot his archos 9 Oct 06 22:29:58 argh Oct 06 22:30:09 Why do you have an Archos? Oct 06 22:31:13 I wanted to see if I could do meegotouch r&d work on this archos Oct 06 22:31:16 because it's got a huge screen Oct 06 22:31:23 and it was reasonably x86 bsaed Oct 06 22:31:36 and the cpu is pretty fast, and decent performance if you have the right drivers Oct 06 22:31:40 problem is Oct 06 22:31:56 it's GMA500, _requires EMGD_, and the EMGD that intel builds, only works with Meego 1.0 release Oct 06 22:32:05 GAN900, when does registration close anyways? Oct 06 22:32:11 MeeGo 1.0 has already moved to Xorg 1.9, and Kernel 2.6.35 Oct 06 22:32:22 which EMGD does NOT function correctly with AT ALL. Oct 06 22:32:27 no way to patch it Oct 06 23:03:17 Stskeeps: new sample-media package is pending acceptance for 1.1 core... Oct 06 23:03:31 Stskeeps: if you can, give it a test run Oct 06 23:04:12 auke: can we please beg Intel to get EMGD into meego? ;) Oct 06 23:04:23 of course Oct 06 23:04:26 begging is permitted Oct 06 23:04:38 sorry :) Oct 06 23:04:42 * TSCHAKeee2 laughs Oct 06 23:04:58 auke: the whole mess with GMA500 is reducing me to the fetal position. Oct 06 23:05:19 the problem isn't Intel, but the company who Intel got the hardware from Oct 06 23:05:26 yeah, i am aware Oct 06 23:05:29 Intel at least has tried hard enough Oct 06 23:06:33 I wonder how many people are standing outside Imagination's building now with signs asking for free drivers :) Oct 06 23:07:40 auke: i am trying like hell to get meegotouch running under gma500 Oct 06 23:07:46 and at some point, the shaders changed Oct 06 23:07:54 and now mcompositor pukes when I try to run it Oct 06 23:07:58 *facepalm* Oct 06 23:09:29 I admire your courage, really Oct 06 23:11:22 auke: I want so badly to make a Tablet UX, because one does not exist yet Oct 06 23:11:39 auke: but I can't even get the most basic pieces to function.. I mean dear god, if mcompositor/mdecorator at least would function Oct 06 23:11:43 I COULD DO THE REST Oct 06 23:11:45 #(#@%(#@%@#(%(#@ :P Oct 06 23:12:05 hehe Oct 06 23:12:11 as it is Oct 06 23:12:15 i will have to shelve this Oct 06 23:12:19 and wait 6 months Oct 06 23:12:19 developing a UI on badly supported hardware... not the best idea :) Oct 06 23:12:30 while i have a $400 tablet Oct 06 23:12:35 that is now a brick Oct 06 23:12:41 auke: it's the right hardware for what i am targeting Oct 06 23:12:46 I know Oct 06 23:12:53 wish I could help, sorry Oct 06 23:14:10 something will work... i guess i'll just repurpose mutter Oct 06 23:14:16 sigh Oct 06 23:15:01 nooooo not mutter Oct 06 23:15:56 mutter works Oct 06 23:37:17 MohammadAG51, still open, but sponsorship is closed. Oct 06 23:40:56 i got my approval just now. i'm stoked Oct 06 23:46:11 hello everybody Oct 06 23:46:25 quand est ce que le meilleur os sort Oct 06 23:46:51 kevinB: sorry, english channel Oct 06 23:46:56 27 of october n00b Oct 06 23:46:56 thebootroo: hello Oct 06 23:47:00 I know Oct 06 23:47:07 auke: hello Oct 06 23:47:11 I just wanna show how beautiful is french Oct 06 23:47:12 ;D Oct 06 23:47:16 I said Oct 06 23:47:24 french is ugly (PS: i'm french) Oct 06 23:47:25 When s the best OS for smartphone out Oct 06 23:47:26 :D Oct 06 23:47:29 SoOOOOOOOn Oct 06 23:47:55 thebootroo: why calling people n00b? please don't do that. Oct 06 23:48:01 Yes Oct 06 23:48:05 you hurted me Oct 06 23:48:07 auke: don't woory its a friend ;-) Oct 06 23:48:12 kevinB: hehe Oct 06 23:48:14 no i'm not Oct 06 23:48:20 yes you're Oct 06 23:48:27 .... dearn00b Oct 06 23:48:28 He keeps following me on all the chan I gop Oct 06 23:48:33 lol Oct 06 23:48:42 you connect ed AFTER me Oct 06 23:48:43 GAN900: you're going to the conference, right? i'm having a tad bit of difficulty finding really cheap tickets. what's considered acceptable? Oct 06 23:48:53 so you keep on following me Oct 06 23:48:55 thebootroo: kevinB: please, no games in here. Oct 06 23:49:01 ;) Oct 06 23:49:03 auke: ok Oct 06 23:49:11 ./kick KevinB Oct 06 23:49:14 hehe Oct 06 23:49:24 so Oct 06 23:50:35 did anyone here achieved on getting a regular Maemo 5 Plain Qt app (Facebrick, Grr ...) running on MeeGo handset ? and i f yes, how does it looked like ? did it have MeeGo's Style ? Oct 06 23:51:16 thebootroo, theres a bug relating: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7881 Oct 06 23:51:26 sudo kevin -quit Oct 06 23:51:27 ;-) Oct 06 23:51:36 the last archivement i unlocked was: bringing your n900 to the store for usb-port repair Oct 06 23:51:41 lcuk: what is this bug related ? Oct 06 23:51:58 v2px: sry for u Oct 06 23:52:04 :| Oct 06 23:52:22 it's gone for 2 days now Oct 06 23:52:24 DawnFoster: you around? Oct 06 23:52:34 v2px: soooo sad :-( Oct 06 23:53:18 i'm glad i kept my 6230 :D Oct 06 23:53:35 lcuk: this is a serious problem IMo Oct 06 23:53:59 cant even launch a qt app in a qt wm ! O.o Oct 06 23:54:49 so this means window integration is not done vie XReparentWindow() ?? Oct 06 23:55:30 thebootroo, it means its a bug :O Oct 06 23:55:43 lcuk: a very strange bug tough Oct 06 23:56:11 so apps need to be in libmt to work ? Oct 06 23:56:29 temporary oversight Oct 06 23:56:32 kind of active integration in compositor instead of passive one ? Oct 06 23:56:35 gtk ones work :P Oct 06 23:56:43 to a degree Oct 06 23:56:44 even more strange so Oct 06 23:56:59 but xterm don't Oct 07 00:00:47 and another Q: Oct 07 00:01:02 is the camera app for handset UX being developped ? Oct 07 00:03:16 see: http://meego.gitorious.com/meego-handset-ux for a list of handset UX applications and components Oct 07 00:03:53 so no Oct 07 00:04:20 did you look? Oct 07 00:04:28 yes Oct 07 00:05:21 what's this: http://meego.gitorious.com/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-photo Oct 07 00:05:32 the album ;-) Oct 07 00:05:34 actually Oct 07 00:05:36 yes Oct 07 00:05:46 there's no camera application for handset UX yet, is the answer I got Oct 07 00:05:58 yes Oct 07 00:06:39 it's planned for 1.2 Oct 07 00:06:45 2bad Oct 07 00:07:20 anything else I can help you with? Oct 07 00:07:54 one thing thaht i woudl have loved to see in meego browser (which is fennec, i don't like it very much but so..) is the swirling zoom, like in maemo 5 Oct 07 00:08:48 and i really wonder why they keep using a such browser, when its so easy to develop a qt one since QtWebkit is well integrated Oct 07 00:09:13 i dont like gtk, nor gecko Oct 07 00:09:16 I think there are plans to do something like that Oct 07 00:09:30 do what ? Oct 07 00:09:44 switch to a different browser engine Oct 07 00:10:31 they can drop the complete browser cause ui toolkit is wrong too (they have to overlay the ux to get integrated - far from perfect - in meego UX) Oct 07 00:11:02 i think a full libMeeGoTouch browser would be well, and quite quick to develop Oct 07 00:11:34 thebootroo: do it Oct 07 00:11:41 i've myself developped a couple of programs in qt and this is very quick Oct 07 00:11:48 yup Oct 07 00:11:55 TSCHAKeee2: sry i already have a big project on my shoulder Oct 07 00:12:06 what project is that? Oct 07 00:12:12 ModernOS Oct 07 00:12:26 will it help MeeGo? Oct 07 00:12:35 not specially Oct 07 00:12:47 amazing how many ppl think they can make a linux distribution Oct 07 00:12:48 the project is very anterior to meegi Oct 07 00:12:50 or a whole new OS Oct 07 00:13:07 TSCHAKeee2: yes I can because I want Oct 07 00:13:43 its not yet another distro, its a deeply rethinked linux kernel and qt based OS for noobs Oct 07 00:13:45 http://modern-os.projects.servhome.org/news-item?id=77 Oct 07 00:13:46 * TSCHAKeee2 has been working on a massive whole house smart home platform for almost a decade, and still has 20 years of work left to do. Oct 07 00:14:05 my website is in french but screenies are in english Oct 07 00:14:23 i've for example implemented the Maemo 5 switcher in and it's all qt Oct 07 00:15:54 you may find a taste of moblin / meego netbook, but don't get wrong, i had the idea for my project since 6 years, so before the first moblin version Oct 07 00:17:19 no worries Oct 07 00:17:33 alright, I'm packing up Oct 07 00:17:35 later folks Oct 07 00:17:56 ok bb **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 07 02:53:27 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 07 02:59:56 2010