**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 29 02:59:57 2010 Oct 29 03:00:14 * jay_bee waves Oct 29 03:02:26 Blackrock: Theres no definite upgrade path for Symbian to Meego at present. Oct 29 03:02:53 Jay_bee: Not comfortable waving back. I hope you understand. Oct 29 03:03:15 heh... no worries Oct 29 03:03:26 Lol Oct 29 03:04:11 congrats to the 1.1 release! now all I need is to get my 16gb micro sd back from my friend I loaned it to... Oct 29 03:04:55 Even a 4Gb will do, but most important is that is a fast card opposed to the size tbh. Oct 29 03:05:03 but then considering I got it so long ago, it was probably a class 2 card... so it's probably time to upgrade to class 6 or better Oct 29 03:05:11 SNAP ! Oct 29 03:05:34 All the millions of cards I've got, I've only got 1 class 4 Oct 29 03:05:57 so after class 6 is class 10 or is there also class 8? Oct 29 03:06:19 never heard of class 8. Oct 29 03:06:30 k Oct 29 03:06:45 brb Oct 29 03:18:53 re Oct 29 03:36:58 DawnFoster: around? Oct 29 03:37:24 thiago: always :) (and thanks for the chocolate) Oct 29 03:39:00 thiago: having fun in Portland? Oct 29 03:40:12 DawnFoster: yeah Oct 29 03:40:20 we had indian food for dinner then came back to the hotel Oct 29 03:40:28 we're now sitting by the fire at the lobby Oct 29 03:40:37 not as fancy as skamania, but it will do :-) Oct 29 03:41:45 thiago: sounds nice - it's been a little rainy, so inside by a fire is probably a pretty good place to be right now Oct 29 03:42:51 yep, it is Oct 29 03:42:56 did you like the chocolate? Oct 29 03:44:13 hm .. chocolate ... Oct 29 03:44:15 I just tried a piece - it's delicious! Oct 29 03:44:45 * thiago likes Norwegian chocolate too Oct 29 03:45:09 I bring it to people because they seem to enjoy it too Oct 29 03:45:27 everybody likes chocolate :) Oct 29 03:45:35 unfortunately, you wouldn't like the one I prefer the most (the name directly translates to "milk chocolate") Oct 29 03:45:37 especially good chocolate Oct 29 03:45:59 now, suddenly I'm in the mood for wine :) Oct 29 03:45:59 * timoph is allergic to chocolate Oct 29 03:46:02 milk chocolate is great :) Oct 29 03:46:15 though I seem to prefer white (milk) chocolate most Oct 29 03:46:19 timoph - oh no! Oct 29 03:46:27 timoph: ouch :( Oct 29 03:46:30 yep. :( Oct 29 03:47:34 I also avoid the chocolate with nuts for gifts. I know some people are allergic. Oct 29 03:47:46 mint sounded like a safe bet though Oct 29 03:48:32 I kinda know how you feel. I'm allergic to seafood but everyone around talks about how I'm missing much Oct 29 03:48:52 thiago: I still find mint chocolate a bit weird, but not as weird as chili chocolate Oct 29 03:48:56 (or whatever that's called) Oct 29 03:49:06 lol Oct 29 03:49:16 how about chocolate pizza? Oct 29 03:49:27 O.o Oct 29 03:49:30 :) Oct 29 03:49:34 I hope you mean chocolate in the form/shape of pizza Oct 29 03:49:45 and not pizza topped with chocolate ... Oct 29 03:49:52 I actually like chili chocolate - like mexican spicy chocolate, I assume you mean? Oct 29 03:50:03 thiago: You should try Pizza Schmizza while you're here Oct 29 03:50:12 I think. we don't have that here, so I'm totally unaware of what it even tastes like Oct 29 03:50:21 that and I have a very low tolerance for spicy stuff :) Oct 29 03:50:25 They have fun toppings like potato and spaghetti on their pizzas Oct 29 03:50:37 pixelgeek: and chocolate? :) Oct 29 03:50:44 Jucato: no, I meant pizza topped with chocolate Oct 29 03:50:48 ha - I also like chili pepper drinks - like hot pepper infused vodka and the like. Oct 29 03:50:57 * pixelgeek checks their menu Oct 29 03:51:01 thiago: hmmmm, not sure about that :) Oct 29 03:51:04 thiago: ok, as long as there's no tomato sauce or cheese :P Oct 29 03:51:09 no, there isn't Oct 29 03:51:25 the pizza is simply a delivery platform for the chocolate Oct 29 