**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 23 02:59:57 2010 Oct 23 03:22:39 gddfffffffffff test Oct 23 03:23:21 ? Oct 23 03:23:56 keyboard touchscreen test Oct 23 03:28:21 :) Oct 23 04:54:39 I have installed feew packages of Xorg and created a meego image ..now I m cross compiling Qt on my host machine for arm (meego image) ..I am getting error Oct 23 04:54:43 Basic XLib functionality test failed! Oct 23 04:54:45 You might need to modify the include and library search paths by editing Oct 23 04:54:47 QMAKE_INCDIR_X11 and QMAKE_LIBDIR_X11 in /home/umang/qtarmsrc/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.7.0/mkspecs/qws/linux-arm-gnueabi-g++. Oct 23 04:55:19 so do I need to include any X11 specific package in ks fille for this test to succeded Oct 23 08:14:05 araujo: am now... Oct 23 08:15:58 morn lbt Oct 23 08:16:10 good morning Carsten :) Oct 23 08:28:58 hi lbt Oct 23 08:29:16 lbt, well, basically I wanted to know about BOSS :) Oct 23 08:29:53 cool Oct 23 08:29:57 in what context? Oct 23 08:30:15 in the wiki I just found a brief description, but I wonder if there is some tutorial or doc explaining in more details about it Oct 23 08:32:02 so have you seen http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Design Oct 23 08:32:24 is there an EMPLOYEE infrastructure too? Oct 23 08:32:26 and all the various links off there (and yes I need to get the wiki docs tidied up) Oct 23 08:32:40 thiago: heh... no need Oct 23 08:32:48 we have robogrator Oct 23 08:32:56 the robotic integrator Oct 23 08:33:04 "all your commit belong to us" Oct 23 08:35:30 lbt, ooh, I see it now, thanks :) Oct 23 08:36:04 araujo: especially follow the "There is an overview of Ruote which explains how it works. " link Oct 23 08:36:28 and having read stuff please come back to me Oct 23 08:36:40 I want to install x11-dev on meego ..what pkg name shud I give to my KS file using mic ?? Oct 23 08:36:57 araujo: we're working to prepare templates and such Oct 23 08:37:05 lbt, yeah, I noticed that one, pretty much what i was looking for!, Thanks! Oct 23 08:37:08 lbt, I will :) Oct 23 08:37:13 and the main code is just a "zypper in" Oct 23 08:38:41 araujo: This is a real process definition : http://pastie.org/1213979 each 'action' is a distributed call to a remote 'script' to do something (like update bugzilla) Oct 23 08:43:57 lbt, nice, this would be like a process through the Meego OBS ??, a Ruote process.. Oct 23 08:44:46 yes Oct 23 08:49:11 I see :) Oct 23 08:50:45 bear in mind that many uses of ruote are about things like handling purchase orders Oct 23 08:51:12 in general araujo it's about integrating OBS into your organisation's working practices Oct 23 08:51:28 speaking of which... who are you ;) (if you don't mind me asking) Oct 23 14:57:26 hi all Oct 23 14:57:32 hi, somebody know wich kernel will be used in next update? Oct 23 14:58:18 i have problems with meego. It does not start-up, so I want to recover the files. But the filesystem is btrfs. I can not mount the drive. Can anybody help me with this. Oct 23 14:59:48 400 people and nobody can help me? Oct 23 15:00:07 why does not it boot ? Oct 23 15:00:21 hi ferrory, is your harddisk broken? in fact more people in weeks than the we Oct 23 15:00:43 hi djszapi Oct 23 15:00:48 If i know. But propably corrupt filesystem. It is flash. I can mount /dev/sda1 but /dev/sda2 is unknown. Oct 23 15:01:00 i don't know Oct 23 15:01:31 can you boot on a live system and then mount the 'corrupted' ? Oct 23 15:01:41 :/dev/sda3 is btrfs, /dev/sda4 does not exists. and /dev/sda5 is swap Oct 23 15:02:06 I only can mount /dev/sda1. Oct 23 15:02:09 see other info Oct 23 15:03:21 mounting