**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 02 02:59:57 2010 Nov 02 06:17:06 "ImportError: No module named worker.worker" who encounted the problem when try to start ots.worker? Nov 02 06:19:32 anybody can give me some comments? Nov 02 06:20:41 Is your problem in dev or production?, don't know what worker is, but have you installed it in your project. Nov 02 06:28:45 oops sorry wrong chanel - Nov 02 06:34:45 wangjan: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/QA-tools/OTS/UserDocumentation/Installation#Worker Nov 02 06:35:53 you can also consult the ots developers in #meego-qa-tools (after they wake up) Nov 02 06:40:18 they are woken =) Nov 02 06:43:05 zutesmog, i have setup the ots server and also setup the worker eviroment according the ots installation from wiki, Nov 02 06:43:33 when i start the worker, it pops up the error from my pc Nov 02 06:46:28 wangjan: I really recommend this #meego-qa-tools Nov 02 06:47:14 Tumi, yes , so you can give me some help> Nov 02 06:47:40 I'm not the best one but the other guys there Nov 02 06:47:50 E-P might know Nov 02 06:48:49 is he at here? Nov 02 06:51:44 not sure Nov 02 06:52:31 is there problem joining the channel? Nov 02 07:00:57 I encourage using specialized channels whenever possible not to flood the general ones :) Nov 02 08:06:14 Hi, is it possible make phone calls in N900 with Meego 1.1 installed to it? Nov 02 08:07:40 yes, if you have a PIN-less sim card Nov 02 08:28:15 hello all Nov 02 08:28:57 I'm having issues with my eeepc 1000H and meego. it seems that meego somehow work recognize my wlan card Nov 02 08:29:28 it's turned on in bios and os but i can't find any networks Nov 02 08:55:38 hmm, I'm trying to boot meego on n900 according to #meego at irc.freenode.net but device hangs after showing "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p1" in console. Well, It not hangs - cursor is blinking - but noting happens. Is it as it should be? Nov 02 08:56:08 put your back cover on Nov 02 08:56:46 Stskeeps, did it before booting.. Nov 02 09:10:32 erani: what does it say for HWaddr if you open a Terminal and type "ifconfig wlan0" ? Nov 02 09:10:59 erani: if it is the same problem that I had on EeePC 901 then this forum thread might be helpful: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1756 Nov 02 09:15:30 Sazius: all zero's Nov 02 09:17:42 hmm, but ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't work Nov 02 09:17:46 even with sudo Nov 02 09:18:01 hmm, I was just going to suggest that Nov 02 09:18:03 strange Nov 02 09:18:36 something about SI0CSIFFLAGS Nov 02 09:18:55 if you read that forum thread further there is the same issue for some people Nov 02 09:19:42 this seemed to help: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=12139&postcount=36 Nov 02 09:20:58 but check the forum thread... Nov 02 09:22:12 oh, ok. :) sorry, i'm on my n900 in a lecture so trying to focjus on both assistant and irc is rather challenging Nov 02 09:22:24 -j Nov 02 09:25:47 thanks, i'll look into that Nov 02 09:25:48 ok, good luck :) Nov 02 09:40:00 i now got wlan0 if up but can't see any networks O.o Nov 02 09:58:37 oh, just adding the ifconfig wlan0 up to rc.sysinit fixed the problem as was described in the first page. thank you :) Nov 02 09:59:09 great! :) Nov 02 10:53:38 this is strange anyway, could not boot meego on n900. After flashing kernel to device it starts to wait for /dev/mmcblk0p1 and do nothing. What could be the reason for this? Nov 02 10:54:13 back cover not on or you wrote the image in a bad way Nov 02 11:27:33 hi all, is it possible to install meego on a ARM based tablet? Nov 