03:51:35 then that's ok I guess. I mean after all we do have chocolate on bread, and pizza dough is just like that :) Oct 29 03:51:42 like banana pizza and icecream pizza Oct 29 03:52:18 fried ice cream ... Oct 29 03:52:47 mmmm.. baked alaska Oct 29 03:52:53 * jay_bee chuckles at thiago Oct 29 03:52:58 yes, but then it has a different name Oct 29 03:53:08 it's just "flamed" Oct 29 03:54:40 Congrats to the team on the 1.1 release BTW Oct 29 03:55:20 oh good, I was picturing tomato sauce, cheese and little bits of chocolate floating on top Oct 29 03:55:41 chocolate on some pizza crust would be a little like a huge chocolate chip cookie Oct 29 03:56:13 it's a desert pizza Oct 29 03:56:46 * jay_bee nods at Dawn Oct 29 03:57:18 DawnFoster: yeah I was worried about the too. good thing thiago clarified :) Oct 29 03:57:46 oh yeah, congrats on 1.1 especially handset UX :) Oct 29 03:57:48 Jucato: I know - it sounded really gross at first :) Oct 29 03:57:51 geez, I just had dinner and you guys are making me hungry Oct 29 03:58:18 haha! I just had lunch as well. too full to be hungry though. but I am somewhat craving for a warm chocolate drink :/ Oct 29 03:58:30 * jay_bee replaces the latest nightly trunk qt fennec 4 with the gtk version on his n900 Oct 29 03:58:47 Time to break out the halloween candy... Oct 29 03:58:48 * thiago has only had this kind of pizza in Brazil Oct 29 03:59:25 * Jucato finds fennec still sluggish even on maemo5 on the n900. Oct 29 03:59:37 jay_bee: you mean the fennec on the handset ux is using Qt? Oct 29 03:59:52 Jucato: that was microb Oct 29 03:59:56 i'm running maemo5 Oct 29 04:00:15 thiago: microb on meego 1.1 handset ux? Oct 29 04:00:28 no, maemo5 Oct 29 04:00:29 i hope to have meego running on my n900 sometime next week Oct 29 04:00:41 thiago: ah nah. I was really referring to fennec :) Oct 29 04:00:52 I installed it from their repo Oct 29 04:00:59 * thiago still needs to upgrade to PR1.3 on his N900 Oct 29 04:01:10 pr1.3 rox Oct 29 04:01:12 faster than on maemo4 but still more sluggish than microb Oct 29 04:08:41 fennec with qt makes some ... interesting... design choices Oct 29 04:10:59 "interesting". nice choice of words :) Oct 29 04:12:39 though I'm still wondering why 1) the netbook UX still uses google chrome (looking at the download links) or 2) we're not using webkit (since I thought it would be the obvious choice given there's QtWebkit, or that S60's latest browser(s) use WebKit too afaik) Oct 29 04:13:52 the browser is device-specific Oct 29 04:13:58 each vendor chooses what they want to ship with Oct 29 04:14:06 sometimes, it's also about the brand Oct 29 04:14:24 yeah if i ever install the netbook ux, chrome is the first thing to be uninstalled, if possible Oct 29 04:14:29 as for QtWebKit, can you point to a good browser for handset devices? Oct 29 04:16:31 thiago: I had thought Nokia would be developing one. but point taken :) Oct 29 04:16:49 * Jucato is also somewhat locked in to using fennec because of Sync Oct 29 04:17:44 i need to figure out how to use sync to perform the sync's locally and not over the intarnetz Oct 29 04:18:47 iirc you can install sync on your own, for example a local server. my friend has that, but I don't know how he set it up Oct 29 04:20:36 hmm... local server eh? i'll look it up Oct 29 04:21:46 random question - is anyone hosting a meego VM? Oct 29 04:21:57 (image) Oct 29 04:24:15 or do I have to download the mic-image-creator and create my own? Oct 29 04:25:23 DawnFoster: oh, now I remember: some people are asking for MeeGo t-shirts Oct 29 04:25:28 are there some left in the office? Oct 29 04:25:56 thiago: I think so. Amy should be able to hook you up with some t-shirts Oct 29 04:26:15 we might have some at the dev days booth - again, Amy would know :) Oct 29 04:26:22 ooh... i'd love to have a meego t-shirt... but then