**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 08 02:59:57 2010 Oct 08 03:31:16 give me URL for suitable REP, please Oct 08 05:22:44 trying the Build rpm without chroot or OBS getting errors Oct 08 05:22:56 some one knows about the same? Oct 08 09:49:49 i'm planning to get a laptop that i could run meego sdk ( http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Pre-requisites ), and would work also otherwise decently with linux (sleeping, wlan etc). do you have any good experiences with laptops you could recommend? Oct 08 10:41:08 Hello! Oct 08 10:41:16 If you do not mind I am going to ask a question. Oct 08 10:41:31 Do you know if there are any current operating system version Meego, with support multitouch? Oct 08 10:56:08 timakima: we use samsung-nc10 Oct 08 10:57:24 although, IMO, development is easier by running on QEMU on desktop PC Oct 08 11:06:31 Tumi_: we have nc10 too but would like to have more power :) Oct 08 11:09:35 power is overestimated. optimize your code! ;D Oct 08 11:10:12 lol Oct 08 11:10:24 * CosmoHill looks at adobe Oct 08 11:10:48 I don't like the fact that we need more and more powerful computers to do the same stuff Oct 08 11:11:19 like itunes 10 requires a 1Ghz processor where as before 10 it was 500Mhz or osmehting Oct 08 11:11:29 a big hammer and brute force solves all problems :) Oct 08 11:11:53 I shouldn't need a big hammer for 480p youtube Oct 08 11:15:48 if it has extracoolglorious enhancement algorithms! Oct 08 11:16:17 couple of years ago i updated from 1ghz powerpc to 2,2 ghz core2duo running os x. and my first reaction was that the ui is slower Oct 08 11:18:15 I never used powerpc macs :/ with core2duo it was running quite nicely anyway Oct 08 11:18:29 just needs SSD =) Oct 08 11:19:00 i recall that osx was very slow on g4, especially with low ram Oct 08 11:19:28 i liked the powerpc ibook much more than the new ones. lot better build quality and better keyboard. i run debian in it but it gets difficult to get powerpc binaries for some applications Oct 08 11:19:35 CosmoHill, kittens look cuter in HD Oct 08 11:19:37 10.3 was ok Oct 08 11:20:08 10.3. with g4 and 512mt ram was ok Oct 08 11:20:28 but with finder you had to play some beach games time to time Oct 08 11:20:40 I've been away for awhile so I've missed a lot. What were thoughts here considering the resignation of Ari Jaaksi? Oct 08 11:20:55 but real multitasking apps were pretty nice Oct 08 11:21:14 I find that spotlight / finder on 10.5 goes a little nuts sometimes Oct 08 11:22:28 * CosmoHill runs 10.5 on a 1.67Ghz G4 (fastest apple did) with 1.5GB of RAM Oct 08 11:22:36 Excuse me! Oct 08 11:22:38 If you do not mind I am going to ask a question. Oct 08 11:22:40 Do you know if there are any current operating system version Meego, with support multitouch? Oct 08 11:23:00 npr664: meego 1.1 does, i think Oct 08 11:24:18 This is done by the library libmeegotouch? Oct 08 11:24:45 xorg, qt Oct 08 11:25:16 Then Meego supports multitouch Oct 08 11:26:09 but, are there any application developed for multi-touch? Oct 08 11:26:24 browser at least. Oct 08 11:26:25 i think duihome uses it Oct 08 11:26:57 I mean in the repositories Oct 08 11:26:59 I meant photobrowser. Oct 08 11:28:34 So photobrowser supports multi-touch? Oct 08 11:28:35 why does collabora sound familar Oct 08 11:28:55 npr664: i think you can pintch to zoom in and our Oct 08 11:28:57 out* Oct 08 11:33:06 ok.. thank you! Oct 08 11:33:11 bye! Oct 08 11:33:29 cyas .o/ Oct 08 13:10:51 is FAKE ??? --> http://tessatheslut.com/?id=7ve8h00h3wxnwgu1q8cqlwcp8stt4t Oct 08 13:13:05 god dammit I need to stop clicking links from random people Oct 08 13:29:55 CosmoHill: "tessa the slut dot com" didnt sound any alarms in your head? ;) Oct 08 13:34:52 frals, I imagine some people have similar set as homepage Oct 08 13:38:28 give any rep URL for meego Oct 08 13:38:40 repo.meego.com .. Oct 