**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 14 02:59:57 2010 Oct 14 03:20:26 do they sell the moorestone platform or give them out to developers? Oct 14 04:13:06 q Oct 14 06:15:22 *yawn* moin Oct 14 06:16:01 good morning, Myrtti. Oct 14 06:44:28 I am using openSUSE 11.3, is there a repository for meego devel tools (sdk, emulator, etc) ? Oct 14 07:01:46 bogdan: http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/ is the starting point Oct 14 07:02:37 bogdan: we have packages for openSUSE 11.3 but not much tested yet Oct 14 07:04:29 fabo: thanks, it seems that the wiki is still in construction, I'll wait for a while Oct 14 07:38:52 it is http://wiki.meego.com/SDK without the tailing / ... Oct 14 07:39:00 bogdan: --^ Oct 14 07:40:07 veli: ping? Oct 14 07:40:38 that would be somewhat relevant to your SDK activities http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8468 ? Oct 14 07:41:09 anyway many people have been asking automated testing support with fast feedback on development machine Oct 14 07:43:59 qoqr Oct 14 08:10:12 vilvo: we need to take that to 1.2 Oct 14 08:10:44 for what ever reason it now says 1.1 Oct 14 08:11:23 vilvo: and we need to get you in the SDK activities as agreed.. :) Oct 14 08:12:41 sure, I need to update that to 1.2 and let me know where I can help you :) Oct 14 08:13:16 I'll invite you soonish.. Now we are just trying to get the 1.1 out. Oct 14 08:13:47 sure, regarding that #8468 our team starts to work on that already Oct 14 08:53:51 Morning, all Oct 14 08:56:46 is about the best news i've read this year Oct 14 08:56:50 The PR 1.3 update is quite close now, and with that you can easily dual boot between Maemo and Meego on your N900. Oct 14 09:03:46 meh Oct 14 10:22:26 is anyone here a network engineer? able to finalise the detailed design of a resiliant (vlan trunks, link aggregation, virtual machines, dual-switch fabric, dual firewalls...) network design? Or does anyone know a volunteer? Oct 14 10:23:44 ideally to help put a design together ... otherwise to remind me of stuff I've forgotten and suggest modern kit Oct 14 13:29:46 . Oct 14 13:30:05 ! Oct 14 13:30:31 and yet my jabber is down... Oct 14 13:31:32 Aard: is pmo jabber up for you ? (and actually pmo irc too) Oct 14 13:32:00 yes to both Oct 14 13:32:59 are you onsite? Oct 14 13:33:21 no Oct 14 15:24:47 my ssd is dead and meego with him Oct 14 15:25:17 ssd, impossible! Oct 14 15:25:21 :) Oct 14 15:25:36 it is Oct 14 15:26:09 all my works from day one of meego out :( Oct 14 15:26:33 no problem, you can restore it from the backup again, right? Oct 14 15:26:49 no acces on bios Oct 14 15:26:56 can't boot on usb Oct 14 15:27:23 bummer Oct 14 15:28:08 ssd, pff i buy it for travell and now old hd are better Oct 14 15:28:27 impossible to change ssd :( Oct 14 15:28:53 I just tried Meego from USB flash disk last night.. love it very impressed Oct 14 15:29:09 My mobile broadband sadly does not work with it as it seems Oct 14 15:29:24 now the question is what is the best netbook now ? myne is 32 year old Oct 14 15:29:56 you've 32 years old netbook? Oct 14 15:30:16 How does one select "my zones" when I have an application like evolution mail open I cannot click My Zones as the window is in the way Oct 14 15:30:40 lol 3 year Oct 14 15:31:24 Paddy: move your mouse to the top of the screen Oct 14 15:31:25 it was a http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&expIds=17050,25657,26486,26488,26492,26494,26637,26993,27028&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=asus+s101&cp=7&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=14062901943508775648&ei=nyG3TMavOI_QjAffsLH2CQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQ8wIwAg# Oct 14 15:31:37 thiago_home: you gotta be kidding me Oct 14 15:31:43 X) Oct 14 15:31:45 doh! Oct 14 15:31:58 Paddy: see, no kidding :-) Oct 14 15:32:01 hehe Oct 14 15:32:20 Would be nice if all the apps tucked in to the meego UI though Oct 14 15:32:30 as in no more windows Oct 14 15:32:36 we don't want that Oct 14 15:32:40 oh? Oct 14 15:32:58 netbook screens are quite small, so apps need to be given the most possible Oct 14 15:33:06 so the meego interface is really more of a "Home page" Oct 14 15:33:32 thiago_home: yeah that is a good point my netbook is 1024x600 Oct 14 15:33:45 yep Oct 14 15:33:45 advise me for a new netbook Oct 14 15:34:08 niala_sad: Lenovo IdeaPad Oct 14 15:34:08 niala_sad: the acer aspire one series are very nice Oct 14 15:34:10 lovely keyboard Oct 14 15:34:25 or if you have the funds get a lenovo Oct 14 15:34:44 i have the funds Oct 14 15:35:04 niala_sad: lenovo and linux are really a match made in heaven Oct 14 15:35:12 i need a silent netbbok Oct 14 15:35:22 niala_sad: most are Oct 14 15:35:37 and nice keyborad i use it all day Oct 14 15:36:01 niala_sad: the lenovo keyboards on their laptops are great.. not sure about the netbooks Oct 14 15:36:14 as I said the acer aspire one keyboard is great to use Oct 14 15:36:25 lovely response of the keys Oct 14 15:36:41 thanks for your answers Oct 14 15:38:12 If I persevere I guess I could figure our how to get my mobile broadband detected Oct 14 15:38:19 *out Oct 14 15:39:09 ZTE MF112 USB dongle Oct 14 15:40:12 Is there a nice meego community wiki set up yet like the ubuntuwiki Oct 14 15:40:41 http://wiki.meego.com/Main_Page Oct 14 15:41:03 ah cool Oct 14 15:44:15 Atom Z520 is not very powerfull ? http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/15/asus-eee-pc-t91-review/ Oct 14 15:45:10 asus T91 meego compatible? Oct 14 15:45:14 Does Meego have a supported hardware page? Oct 14 15:45:35 nm Oct 14 15:45:53 I forgot that those searchy enginey things exist Oct 14 15:46:17 http://meego.com/devices/netbook/supported-hardware-platforms Oct 14 15:46:44 damn meego is pretty Oct 14 15:46:46 :) Oct 14 15:48:07 pfff i think all my qt app since 6 months, I'll never get rich Oct 14 15:51:15 niala_sad: It's a shame it does not list supported devices, kinda looking for somewhere to start with my mobile broadband issue Oct 14 15:51:30 seems its the only thing stopping me using meego full time Oct 14 15:52:45 niala_sad: buy an HP touchsmart tm2t Oct 14 15:52:58 Hey later guys cheers for the help Oct 14 15:53:29 niala_sad: I have tm2 - perfect hardware Oct 14 15:53:54 10" ? or bigger Oct 14 15:54:16 niala_sad: well, it's 12'1" in 12" body Oct 14 15:54:22 13" Oct 14 15:55:07 too big for me Oct 14 15:56:06 may be if i can see in real Oct 14 15:58:07 thiago: ping Oct 14 15:58:32 niala_sad: well, it's definitely larger than any netbook Oct 14 16:03:34 I must avoid the GMA500 Oct 14 16:10:20 I just hope the alternative to Smeegol is not MeeGollum ;) Oct 14 16:10:59 Can anyone tell me what the D4 hotel rate is? Oct 14 16:11:01 qgil: you win \o/ Oct 14 16:11:03 hey qgil Oct 14 16:11:12 fcrozat: ;) Oct 14 16:11:35 hi lardman - long time no "see" ! Oct 14 16:12:02 qgil: yeah, busy at work and you guys haven't released any new sw/hw ;) Oct 14 16:12:27 lardman: we are busy at work too - did you release your PhD or something? ;) Oct 14 16:12:55 lardman: https://cpregistrations.com/MeeGo2010/ going through this you should see rates way before confirming any booking Oct 14 16:12:58 long time back, just lots of projects on the go atm, also house selling and hunting Oct 14 16:13:15 (it's the firt link at the top of http://conference2010.meego.com Oct 14 16:13:58 qgil: I didn't want to stick my details in until I saw the prices, but will give it a go anyway Oct 14 16:14:53 wazd: How is the visa quest going? Oct 14 16:15:18 qgil: MeeGollum is an awesome name! Oct 14 16:15:41 qgil, if you run with MeeGollum, you have to add a startup sound of "my precious" and it will demand to