**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 30 02:59:57 2010 Oct 30 10:18:01 lbt: there? Oct 30 10:50:20 hello yesterday i've installed meego 1.1 but i can't connect to msn account and facebook account doesn't appear ... someone can help me? Oct 30 10:54:55 someone is having the same problem with facebook status and msn account? Oct 30 11:07:59 hello yesterday i've installed meego 1.1 but i can't connect to msn account and facebook account doesn't appear ... someone can help me? Oct 30 11:15:09 hello yesterday i've installed meego 1.1 but i can't connect to msn account and facebook account doesn't appear ... someone can help me? Oct 30 11:27:09 hello, is facebook status plugin available on meego 1.1? Oct 30 11:27:48 @esmirlin Not yet I think Oct 30 11:28:31 impje: and what about msn? i try to connect but i got a message saying some error :S Oct 30 11:29:03 esmirlin: did you manage to get an internet connection? Oct 30 11:29:32 yes, actually i'm connect to my facebook and irc account... Oct 30 11:29:39 just msn doesn't work Oct 30 11:31:09 i though server and port are incorrects but with 1.0.4 it works i can't guess why :S Oct 30 11:33:32 hm, can't help you there, I didn't succeed yet in establising an internet connection -> did you use the settings screen or throught the terminal? Oct 30 11:34:25 impje: settings screen... have no ide of how to do it throught the terminal lol Oct 30 11:35:03 hm, I will have to try again then Oct 30 11:35:18 have to go now, bye Oct 30 11:35:49 bye! Oct 30 11:36:21 what about msn? i try to connect but i got a message saying some error :-S Oct 30 11:38:10 oops, wrong channel, thought we were talking about the N900 :S Oct 30 11:41:38 Hi, I found that Meego 1.1 has been released for N900 phones, great to hear it! My deal is that, does any try to install meego 1.1 using this method http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND? I think about, does it really card mmc is needed? Oct 30 11:48:02 slowness, looks intresting I have to n900 maybe I will get sometime to test it. I probadly should be faster than MMC but I havents seen a NAND image for 1.1 so not sure it will work Oct 30 11:48:20 to meant I havbve two n900:s :-P Oct 30 11:49:40 mikecomputing: ok, so in this case I need to go buy mmc card :) Oct 30 11:51:47 slowness, yep but make sure its fastest mmc u can get cause staring apps from MMC is dogslow Oct 30 11:53:29 bonjour niala Oct 30 11:53:43 hello CosmoHill Oct 30 11:53:59 youpi c'est le week end Oct 30 11:54:16 youpi? Oct 30 11:54:41 yeah Oct 30 11:54:49 i mean what does it mean Oct 30 11:56:11 youpi = yeah (mostly say that) Oct 30 11:56:33 a children world Oct 30 11:56:34 oh I see Oct 30 11:56:40 looks like an onomatopoeia to me Oct 30 11:56:44 word... waouh I need café Oct 30 11:58:00 you need a café?! Oct 30 11:58:09 wouldn't a coffee be easier to get? Oct 30 11:58:21 café=coffe Oct 30 11:58:29 oh I see Oct 30 11:58:40 * dm8tbr already had an mokka today, now it's coffee time :) Oct 30 11:59:54 I went to bed to late this morning!!! lol aspirin will help me Oct 30 12:14:14 CosmoHill: premier league this we? Reading vs ? Oct 30 12:16:55 niala: the one below it Oct 30 12:17:25 niala: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/9129194.stm Oct 30 12:17:41 niala: www.cosmo1847.co.uk << Me in my Reading FC shirt :) Oct 30 12:22:13 CosmoHill, http://www.cosmo1847.co.uk/?page=server has a spelling mistake, it should say "and now it runs a home-brew" instead of "and not it runs a home-brew" Oct 30 12:22:24 CosmoHill: :( my team is in national, that mean L1->L2->Nationnal sad Oct 30 12:22:39 thanks Termana Oct 30 12:22:48 you have no idea how many years that typo will have been there :p Oct 30 12:23:11 :p Oct 30 12:24:15 try now Oct 30 12:25:17 CosmoHill, much better! :p Oct 30 12:25:33 CosmoHill: you are 8e maybe you will be european next year. It will be funny a olympique marseille vs reading Oct 30 12:25:41 CosmoHill, Though I think the pages are outdated anyway, aren't they? (The information on them) Oct 30 12:25:55 I don't get new computers often :( Oct 30 12:26:08 ohh it's #meego here lol MeeGoFoot :) Oct 30 12:27:01 