08 13:38:55 no... there is too little Oct 08 13:39:04 no, there's all Oct 08 13:39:04 :P Oct 08 13:39:12 fedora core suit? Oct 08 13:39:22 uhm..? Oct 08 13:39:22 :P Oct 08 13:39:47 i need ntfs-3g, gcc, some office, wine Oct 08 13:39:53 samba also Oct 08 13:39:57 look for community repos on forum.meego.com Oct 08 13:40:03 gcc's on repo.meego.com though Oct 08 13:40:41 would be a weird distro without gcc :) Oct 08 13:40:42 this cheched, but when compile, gcc not found Oct 08 13:40:49 tLight: you have to install it Oct 08 13:44:06 if i load Live Flash with "rw root... " this wiil be as well as i worked with installed meego? Oct 08 13:47:35 after install Meego on netbook Lenovo s10-3t, windows says "battery need to replace" Oct 08 14:03:44 command "yum" not found, Release 1.0.90 Oct 08 14:03:50 zypper.. Oct 08 14:03:53 netbook Oct 08 15:15:09 trying do this: Oct 08 15:15:11 sudo zypper addrepo ftp://volkoff.ru/repo/meego/i386/ "Community Repo" Oct 08 15:15:40 says, System management is locked by the application with pid (zypper) Oct 08 15:15:49 but i not start this Oct 08 15:17:07 how add rep in zypper , release 1.0.90 Oct 08 15:41:22 dneary "[~dneary@Maemo/community/docmaster/dneary] has joined #meego" - how do you do this? Oct 08 15:41:49 I guess it's that cloak thing someone mentioned a few months ago Oct 08 15:41:58 I didn't do anything specifically Oct 08 15:42:12 I bet your is similar (try leaving & coming back, I'll tell you) Oct 08 15:42:19 aaaahhh - one image is more worth than thousand words ;) Oct 08 15:42:23 qgil, I believe its X-Fade that arranges them (at least fro mthe maemo side) Oct 08 15:42:25 I don't really care ;) Oct 08 15:42:40 qgil: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:maemo.org_IRC_cloaks Oct 08 15:42:42 qgil, cloaks we handed out earlier in the year. Oct 08 15:42:45 nor me, but I was curious about the How Oct 08 15:42:49 qgil, its based on the freenode GRF Oct 08 15:42:58 qgil, talk to X-Fade or me. Oct 08 15:43:04 You can see it if you look at the nickserv messages when you register Oct 08 15:43:12 Not sure for MeeGo. Oct 08 15:43:13 now it's evident that I never quite got the cloaks discussion :) Oct 08 15:43:16 -NickServ- You are now identified for dneary. Oct 08 15:43:16 --- Maemo/community/docmaster/dneary :is now your hidden host (set by services.) Oct 08 15:43:24 qgil, Me too Oct 08 15:43:45 GAN900, It's not a chanserv thing, it's a nickserv thing Oct 08 15:44:02 DawnFoster, Ping? Oct 08 15:44:09 hey dneary Oct 08 15:44:33 DawnFoster, Fancy running a mass werewolf game at the meego conference? I'd love to play, never seen the game in action Oct 08 15:44:46 oooooh, I would love to do that! Oct 08 15:44:55 DawnFoster, If we get ~30 players, 4 werewolves... Oct 08 15:44:56 and I've done a fair amount of moderating Oct 08 15:45:13 DawnFoster, Although you'll have to explain the set-up Oct 08 15:45:21 for 30 players, I might even do 5 werewolves. Oct 08 15:45:24 I can do that Oct 08 15:45:42 We play monthly in Portland and we always have new players to explain it to Oct 08 15:45:43 Does everyone lie down on the ground? Seems like you'd make noise getting up to see who the other werewolves are & give yourself away Oct 08 15:45:51 no Oct 08 15:45:51 cloaks, werewolves... I'm learning a lot of unexpected things today Oct 08 15:46:07 it sure feels like a friday Oct 08 15:46:08 we sit in a circle and make noise during the night cycle to cover up movement Oct 08 15:46:12 qgil, werewolf is a group game involving deceipt & strategy Oct 08 15:46:21 mooing, zombie noises or foot stomping Oct 08 15:46:33 that makes everything clear ;) Oct 08 15:46:47 qgil, You have a group of players, with 1 "seer" who can find out (via the moderator) if a given person is a werewolf or a human Oct 08 15:46:50 here's a simple explanation: http://www.portlandwerewolf.com/rules Oct 08 15:46:56 it's actually really easy Oct 