be stroked and touched repeatedly! Oct 14 16:17:01 fiferboy: heya :) Well, better than expected :) Oct 14 16:17:13 wazd: Alright! Is it looking good? Oct 14 16:19:00 fiferboy: I have a long track of names invented for no good reason ;) Oct 14 16:19:38 qgil: You should be in marketing in charge of product naming! Oct 14 16:19:55 fiferboy: (that's precisely why) Oct 14 16:20:15 fiferboy: yeah :) Hopefully this time I'll be there :) Oct 14 16:20:19 fiferboy: you? :) Oct 14 16:20:32 not "in charge" Oct 14 16:23:14 wazd: Booked my flights last night :) Oct 14 16:23:26 * fcrozat is going to book his flight tonight or tomorrow Oct 14 16:23:40 fiferboy: woo! :) Oct 14 16:30:24 night chaps Oct 14 16:38:03 what is the best atom for netbook n450 ? Oct 14 16:38:14 n550 ? Oct 14 16:38:23 well, n550 is nice Oct 14 16:38:29 but n450 is good too Oct 14 16:38:49 * fcrozat has two n450 around him :) Oct 14 16:38:54 niala_sad: sort by power consumption descending and pick first :/ Oct 14 16:41:33 lol my s101 http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/07/asus-eee-pc-ultimate-s101-revealed-and-its-brown/ is broken i search a better netbook but i don't found Oct 14 16:42:22 is like no better netbook since 2 years Oct 14 16:42:55 N270 Oct 14 16:48:59 n550>n450>n270 ? Oct 14 16:49:21 the netbook is a lie :) Oct 14 16:49:29 hey intel guys ??? Oct 14 16:49:34 CULV-laptops ftw :) Oct 14 16:49:40 n900>n810>n800>n770>n550>n450>n270 Oct 14 16:49:56 * RST38h makes an attempt at satanic laughter Oct 14 16:55:24 RST38h: :) Oct 14 16:55:33 RST38h: I'm good at it, I can help :D Oct 14 16:56:00 n700 was not "n" though :) Oct 14 16:56:05 770* Oct 14 16:56:43 ah, it is insignificant :) Oct 14 17:00:29 * Stskeeps finds the current trademark discussion ironic considering http://en.opensuse.org/File:OpenSUSE_Trademark_Guidelines.pdf (check 'distribution' part) Oct 14 17:01:17 * NishanthMenon looks at http://www.smeagol.tcd.ie/Smeagol-licence.pdf :P Oct 14 17:01:47 hehe Oct 14 17:05:52 re trademark discussion: I tried to help and I'll go back to my core tasks Oct 14 17:05:59 Intel GMA 3150 compatible meeego ? Oct 14 17:07:09 qgil: i think it was a good post - we do need very visible compliance documents and trademark guidelines and situations like this should be less in the future Oct 14 17:08:58 * Stskeeps gets back to his hacking as well Oct 14 17:10:29 * felipec pauses his hacking to see the trademark discussion Oct 14 17:11:34 heh Oct 14 17:12:13 auke: so - we have this battery charging daemon on n900 and i was wondering if there's any other way than a init.d for something like this Oct 14 17:13:07 what would you want to do differently? Oct 14 17:13:19 auke: (we had a discussion about how to do things in a proper meego style fast boot way) Oct 14 17:14:08 Stskeeps: it largely depends on the startup requirements, restart requirements etc. Oct 14 17:14:27 Stskeeps: other than that, an init.d script seems appropriate until we get a different place Oct 14 17:14:30 :nod: Oct 14 17:14:39 I do need to write a watchdog for it Oct 14 17:15:06 if that is crucial, or the application is unstable, we might need to work something else out Oct 14 17:15:26 do we care how fast the application is started at boot? I suspect not Oct 14 17:15:27 DSME has a 'process watchdog' feature as well Oct 14 17:15:35 yes Oct 14 17:15:52 I need to look into that Oct 14 17:16:15 well, for battery management it matters as we have to be able to start charging quick enough for not shutting down again on low battery.. but some guidelines on how to deal with various daemons and things would be good Oct 14 17:16:46 can we read the battery status out from sysfs? Oct 14 17:17:09 i think we can check if it needs startup right now or not.. but i'm not sure Oct 14 17:17:17 that's the idea Oct 14 17:17:42 1 - boot, 2 - read battery status immediately, 