can we develop a Qtmeego reading football score ? Oct 30 12:27:16 niala, you can develop any application you like Oct 30 12:27:23 maybe format the BBC's RSS feed Oct 30 12:27:31 difficult? Oct 30 12:28:23 qweb I suppose Oct 30 12:28:42 webkit ? Oct 30 12:29:00 I m noobs in devel Oct 30 12:44:28 anaZ: pong Oct 30 13:09:02 DawnFoster: http://applegeeks.com/comics/viewcomic.php?issue=128 Oct 30 13:12:01 lbt: in boss, where do I define the workflow and process? Oct 30 13:12:43 we have a git repo that holds the various processes Oct 30 13:12:54 process==workflow in BOSS Oct 30 13:13:14 that's then 'launched' Oct 30 13:16:13 and where is that repo? Oct 30 13:16:33 lbt: is that documented somewhere? Oct 30 13:16:42 we use an OBS launcher called robogrator Oct 30 13:17:13 which uses the event key to look in a directory for a suitable process to launch Oct 30 13:17:52 I think that bit is nokia internal at the moment Oct 30 13:17:58 and where is all of that? Oct 30 13:17:59 the process that it Oct 30 13:18:02 hehe Oct 30 13:18:08 great stuff Oct 30 13:18:44 ok, so what do I need to do to get going? Oct 30 13:18:45 it runs against nokia internal systems... so it's not really useful outside Oct 30 13:19:14 boss is running, it gets events from obs, but I have no idea how to make it do anything useful Oct 30 13:19:21 OK ... sec Oct 30 13:20:14 and the README/INSTALL are hmmm, do not have any info either, just guiding you through installation, which is not required if you install from RPMs anyways Oct 30 13:20:20 Ok, thanks Oct 30 13:21:12 msg'ed you a pastie Oct 30 13:22:20 I'll ask if we can do this in a more open way... Oct 30 13:22:34 up 'til right now no-one has been that interested :) Oct 30 13:23:16 * lcuk has bopped you a few times recently Oct 30 13:23:30 yeah... I meant to actually implement Oct 30 13:24:06 * lcuk has been bopping you cos I want to use it :P Oct 30 13:24:18 I just read a 500 page comic mostly backwards Oct 30 13:24:20 anaZ: in general : http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote/wiki/overview Oct 30 13:25:10 CosmoHill, i didnt know memento had been made into a comic Oct 30 13:25:24 ? Oct 30 13:56:20 CosmoHill, watch the movie.read the description of it ;) Oct 30 13:58:08 niala: kick off in 7 mins Oct 30 15:20:02 hello! is there a meego channel in spanish? Oct 30 15:20:13 as i have some questions... Oct 30 15:21:38 esmirlin: try asking here. there should be some spanish speakers around Oct 30 15:21:39 fist i tried to add the comunity repository... using zypper and then i get the following message: Repository type can't be determined. Oct 30 15:22:24 the second one is that msn can't connect and i don't understad why Oct 30 15:22:51 what is the command you use when adding the repository? Oct 30 15:23:13 sudo zypper addrepo ftp://volkoff.ru/repo/meego/i386/ "Community Repo" Oct 30 15:24:26 my third question: is it possible to install google gears into meego? Oct 30 15:24:54 http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=9469&postcount=5 the only reference for that i have is this link there... he reported something similar but it didn't work out... try doing a "community" instead of "Community Repo" alhtough I doubt that will change anything Oct 30 15:25:31 meego doesn't use firefox so, nope. therei s no gears for chrome on linux unfortunately Oct 30 15:26:04 and regarding msn, no idea. Oct 30 15:26:27 th0br0: i did the community stuff and i got the same Oct 30 15:26:38 how can i deleted them btw? Oct 30 15:26:53 mh no idea then. maybe try again later once the repository has been updated. (or wait until someone with more knowledge replies). Oct 30 15:26:56 delete what? Oct 30 15:27:22 the repos i added Oct 30 15:27:23 if the repo actually had been created, have a look in /etc/zypp/repos.d Oct 30 15:27:28 s/had/has/ Oct 30 15:27:30 th0br0 meant: if the repo actually has been created, have a look in /etc/zypp/repos.d Oct 30 15:27:33 s/has/was/ Oct 30 15:27:36 ^^' Oct 30 15:29:41 ok done Oct 30 15:30:08 and have you tried msn on meego 1.1? Oct 30 15:30:30 nopr Oct 30 15:30:32 *nope Oct 30 15:30:41 hello th0br0 Oct 30 15:30:44 hello niala Oct 30 