of the btrfs filesystem causes linux to crash or it takes for ever. Oct 23 15:03:31 so maybe I use the wrong commands... Oct 23 15:03:59 fsck.btrfs /dev/sdX Oct 23 15:04:06 hi niala :) Oct 23 15:05:22 niala: that's only checking, not fixing Oct 23 15:05:51 not true Oct 23 15:07:16 grep for repair in its help output Oct 23 15:07:33 command is not found. Which operation system can I use for it. I am now using SystemRescue-Cd 1.6.2 Oct 23 15:09:34 are you on meego? what is sysRescue.... ? Oct 23 15:09:52 live cd with filesystem tools Oct 23 15:10:05 djszapi: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org <- it's right there on the intro Oct 23 15:13:01 felipec: ahh yes, really I was so comfortable the existing tools can do that :) Oct 23 15:13:04 sorry, my mistake. Oct 23 15:13:39 ferrory: cannot you reboot a system on sdcard ? Oct 23 15:14:11 how do you mean? I boot it from a live usb Oct 23 15:14:17 what do you mean? Oct 23 15:14:19 felipec: btw, checking is also more than nothing :) Oct 23 15:14:22 sorry for my english Oct 23 15:15:04 did it work from usb earlier ? Oct 23 15:15:16 and what about 'btrfsck' that does nothing ? wiki disturbed me Oct 23 15:15:56 i did not try that command... I am loading meego on the usb stick. Oct 23 15:16:45 I would give it a try, if you really suspect filesystem of doing that. Oct 23 15:17:23 djszapi: yes, but if it works, that would only tell ferrory that indeed his fs is screwed Oct 23 15:18:06 still better than nothing :) Oct 23 15:18:15 ferrory: you can try btrfsck on your PC Oct 23 15:18:53 yeah gone try now Oct 23 15:20:11 btrfsck btrfs-convert btrfsctl btrfs-debug-tree btrfs-show btrfs-vol Oct 23 15:22:26 command completed Oct 23 15:22:33 which info do you guys want? Oct 23 15:23:11 and on live you can mount your partition ? Oct 23 15:23:35 which cmmands do I need to use? Oct 23 15:23:36 * niala do not save his ssd hard disk last week Oct 23 15:23:53 mount /dev/xxx /mnt Oct 23 15:24:24 started and how long should it take? Oct 23 15:24:36 replace xx with your harddisk of course . sdb3 I suppose Oct 23 15:24:38 depends on the /dev/xxx Oct 23 15:24:42 lawl :) Oct 23 15:24:52 yeah yeah. I know that part ;) Oct 23 15:24:57 ferrory: fdisk -l Oct 23 15:25:06 and you can see there what you might want to mount :P Oct 23 15:25:14 mount is running now Oct 23 15:26:07 ls /mnt Oct 23 15:26:25 bonjour niala Oct 23 15:26:28 comment ça va? Oct 23 15:26:29 yeah I know but mount is stull running Oct 23 15:26:49 hey what a terrible accent CosmoHill. have a nice day Oct 23 15:26:56 :o Oct 23 15:27:50 still mounting? Oct 23 15:27:56 ? = ! Oct 23 15:28:39 when a HD run and never stop often is broken Oct 23 15:29:02 it is a ssd. Oct 23 15:29:17 or flash. Because it is a cheap acer one Oct 23 15:30:21 mmmm well my ssd to last week is a curse Oct 23 15:30:59 he live 1,5 years Oct 23 15:31:18 The problems occur a month a go after my sister came back from Africa. All her pictures movies are on it. Oct 23 15:33:05 Iis there not another way to recover data? Oct 23 15:33:52 I failed Oct 23 15:35:46 ??? Oct 23 15:36:28 I failed to restore my ssd I haven't any solution Oct 23 15:36:54 CosmoHill: how is the weather today? Oct 23 15:39:45 it's very nice Oct 23 15:40:04 from my room I can see what looks like a ring of cloud far away Oct 23 15:41:22 nice, here to Oct 23 15:41:56 I figured out that Le Mans is closer to me than Glasgow :o Oct 23 15:43:23 Le Mans? why Le Mans? Oct 23 15:43:31 I have family there Oct 23 15:43:56 out of those to most people would have picked on Glasow Oct 23 15:44:23 cool nice to have family in other country for holliday, but Le Mans not very sexy ;) Oct 23 15:44:48 