3 - if (low!) charge immediately else defer charge Oct 14 17:17:55 :nod: Oct 14 17:18:24 we had it so low that turning on backlight could turn off the device :) Oct 14 17:18:35 but yeah.. it's a special case Oct 14 17:19:26 i should really make a proper writeup of what we do at init on n900 before discussing :) Oct 14 17:28:36 hello and sorry for disturbing good iddle like these but i was wondering is there clear step by step installation guide for n900 ? Oct 14 17:29:50 ~meego-n900 Oct 14 17:29:52 extra, extra, read all about it, meego-n900 is grab image from repo.meego.com (meego-handset-armv7l-n900) and follow http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 14 17:30:29 Stskeeps: we need to make sure not to make something n900-specific from the start Oct 14 17:30:44 that would make a mess Oct 14 17:30:51 samsunix: does that help? Oct 14 17:31:07 reading.... Oct 14 17:33:10 i had android installed before and I think i did something like that before ... prob is i cant make it boot from mmc Oct 14 17:34:32 this is a bit different :) Oct 14 17:34:35 yeah Oct 14 17:34:37 auke: and yeah Oct 14 17:34:44 android had autoinstaller ^_^ Oct 14 17:34:53 and it sucked Oct 14 17:34:58 samsunix: you learn more unix this way Oct 14 17:34:58 :P Oct 14 17:35:09 auke: as generic as possible.. second purpose to n900 is to be a 'teaching' platform to arm device porters Oct 14 17:35:20 dosnt have keyboard support, it didnt support my sim card or isp etc etc etc Oct 14 17:36:56 well, our calling stack is still in it's infancy - we don't have a UI for pin entry yet Oct 14 17:36:59 :P Oct 14 17:37:36 oh ok... Oct 14 17:37:48 Stskeeps: so no sim pin then? Oct 14 17:37:49 but let's see where 1.2 leads us Oct 14 17:38:02 lardman|home: if you have PIN enabled, it won't work Oct 14 17:38:04 i need second n900 for these :D Oct 14 17:38:07 ok Oct 14 17:38:27 good to know Oct 14 17:41:00 hello everyone! i have a problem with meego on the n900. i downloaded this image: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.1.20101012.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ put it on my MMC and tried to boot it the way it's described in the wiki ( http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC ). but the N900 only shows loads of msg like forever. i can't read them bc it's too dark and nothing happens. do you have any idea what Oct 14 17:42:34 danley: you can do a trick, take out usb cable of n900 - start flasher on pc, hold down power button to the LED lights up and then plug in cable Oct 14 17:42:38 backlight should be ok then Oct 14 17:43:07 and you can tell me what error is showing up :) Oct 14 17:45:17 I tried few days ago install that 1.1.80.1 image and got a lot of "no such file" error messages. Then I installed 1.1.80.0 image and it worked Oct 14 17:46:48 danley: 1.1.80 is basically the new 1.2 development track, so at any given day it could blow up :) Oct 14 17:47:00 danley: you'll want to look for 1.0.99 if it's just for a look Oct 14 17:47:00 Stskeeps, josu: yes there are loads of "no such file [...] failed to connect to socket" messages Oct 14 17:47:04 danley: ah Oct 14 17:47:15 get 1.0.99 then, i think that image was sour Oct 14 17:48:37 so http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0.99/1.0.99.1.20101012.