15:30:45 i get a message that i don't know translate into english... Error de red Oct 30 15:31:14 esmirlin: which app are you using for msn? Oct 30 15:31:32 the one that come with meego, empathy i think Oct 30 15:31:33 It means "network error" I believe. Oct 30 15:31:33 error de red should be connection error or so Oct 30 15:31:38 yeah milliams Oct 30 15:32:16 cause i would like to install pidgin but i don't know if it fits in the people tab Oct 30 15:35:04 jikes this channel is huge ! Oct 30 15:35:56 Anyone knows if it's easy to replace the kernel to support other hardware ? like say in in qemu to test ? Oct 30 15:36:01 so no idea of the msn problem? can anyone just try to connec in order to figure out i it's just my problem or is a general one? Oct 30 15:36:25 esmirlin: in belgium i'm here connected Oct 30 15:36:59 Qantourisc: tu parles français? c pour un privé pour t demander qqchose... g du mal avec l'anglais lol Oct 30 15:37:14 esmirlin: ca marche en belgique le msn Oct 30 15:38:12 Qantourisc: peut tu m'indiquer le "port" et le "server" que tu as dans tes options? Oct 30 15:38:22 pour msn ? Oct 30 15:38:29 oui Oct 30 15:38:40 je ne sais pas, normalement le msn client sais ... Oct 30 15:39:18 vous avez besoin de la information ? Oct 30 15:40:03 Qantourisc: alors tu peut entrer dans le menu ou tu choisis ajouter une compte et dans les options avancées de msn y a marqué le port et le server... je veux les savoir pour prouver si je les ai mal mis... Oct 30 15:40:39 d'accord je va regarder a le source de bitlbee un instant Oct 30 15:40:41 esmirlin: server methode http: gateway.messenger.hotmail.com server:messenger.hotmail.com port:1863 Oct 30 15:40:54 est aussi mes excuses pour mon francais Oct 30 15:41:00 a voilla niala a diter nous Oct 30 15:41:12 Qantourisc: t'inquète pas... chui espagnol :P Oct 30 15:42:03 it would be fun to know from where come the people on irc Oct 30 15:42:12 BE Oct 30 15:42:17 ES Oct 30 15:42:19 (Dutch) Oct 30 15:42:22 i tell people I am from Earth Oct 30 15:42:33 fr Oct 30 15:42:33 i come from the womb Oct 30 15:42:40 yes we to lcuk Oct 30 15:42:43 niala: msn works for you? Oct 30 15:43:03 esmirlin: yes Oct 30 15:43:05 niala, has anyone ever come close to realising the truth? Oct 30 15:43:46 lcuk ? Oct 30 15:44:18 still don't... i don't understand cause on meego 1.04 it worked :S Oct 30 15:44:25 x files? Oct 30 15:44:58 esmirlin: ' m on 1.1 it work Oct 30 15:45:10 is there an easy way to test-run meego ? Oct 30 15:45:26 usbstick Oct 30 15:45:34 and boot in ? Oct 30 15:45:53 or does it has a kernel with general drivers ? (then i can run it on qemu) Oct 30 15:45:53 DE actually ;) Oct 30 15:46:24 and someone guess why it can be? :S how desperated gets me linux :( Oct 30 15:46:31 Qantourisc: wich version do you want to test Oct 30 15:46:44 v1.1 ? Oct 30 15:46:57 handset, netbook, ivi Oct 30 15:46:59 ? Oct 30 15:47:20 what does ivi do ? Oct 30 15:48:34 In Vehicule Infotainment Oct 30 15:48:48 hmmm Oct 30 15:48:53 i'll quess handset and netbook Oct 30 15:48:54 for spaceship :) like star trek Oct 30 15:49:10 no actually only handset Oct 30 15:49:24 GENIVI, or as they will be known in two hundred years or so, LCARS ;) Oct 30 15:50:01 handset in a virtual environment or n900 (other correct me if I m wrong) & netbook on usbstick Qantourisc Oct 30 15:50:11 and do you know if i can connect to msn throught jabber? Oct 30 15:50:26 esmirlin: one can Oct 30 15:50:33 esmirlin: but the server needs a msn gateway installed Oct 30 15:50:37 (on the server) Oct 30 15:51:14 like messenger.hotmail.com and 1863? Oct 30 15:51:27 esmirlin: no how to explain it Oct 30 15:51:44 pk? Oct 30 15:51:57 esmirlin: the server you connect to me@somejabberserver.com Oct 30 15:52:02 CosmoHill: bad day for Readin fc Oct 30 15:52:17 the owners of somejabberserver.com need to have software installed to allow connecting to msn Oct 30 15:52:25 it started well then went very bad but now it's alright Oct 30 15:52:26 jabber/xmpp has so called 'transports' Oct 30 15:52:45 and any explaination of how to fix msn protocol? Oct 30 15:53:13 esmirlin: haven't done it yet sorry :/ usually the server's webpage