well they do live on a farm Oct 23 15:46:31 and a horribily internet conexion lol Oct 23 15:47:14 btrfsctl -S new_subvol_name /mnt/btrfs What is new_subvol_name I don't see that anywhere. I just used btrfs-show and Label: none Oct 23 15:53:57 * CosmoHill dances cos Reading scored :) Oct 23 15:55:54 CosmoHill: vs ? Oct 23 15:56:23 Burnley, they're one above us in the table Oct 23 15:59:54 so it's important! lol Oct 23 16:00:03 lo jebba Oct 23 16:02:32 niala: sweet, 4 - 0 now :D Oct 23 16:03:06 heya Oct 23 16:05:04 is 2.6.35-rc1 > 2.6.35.3-9.4 ? Oct 23 16:06:21 no Oct 23 16:06:22 a couple quick questions, if you happen to know them off the top of your head: using the OBS appliance with kvm do you *have* to set up a tap network? I dont quite see why this would be necessary, but booting it up it complains about dhcp even though it has an address. Also, when obs is cross compiling, it is using a "real" gcc cross-compiler and such, it doesn't need qemu for anything right? In other words, is qemu needed for any of the *building* of rpms? Oct 23 16:06:44 2.6.35-rc1 is the release candidate for 2.6.35.0 Oct 23 16:06:50 jebba: qemu is used for any arm binaries (qemu-arm, not qemu-system-arm) Oct 23 16:07:04 jebba: for the cross compilation and bash, x86 stuff is used for speed Oct 23 16:07:28 Stskeeps: but when are the arm binaries needed/run? During build? Oct 23 16:07:33 jebba: yeah Oct 23 16:07:39 jebba: most apps don't cross compile nicely Oct 23 16:07:59 ah ok, that's what i figured. Almost better to natively compile when available then, no? Oct 23 16:08:19 nah, cross compilation + emulated arm binaries is far superior to native arm compilation Oct 23 16:09:02 in compilation time Oct 23 16:09:49 due to speed of x86 processors, and relative slowness of arm makes it better, ya. But if there were reasonable speed arm servers, it would likely be better to natively compile (hypothetically). Anyway, i get the bigger picture of how obs manage it then, thx. :) Oct 23 16:10:15 * Stskeeps is having a nice afternoon trying to generate a hardfp glibc.. Oct 23 16:10:19 talk about a hard lesson.. Oct 23 16:10:32 Also, about the TAP interface. Is that needed for the appliance if run under kvm? Oct 23 16:10:41 no idea, but i guess the TAP is for virtual network Oct 23 16:11:27 ya, kvm can do lots of different virtual network methods. The "standard" one appears to barf with the obs appliance though. Oct 23 16:11:55 i haven't tried to make any workers yet, so :/ just one inside the appliance Oct 23 16:12:09 I have a "regular" build box with no VT extensions and a faster box with VT, so i'm trying to figure out where to put this thing and whether to do it under kvm etc... Oct 23 16:13:00 so (in theory again), you could have one central x86 OBS appliance server and a bunch of n900s doing the "worker" part natively? Oct 23 16:13:30 someone did that using some arm boards, yeah Oct 23 16:14:33 ok, cool, thanks for answering my Qs, I know where i'll put it now :) Oct 23 16:24:02 hi Oct 23 16:24:08 vgrade: there is a new emgd release Oct 23 16:24:58 * jebba starting with obs-server.x86_64-2.1.0-Build2.4.raw.bz2 Oct 23 16:34:55 vlj: url? Oct 23 16:35:34 http://edc.intel.com/Software/Downloads/EMGD/#download Oct 23 16:35:40 1/5 release, 6 october Oct 23 16:36:01 ah Oct 23 16:36:31 well new because I did not see it before ;) Oct 23 16:51:25 is there a symbian simulator in qt 4.7 ? Oct 23 16:51:59 there is a nokia qt sdk but it is up to qt 4.6.2 ... Oct 23 16:52:59 the sdk with 4.7 will come soon Oct 23 16:53:08 you can take the 1.0 SDK and simply build 4.7 in it Oct 23 16:53:25 err..."simply build" ? Oct 23 16:53:47 yep Oct 23 16:53:49 rebuild