02 11:29:19 eurisko: That really depends on what you want. Nov 02 11:30:22 okay, let me explain, i want to develop an application to work with gps. For that i need a hardware plataform with a touchscreen and portable. So i found those cheap arm tablets from china Nov 02 11:31:00 eurisko: What cpu is in there exactly? Nov 02 11:31:03 they cost arround 160$ , my question is if it's possible to install meego into it Nov 02 11:31:10 let me see Nov 02 11:31:44 ZT180 1.06GHZ ARM Nov 02 11:32:08 ZT ZeniThink Nov 02 11:33:16 That seems to be an armv6 cpu. Nov 02 11:33:44 Which means it is not supported by MeeGo. Nov 02 11:34:11 That doesn't mean you can't use MeeGo on it, but you'd need to recompile for armv6 yourself. Nov 02 11:34:13 yes it is Nov 02 11:34:37 what arm cores are supported by meego, is there any page where i can read about it? Nov 02 11:34:40 "The Zenithink ZT-180 is powered by an ARM Cortex A8 1GHz processor" Nov 02 11:34:51 no phellarv it's a lie Nov 02 11:34:56 Is it? Nov 02 11:35:03 they try to sell it as it a armv8 Nov 02 11:35:08 arm a8 Nov 02 11:35:12 but it isn't Nov 02 11:35:19 eurisko: On #meego-arm, Stskeeps was looking into armv6 support. Nov 02 11:35:49 eurisko: Aaah - Found it: http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/other-platforms/406-zenithink-zt-180-specifications-faking-not-armv7-a8-cortex.html Nov 02 11:35:53 phellarv: That seems to be an overhyped lie. Nov 02 11:35:56 there is a thread here , wait http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/other-platforms/406-zenithink-zt-180-specifications-faking-not-armv7-a8-cortex.html Nov 02 11:36:01 that one Nov 02 11:36:10 ;-P Nov 02 11:36:35 x-fade what means overhyped? Nov 02 11:37:00 They inflated their specs it seems :) Nov 02 11:37:10 oh yes they did :D Nov 02 11:37:21 but now they are seeling them cheap because of the bad fame Nov 02 12:06:29 is there an easy way to search for file in the entire meego source code tree? Nov 02 12:06:50 or an easy way do download everything Nov 02 12:07:00 rsync the src.rpms :P Nov 02 12:09:37 Stskeeps, i am not familiar with rsync. How would you use it to get all the source code at http://meego.gitorious.org/ *? Nov 02 12:09:51 well, i would just grab it from the repo.meego.com Nov 02 12:10:07 kt_: what are you looking for, there's probably a better way to narrow it down Nov 02 12:12:14 i am looking for a header file called accessories.h or actually i am looking for the file where input_dev_t is defined Nov 02 12:14:38 slaine_, i am trying to figure out how the jack sensing is implemented Nov 02 12:14:50 meego 1.0 or 1.1 Nov 02 12:15:08 didn't think jack was on meego Nov 02 12:15:15 slaine_: meego 1.0 for now. Nov 02 12:15:24 grand, you can do Nov 02 12:15:36 yum whatprovides */accessories.h Nov 02 12:16:01 that'll tell you what rpms offer it Nov 02 12:16:10 slaine, not "jack" but the sensing of whether headphones are plugged in or not Nov 02 12:18:00 * CosmoHill gives slaine_ a cup of tea Nov 02 12:18:33 Thanks CosmoHill, was about to get one before I head off later Nov 02 12:19:27 slaine, i have tried running "yum whatprovides */accessories.h" on the meego pc. no results Nov 02 12:20:07 is the meego source code tree really searched by yum? Nov 02 12:21:01 package content index, more likely Nov 02 12:21:17 Any packages that have a non-private api will generate a -devel rpm Nov 02 12:21:22 i think that should be able to use repo to download the complete source code tree for meego but i don't know how to do it Nov 02 12:21:38 so headers etc. would be there Nov 02 12:22:32 slaine_, ok but the meego source code tree is hardly