08 15:47:04 A number of werewolves, who know who the other werewolves are Oct 08 15:47:09 And the rest of people are villagers Oct 08 15:47:12 because you have a moderator who tells you exactly what to do every step of the wy Oct 08 15:47:57 Every night, the werewolves decide to kill someone, the seer gets to find out about 1 participant, and every morning, when everyone wakes up, the villagers form a mob & decide to lynch someone Oct 08 15:48:15 And then they find out if the person they lynched was a werewolf or a human Oct 08 15:48:35 dneary: Is it a double feature? Oct 08 15:48:46 dneary: Werevolves + Angry Mobs? Oct 08 15:48:59 So the werewolves are always trying to cast suspicion on people other than themselves, trying to kill the seer (who has more information), the seer is trying to cast suspicion on the werewolves without revealing that she's a seer Oct 08 15:49:19 And the villagers are trying to work out who's playing them and is thus a werewold Oct 08 15:49:25 RST38h, Yup Oct 08 15:49:30 It sounds like fun Oct 08 15:49:45 DawnFoster, Does that summarise roughly the game? Oct 08 15:49:58 I'll need to get some more werewolf cards to bring with me - unless someone else has a couple of decks? Oct 08 15:50:08 dneary: I think that about covers it Oct 08 15:50:14 DawnFoster, I found a PDF today Oct 08 15:50:49 http://eblong.com/zarf/pic/werewolf-cards-novo-1.1.pdf Oct 08 15:51:29 A friend of mine has printed a bunch of decks - he was talking about making some more, so I'm going to check with him first Oct 08 15:51:54 ooh so the wolf game got here too Oct 08 15:51:59 man this is sick Oct 08 15:52:09 we have some other special roles to that we might break out - healer, little girl, etc. Oct 08 15:52:23 we play it on the irc channel Oct 08 15:52:28 its a nice game though Oct 08 15:52:44 RST38h, The game ends when all the werewolves are dead (humans win) or there are as many werewolves as humans left (werewolves gang up on humans & slaughter them) Oct 08 15:53:22 DawnFoster, What does the healer do? Is this the wolfsbane player I read about who decides who to protect every night? Oct 08 15:53:50 the healer decides who to protect Oct 08 15:54:35 We play that as Mafia in the South. Oct 08 15:54:55 Oof, there's some lag. Oct 08 15:55:52 yeah, it's just like mafia Oct 08 15:56:15 I might even print up some special meego conference decks that we can use. Hmmmm Oct 08 15:56:55 hehe Oct 08 15:57:02 I can see I've given you work... Oct 08 15:57:14 When do you think would be a good time? Oct 08 15:57:22 Sunday evening, maybe? Oct 08 15:57:30 wherewolves? what? Oct 08 15:57:33 * slaine shakes fist at NAT rules Oct 08 15:57:41 every evening? ;) Oct 08 15:58:30 Let's plan a formal game for Sunday evening & we can do some informal ones after the evening events on other days if people are interestes Oct 08 16:17:41 hi, have I selected the wrong repo or the 1.0.x unstable branch has no update sinse the 2nd of October? Oct 08 16:24:34 fale: what's the x number exactly? Oct 08 16:25:12 auke: 1.0.99 Oct 08 16:25:53 ok so Oct 08 16:26:09 the pre-1.1 branch is mostly frozen, so there will be very little updates to it Oct 08 16:26:16 where do your repo files point to? Oct 08 16:26:59 auke: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.4.20100928.1/netbook/repos/ia32/packages Oct 08 16:27:05 in general, the repo files for a numbered subversion point to that subversion only, and will not get you updates Oct 08 16:27:27 yup Oct 08 16:27:33 note the 1.0.90.4 in there? Oct 08 16:27:49 auke: the thing is that I still see a lot of bugs, and I though there would be work on them before freeze everything... Oct 08 16:28:01 they're being fixed Oct 08 16:28:15 except the fixes are in 1.0.99.0, 1.0.99.1 etc Oct 08 16:28:33 the image you have isn't meant to auto-update, it's a snapshot Oct 08 16:28:37 for testign Oct 08 16:28:40 auke: why I don't see anything