i'm not running it yet... Oct 29 04:26:29 I'll talk to her tomorrow them Oct 29 04:27:48 thanks Oct 29 04:28:00 oh btw, is there a policy or style guidelines for creating your own MeeGon? :) Oct 29 04:28:17 Jucato: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Style_Guide Oct 29 04:28:37 and http://wiki.meego.com/Meegons Oct 29 04:28:57 awesome! thanks :) Oct 29 04:30:38 jay_bee: now that you mention it ... I'm still on the "wait and see" level, but very much excited about MeeGo. Maybe I'll also "wait and see" before trying to get a cute customized MeeGon :) Oct 29 04:31:35 haha I see leinir's meegon in the list! :) Oct 29 04:33:59 * thiago likes the one on crashdb Oct 29 04:36:29 ah... um... I guess this answers my question - http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro#The_MeeGo_VM_appliance Oct 29 04:37:03 yeah, the crashdb guy is my personal favorite Oct 29 04:39:09 * thiago sees an ad on TV about web-connected printers by HP Oct 29 04:39:24 those looked familiar... Oct 29 04:39:37 they're the ones running Qt :-) Oct 29 04:42:41 thiago: http://www.precentral.net/hp-touts-web-connected-eprint-printers-webos-devices-video ? Oct 29 06:29:25 thiago: while browsing the app manager, I just remembered: as for QtWebKit, can you point to a good browser for handset devices? <-- Digia@Web Oct 29 06:48:29 morning Oct 29 06:51:17 gn Oct 29 06:52:09 morn Oct 29 06:54:13 I updated my wiki page about howto get wifi working with Meego 1.1 & Lenovo S10-3t -> http://rainisto.com/wiki/index.php?title=MeegoS10-3t Oct 29 07:04:07 hey, im having problems flashing the kernel with the meego firmware Oct 29 07:04:24 im not getting past the "flasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009) Oct 29 07:04:24 Suitable USB device not found, waiting." text Oct 29 07:04:50 take out usb cable on both sides, make sure the n900 is really dead, insert usb cables Oct 29 07:04:54 :P Oct 29 07:04:56 are the instructions correct? What im doing is removing the battery, placing it back along with the cover. then i plug my device via usb and start the flasher Oct 29 07:05:06 should be good enough Oct 29 07:05:58 when i plug in the usb cables the device seems to start up Oct 29 07:06:07 but nothing on pc side? Oct 29 07:06:10 no Oct 29 07:06:15 are you running flasher as root? Oct 29 07:06:21 hmm ill try that. :D Oct 29 07:06:33 also, it's not in a vm or something right.. Oct 29 07:06:34 :P Oct 29 07:08:02 meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.3-n900 Oct 29 07:08:17 yes, looks right Oct 29 07:08:54 i was kinda hoping for a "select operating system" step in the boot process :p Oct 29 07:09:06 im guessing it wont take long untill someone codes trhat Oct 29 07:10:01 so ur absolutely sure i should not start up the device or anything Oct 29 07:10:12 quite sure, the usb plugging in would be enough Oct 29 07:10:13 start the flasher first before plugging the device Oct 29 07:10:20 yeah i did that now Oct 29 07:10:46 * Jucato himself forgot to read the part about putting back the battery cover first :) Oct 29 07:10:58 C:\Program Files (x86)\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5.exe -l -k meego-handset-arm Oct 29 07:10:58 v7l-n900-1.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.3-n900 -b Oct 29 07:11:05 does that look right? Oct 29 07:11:13 yes Oct 29 07:11:25 is that the equivalent of "as root" on windows? Oct 29 07:11:59 i started the command prompt with administrator rights so i guess that would be the equivalent of "as root" Oct 29 07:12:25 btw Oct 29 07:12:30 is windows 7 not supported by the maemo flasher? Oct 29 07:12:37 cause thats what im using :p Oct 29 07:12:48 supported operating systems: - Windows XP with SP3 and Vista with SP2 Oct 29 07:13:01 I would presume it's also supported :) Oct 29 07:14:43 "What version of Windows are you using? Take note