explains sutch info, someone smarter then me might now though Oct 30 15:53:47 CosmoHill: oh yes 3-3 I m not updating :) Oct 30 15:56:04 i'll use video's instead :) Oct 30 16:07:51 niala: finnished 4 - 3 to Reading :D Oct 30 16:25:59 CosmoHill: champagne! Oct 30 16:26:17 :D Oct 30 16:26:52 that would bring us up two places to 6th Oct 30 16:41:29 hi. any idea why wireless interface is nto showing up in my asus 901? Oct 30 17:01:18 anybody here can help me with a question on how to install the sdk/qemu? Oct 30 17:07:57 hiya. Oct 30 17:16:36 fcrochik: have you read http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_Development_Options http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_with_QEMU Oct 30 17:20:14 niala: yes...that is what I am trying to follow. That is what I get when I try to create the target using the handset image: Can not find qt installation in meego-handset-sdk-20101012-1.1.80.20101024.1603-sda-sysroot Oct 30 17:20:15 hi, are repos for meego v1.1 populated with apps as I am unable to find openoffice suite via yum zypper or packagekit frontend ? maybe some repos are disabled by default ? Oct 30 17:20:48 hi, is there any way to speed up boot time? (thats why I chose mobilin, but my boottime droped from 16s to way more with meego and its versions...) Maybe I can use something like "-profile" at boot to shedule caching? Oct 30 17:21:24 q_: I don't think they've focused to much on quick boot times for the 1.1 release Oct 30 17:21:42 CosmoHill, to bad, i might go back to mobilin... Oct 30 17:21:44 q_, whats the boottime for you now? Oct 30 17:22:20 CosmoHill, the concentration has already been done as part of moblin ? Oct 30 17:22:48 there was a lot of focus on getting Moblins boot times as small as possible Oct 30 17:23:01 lcuk, 20 seconds to login and another 20 seconds to mutter (but now I have encryption enabled (which should encrypt onle the home folder, but maybe all needs to be decrypted?)) Oct 30 17:23:28 q_, so it was 16 seconds to mutter before? Oct 30 17:23:43 or 16 seconds to login Oct 30 17:23:44 yes, but without encryption and login i have to admit Oct 30 17:24:05 if it was 16seconds to login dialog Oct 30 17:24:07 16 to mutter Oct 30 17:24:11 it doesnt sound like a drastic regression Oct 30 17:24:15 how did you login? Oct 30 17:24:24 i think it logged in automatically Oct 30 17:24:27 q_: could you run the bootchart program? Oct 30 17:24:43 q_: on my friend's toshiba nb100 with moblin 2.1, boot time from power on to moblin desktop is 18 sec (hdd) Oct 30 17:24:55 CosmoHill, i had problems with it in moblin, does it run OOTB in Meego 1.1? Oct 30 17:25:08 OOTB? Oct 30 17:25:15 out of the box Oct 30 17:25:36 I don't think bootchartd would come pre-installed on Meego as it's a development tool Oct 30 17:25:45 but you should be able to install it via the package manager Oct 30 17:26:03 ok... I had problems with another lib back than.... Oct 30 17:34:12 ohh facebook disappeared from status-panel ? Oct 30 17:37:17 CosmoHill, bootchart works :) is gnome.screensav supposed to eat a lot of CPU on startup? Oct 30 17:37:34 I don't see why it should Oct 30 17:37:45 most people don't need a screen saver when booting Oct 30 17:38:28 I'll see what heappens when i disable the screensaver (dont need it anyway) Oct 30 17:39:11 why are the settings in "accessories" not in "system" ? Oct 30 17:39:58 q_: I have no idea but it sounds like a bug Oct 30 17:43:06 CosmoHill, the screensaver is also the screenlocker = login window Oct 30 17:43:22 so it's really the decryption that takes 8-9s Oct 30 17:43:27 :/ Oct 30 17:47:44 ok, so how can i disable encryption without reinstalling everything? Oct 30 17:48:05 at the very lease you're going to have to format something Oct 30 17:48:27 a new user maybe? Oct 30 17:48:50 is it /home or /home/user that is encrypted? Oct 30 17:48:55 ompossible I guess ^^oh dear, i will just reinstall Oct 30 17:48:57 i dont know Oct 30 17:56:33 hey guys, i just have a question Oct 30 17:56:47 it is possible to install meego as dual-boot ? Oct 30 17:56:53 using multi-boot ? Oct 30 17:56:54 yes Oct 30 17:56:57 uhm Oct 30 17:56:58 how ? Oct 30 17:57:02 i