more than 1.0.99.0-20101005 ? Oct 08 16:28:55 that was the latest pre-1.1 release Oct 08 16:29:18 today is 20100108, so only 3 days after 20101005 Oct 08 16:29:31 next release will be next week Oct 08 16:29:35 so I'm looking in the right folder ( http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0.99/ ) isn't it? Oct 08 16:30:19 depends on what you want Oct 08 16:30:33 auke: the closest thing possible to 1.1 ;) Oct 08 16:30:56 then sure, you can add the 1.0.99 repos to your system to get those updates Oct 08 16:31:38 auke: I think I gave you the wrong repo before, let me check Oct 08 16:32:20 auke: no, is the right one, but I thought I changed it -.- the right one is the /daily ? Oct 08 16:32:52 official update repos for 1.1 have not been posted yet Oct 08 16:33:06 /daily is not appropriate for 1.1 Oct 08 16:39:37 Someone tells me on twitter: RC3 posted 2 times at 1.1.99.2 and 1.1.99.3 Should there be RC4 and this is just typo? Oct 08 16:40:00 qgil: look what fits in a n810 sized tablet (3000) http://imgur.com/un2k6.jpg Oct 08 16:40:02 evening :) Oct 08 16:41:14 pupnik_: is this your new self-made anti-scratch filter ? Oct 08 16:41:58 auke: even the /daily of 1.0.99? Oct 08 16:43:14 fale: there's nothing posted there since 20101005 anyway Oct 08 16:43:30 auke: yeah, that's the thing :| Oct 08 16:43:49 it's a lot of battery. gotta love the BP-4L Oct 08 16:44:43 auke: so, I guess, I'll need to report all the bugs I'm seeing to see some of theme fixed Oct 08 16:45:15 fale: yup Oct 08 16:46:00 DawnFoster, Sounds good Oct 08 16:51:15 in which module am I supposed to post a bug about suspending issues? Oct 08 16:52:55 hi there Oct 08 16:53:37 I have a quick question about Meego Release Engineering Plans for 1.2 wiki page Oct 08 16:54:06 there is two Release Candidates listed at 1.1.99.2 and 1.1.99.3 Oct 08 16:54:15 I mean Release Candidates 3 Oct 08 16:54:37 http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 Oct 08 16:56:32 Is that just a typo and there should be a RC4 at 1.1.99.3? Oct 08 17:04:43 arcticrobot: looks like it Oct 08 17:08:05 auke, thanks Oct 08 17:17:43 * CosmoHill will be teaching his friend c++ and other stuff real soon Oct 08 17:18:00 wildc4rd: we're not doing moblin anymore, and that's official Oct 08 17:18:59 Whats the reasoning of not including Yum in the incremental builds ? Oct 08 17:19:10 kk, if I'm honest I've not done moblin for 6 months, but I'll try it again soon Oct 08 17:19:12 Hi everyone btw !!! Oct 08 17:19:59 MeeGoExperts: zypper is replacing yum Oct 08 17:20:11 Cool Oct 08 17:20:14 from Meego 1.1 zypper will be the only package manager Oct 08 17:21:03 please report issues with zypper to me or file a bugreport right away Oct 08 17:21:15 * CosmoHill makes a note Oct 08 17:21:15 that way we can make things smooth from 1.2 on Oct 08 17:21:35 oh cool. How do you make it do a "group install" Oct 08 17:21:40 ? Oct 08 17:21:47 why does yum and zypper give me a "illegal instruction" error on non-SSSE3 computers? Oct 08 17:21:59 it's optimized Oct 08 17:22:15 MeeGoExperts: zypper install -t pattern [group] Oct 08 17:22:16 zypper install -t pattern pattern-name Oct 08 17:22:23 run `zypper pt` to see patterns Oct 08 17:22:55 Thanks CosmoHill and auke Oct 08 17:22:59 you're welcome Oct 08 17:23:06 *makes quick note* Oct 08 17:23:16 infobot: patterns is a method to install groups with zypper. Use `zypper pt` to list patterns, use `zypper install -t pattern pattern-name` to install them. Oct 08 17:23:16 okay, auke Oct 08 17:23:20 ~patterns Oct 08 17:23:21 [patterns] a method to install groups with zypper. Use `zypper pt` to list patterns, use `zypper install -t pattern pattern-name` to install them. Oct 08 17:23:34 oo nice Oct 08 17:23:42 yep Oct 08 17:23:48 hey thiago_home Oct 08 17:24:03 auke: how do I find out all the information stored in the bot? Oct 08 17:24:21 infobot: zypper is the replacement