Qt Oct 23 16:53:54 * thiago is doing that right now btw Oct 23 16:53:56 4.7.2 Oct 23 16:54:03 4.7.2 ? ;) Oct 23 16:54:08 yes Oct 23 16:54:17 there is a 4.7.2 release ? Oct 23 16:54:24 no Oct 23 16:54:30 4.7.1 ? Oct 23 16:54:33 Tuesday Oct 23 16:54:39 so what's in 4.7 right now will be 4.7.2 Oct 23 16:54:45 ok Oct 23 16:54:53 but there is no 4.7.1 ? Oct 23 16:54:56 Tuesday Oct 23 16:55:00 ok Oct 23 16:55:06 and 4.7.2 ? Oct 23 16:55:12 before the end of the year Oct 23 16:55:13 I'm lost with all theses qt versions Oct 23 16:55:14 ok Oct 23 16:55:42 * thiago thought that the monotonic progression was easy to follow Oct 23 16:56:04 well there is several QT version proposed on qt download page Oct 23 16:56:11 4.7, 4.6.3 for maemo Oct 23 16:56:12 it's not like we're numbering III, IV, V, 3, 4, 5.2, 2, 8, 9, 10 Oct 23 16:56:27 and now there is a qt 4.7.1 :p Oct 23 16:56:53 4.7 for maemo 5 will also happen soon Oct 23 16:56:58 ok Oct 23 16:58:01 with PR 1.3 Oct 23 16:59:20 and 4.7.2 for symbian ^3 will be updated by firmware or it should always be installed manually ? Oct 23 17:01:32 that I don't know Oct 23 17:02:02 ok Oct 23 17:44:52 humdidum Oct 23 17:45:09 gday! Oct 23 17:45:12 Myrtti: ? Oct 23 17:45:41 I just proclaimed my Nexus One beyond my skills, not even fastboot works on it... time to take it to professionals Oct 23 17:45:57 more cider! Oct 23 18:38:30 lbt, hi there, sorry, I went away yesterday night :) Oct 23 19:04:41 hello Oct 23 19:04:53 ohai Oct 23 19:05:02 j #qt Oct 23 19:05:52 install meego on N8 is possible ? Oct 23 19:08:47 I've not heard of anyone succeeding in it Oct 23 19:09:38 not that I've heard anyone trying either Oct 23 19:11:04 thanks Oct 23 19:11:22 how complete is meego for handset. When can we see the first phone on meego ? Oct 23 19:11:46 N9 in decembre Oct 23 19:11:47 your guess is as good as anyones Oct 23 19:11:52 How many apps are ready for meego handset ? Oct 23 19:12:12 silemme: can you give me a source for that? Oct 23 19:12:39 silemme, that will be 2011 actually ... Oct 23 19:12:57 http://meegoexperts.com/2010/10/stephen-elop-nokias-meego-device-will-2011-event/ Oct 23 19:14:02 http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/nokias-qwerty-slidin-n9-shows-up-in-the-wilds-of-china/ Oct 23 19:15:37 silemme: and in where in that article does it say that Nokia representative has confirmed that the device will be published in December? Oct 23 19:16:33 Forget the device. The device is overrated anyway. Oct 23 19:17:04 You want the device, get one of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Fat_man.jpg Oct 23 19:17:05 I like that when you log in as "root" on smeegol they go "have fun" Oct 23 19:17:39 I will be officially joining the MeeGo team next month. I look forward to meeting and working with all of you. Starting new job by attending MeeGoCon in Dublin . . . Oct 23 19:18:21 welcome Alison_Chaiken :) Oct 23 19:18:53 what area are you working in? Oct 23 19:18:57 * ljp wonders why anyone would want to put meego on n8 Oct 23 19:19:39 How many apps are ready for meego handset ? Oct 23 19:20:42 lbt, I will be "Senior Solutions Manager" here in California, working to create demos and reference designs to showcase device interoperability using meego. Oct 23 19:21:02 nice... Oct 23 19:21:04 Alison_Chaiken: welcomne Oct 23 19:21:23 Alison_Chaiken: in that case I hope your playground will be the community OBS :) Oct 23 19:22:46 install meego on N8 is possible ? Oct 23 19:23:29 silemme: as far as I know that's not possible... certainly no-one here has mentioned it Oct 23 19:25:12 lbt, Obstructive Bowel Syndrome? Oct 23 19:26:25 silemme, N8 is arm11 and it looks like