dont wknow, what is multiboot? Oct 30 17:57:14 yes Oct 30 17:57:16 is an package from maemo Oct 30 17:57:22 how is a much harder question Oct 30 17:57:31 i had nitdroid as dualboot Oct 30 17:57:32 hahaha Oct 30 17:57:35 sfriqueu, so you have a mobile device? Oct 30 17:57:36 first of all, x86 or n900? Oct 30 17:57:37 CosmoHill, Oct 30 17:57:40 yeah Oct 30 17:57:42 n900 Oct 30 17:57:49 sorry, my bad Oct 30 17:57:51 yes that can be dual booted Oct 30 17:57:55 I'm a netbook user only, sry i cant help :) Oct 30 17:58:02 CosmoHill, how ? Oct 30 17:58:06 as you said Oct 30 17:58:08 much harder hahaha Oct 30 17:58:12 So, what about qemu-gl on debian? Oct 30 17:58:20 i so in the website Oct 30 17:58:24 i can use the flasher Oct 30 17:58:46 but once i reboot, i can't get it again, only if i flashe again right ? Oct 30 17:59:05 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC Oct 30 18:01:00 i read this Oct 30 18:01:07 bu not for 1.1, let me ready again Oct 30 18:01:10 i read that while ago Oct 30 18:02:22 they say, not reocmede to flash the kernel on device Oct 30 18:04:15 CosmoHill, have you did it ? Oct 30 18:06:13 hi, anyone know why my n900's stuck on waiting for root device? Oct 30 18:07:05 sfriqueu: no. I don't own a n900 Oct 30 18:07:20 those instrus are pretty much the same i read Oct 30 18:07:30 but i would like have it dualboot, but seens to dangers Oct 30 18:09:24 sfriqueu: http://blip.tv/file/4296208 Oct 30 18:10:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PQDZypO-5Y&feature=player_embedded Oct 30 18:10:46 oh to late Oct 30 18:11:40 s/to/too Oct 30 18:11:50 hmm, that's the same video Oct 30 18:12:19 litterary, someone has downloaded the video I linked to and uploaded it to youtube Oct 30 18:14:17 CosmoHill: will nexts phones better than a n900? It's possible? Oct 30 18:15:11 I hesitate to buy one Oct 30 18:17:50 try them out at the shop and read reviews Oct 30 18:18:42 um, torrents for the SDK images would be nice. I'm getting only ~100 kb/sec here.. Oct 30 18:18:54 I think better to wait christmas, but one day n900 will not be product . I don't know Oct 30 18:19:19 one day the n900 will be a cheap phone you got off ebay for your kids Oct 30 18:19:30 but for now it's £480 Oct 30 18:19:37 right lol Oct 30 18:19:58 that's why I hesitate, Oct 30 18:20:45 I wait for un an hologram-phone Oct 30 18:21:05 Nokia should be announcing their MeeGo handsets in Q1 2011 Oct 30 18:21:18 yeah, right, i'll wait for a tricorder. Oct 30 18:21:34 I'd like a face to face conversation Oct 30 18:21:47 nokia is sooo late. The markets exploded about a year ago. Oct 30 18:22:01 riot: what market and what country? Oct 30 18:22:02 I doubt that the next will be better than n900 .. wait and see like say english people :) Oct 30 18:22:39 just because it's next doesn't mean it's the successor Oct 30 18:23:05 that reminds me, my friend has a Nokia 5500 and Nokia Esomething which got sent to his house Oct 30 18:23:18 but he didn't buy them and nobody has paid for them Oct 30 18:23:20 CosmoHill: ah the futur is not better in our world? lol Oct 30 18:23:21 CosmoHill: if i knew. I still run with an old e51. But around me everyone either owns stupid, locked up and scary iphones or creepy google devices. Oct 30 18:23:36 and my n810 won't run meego, afaik. Oct 30 18:24:34 erm Oct 30 18:24:44 there's something about for the n8x0 Oct 30 18:24:47 is there any reason why the sdk takes 2 hours to download? Oct 30 18:24:57 yes, you're ISP hate you Oct 30 18:25:01 CosmoHill: aw, c'mon.. 400 mhz without _ANY_ gl Oct 30 18:25:11 CosmoHill: i doubt that. Strongly. Oct 30 18:25:32 my isp even gave me 2 mbits more than promised. Oct 30 18:25:44 mine gave me -6 Oct 30 18:25:47 and, no, i'm not torrenting. Oct 30 18:25:59 but if i were, i'd do 8 mbits. Oct 30 18:26:04 do you want to link me to the file you are downloading? Oct 30 18:26:22 http://download3.meego.com/sep09/meego-netbook-ia32-1.0.80.12.20100727.1-sdk-pre0901.raw.tar.bz2 Oct 30 18:26:23 riot, 400mhz is more than enough cpu power to get man to the moon :P Oct 30 18:26:39 lcuk: yah, i know. But not enough for making a phone call, apparently. Oct 30 18:26:48 