for yum in MeeGo from 1.1 on. See ~patterns for info on how to install groups with zypper. Oct 08 17:24:22 auke: okay Oct 08 17:24:38 I think you can /q the bot and query it Oct 08 17:26:23 ~nickmeter auke Oct 08 17:26:24 auke is 100% lame with a cherry on top! Oct 08 17:26:35 * CosmoHill hides Oct 08 17:26:49 lol Oct 08 17:26:57 ~nickmeter cosmohill Oct 08 17:26:58 cosmohill is 100% lame with a cherry on top! Oct 08 17:27:08 * CosmoHill noms said cherry Oct 08 17:27:18 lol @ infobot Oct 08 17:28:21 ~nickmeter w00t_ Oct 08 17:28:22 w00t_ is 100% lame with a cherry on top! Oct 08 17:30:14 *using zypper for group install* :-) Oct 08 17:30:20 auke: So how many package managers doesmeego have now? Oct 08 17:30:36 technically 2: zypper and packagekit Oct 08 17:30:39 I think there are quite a few people still looking for yum to do this (like I was) Oct 08 17:30:56 auke: maybe you should put a small script in Oct 08 17:31:09 when someone runs' "yum" it goes "please use zypper instead" Oct 08 17:31:27 hrm Oct 08 17:31:43 On the development builds it just saus command not found Oct 08 17:31:56 auke: Why packagekit then? Oct 08 17:32:14 echo "#/bin/sh\nPlease use zypper instead." > /usr/bin/yum Oct 08 17:32:23 chmod +x /usr/bin/yum Oct 08 17:32:24 :) Oct 08 17:32:38 crap, I missed out echo in the echo Oct 08 17:33:08 MeeGoExperts: are you MeeGoExperts in Twitter too? Oct 08 17:33:31 Yes Oct 08 17:33:43 Tend to post everything related to MeeGo Oct 08 17:33:49 Or try. Oct 08 17:33:53 right Oct 08 17:33:59 are you one person (physically)? Oct 08 17:34:17 Mhm Oct 08 17:34:18 I was just wondering about the UK MeeGo Experts meetup, why isn't it a Local Meego Network? Oct 08 17:34:34 what meet up? Oct 08 17:34:40 Mainly at the moment. Ive had a few people come and go ..... Oct 08 17:35:36 that reminds me, my uni's had all week to email me about rooms Oct 08 17:35:54 The meetup started as a general tech meetup and now has become more termed as a Meego meetup (incorporating tech). I do need to set the entry on the Local Meego Network Oct 08 17:36:22 if you do set up one it would raise awareness Oct 08 17:36:27 If ANYONE is in the BIRMINGHAM UK area tomorrow and wants to come along, please do so :-) Oct 08 17:36:52 meego for brummies Oct 08 17:37:13 I have been trying a fair bit of tweeting for awareness and I hope I have to a certain extent. A lot of new comers do contact me daily :-) Oct 08 17:37:26 :-) @ CosmoHill Oct 08 17:37:31 you could make a post on the forum about it and put it on the wiki page Oct 08 17:37:39 I hope it goes better than MeeGo Cambridge Oct 08 17:38:10 I hope so too *Crosses fingers and toes* Oct 08 17:38:19 brb Oct 08 17:38:23 What happened at Meego Cambridge ? Oct 08 17:38:26 k Oct 08 17:38:26 gonna watch my mate his a bin with his car Oct 08 17:38:33 damn he missed Oct 08 17:40:08 I wouldn't have minded to attend the Cambridge one Oct 08 17:40:30 and it has 5 members on it too, so it could be official as well Oct 08 17:40:43 too bad I'm flying to Finland on Sunday Oct 08 17:43:07 I need to look at posting this … brb Oct 08 17:59:28 Can I somehow mount rootfs either through USB or just normally using http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Using_Rescue_Initrd ? Oct 08 17:59:52 because it really wouldn't be a 'rescue' kernel if it doesn't have that option :/ Oct 08 18:04:57 Thread created for a Local Meego Group : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=10838#post10838 Oct 08 18:05:06 All are welcome :-) Oct 08 18:05:27 Well, Local Birmingham UK Meego Oct 08 18:21:59 Event submitted :-) Oct 08 18:23:35 can anyone tell me exactly what cases the rescue initrd (http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Using_Rescue_Initrd) is intended for ? Oct 08 18:23:50 MeeGoExperts: and event approved and published :) Oct 08 18:26:53 BRILLIANT :-) Oct 08 18:30:01 hi i cant seem to find