contained in a package? Nov 02 12:22:45 kt_: rsync should be the best tool for that; you won't get an unpacked source tree (a'la BSD) but you do get all the .src.rpm files in addition to binaries Nov 02 12:22:47 you're talking about a private api then Nov 02 12:23:22 So where did you get accessories.h from ? Nov 02 12:24:18 Or you could write a simple script that gets a list of all the rpms installed on your system and then does a 'yumdownloader --source ' Nov 02 12:24:43 * slaine_ needs to learn all the zypper equivilants Nov 02 12:24:58 zypper help Nov 02 12:25:14 on a side note that's the only zypper command that works on non-SSSE3 Nov 02 12:26:55 slaine_, I am looking in http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/ohm, in wired.c the header file is included. There are so many projects that I can't download them all one by one. Nov 02 12:27:17 that's what you asked how to do Nov 02 12:27:50 slaine_, no i want to dowload all the source code for meego (all projects) in one go Nov 02 12:28:16 like repo init -u git:somethingwithmeego Nov 02 12:28:20 repo sync Nov 02 12:30:41 there's a difference between all the source code for meego and all the gitorious.org hosted projects that are under the meego section Nov 02 12:31:28 Stskeeps: is maemo-multimedia even used on the handset-ux ? Nov 02 12:31:51 which parts? Nov 02 12:31:51 :P Nov 02 12:31:59 slaine_, i use the netbook version Nov 02 12:32:39 kt_: you're looking at handheld maemo code though, afaik Nov 02 12:34:01 your audio driver would probably issue a kevent if it honored the switch you're talking about. Nov 02 12:34:25 slaine_, i need to figure out how to do jack sensing, i am just looking in the code for inspiration and to copy-paste some parts Nov 02 12:34:43 ok Nov 02 12:34:51 that's plagiarism, not inspiration ;) Nov 02 12:35:18 anyway, I'm off for that cuppa/lunch. Hope to be back later for the CO meeting Nov 02 12:35:24 laters Nov 02 12:36:07 hi Nov 02 12:36:35 smoku: are you tomasz from the arm-linux-msm mailing list ? Nov 02 12:37:03 dcordes, Tomasz Sterna. yes Nov 02 12:38:02 smoku: nice Nov 02 12:38:55 smoku: it is hard to find out what you are basing on when looking at http://gitorious.org/streak Nov 02 12:39:22 smoku: I would like to add more documentation here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Streak Nov 02 12:41:30 smoku: I would like to add Leo (HTC HD2) in the qualcomm kernels Nov 02 12:41:36 smoku: so we have a similar aim Nov 02 12:49:14 dcordes, because we (as the dell streak development community) do not know what we are basing at Nov 02 12:49:58 dcordes, dell just domped some source at us ( http://opensource.dell.com/releases/streak/ ) with close to zero additional information Nov 02 12:50:03 smoku: I am talking about the kernel branch. does the dell streak development community have a website? Nov 02 12:50:42 smoku: you are very welcvome to join #htc-linux . we do a lot with qsd8xxxx Nov 02 12:51:01 thanks for the link I will add it in the htc-linux wiki Nov 02 12:51:18 dcordes, their kernels have 2.6.29 version encoded. but when you look at it there is a lot of code from .31 and .35 in these sources Nov 02 12:51:49 dcordes, so it's a mixup of code from different kernel versions Nov 02 12:52:01 ok Nov 02 12:52:21 and the gitorious branch is that kernel from dell ? Nov 02 12:52:21 dcordes, we do not have a website. we mostly talk at #dellstreak here at freenode Nov 02 12:52:30 you should really add it in the gitorious descriptio Nov 02 12:52:35 ok Nov 02 12:52:51 feel free to document anythin in the htc-linux wiki, as it is full of qualcomm Nov 02 12:53:09 