there's an arm11 port. I'm more tempted to try to put MeeGo on Chumby . . . Oct 23 19:26:52 http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder Oct 23 19:27:13 err http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure is better Oct 23 19:27:49 Alison_Chalken : Chumby ? Oct 23 19:28:14 silemme: anything is possible, but probable? hardly Oct 23 19:29:44 silemme, here's what I ordered: https://store.chumby.com/?products_id=102 If I get meego working, I'll let everyone know. Oct 23 19:30:07 Alison_Chaiken: shouldn't be all that difficult Oct 23 19:30:29 ... I nearly bought a chumby about 2 years ago.... got an N800 instead.... and here I am ;) Oct 23 19:33:15 ljp, those words have oft left my lips. Now I'm old and know better. Oct 23 19:34:13 ok, let me rephrase that, shouldn't be all that difficult, as opposed to getting meego on n8 :) better? Oct 23 19:34:14 Alison_Chaiken: chumby is armv5 or v6? Oct 23 19:34:44 Alison_Chaiken: biggest thing might be which graphics chip it uses... *sigh* Oct 23 19:35:32 ljp: good point Oct 23 19:35:40 ljp: well, thats what i thought until i saw the htc desire video Oct 23 19:35:50 compliance in that area however.. Oct 23 19:36:25 how come I always associate the word 'compliance' with borg... Oct 23 19:37:44 in practice armv7 is rapidly becoming the armv5/armv6's replacement for cheap devices Oct 23 19:37:55 i mean, check price of a pandaboard.. Oct 23 19:40:35 * ljp wants to see meego running on a furby Oct 23 20:29:20 th0br0: ping Oct 23 20:33:01 niala: pong Oct 23 20:39:02 Stskeeps, chumby one is Freescale i.MX233, which is Arm 9. LCD is driven by CPU; see http://files.chumby.com/hackerboard/chumby_hackerboard.pdf Oct 23 20:44:54 am I wrong to think that meego was/is being developed for x86 arch? Oct 23 20:45:51 slingr: MeeGo 1.1 for x86 will be released on Wednesday Oct 23 20:45:59 (Netbook) Oct 23 20:47:38 slingr, meego is developed for x86 but already runs on ARM too (e.g. N900). Oct 23 20:49:05 yeah. I thought the arm devel was backport specifically for n900 (since we are being left with a dead OS) Oct 23 20:52:24 th0br0: multi touch works on your t101? I have only one finger and left clic Oct 23 20:52:41 th0br0: hello first, sorry :) Oct 23 20:52:42 niala: i don't own a netbook. Oct 23 20:52:54 other than that, i guess you'll have to tweak the xorg configs Oct 23 20:53:24 if multi touch is supported by the touchpad Oct 23 20:53:42 is not Oct 23 20:53:59 My understanding based on asking questions at LinuxCon expo is that there are long-term plans for Arm support, but I have no official word or inside info. Oct 23 20:54:30 only the t101-mt seems to support it, niala, i guess? Oct 23 20:54:58 Alison_Chaiken: there is the n900 project. Oct 23 20:55:07 Alison_Chaiken: join #meego-arm maybe Oct 23 20:56:07 th0br0, I agree about n900; just commenting I expect based on what I heard @ LinuxCon to see more ARM support for meego, but don't have any official word. Oct 23 20:56:43 meego supports ARM Oct 23 20:56:58 Oh I'm sorry, I hadn't seen that you talked earlier :S Thought it was a question. Oct 23 20:57:30 mousepad support only scroll on side not two finger, but the touchscreen should have a least 2 finger. I will investigate... Oct 23 20:57:36 th0br0: Alison_Chaiken is joining the MeeGo team next month Oct 23 20:58:04 ah, nice :) Oct 23 20:58:14 I m not in the team but welcolme Alison_Chaiken :) Oct 23 20:58:21 Yes, CosmoHill, altho at the moment most of my meego info comes from Engadget. Oct 23 20:58:34 ha! Oct 23 20:58:39 that's amusing :D Oct 23 20:58:40 engadget doesn't have real info Oct 23 20:58:48 it has leaks on product schedules and HW Oct 23 20:58:56 Thank