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ that one is the one to get? Oct 14 17:48:48 right Oct 14 17:49:03 ok. thank you for now. i'll try that :) Oct 14 17:49:24 np Oct 14 17:49:25 Stskeeps: this is the one with working BME, pulse, etc? Oct 14 17:49:41 lardman|home: yes, we don't have any behind-eula images anymore Oct 14 17:49:49 cool Oct 14 17:49:57 time to try my new 8Gb card then Oct 14 17:51:04 and afaiu u-boot is coming with PR1.3? Oct 14 17:51:12 DawnFoster: ping Oct 14 17:51:50 thiago_home: Are you ok with being the facilitator for lightning talks at the conference?? Oct 14 17:51:55 DawnFoster: yes Oct 14 17:52:03 DawnFoster: I'm behind in emails due to Qt Developer Days Oct 14 17:52:11 is there a downloadable version with hardware acceleration for graphics? Oct 14 17:52:25 cool - this also means gathering presentations onto one laptop - do you have a preferred format? Oct 14 17:52:28 danley: that's what you're getting Oct 14 17:52:35 Stskeeps: NICE :) Oct 14 17:52:41 DawnFoster: PDF Oct 14 17:52:42 thx Oct 14 17:52:49 15 min to go^^ Oct 14 17:52:56 DawnFoster: ODP only if people use standard fonts and don't blame me for broken layouts :-) Oct 14 17:52:57 danley: however, it's not the newest drivers so it could be faster and better performing Oct 14 17:53:07 thiago: cool - do you want people to email them to you or upload them to the wiki? Oct 14 17:53:20 (last question, I promise) :) Oct 14 17:53:29 i just want to see what it's like and stuff. i know it's not finished yet Oct 14 17:53:50 I'm 21 and I'm listening to BBC Radio 4, how worried should I be? Oct 14 17:54:05 CosmoHill: i think there's other things to be worried about Oct 14 17:54:18 like n900 charging? Oct 14 17:54:19 is there scandinavian keyboard support by the way? Oct 14 17:54:24 Cosmo: Is the radio translating subliminal messages? Oct 14 17:54:59 DawnFoster: send to me Oct 14 17:55:10 samsunix: if you hack .desktop file i gus Oct 14 17:55:11 guess Oct 14 17:55:17 thiago_home: perfect, thanks! Oct 14 17:55:20 DawnFoster: no later than Nov. 13 Oct 14 17:55:25 oo dad is home with his new camera Oct 14 17:55:30 CosmoHill: i started liking classical music at ~22, hated it before that :P Oct 14 17:55:32 DawnFoster: we'll put them on the website after the presentations :-) Oct 14 17:55:35 opinions change :) Oct 14 17:55:44 thiago_home: I'm giving them Nov 10 as a deadline Oct 14 17:55:44 DawnFoster: ah, ask if people are ok with the slides being published Oct 14 17:55:54 whats goign on guys? 15min till what exactly? good news? Oct 14 17:56:03 thiago_home: let's just make that a requirement Oct 14 17:56:04 stskeeps it works like a normal linux os then? Oct 14 17:56:14 samsunix: it has bash and xorg.. Oct 14 17:56:19 DawnFoster: ok, but I don't have a problem with it not being so Oct 14 17:56:19 PhoenixBh: danley's downloading a meego n900 image Oct 14 17:56:26 i take that as "yes" ;) Oct 14 17:56:41 ahh, i got the 1.0.99 one, im assumign thats the latest one Oct 14 17:56:49 yeah, on 1.1 track Oct 14 17:56:52 have enyone tryed install wine? Oct 14 17:56:55 what eventually becomes the release Oct 14 17:57:00 DawnFoster: in other news, Dev Days was great and both Dirk and Rusty should be on their way back to Portland :-) Oct 14 17:57:06 damn portable radio that I found and turned on last week Oct 14 17:57:13 thiago_home: I've returned safely :) Oct 14 17:57:17 whats the dif between the 1.1.80 and the 1.0.99? Oct 14 17:57:24 PhoenixBh: sec Oct 14 17:57:26 although I was very confused this morning, I forgot to set my alarm and thought it was a weekend Oct 14 17:57:38 PhoenixBh: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 , http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 Oct 14 17:57:53 Robot101: i just wished it was weekend when waking up Oct 14 17:57:53 :P Oct 14 17:58:23 i see :), i tried the 1.1.80 but it got stuck after boot.. with blank screen :) Oct 14 17:58:37 PhoenixBh: yes, it's about as pre alpha as it gets :) Oct 14 17:58:49 thiago_home: which email address should people send them too? Oct 14 17:59:01 invasive changes period, always the fun part of meego development Oct 14 17:59:06 thiago_home: happy to hear that dev days went well! Oct 14 17:59:20 i figured :), is the version with the 3G call support out yet? Oct 14 17:59:32 DawnFoster: thiago.macieira@nokia.com is ok Oct 14 17:59:37 PhoenixBh: 1.0.99 has it Oct 14 17:59:45 