dcordes, which branch? dell-* branches are code imports from dell. the rest are my attempts to port dell changes to msm-2.6.35 branch from codeaurora Nov 02 12:55:27 I added some stuff about streak in the htc-linux.org wiki at http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Streak Nov 02 12:55:41 wrong channel, sorry Nov 02 12:56:07 alright thanks Nov 02 13:13:16 Hi all, I try to run application in MeeGo/N900 which takes RSS feed from internet. Problem is that I can't type WIFI wpa key as n900 keyboard types what ever. Now the wpa key is saved somewhere in the settings but I can't find how to edit it.. Any clues? Or do I have to just write the whole image again to SD card? Nov 02 13:16:33 I created new connection when mistyped my key Nov 02 13:17:39 so you just added the network with "Add" page and retyped it? Nov 02 13:17:44 yep Nov 02 13:18:21 I have numbers in my wpa key, and when I try to write numbers with the keyboard, it goes crazy and types what ever... Nov 02 13:20:27 weird, slow but working here Nov 02 13:23:47 im using the 1.1 handset ux from meego.com Nov 02 13:24:24 same here Nov 02 13:28:09 Hello, been trying to get MeeGo SDK working on Ubuntu 10.10 and when I start qemu it always gets stuck on this part http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9716/meegob.png , anyone got an idea whats wrong? Nov 02 13:31:13 back-2-95: can you type numbers somewhere else correctly? Nov 02 13:36:11 I rebooted 2 times and it got better... Nov 02 13:42:05 What is happening with daily builds when there is only an image available, but not the repos? Is this an error condition somehow? Nov 02 13:42:43 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.4.20101029.1/ does not have repos, but http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.3.20101026.1/ does. Nov 02 13:48:43 am i correct in saying that moblin-panel has been replaced with meego-panel which is provided by mutter-meego? Nov 02 14:03:39 what is the name of the meego 1.2 release like maemo was fremantle ? Can that be known ? Nov 02 14:04:06 we didn't have a name for 1.1 or 1.0 Nov 02 14:04:13 so it's likely 1.2 doesn't have one Nov 02 14:04:29 public yet :P Nov 02 14:04:44 i don't know of one, public or not Nov 02 15:01:37 is it good or bad that I removed two heat sinks in two minutes and both had processors attached Nov 02 15:03:55 CosmoHill, not usually, were the computers powered up though? Nov 02 15:04:03 nope Nov 02 15:04:27 I went to remove the fan off one, found it was in fact the heatsink lock then realised the processor had come out too Nov 02 15:04:41 eek Nov 02 15:05:03 then spent 2 mins swearing at it cos the heat sink got stuck and I couldn't remove it from the case Nov 02 15:05:05 CosmoHill, the amount of force required to attack heatsink to cpu nowadays is silly Nov 02 15:05:12 attach Nov 02 15:05:19 both are pentium4 Nov 02 15:05:42 i remember the tomshardware thing about removing heatsink from intels and amds Nov 02 15:05:43 I'd only fitted one of them 5 mins ago Nov 02 15:05:45 was amazing to see Nov 02 15:05:51 yeah I remember that Nov 02 15:06:12 caused a change in the amd chipset from what I recall Nov 02 15:06:23 my plan was to swap my bros heat sink and put the old fan on the new one Nov 02 15:06:32 CosmoHill, you do know that using superglue as a heatsink compound is not normal Nov 02 15:06:45 in the process I broke the old fan mount and couldn't fit the old fan to the new one cos of the screws Nov 02 15:07:22 it's a great way to make sure you have contact between the heatsink and processor Nov 02 15:20:51 hey DawnFoster Nov 02 15:21:03 hey CosmoHill Nov 02 