you, niala. I just signed on yesterday, and am worried I'll wake up and be back in high school gym class instead. Oct 23 20:59:23 engadget have gadgetinfo Oct 23 21:00:27 didn't they get an apple employee almost fired? Oct 23 21:01:02 that was gizmodo Oct 23 21:01:07 ah okay Oct 23 21:01:21 gizmodo bought the iPhone 4 that got forgotten in a bar Oct 23 21:01:30 it wasnt almost Oct 23 21:01:34 it was fired Oct 23 21:01:35 CosmoHill, you're thinking of gizmodo, not engadget. Dude got himself fired IMHO. Don't pound beers and carry irreplaceable prototype! I will take old HTC G1 ADP to Bimbo's 365 Club tonight . . . Oct 23 21:02:19 it\s not irreplacable, you just need to buy it back on ebay Oct 23 21:02:23 hehe :D Oct 23 21:03:13 Alison_Chaiken: http://wiki.meego.com/Who%27s_who Oct 23 21:03:42 I probably should have added myself there months ago Oct 23 21:04:11 and if you carry a prototype to a bar, don't take it out of your bag! Oct 23 21:04:18 * thiago guesses the dude was trying to show off Oct 23 21:04:48 it someone went "look at me I have an iphone" I'd mock them Oct 23 21:05:20 he was trying to get laid with that :D Oct 23 21:06:08 VDVsx: that's what I was thinking Oct 23 21:07:32 he archived something similar: "laid-off" :D :D Oct 23 21:08:23 lol Oct 23 21:09:56 Alison_Chaiken, are you joining meego.org or some intel/nokia internal position ? Oct 23 21:10:01 if I can ask :P Oct 23 21:11:42 VDVsx, I will be Senior Solutions Manager at Nokia in Redwood City CA USA. My email is alchaiken@gmail.com. Please send me your feedback and ideas. I will be responsible for demos of device interoperability. Oct 23 21:12:04 RWC? Oct 23 21:12:21 so you're coming to Dev Days Oct 23 21:12:22 ? Oct 23 21:12:56 Alison_Chaiken, cool, didnt know that there's a office there :D Oct 23 21:13:14 I didn't know Nokia had other offices Oct 23 21:13:34 VDVsx: it's the old Trolltech office Oct 23 21:13:50 in CA only know about mountain view office Oct 23 21:14:11 * VDVsx is in California atm :D Oct 23 21:14:23 VDVsx: that one was Nokia before Oct 23 21:14:37 there's one in downtown SFO too Oct 23 21:18:09 does Nokia have offices in the UK? Oct 23 21:18:28 aye Oct 23 21:18:33 CosmoHill: yes Oct 23 21:18:51 and where are they? Oct 23 21:18:52 CosmoHill: http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/contacts/nokia-offices Oct 23 21:18:53 Alison_Chaiken: so you're coming to Dev Days in a week? Oct 23 21:19:01 thanks th0br0 Oct 23 21:19:33 london, cambridge, farnborough Oct 23 21:19:57 wow, 4 in london Oct 23 21:20:08 there're 4 in berln, too :) Oct 23 21:20:14 RWC & Mountain View offices are supposed to be consolidated in a new office in Sunnyvale, CA, which isn't far away. Yes, thiago, I am coming to the conference in Dublin next month. I hope to meet lots of you there. Oct 23 21:20:35 Alison_Chaiken: I meant the Qt Developer Days conference next week Oct 23 21:20:42 not MeeGo Conf next month Oct 23 21:22:12 th0br0: just noticed, only one of them has a phone number Oct 23 21:22:28 why, you want to call? Oct 23 21:23:05 not at the moment Oct 23 21:23:13 just thinking ahead for when I finish uni Oct 23 21:23:14 k Oct 23 21:24:04 move to Oslo Oct 23 21:24:34 Thiago, I will go to the 10/30 Dev Days meetup, but next week I must finish up at my old job during the day. Oct 23 21:24:49 Now time for well-deserved nap. Oct 23 21:25:13 ... people shouldn't be in such a hurry to leave Oct 23 21:25:35 * thiago should Oct 23 21:25:44 I'll be in a flight in 11 hours Oct 23 21:26:27 oh Oct 23 21:26:31 where you headed? Oct 23 21:26:38 but have a nice flight :) Oct 23 21:26:48 thiago: well you just missed coffeecat so you should sleep now Oct 