that Maemo Flasher doesn't work with 64-bit versions of Vista and Windows 7" Oct 29 07:14:44 lmao Oct 29 07:14:49 that explains it Oct 29 07:15:10 so i should use the on device solution then, i dont even have any virtual machines at the moment Oct 29 07:15:38 not possible to run cmd as in 32-bit mode or something? Oct 29 07:15:46 might be, don't know Oct 29 07:19:18 Jucato, yes by using c:\windows\SysWow64\cmd.exe Oct 29 07:19:22 i tried that but did not help Oct 29 07:20:41 "for windows 7 user, first reboot your PC, press F8, select option “Turn off signed drivers”….is ready for flash." Oct 29 07:22:38 Where could I find the highlights of Meego 1.1 for Netbooks? Oct 29 07:26:45 ok that didnt solve the problem Oct 29 07:26:54 how long should it take exactly for it to find the device? :p Oct 29 07:28:15 fairly quick Oct 29 07:38:44 nope nothing seems to help Oct 29 07:39:22 Zeddy: that's weird - boot up with a linux livecd (32bit) and check? Oct 29 07:40:23 my computer doesnt have a cd drive :P Oct 29 07:40:31 sigh Oct 29 07:40:36 liveusb then Oct 29 07:40:37 :P Oct 29 07:40:57 i think ill just wait for the meego team to fix the issues and then try again Oct 29 07:41:19 i'm from the meego-n900 team and i can tell you flasher isn't acting as it shoul Oct 29 07:41:19 :P Oct 29 07:41:37 i tried disabling driver signing completely, running in 32 bit mode, running with admin priviledges and so on.. nothing Oct 29 07:41:49 Stskeeps, oh :P Oct 29 07:44:04 well it seems that the problem is well known with the maemo flasher Oct 29 07:44:09 yeah Oct 29 07:44:16 well Oct 29 07:44:16 i found alot of topics conserning windows 7 64 bit and the flasher Oct 29 07:44:18 with 64-bit in general Oct 29 07:46:06 ill just install xp mode and run that Oct 29 08:24:12 Hi mmeeks Oct 29 08:24:19 et al Oct 29 08:24:44 dneary: Dave ! :-) Oct 29 08:24:53 Yessir? Oct 29 08:25:04 dneary: I saw some rumours of Java goodness tonight that made my copyrights-on-APIs blog post from some months back look strangely prescient ;-) Oct 29 08:25:10 Did you see how prescient and non-committal I was back in 2007? Oct 29 08:25:27 file:///home/michael/activity/blog/2010-08-16-java-copyrights.html Oct 29 08:25:45 dneary: heh :-) so - let us scratch each other's backs then ;-) Oct 29 08:25:56 * mmeeks finds a non-file URL Oct 29 08:26:00 You shouldn't have to wait for people to notice when you have foresight - "I told you so" should be OK sometimes (just to remind people to listen next time) Oct 29 08:26:04 http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2010-08-16-java-copyrights.html Oct 29 08:27:29 Weird - I have a network connection over wifi on this laptop (obviously, I'm talking to you) but no DNS Oct 29 08:29:46 mmeeks, I'll read it Oct 29 08:29:55 What are the rumours? Oct 29 08:36:41 Oh wow Oct 29 08:37:26 mmeeks, Yes, I remember reading that & thinking "maybe Michael's just being paranoid", but now that you say it, specs as copyrighted material has potential for mayhem Oct 29 08:37:39 Although, surely one could clean-room the specs Oct 29 08:37:50 Starting from the raw API Oct 29 08:37:56 hi there Oct 29 08:38:22 got a general question on bug fixing Oct 29 08:39:34 dneary: well - if you have to implement the spec - you have to have the same APIs, methods, parameters etc. Oct 29 08:40:54 mmeeks, Surely tyhat's classic fair use? Oct 29 08:41:43 is it strictly necessary to use an OBS system to do bug fixing? Oct 29 08:41:43 Although... I guess we do copyright headers Oct 29 08:41:53 lorenzo_: technically you can do it on device too Oct 29 08:42:15 sorry for the OT discussion, everyone except mmeeks :) Oct 29 08:43:05 dneary: we discuss bacon at times, java apis is ok too Oct 29 08:43:05 :P Oct 29 08:43:10 Stskeep: do you mean simply rebuilding the library and installing it every time on the device Oct 29 08:43:40 