15:23:22 morning DawnFoster \o Nov 02 15:40:19 TuesdayTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtPb8g8Jl6I Nov 02 17:04:13 Hello, been trying to get MeeGo SDK working on Ubuntu 10.10 and when I start qemu it always gets stuck on this part http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9716/meegob.png , anyone got an idea whats wrong? Nov 02 17:34:21 Hey guys, I have a quick (dumb) question. I have Meego running using a USB mouse. I see the mouse just fine in normal X, but using uxlaunch with duihome I cannot see the mouse. Where can I tell uxlaunch/duihome my mouse device? Nov 02 17:55:31 omnomnom chocolate Nov 02 17:59:37 who has a netbook with ralink wireless (e.g. asus eee pc) that runs 1.1 and has issues? Nov 02 18:04:16 X-Fade: ping Nov 02 18:04:20 lbt: ping Nov 02 18:04:52 auke: pong? Nov 02 18:04:58 testing testing from Qt Developer Days 1h before Community Office IRC meeting :) Nov 02 18:05:12 qgil: loud and clear :) Nov 02 18:06:20 qgil: let's see if the wifi holds out Nov 02 18:07:16 well, the meeting is at lunch time (which can be good, or can be bad) Nov 02 18:07:35 thiago: definitely bad for my stomach :) Nov 02 18:12:32 qgil: it's an irc meeting, having laptop in one hand and a sandwich in the other isn't visible ;) Nov 02 18:12:53 X-Fade: crepo.meego.com Nov 02 18:13:13 X-Fade: lbt pointed to you when I asked him why my personal repo wasn't publishing Nov 02 18:13:18 Stskeeps: disapearing 10 minutes to grab the food and come back might be noticeable - but I'll manage Nov 02 18:13:21 hehe Nov 02 18:13:22 auke: Dat heb ik gefixt :) Nov 02 18:13:33 ok Nov 02 18:13:39 gatver, nog een hollander Nov 02 18:13:47 lastig he ;) Nov 02 18:13:57 http://crepo.meego.com/home%3a/ -> no auke Nov 02 18:13:59 But it only publishes on rebuild. Nov 02 18:14:02 oh Nov 02 18:14:08 so I have to force a rebuild? Nov 02 18:14:32 Yeah, please do so. I tweaked the xen setup too, so I hope that it is less slow. Nov 02 18:14:43 good time to try Nov 02 18:14:53 * auke hits the rebuild button on all the xfce packages Nov 02 18:15:06 It is idle anyway. Nov 02 18:15:10 hello everybody Nov 02 18:15:56 hmm I wonder if I can rebuild an entire project somehow with one command Nov 02 18:17:42 "te fixen" is a real verb? :-) Nov 02 18:17:43 auke: delete the repo target and add it again. ;) Nov 02 18:18:10 thiago: no, that is borrowed from English and butchered to fit :) Nov 02 18:18:11 ah smart Nov 02 18:20:21 hmmh, meego strangely crashes every time when it goes to sleep mode on my 1000h... Nov 02 18:20:31 X-Fade: bedankt. it's rebuilding and looking faster than it was already... Nov 02 18:20:38 closing the lid won't freeze the system, but if it is idle for some time it'll crash Nov 02 18:21:46 auke: xen dom0 didn't have enough cpu power assigned to it, so that killed scheduling between the worker VMs. Nov 02 18:22:32 nod Nov 02 18:22:39 ok http://crepo.meego.com/home%3a/auke%3a/xfce/ already appeared, nice Nov 02 18:22:41 sweet Nov 02 18:23:50 But the IO on these servers still seems quite slow. And setting up a worker vm each time takes quite some IO. Nov 02 18:23:57 So we need to play with that some more. Nov 02 18:24:14 We could do with some nice Intel solid state drives :D Nov 02 18:26:10 * Stskeeps ponders if arm hardfp is a new architecture in terms of rpm arch_canon Nov 02 18:27:41 Stskeeps: Yes. Nov 02 18:28:27 Stskeeps: at rpm5.org it lists armv5teb and armv5tel, so I guess that answers it? Nov 02 18:28:40 eb = endian-big Nov 02 18:28:45 ARM can run in either endianness Nov 02 18:28:59 that has nothing to do with the FP ABI Nov 02 18:29:03 Hmm yeah, but isn't