Robot101: oh, hey, there you are :-) Oct 14 17:59:56 ohhh, anything to enable it? Oct 14 18:00:10 PhoenixBh: don't have a SIM card with a PIN and not run into the hordes of bugs :) Oct 14 18:00:23 DawnFoster: another thing, Dirk and I were talking about people not registering for the hotel Oct 14 18:00:32 hum pin is disabled but dotn think it was working.... ket me try that again.. Oct 14 18:00:35 let* Oct 14 18:00:55 DawnFoster: I suggested (and he seemed to agree) that we should just mail all who say they are going that the deadline is next Friday, or we lose our blocking and rate Oct 14 18:01:17 bah i wish there was a easy way to multi boot :( Oct 14 18:01:32 thiago_home: how's this look - http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Lightning_talks Oct 14 18:01:39 PhoenixBh: working on it.. Oct 14 18:01:55 yh i read pr1.3 will support it :) Oct 14 18:01:59 thiago_home: I think we're doing that - i'll check with amy Oct 14 18:02:03 hey dazo Oct 14 18:03:10 DawnFoster: page looks perfect, thanks Oct 14 18:03:33 DawnFoster: do you eat chocolate? Oct 14 18:04:04 flashed kernel Oct 14 18:04:10 and its booting Oct 14 18:04:25 * thiago_home would like to bring DawnFoster some chocolate for helping so much, but doesn't want to give a gift she won't like Oct 14 18:06:08 so will try makign nromal call Oct 14 18:06:34 does the network sign show anything BTW? or is it not implemented Oct 14 18:07:26 thiago_home: I'm picky - I don't eat dairy, but I love the really dark chocolate as long is it doesn't have any milk :) Oct 14 18:07:39 thiago_home: thanks! Oct 14 18:08:46 DawnFoster: ok, I'll try to find something without milk. Will be hard. Oct 14 18:08:54 ahah ok so it does work... execpt it wont hang up haha, are messages working? Oct 14 18:09:02 DawnFoster: the one I like the most is Melkesjokolade, which simply translates as "milk chocolate" Oct 14 18:12:11 thiago_home: can it be bought in Finland ? :) Oct 14 18:14:14 djszapi: Melkesjokolade? I don't think so Oct 14 18:14:42 the closest I find it to Finland is the duty-free shop in the Oslo airport Oct 14 18:14:59 thiago_home: There's quite a selection of dairy free chocolate in British supermarkets now. Jaffa Jr. is allergic to milk and egg, so we spot these things :) Oct 14 18:16:43 can anyone tell me when the final UI is ment to be implemented? :) Oct 14 18:17:01 most of the good dark chocolate doesn't have any milk Oct 14 18:17:37 DawnFoster: good hint Oct 14 18:21:41 thiago_home: http://www.dammenberg.fi/shop/ ;-) Oct 14 18:22:19 Myrtti: I won't be going to Finland before Portland Oct 14 18:22:28 aw. Oct 14 18:23:37 Portland ? Oct 14 18:24:01 Myrtti: haha I will get one :> Oct 14 18:25:08 djszapi: I'm coming to Portland at the end of the month Oct 14 18:25:53 k, have fun :) Oct 14 18:26:39 what is the opinion here about PackageKit on Meego ? Oct 14 18:28:41 djszapi: what about packagekit? Oct 14 18:29:38 what is the feedback, negative, positive ? Oct 14 18:51:45 hello, I've dded the latest MeeGo image for the n900 and I'm trying to boot using flasher. While MeeGo is booting, it shows many, many of "Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket". It then gives me a blank screen forever with ocassional speaker bursts (?) Oct 14 18:51:56 1.1.80? Oct 14 18:52:00 yeah Oct 14 18:52:12 known bug, please use 1.0.99 and skip the release you're trying :) Oct 14 18:52:30 1.1.80 is the 1.2 release track and it was hit by a nasty bg Oct 14 18:52:33 bug Oct 14 18:52:58 and skip = or skip (and wait for next) Oct 14 18:53:11 heh thanks. But does 1.0.99 have the UX ? Oct 14 19:16:27 I need some help Oct 14 19:16:42 I downloaded http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.1.20101012.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.1.20101012.