lorenzo_: for instance, or doing it in a osc chroot Oct 29 08:44:01 mmeeks, But of course, the expression of the spec (Java class definitions) are available under a FaiF license (twice!) Oct 29 08:44:37 So asserting ownership for Android would simultaneously (surely) be asserting a copyright infringement by Harmony? Oct 29 08:44:38 lorenzo_: http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS Oct 29 08:46:02 Stskeeps: great, I'll give it a try, thanks Oct 29 08:50:54 mmeeks, Your paragraph "but you can't copyright APIs" - turns out that people do all the time, now I think of it. And I'm a big fan of your footer link re. the Swedish Conspiracy Oct 29 08:51:06 Stskeeps, Do you know about the swedish conspiracy? Oct 29 08:51:08 dneary: lol ;-) Oct 29 09:45:48 lbt: so it feels in no time will be in this sad situation for newbs installing community apps outside of the compliance? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9089 Oct 29 09:45:50 Bug 9089: Upgrading Maemo itself (nokia official recommended upgrade) failed with "no enough space" on target device. Oct 29 09:45:53 <_MeeGoBot_> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9089 is not accessible Oct 29 09:46:31 heh, povbot needs to tech _MeeGoBot_ to fetch the bugs according to the shortened URLs Oct 29 09:49:27 andre__: it's possible to hide individual comments? interesting Oct 29 09:49:58 Stskeeps, sure it is Oct 29 09:50:18 hey andre__ :) Oct 29 09:50:22 heja Oct 29 09:50:23 and Stskeeps Oct 29 09:53:14 Stskeeps, can you see comments 27 and 28 in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 ? Oct 29 09:53:15 Bug 3809: Typing occasionally slows to a crawl, lags input Oct 29 09:53:17 <_MeeGoBot_> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 maj, High, 1.1, ningxin.hu, VERI FIXED, Internet Panel panels fail to lanuch Oct 29 09:53:27 andre__: good point Oct 29 09:53:54 yay, povbot triggers MeeGoBot. sigh Oct 29 09:58:29 andre__, the "insider group" will need to be extendable if they want to see Stskeeps porn collection Oct 29 09:59:28 lcuk: that's something to discuss with the maintainers, but you have a valid point here Oct 29 10:00:27 tho frankly, putting sensitive information on something and trusting admins to maintain the locks on that data is folly Oct 29 10:01:04 one accidental opening and carstens favorite websites are known to everyone Oct 29 10:03:55 I don't see a problem. Good things should be shared. Oct 29 10:04:06 * stephg chuckles Oct 29 10:04:07 lol Oct 29 10:05:54 hello i have some problems with meego on my asus 1005PE, the thing is that internal microphone doesnt work, nor the hot keys... and the screen is too dark... i've read that addin add acpi_osi=Linux to the kernel boot parameters the dark thing can be arranged but no idea of where i do have to add it... anybody can help me? Oct 29 10:09:10 hello i have some problems with meego on my asus 1005PE, the thing is that internal microphone doesnt work, nor the hot keys... and the screen is too dark... i've read that addin add acpi_osi=Linux to the kernel boot parameters the dark thing can be arranged but no idea of where i do have to add it... anybody can help me? Oct 29 10:09:32 repeating yourself will not get you more answers. repeating yourself will not get you more answers. Oct 29 10:09:38 patience might though Oct 29 10:10:02 sorry lol Oct 29 10:10:27 i'm despereted.... been all nith trying to find the file where add this thing :S Oct 29 10:10:43 bootmanager configuration? Oct 29 10:11:15 yes Oct 29 10:11:55 andre__: but where is it? Oct 29 10:14:53 zabouka, my guess is /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf Oct 29 10:30:16 it didn't work :( Oct 29 10:30:51 someone has meego on asus 1005pe? Oct 29 10:30:51 zabouka, what? Oct 29 10:31:42 zabouka, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices Oct 29 10:34:57 lcuk: i have nothing to do with that list... i already know mine is compatible Oct 29 10:36:08 zabouka, if its fully compatible, whats your problem? Oct 29 10:36:19 if its not, please add some notes onto that page Oct 29 10:36:43 i've had meegon on my hp 110 now for a while and i'm quite fond of it Oct 29 10:37:02 just with i had a touchscreen and 720p resolution Oct 29 10:37:05 wish Oct 29 10:37:35 lcuk: the prolem is that screen is too darky, i used to use ubuntu and it also arrives... but changing grub configuration i solved the problem... here in meego... no idea of how i change it... can i show you what i did on ubuntu and you tell me if it's possible to do into meego? Oct 29 10:42:27 zabouka, maybe check the extlinux manual what options it provides... Oct 29 10:42:52 zabouka, I do not know how to fix your device, and posting links to my PM box unsolicited wont help Oct 29 10:43:21 I was just trying to help by pointing to the device compatability table incase someone else had marked similar issues Oct 29 10:43:43 the 491 people here might know more >> Oct 29 11:07:55 trying to boot meego 1.1 handset on the n900 of the microsd... in a word... doesn't work... Oct 29 11:08:02 followed this: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 29 11:08:15 I can see the sd card has the 2 partitions one as btrfs Oct 29 11:08:20 can mount that one an it works Oct 29 11:09:35 seems to be just stuck at the nokia screen Oct 29 11:09:55 I tried core as well but that claimed it didn't support btrfs for root Oct 29 11:09:56 you shouldn't even see the nokia screen afaik Oct 29 11:10:37 ruskie: the trunk (1.1.80) is broke at the moment Oct 29 11:10:48 stephg, ok.. .but what about 1.1? Oct 29 11:10:52 that was what I downloaded Oct 29 11:10:54 when you ran flasher-3.5 did it output anything? Oct 29 11:11:03 yeah Oct 29 11:11:05 sends the kernel Oct 29 11:11:23 hmm I think I'm using the wrong kernel Oct 29 11:11:43 you should try this image & kernel: Oct 29 11:11:45 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ Oct 29 11:11:54 yup Oct 29 11:11:55 anything else, you're going to have trouble with at the moment I'm afraid Oct 29 11:11:55 have those Oct 29 11:12:18 yeah... was calling the wrong kernel Oct 29 11:12:33 had two Oct 29 11:12:33 good luck with the right one ;) Oct 29 11:12:41 meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.3.20101026.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-9.5-n900 and meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.3-n900 Oct 29 11:12:46 :) Oct 29 11:13:23 I take it it takes a while to display any GUI(assuming it has one) when running from a class4 card Oct 29 11:13:43 the first boot is slower than subsequent ones for a bunch of reasons Oct 29 11:13:49 ok Oct 29 11:13:52 but yes, the GUI isn't particularly quick to come first time Oct 29 11:14:14 really just need a way to access the rootfs of the device and fix my blunder... as in run a depmod on the right dir Oct 29 11:14:37 well if you dd'd the right iamge to your SD card Oct 29 11:14:42 you only need to reflash with the right kernel Oct 29 11:15:02 I'm trying to save from reflashing the root Oct 29 11:15:31 again: if you flashed the 1.1 release (not 1.1.x development) you only need to run flasher again Oct 29 11:15:36 not DD Oct 29 11:15:48 I meant for m5 ;) Oct 29 11:16:10 hmm. exactly what was your flasher command ;) Oct 29 11:16:28 I rolled my own m5 kernel and forgot to run a depmod on the modules dir Oct 29 11:16:33 so I can't boot using that Oct 29 11:16:36 aha Oct 29 11:16:47 so trying to get it done this way Oct 29 11:18:01 is meego running fine in acer aspire one d260 ? Oct 29 11:19:26 aguitel, the 250 is on the supported devices list, no mention of the 260 Oct 29 11:19:27 http://wiki.meego.com/Devices Oct 29 11:22:03 ruskie: I actually just reflashed