and diablo + telescope shows that 3d isnt essential Oct 30 18:27:01 riot, sure it is, its more cpu power than most phones Oct 30 18:27:04 lcuk: and thats the same for almost every "smartphone" manufacturer out there Oct 30 18:27:04 250 kb/s Oct 30 18:27:25 4MB/s Oct 30 18:27:26 :) Oct 30 18:27:28 so, meego has some weird peerings. Their isp hate them, not me. Oct 30 18:27:40 or maybe they hate mine Oct 30 18:28:08 gone down to 1.4MB/s Oct 30 18:28:08 CosmoHill: normal you are closer :) Oct 30 18:28:16 now 3 Oct 30 18:28:30 my connection goes via paris Oct 30 18:28:31 yes, on my server in Frankfurt i get 1,8 mb/s.. thats mean :( Oct 30 18:28:57 hmm. whatever. The SDK's probably not running away. Oct 30 18:29:01 millibit per second, that's horrible! Oct 30 18:29:12 CosmoHill: well maybe I can stop downloading my holiday movies :) Oct 30 18:29:35 riot: as soon as I'm finished I'll mirror it Oct 30 18:29:36 does meego use network-manager? Oct 30 18:29:38 bouh ;) 150kbs Oct 30 18:29:45 quitte: comman Oct 30 18:30:11 ?? Oct 30 18:30:11 CosmoHill: torrents would be nice. At least for the lesser often published netbook image Oct 30 18:30:36 well, it's an hold image no ? Oct 30 18:30:39 when i have it, i'm gonna put up one. Oct 30 18:31:01 I'm an idiot Oct 30 18:31:13 (nobody agree with that!) Oct 30 18:31:15 oh my, don't write that. :( Oct 30 18:31:22 CosmoHill: lol why Oct 30 18:31:24 riot: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/ Oct 30 18:31:44 oh wait now Oct 30 18:31:54 CosmoHill: i'm not sure. was comman a name of a package or something? Oct 30 18:32:23 CosmoHill: did you try smeegol ? Oct 30 18:32:23 connman? Oct 30 18:32:24 CosmoHill: same speed ;) Oct 30 18:32:50 niala: yes it's odd Oct 30 18:33:19 the graphics screw up sometimes, other times it won't work at all and sometimes it logs you out straight away Oct 30 18:33:19 odd? Oct 30 18:33:28 ok Oct 30 18:33:38 I have to drop into command line sometimes Oct 30 18:33:59 hmm. so connman basically reimplements network-manager? Oct 30 18:34:29 replace (I'm right?) Oct 30 18:34:44 why? Oct 30 18:35:53 niala: I think you're right Oct 30 18:36:55 quitte: good question, I am glad that you ask Oct 30 18:37:49 * CosmoHill watches niala frantically google Oct 30 18:38:39 looking at the about connman webpage i don't see anything that makes connman more suitable for embedded devices or even what the difference to nm is. Oct 30 18:39:15 * niala wait for a hologram-translator_live-phone Oct 30 18:39:37 quitte: I think it's about devel network-manager too complicated Oct 30 18:39:45 there was discussion about that in the spring at the Collaboration Summit but I forgot what Oct 30 18:39:52 something like a R2-PO? Oct 30 18:40:21 well I know R2d2 but no R2-PO :) Oct 30 18:40:33 C3PO. the translator part Oct 30 18:40:58 :) Oct 30 18:51:22 hey slaine Oct 30 19:02:24 oooh meego changes your screen orientation using the accelerometer Oct 30 19:02:26 nice Oct 30 19:03:11 very slow though... could that be because its running off an SD card? Oct 30 19:03:50 sgx drivers need upgrade, we're blocked by a crash bug so cant integrate yet Oct 30 19:04:21 has anyone benchmarked IO performace on internal and external memory? Oct 30 19:04:43 Stskeeps, please get whatever infoand sources you have documented Oct 30 19:09:21 hmm Oct 30 19:09:53 how do i shutdown in meego? =/ the power button does nothing and i dont know the password to do sudo poweroff Oct 30 19:10:02 n900? Oct 30 19:10:16 yup Oct 30 19:10:45 hold down power button for quite a while Oct 30 19:10:51 it is longer than on maemo Oct 30 19:11:03 ah yeah there it goes Oct 30 19:11:04 cheers Oct 30 20:02:43 I swear firefox has a problem with history disappearing Oct 30 20:41:38 is it possible to install open office in new meego v 1.1 I can't find it via yum or zypper Oct 30 20:41:41 thank you Oct 30 20:41:55 vum shouldn't even be avaiable Oct 30 20:41:56 You may be looking for libreoffice Oct 30 20:44:07 libreoffice is available in meego repos ? Oct 30 21:08:26 Hello Mates. I've downloaded meego.img and used it with image-writer for writing the USB. Now after changing the BIOS my EeePC can boot