23 21:28:37 grr, crappy wifi :( Oct 23 21:31:20 Orlando via Frankfurt Oct 23 21:32:23 long flight Oct 23 21:32:31 yes Oct 23 21:32:39 8 hours I think Oct 23 21:32:49 just 8 hrs? Oct 23 21:32:53 only ? Oct 23 21:33:08 it's another 5 hours in the airport and security :) Oct 23 21:33:14 not 5... Oct 23 21:33:22 (joke) Oct 23 21:33:26 oh k. Oct 23 21:34:41 lufthansa says oslo -> orlando (via frankfurt) are 14-17 hrs... depending on which flights you get. or rather, when you#re leaving in oslo. Oct 23 21:35:05 lol 8 hours Oct 23 21:35:36 it took my parents 12 hours to drive from one end of the UK to another Oct 23 21:36:09 why would you do that? Oct 23 21:36:30 they were on hoilday at one end and we live in the other Oct 23 21:37:04 8 hours just the FRA-MCO flight Oct 23 21:37:12 hello Oct 23 21:37:15 hello Oct 23 21:37:29 excuse me but i have a little question about moblin/meego. Oct 23 21:37:46 Is moblin really still developped, or do we have to use meego instead of it Oct 23 21:37:55 Erwyn: moblin is replaced by meego Oct 23 21:37:58 there is no moblin anymore Oct 23 21:38:04 thiago: oh ok Oct 23 21:38:09 mobin is no longer being developed, it has been replaced by meego Oct 23 21:38:35 maybe moblin's project managers should noticed this fact on the moblin's website... Oct 23 21:39:24 there isn't any information about this on the "common" pages, I noticed this cause of the last release date Oct 23 21:39:40 Erwyn: there is a post on the front page Oct 23 21:40:41 yeah i know but i can ensure you it't not enough visible that it's deprecated Oct 23 21:40:49 that's true. Oct 23 21:41:07 you say this but...Meego has been out for 8 months Oct 23 21:41:26 people must know moblin has been replaced by meego by now Oct 23 21:42:18 CosmoHill: not new netbooks owners who hasn't been interested in proper operating systems for this type of terminal brefore Oct 23 21:43:37 for example, a blogpost which relates a test of moblin on a netbook by a user: http://phollow.fr/2009/07/un-petit-essai-de-moblin-2-0/ Oct 23 21:43:42 (it's in french) Oct 23 21:43:53 Erwyn: look at the date Oct 23 21:43:56 it's also dated july 2009 Oct 23 21:44:23 non 2009 Oct 23 21:44:50 oh you're right Oct 23 21:44:59 google mistake Oct 23 21:45:09 15 Juillet 2009 Oct 23 21:45:19 at 7:09pm Oct 23 21:45:39 sorry, my fault, but i have friends who thought moblin is still developped Oct 23 21:45:47 hehe Oct 23 21:45:52 blame them then :) Oct 23 21:45:55 it's not a critic, just an advice, Oct 23 21:46:52 yes Oct 23 21:47:07 it doesnt "look like" deprecated Oct 23 21:47:09 the first thing you see is registration, the second is the note about Moblin being replaced Oct 23 21:47:17 Erwyn: it is, just under a new name Oct 23 21:49:44 ok Oct 23 21:50:03 so version 1.0 Oct 23 21:50:21 still fedora based? Oct 23 21:50:28 moblin was not fedora based Oct 23 21:50:32 1.1 comes out next week Oct 23 21:50:36 hey sofar Oct 23 21:50:36 meego is hella not fedora based either Oct 23 21:50:38 and meego is not fedora-based either Oct 23 21:50:45 rpm yes but no fedora Oct 23 21:50:51 lol ok Oct 23 21:50:56 Erwyn: please, tell everyone you know, that meego/fedora are NOT fedora based. thanks. Oct 23 21:50:57 it's a legend :) Oct 23 21:51:20 infobot: fedora is MeeGo is *NOT* fedora based. Never was. No, it's not, really. Oct 23 21:51:21 * infobot tells is MeeGo is *NOT* fedora based. Never was. No, it's not, really. that becoming RHCP certified, is The One True Way to Supreme Linux Knowledge Oct 23 21:51:39 there Oct 23 21:51:42 that was a rumor? Oct 23 21:51:50 or a misunderstanding of people Oct 23 21:51:58 Erwyn: no, it was people misunderstanding things (badly) Oct 23 21:52:02