my n900 a few minutes ago. something went wrong with the webos games thing :) Oct 29 11:22:49 hmm how can I gain root in meego 1.1? Oct 29 11:23:56 isn't it root/meego? Oct 29 11:24:16 ahh Oct 29 11:25:45 yeah not sudo but su at the moment Oct 29 11:27:46 ruskie: have you tried to flash the std m5 kernel only? Oct 29 11:27:59 yeah won't work simply because there is no modules for it to use Oct 29 11:28:05 it boots but doesn't go passed that Oct 29 11:28:19 ah so you got no modules at all atm? Oct 29 11:28:28 they are in a diff dir... Oct 29 11:28:32 lol Oct 29 11:28:38 ok that sounds ugly Oct 29 11:28:40 yup Oct 29 11:29:29 is there a way to export / in R&D mode? Oct 29 11:29:40 well I'm booted in meego atm Oct 29 11:29:49 but can't mount anything from any of the mtdblock devices Oct 29 11:33:38 o mount an ubifs volume, one does not directly access the underlying nand device (mtd). The exact procedure depends on the kernel and the state of the used backport. You need to do an ubiattach first. <-- and there is no ubiattach that I can see Oct 29 11:38:21 lcuk, the question is the sd card reader Oct 29 11:38:48 lcuk, in ubuntu/debian is not working Oct 29 11:44:05 so no ubiattach no way to access the rootfs Oct 29 11:44:42 aguitel, why are you asking here if its a debian/ubuntu problem? :p Oct 29 11:45:08 * lcuk starts writing Oct 29 11:46:40 lcuk, coz maybe meego solve this Oct 29 11:47:41 aguitel, sure, since the 250 is marked as compatible, it would be good if you could try it on the 260 and report back then Oct 29 11:47:57 ok Oct 29 12:07:00 How can I give feedback regarding the install instructions for meego on N900 ? Oct 29 12:07:11 Afternoon all btw :-) Oct 29 12:07:57 MeeGoExperts, type away, preferably show link to the instructions you are on about. if the changes make sense the wiki can be updated Oct 29 12:09:43 Lol @ type away !! I love it Oct 29 12:09:59 MeeGoExperts, its your meego too :) Oct 29 12:11:03 "If you see the message shown in 6, then connect the N900 with USB cable to your PC and the flash should start automatically" <<â€” Surely we need to keep "U" pressed on the Nokia N900 keyboard before we connect the USB cable ? Oct 29 12:11:07 :-) Oct 29 12:11:32 http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-meego-nokia-n900 Oct 29 12:11:34 MeeGoExperts: no Oct 29 12:12:09 its only in case you have a stupid os that doesnt like usb device changes Oct 29 12:12:20 ive never used u, personally Oct 29 12:12:41 I could'nt get mine to work off a mac without it. Oct 29 12:13:43 hello, I want to test meego 1.1 in a kvm virtual machine. Is it ok in 64 bits ? Oct 29 12:14:43 arthurc: I've been having problems but maybe other have managed to get it to work. Oct 29 12:15:06 let's test Oct 29 12:16:45 hmm does meego 1.1 already charge the n900? Oct 29 12:17:28 yes, just not with wall charger Oct 29 12:17:34 Thanks for the feedback guys. Starving. Food. Gotta go :-) Oct 29 12:18:17 Stskeeps, i guess the mac version of the flasher isnt detecting mode Oct 29 12:19:02 even though we do not need the U variation since battery insertion works so well everywhere, its potentially still required to be documented? Oct 29 12:23:28 Stskeeps, also to many people mac os is far fro ma stupid os Oct 29 12:23:51 omg... managed to save my install through meego Oct 29 12:24:25 lcuk: the fact that most people don't see the stupidity doesn't mean it isn't stupid :-) Oct 29 12:25:00 like when doing a benchmark of thread locking primitives on Mac and losing to a virtual machine running Linux with the same test on the same Mac Oct 29 12:26:12 thiago, what about benchmarks that matter to people in general :P Oct 29 12:27:07 "can i upload videos" "can i watch youtube" "do my screens look slick and inviting" :P Oct 29 12:27:11 what, you don't run applications that start 10 threads and try to race