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 for my n900 Oct 14 19:17:06 1.1.80 is the 1.2 release track and it was hit by a nasty bg Oct 14 19:17:17 Then I fallowed steps for windows on these page: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 14 19:17:42 known bug, please use 1.0.99 and skip the release you're trying :) Oct 14 19:17:45 now what ? Oct 14 19:17:51 oh ok Oct 14 19:18:10 so when i hit "write" on disk imager and it's done.... what then? Oct 14 19:20:27 pfft, who cares about connman? Oct 14 19:24:35 Stskeeps: whats the boot issue with n900 in trunk? Oct 14 19:24:50 felipec: ??? Oct 14 19:25:06 auke: I'm reading the trademark thread Oct 14 20:55:49 morning can meego be used on an iphone? Oct 14 20:56:35 no Oct 14 20:56:45 ok Oct 14 20:57:19 why not? Oct 14 20:57:28 iPhone is a closed platform Oct 14 20:57:50 even if it is jail broken? Oct 14 20:57:56 correct Oct 14 20:57:57 you can run linux on iphon Oct 14 20:57:59 you can run linux on iphone Oct 14 20:58:04 ok Oct 14 20:58:21 can you run windows on iphone? Oct 14 20:58:27 yes Oct 14 20:58:47 you can run it in a virtual machine in linux cant you? so sure you should be able to. Oct 14 20:58:49 I can run on an iphone Oct 14 20:59:02 why would you want to though/ Oct 14 20:59:04 it's slippery though :) Oct 14 20:59:30 lol Oct 14 20:59:32 iPhones make lousy hockey pucks, not round enough Oct 14 20:59:42 why not? Oct 14 20:59:48 bah i had one..... Oct 14 21:00:06 hit it with a hammer once i got the n900 Oct 14 21:00:08 :) Oct 14 21:00:17 that felt good :) Oct 14 21:00:19 DOES meego work on amd? Oct 14 21:00:31 no, not currently Oct 14 21:00:34 ok Oct 14 21:00:46 thanks! Oct 14 21:00:47 chao! Oct 14 21:00:51 cyas Oct 14 21:00:56 Since this was brought up, is there a particular place I can look for the status of ports? I have an android phone and would love to see it on it Oct 14 21:01:04 it being meego Oct 14 21:01:14 Xavierdarkness: here would be best Oct 14 21:01:18 or #meego-arm Oct 14 21:01:55 K cool Oct 14 21:09:49 so I got qemu-gl running but trying to add emulator device configuration in qt creator complains about device not having Qt 4.6.2+ installed when I try "test" Oct 14 21:11:08 do I need find newer image than handset one from july? Oct 14 21:22:46 jarkkom: july seems very old, I would suggest getting a newer image, yes Oct 14 21:22:52 * CosmoHill reads the guardian Oct 14 21:48:36 auke or anybody: can you recommend a nice netbook fully compatible with MeeGo that I could find easily in BestBuy or similar? I need to buy one asap (today) Oct 14 21:53:09 qgil: actually a touch choice atm Oct 14 21:53:41 qgil: toshiba has working wireless, but seems to have an irq issue, display backlight isn't changeable, bluetooth nonfunctional Oct 14 21:53:57 qgil: lenovo s10 works, except wireless (sigh), really well Oct 14 21:54:16 hp has the wireless issue too Oct 14 21:54:44 what about asus? Oct 14 21:54:50 I haven't tried any of the newer asus models Oct 14 21:55:30 the 1005HA is on the list of supported models, best buy sells a 1005HAB Oct 14 21:56:56 seems to work fine according to the forums http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=6018&postcount=16 Oct 14 21:58:45 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_1005HA#lspci Oct 14 21:59:00 10005HA indeed seems to have a supported wireless chipset afaics Oct 14 21:59:10 qgil: so, asus seems to be the safest choice Oct 14 22:00:00 qgil: didn't you buy one a few months back? Oct 14 22:00:21 I see reports that the 1015 has broadcom Oct 14 22:00:31 so definately don't get that if wifi needs to work Oct 14 22:01:43 felipec: good that you put the "Brand dilution" wikipedia link at the end of your post because otherwise I would have sent it to you :) Oct 14 22:02:01 felipec: other than that I have said everything I wanted to say about the trademark stuff Oct 14 22:02:02 qgil: trademark != brand Oct 14 22:02:23