the Stick. In the Bootmenue i'm choosing "Boot Meego". Then starts the Kernel but now it breaks. He says "/dev/loop2 can't read superblock". Has anyone an Idea how to fix this? Oct 30 21:15:04 saigkill: hmm Oct 30 21:16:52 CosmoHill: I've searched already with Google, found 2 Threads, but no solution... Oct 30 21:17:12 do you have another USB device to you put meego on? Oct 30 21:17:20 saigkill: try a different usb stick Oct 30 21:17:25 CosmoHill: :D Oct 30 21:17:28 :p Oct 30 21:17:29 that's one suggestion Oct 30 21:17:37 hey sofar Oct 30 21:17:44 ohai indeed :) Oct 30 21:17:47 also, try starting the installer (but don't install if you don't want) to see if it loads Oct 30 21:18:05 third, run a checksum on the download Oct 30 21:18:10 some other idea ... yeah, the checksum Oct 30 21:18:20 i'd go for 3) and if that doesn't work out for 1) Oct 30 21:18:34 The Bootmenue works, so i think that the Stick are okay... Oct 30 21:18:43 not necessarily. Oct 30 21:19:03 the bootmenue are just some 512kb ... there could be some bad memory banks somewhere Oct 30 21:19:11 try running some fsck on the stick... Oct 30 21:19:39 it's unlikely he has btrfsck Oct 30 21:20:27 ok. I'll try it out Oct 30 21:20:54 sofar: oh the image uses btrfs ? mmh true then. Oct 30 21:21:48 actually Oct 30 21:22:02 there's a squashfs volume inside a ext3 fs Oct 30 21:22:07 so, fsck should work Oct 30 21:22:24 k Oct 30 21:26:29 which connection manager is used in maemo? Oct 30 21:26:36 icd2 Oct 30 21:26:44 it's nokia proprietary Oct 30 21:26:57 its open now, right? Oct 30 21:27:01 dunno Oct 30 21:27:10 If I was them I wouldn't open it Oct 30 21:27:10 ok, thanks Oct 30 21:27:20 lol, why? Oct 30 21:27:25 because, in my personal opinion, it works better than any connection manager I've seen so far Oct 30 21:27:34 so it's actually an advantage, a good thing Oct 30 21:28:02 Relative to the big pile of closed software that's worse than open source alternatives :-) Oct 30 21:28:09 imo, thats a first reason for opening it Oct 30 21:28:55 like, first encounter with Maemo, Maemo 4 chinook, I entered two wireless APs with the same static IP Oct 30 21:29:31 opensauce Network Manager was just like "Static ip? What's that lol!? Here, let me just pick a new random IP every time you sneeze" Oct 30 21:31:30 icd in comparison is awesome, it seamlessly switches between the two APs that cover my house, without changing IPs, without dropping connections Oct 30 21:31:34 :D Oct 30 21:32:53 seems like it is still closed-source Oct 30 21:33:11 I'm hoping connman will be somewhat less braindead than Connection Manager and probably somewhat more braindamaged than icd2 :/ Oct 30 21:33:27 not hoping it'd be more braindamaged, of course, I'm just a pessimist Oct 30 21:35:09 looking at the connman sources makes me a bit optimistic Oct 30 21:35:52 hey arjan Oct 30 21:36:07 but, hell, it still doesn't supports adhoc wifi-s Oct 30 21:36:23 lol Oct 30 21:36:59 if (g_strcmp0(type, "wifi") != 0 || g_strcmp0(mode, "managed") != 0) Oct 30 21:37:00 return -EOPNOTSUPP; Oct 30 21:37:11 bye Oct 30 21:38:26 rittk: it would be nice if Nokia would invest some time in connman as well Oct 30 21:39:09 well, with icd out of the way, i'd hope so too.. Oct 30 21:39:10 icd didn't support adhoc out of the box actually :/ Oct 30 21:39:57 And there's a case for making ad-hoc "difficult" Oct 30 21:40:06 it consumes enormous amounts of power Oct 30 21:40:10 Error found :-) It was a Error with the copying to the Stick. After using dd it was ready. Thanks for helping Oct 30 21:41:22 > icd didn't support adhoc out of the box actually :/ Oct 30 21:41:24 so, how it works in my n900 out of the box? Oct 30 21:41:44 Creating or connecting to? Oct 30 21:41:57 connecting Oct 30 21:42:23 didn't try to create one Oct 30 21:42:42 hi all Oct 30 21:48:45 lol, commit with a message "Ignore WiFi networks with IBSS (adhoc mode)" Oct 30 21:48:53 why ignore? Oct 30 21:48:59 is there an issue? Oct 30 21:49:10 does that fixes something? Oct 30 21:49:17 stupid someone... Oct 30 22:42:04 hi Oct 30 22:42:54 looking for some images/pictures from meego, for print. couldn't really find anything in that