libgconf2-dev in the zypper repo Oct 08 18:30:24 devel packages are named 'devel' Oct 08 18:30:55 i was trying to build and the AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2 macro not found error crops up in autogen.sh Oct 08 18:31:19 try GConf-dbus-devel Oct 08 18:31:40 zypper source-install is your friend Oct 08 18:32:06 auke: what does it do? Oct 08 18:32:55 install required packages to build source code etc Oct 08 18:33:17 auke: will it work on git repo sources too? Oct 08 18:33:49 that does not compute Oct 08 18:34:00 good evening all Oct 08 18:34:01 what kind of source packages are you referring to? Oct 08 18:34:18 I'm not referring to source packages Oct 08 18:34:38 I'm considering buying the N900, but I'm hesitating a bit since I'm unable to find any on-date information considering if the Ovi services, including Music and Syncm do work with the phone? Oct 08 18:34:39 I'm referring to "required packages to build source code" Oct 08 18:34:40 well zypper source-install says it requires a source package name Oct 08 18:35:07 e.g. Does Ovi Calendar sync with the N900's Cal? Oct 08 18:35:08 erani: wrong channel to ask though Oct 08 18:35:35 oh, well :) indeed, but I wondered if any meego dev's or users happen to own maemo phone ^_^' Oct 08 18:35:38 e.g. if you want to recompile X, that would be the 'source package' that you need to install build dependencies on Oct 08 18:35:47 erani: I do own one Oct 08 18:35:56 erani: but I don't use Ovi Calendar Oct 08 18:35:57 there's a busy #maemo channel Oct 08 18:36:00 I think Oct 08 18:36:11 * thiago_home syncs only with Exchange Oct 08 18:36:31 auke: well im trying to build meego's source. that wont work with source-install i guess Oct 08 18:37:11 zypper won't help you with that anyway Oct 08 18:37:26 speaking of which i still havent been able to find the meego-panel repo. every meego-panel-xyz repo requires a "meego-panel" package. but no luck. :( Oct 08 18:37:50 auke: well gconf-dbus-devel did help with the macro problem. so thanks :) Oct 08 19:18:41 when trying to create a netbook liveusb image I'm getting this error: Error: Failed to run mic inside bootstrap environment. Return code: -4 Oct 08 19:19:01 does anybody know what I'm doing wrong or what I'm missing? Oct 08 19:19:51 hello! i'm gonna install meego and ubuntu (i know how to do) but i wanna reserve a partition to use between both OS... the question is... what kind of file system do i need to make it run on ubuntu? Oct 08 19:20:39 what filesystems does ubuntu read? Oct 08 19:21:41 they should support the same Oct 08 19:21:49 ubuntu might not support btrfs yet though Oct 08 19:21:53 thiago_home: ubuntu reads everything my problem is meego Oct 08 19:22:05 tmzt_: that was for you sorry Oct 08 19:22:12 I see Oct 08 19:22:17 esmirlin: if ubuntu reads everything, then how can meego be the problem? Oct 08 19:22:21 why is that an issue? Oct 08 19:22:23 just choose one that meego can read Oct 08 19:22:39 does meego support ext4? Oct 08 19:23:14 the installer won't let you choose something it doesn't support Oct 08 19:23:22 I just flashed n900 with sd card. n900 show lots of lines, but MeeGo does not show up... any clues? Oct 08 19:23:58 so it booted from sd but meego UI does not come alive... Oct 08 19:24:09 back-2-95: which image did you download? Oct 08 19:24:10 is the back cover on? Oct 08 19:24:22 yes, back cover is on Oct 08 19:24:29 ok so if i choose: sda1 for ubuntu, sda2 for meego (both ext3) and then another ext3 on sda3 for my files... how can i mount it on meego? Oct 08 19:24:54 esmirlin: with the mount command, or adding to /etc/fstab Oct 08 19:25:00 i have meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.0.20101005.1-mmcblk0p.raw Oct 08 19:25:32 back-2-95: I don't know then Oct 08 19:25:44 I also tried meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.0.20101001.1-mmcblk0p.raw Oct 08 19:25:51 thiago_home: but i don't want it mount permanently... i just wanna mount it whenever i want... i'm not an english speaker so i don't know if you understand me... let me know if don't please Oct 08 19:26:08 esmirlin: I understand you Oct 08 19:26:14 esmirlin: mount it whenever you want it Oct 08 19:26:16 oooki Oct 08 19:26:18 back-2-95: how did you dd it to the sd card? Oct 08 19:26:42 ok so ill format and install and then ill be back, see you guys! Oct 08 19:26:49 and thanks very much! Oct 08 19:27:46 sudo dd bs=4096 if= of=/dev/mysdcard Oct 08 19:27:56 mysdcard being? Oct 08 19:28:27 sudo dd bs=4096 if=/home/makorh/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.0.20101005.1-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/mmcblk0 Oct 08 19:28:30 ok, good Oct 08 19:28:37 was anything from /dev/mmcblk0 mounted before? Oct 08 19:28:42 ie, when you dd'ed Oct 08 19:28:43 no Oct 08 19:28:46 please check with 'mount' Oct 08 19:30:11 I also had another sd card with image which booted just fine in the morning... only difference is the pc where I am doing this from. Oct 08 19:30:35 ok Oct 08 19:30:53 both have ubuntu 10.04 32bit and everything else is the same... Oct 08 19:32:30 there was mention on pressing the "u" when flashing and the battery+cover thing. Is there some differences between these 2 methods? It seems that both do the trick of booting from sd... Oct 08 19:32:57 good evening, i'm trying to use opensuse smeegol version of meego and i have specific problem that result in this http://picpaste.com/pics/DSC_0005-Is2c2t2b.1286565877.jpg , my .xsession-errors can be found http://pastie.org/1208324 Oct 08 19:33:14 i can't resize it in any way Oct 08 19:58:34 anyone who has an interest in having their own OBS, having vmware or virtualbox installed and who aren't feeling bad about alpha level documentation? Oct 08 19:58:50 own OBS that can build meego packages, too Oct 08 20:14:54 BManojlovic: for smeegol issues, please ask the opensuse/smeegol people for help Oct 08 20:25:00 auke: do they have a channel? Oct 08 20:25:52 #smeego Oct 08 20:26:08 ignore that Oct 08 20:26:30 don't know Oct 08 20:27:49 infobot: smeegol is an opensuse-supported version of the MeeGo Netbook UX. For support for smeegol please go to #opensuse-moblin Oct 08 20:27:49 auke: okay Oct 08 20:29:20 infobot: what is 21 - 4? Oct 08 20:29:22 I think you lost me on that one, CosmoHill Oct 08 20:29:42 infobot: what is auke? Oct 08 20:29:44 I think you lost me on that one, CosmoHill Oct 08 20:32:30 Stskeeps: was that a question about who has local OBS repo? Oct 08 20:36:30 auke: smeegol is meego but ok will not bother people here don't worry... Oct 08 20:37:08 BManojlovic: Smeegol is the OpenSUSE implementation of Meego Oct 08 20:39:13 and there is no connection with meego except code behind it? Oct 08 20:39:54 I can't tell you as I've not read the Smeegol announcement Oct 08 20:40:15 since it's there implementation it's best to talk to them first Oct 08 20:40:27 they may send you back here for all we know Oct 08 20:40:45 yes they did :) Oct 08 20:40:49 ah Oct 08 20:40:52 in that case, hello :) Oct 08 20:41:05 hello :) Oct 08 20:43:41 hmm, if I understand this correctly Smeegol is basically OpenSUSE with the MeeGo UX on top Oct 08 20:43:50 plus some addition features Oct 08 20:45:51 * CosmoHill is downloading Smeegol Oct 08 20:48:39 correct Oct 08 20:49:22 BManojlovic: what graphics card do you have? Oct 08 20:50:49 atom ion platform (nvidia something 9400) Oct 08 20:51:01 9400 sounds about right Oct 08 20:51:06 binary driver installed Oct 08 20:51:09 have you installed any graphics cards Oct 08 20:51:11 ah yes Oct 08 20:51:13 *drivers Oct 08 20:51:22 I have good news and bad news Oct 08 20:51:35 bad first ;) Oct 08 20:51:37 the good news is that I have a C2D with Nvidia 9300 graphics Oct 08 20:51:48 the bad news is that it's 100 miles away with a friend Oct 08 20:51:49