each other to 2000 locks? :-) Oct 29 12:28:07 thiago, my apps just start quickly Oct 29 12:28:29 if every app is doing as you said, no wonder people complain about speed :P Oct 29 12:59:51 I see meego 1.1 is on distrowatch, what is n900 support like with this release? Oct 29 13:03:27 it'll run Oct 29 13:03:34 beyond that... 10 minutes of fun Oct 29 13:04:57 it's for developers, end users get only a limited amount of joy out of it Oct 29 13:14:32 Ahh thanks for the input. Oct 29 13:14:43 Think we will ever see a functional n900 under it? Oct 29 13:15:52 sure Oct 29 13:15:57 1.1 just isn't it Oct 29 13:21:19 Good good. Oct 29 13:21:32 * Jef91 goes back to his maemo and nitdriod hole until 1.2 then Oct 29 13:44:01 Hi, I have some questions about Meego. 1, How Can I install it on my harddrive, of course dual boot ? 2, Can I set other language as english? Oct 29 13:44:34 yes and yes Oct 29 13:44:48 i assume you are talking about meego on netbook Oct 29 13:45:16 I have a nettop MSI Wind Nettop 120 XP with Intel Atom N230 Oct 29 13:45:54 hmm, check out meego.com and netbooks Oct 29 13:46:11 there's a list of supported hardware Oct 29 13:48:00 My computer is not listed, but I could run it without problem with Moblin Oct 29 15:56:01 hey... i upgrade my perl to 5.12.1 and i need new packages perl-DBI and perl-DBD (i was using fedora ones because meego doesnt have them) that requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.1) instead of perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) that was being provided in the last version of perl that i had... how can i solve this? Oct 29 16:11:29 hello... I just downloaded the MeeGo 1.1, used image-writer to load a usb disk, and booted into a compaq mini 110c, but I got a "Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!"... any ideas? :-) Oct 29 16:57:32 hello how can i upgrade from 1.0.4 to 1.1 ? Oct 29 17:00:31 I'm writing a wiki page about that Oct 29 17:00:41 please stand by until that's finished Oct 29 17:01:54 auke, awesome :) Oct 29 17:02:47 * berndhs figures to wait until the dust settles a little with upgrading to 1.1 Oct 29 17:03:41 auke: thanks dude!!! ill be arround here, just type my name when you will finnished! ^^ Oct 29 17:05:30 and what's the difference between 1.0.4 and 1.1? Oct 29 17:05:56 0.0.6 Oct 29 17:06:08 lcuk: :) Oct 29 17:06:22 :P Oct 29 17:07:24 zaza: This page has release notes which talk about what has changed: http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.1/meego-v1.1-netbooks Oct 29 17:07:54 for netbook - other devices are in the sidebar for those release notes Oct 29 17:08:07 DawnFoster, in a past life, we used to maintain a release highlights page Oct 29 17:08:19 which we added the top X new things to for each release Oct 29 17:08:30 then you could just read from the top to your current version Oct 29 17:08:39 and get to know the best bits since your current one Oct 29 17:09:07 would be great to see someone do that in the wiki Oct 29 17:09:54 me and boss would always have to rearrange stuff tho, i kept adding technical stuff, it was actually wanted to glance down at the big new features Oct 29 17:15:32 hey... i upgrade my perl to 5.12.1 and i need new packages perl-DBI and perl-DBD (i was using fedora ones because meego doesnt have them) that requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.1) instead of perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) that was being provided in the last version of perl that i had... how can i solve this? Oct 29 17:15:37 do you know how can i install more languages for the corrector? Oct 29 17:45:12 MeeGo wins "Best New Open-Source Project" for 2009 or 2010 in Linux Journal's Reader Poll, although Android wins "Product of the Year" and "Best Mobile OS." N900 wins "Best Linux Smartphone." Source: December 2010 issue. Oct 29 17:52:38