direction. Oct 30 22:44:55 any hints? Oct 30 22:57:45 look on the wiki Oct 30 23:04:48 and where in the wiki? can't really find a useful page there easer. Oct 30 23:23:49 http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/meego-1.1-release Oct 30 23:24:05 click on any of the pictures for more screen shots Oct 30 23:25:45 I know the person who took some of those screenshots is english :) Oct 30 23:30:17 * CosmoHill pokes DawnFoster1 Oct 30 23:34:19 hi Oct 30 23:34:23 hello Oct 30 23:34:42 salut niala Oct 30 23:35:11 any news when we will have official update with dual boot on n900 maemo+meego? Oct 30 23:35:23 CosmoHill: un nouveau jour commence :) Oct 30 23:35:42 oui :) Oct 30 23:36:15 dimitris82: there's some stuff on the wiki about i Oct 30 23:36:16 it Oct 30 23:36:44 dimitris82: It's in project ? Oct 30 23:36:59 i have saw them about two days ago is it updated? Oct 30 23:37:08 ok Oct 30 23:37:19 CosmoHill Oct 30 23:37:32 thanks, but is this stuff ready for print? resolution and so. Oct 30 23:37:32 hey Oct 30 23:37:45 I can't find any high resolution pictures Oct 30 23:37:47 its great, that its not jpg :) Oct 30 23:37:52 I will ask about them soon Oct 30 23:38:05 I have another problem with some of the pictures I want to sort out first Oct 30 23:38:11 k Oct 30 23:38:20 * CosmoHill pokes Stskeeps and auke Oct 30 23:39:13 time to drink a soup Oct 31 00:42:33 where are the meego-panel-devel package? Oct 31 00:42:45 s/are/is/ Oct 31 00:42:46 rittk meant: where is the meego-panel-devel package? Oct 31 00:43:19 lol Oct 31 00:43:28 :-) Oct 31 00:43:32 s/lol/stupid bot/ Oct 31 00:43:32 rittk meant: stupid bot Oct 31 00:43:45 oh, thiago Oct 31 00:43:52 hey ritt Oct 31 00:44:25 good what_time_of_day_you_have_there Oct 31 00:44:37 afternoon Oct 31 00:44:51 you might know - what is the qdbus (tool) input parameters format? Oct 31 00:45:03 I need to call SomeMethod(a{sv}) Oct 31 00:48:35 ACTION started to build meego-panel-network and got Oct 31 00:48:36 ACTION > checking for MPL... configure: error: Package requirements (meego-panel >= 0.49.0) were not met: Oct 31 00:48:38 ACTION > No package 'meego-panel' found Oct 31 00:48:39 ACTION  Oct 31 00:48:49 ACTION started to build meego-panel-network and got Oct 31 00:48:50 ACTION  Oct 31 00:48:57 wtf Oct 31 00:50:10 but there is no mpl or meego-panel or meego-panel-devel package! Oct 31 00:51:38 thiago: where are you? still in US? Oct 31 01:04:10 still in the US Oct 31 01:04:12 until Friday Oct 31 01:04:41 :( Oct 31 01:04:51 I miss you Oct 31 01:05:07 convince someone else to review those patches Oct 31 01:05:22 who? Lars?) Oct 31 01:05:26 he ignores me Oct 31 01:05:39 Simon? Oct 31 01:05:39 he's more busy than I am Oct 31 01:05:40 same there Oct 31 01:05:54 simon should be able to find time Oct 31 01:06:00 * thiago now needs to go have dinner Oct 31 01:06:01 see ya Oct 31 01:06:20 so busy that unable to answer during a 6 months? Oct 31 01:06:24 cya Oct 31 02:40:35 what , sthe structure of meego? Oct 31 02:42:00 i mean what environment is user app in? linux? or some vm? Oct 31 02:43:11 hm? Oct 31 02:43:15 it's standard linux Oct 31 02:43:57 ???????? Oct 31 02:44:07 IE not some special VM or whatnot Oct 31 02:44:14 anyone awake? Oct 31 02:44:47 yes, can you not see what I'm typing or something? Oct 31 02:47:35 icesword, it use IgniramOS Oct 31 02:48:47 wmarone, some ppl can :P Oct 31 02:48:56 sorry I'm on nokia 5230 Oct 31 02:49:00 I certainly hope so :) Oct 31 02:49:27 it's slow Oct 31 02:51:01 icesword, upgrade, the n900 doesn't often have lag :) Oct 31 02:51:46 so user apps eg .rpm is running in linux runtime? Oct 31 02:51:50 is that youare saying? Oct 31 02:52:17 icesword, it runs ontop of x11. Oct 31 02:53:11 x11? vm? Oct 31 02:53:52 windowing/event subsystem, most windowing desktops on linux run on it and many toolkits sit ontop of it Oct 31 02:54:23 android sucks? doesn't it? Oct 31 02:55:02 wouldnt know, i have enough real toys this side to keep me from getting distracted with virtual machines Oct 31 02:55:08 it,s on a vm Oct 31 02:59:35 N900?! dear, it's too expensive **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 31 02:59:58 2010