this the same difference? Nov 02 18:29:16 Hardfp apps don't work on non-fp hardware? Nov 02 18:29:23 they don't Nov 02 18:29:25 but is usually little-endian Nov 02 18:29:49 but sse apps don't work in non-sse hardware either, yet they don't have an arch for themselves either Nov 02 18:31:16 thiago: complicated ;) Nov 02 18:31:46 * Stskeeps watches his armv6+vfp meego:1.1:core chew away Nov 02 18:32:14 Stskeeps: What hardware are you trying to run that on? Nov 02 18:32:36 X-Fade: a machine that if it had hands, it would try to choke me Nov 02 18:32:58 note that you really want armv7, to get the SMP-safe instructions Nov 02 18:33:24 yeah - this is just a hobby project for the n8x0 devices Nov 02 18:33:30 and to learn more about meego porting Nov 02 19:05:57 Community Office meeting starting now in #meego-meeting Agenda http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings Nov 02 19:33:33 hey hey Nov 02 19:33:49 is there a port of meego to the archos 7o internet tablet planned Nov 02 19:34:43 Unmensch: no, no ports are "planned" officially right now. Nov 02 19:35:20 too bad, I am a former n800 user and think that android can't really compete Nov 02 19:36:59 Hi got a query about third party development on meego Nov 02 20:06:28 * qgil wonders whether thiago will follow this channel during his session about "Qt on MeeGo" starting right now ;) Nov 02 20:06:48 heh :) Nov 02 20:23:22 So, I've just been cleaning up ContextKit's documentation, and now i have a nice tarball of it's docs. Nov 02 20:23:29 What should I do with it? :) Nov 02 20:34:46 hello Nov 02 20:35:06 anybody use rt3090 on meegoo 1.1? Nov 02 21:04:14 omg... frals you traitor!!!! hiding in here and not #maemo! Nov 02 21:08:34 frals: .... pity you... missing infobot porn... doc's sorting it/she/he out Nov 02 21:29:03 auke: it seems the repo got published ok now? Nov 02 21:37:43 X-Fade: pro! yeah, it published ok Nov 02 21:38:05 now I can actually go and clean it up a bit Nov 02 21:48:15 X-Fade: hey, I just added the 1.1 netbook repo and it's not building Nov 02 21:48:22 trunk is ok Nov 02 22:10:37 auke: Can you remove that repo and add it again? Nov 02 22:10:53 k... Nov 02 22:11:02 auke: It didn't have a prjcfg yet :) Nov 02 22:11:32 X-Fade: is cbuild 'open' yet or not? :P Nov 02 22:11:39 as in regular user updates Nov 02 22:11:40 X-Fade: ok now it's rebuilding Nov 02 22:11:53 Stskeeps: I'm on it - just put xfce4 in there Nov 02 22:12:07 there's a few more ppl interested in putting some stuff out there Nov 02 22:12:16 Stskeeps: No, not open yet. Nov 02 22:12:29 X-Fade: ahh 1.1 isn't resolving Nov 02 22:12:43 And the performance is so bad that we really need to check some more configuration issues. Nov 02 22:12:44 X-Fade: I assume we don't have 1.1-base repo's setup yet? Nov 02 22:13:51 auke: Hmm 1.1 should work, let me check the logs. Nov 02 22:15:15 auke: Ah you mean Extras? Nov 02 22:20:54 auke: Ah found the issue. Yes, import issue. Need to fix that :) Nov 02 22:29:29 X-Fade: I like this. I complain, you fix things. That's a really good relationship! Nov 02 22:29:51 hehe Nov 02 22:30:05 * lbt_in_hel investigates nick hihjacking... Nov 02 22:30:32 lbt_in_hel: are you in hell, or still in helsinki? :) Nov 02 22:30:44 ? Nov 02 22:30:44 cough Nov 02 22:30:46 hehe Nov 02 22:30:57 (or both) Nov 02 22:31:08 Aard: doesn't make sense? Nov 02 22:31:15 Aard: implies a difference Nov 02 22:32:51 helsinki is colder, and closer to a nice place to live? :) Nov 02 22:32:56 is there a way to get the virtual keyboard under Handset 1.1 ? Nov 02 22:35:44 * lbt_in_hel really quite likes Helsinki Nov 02 22:37:14 lbt_in_hel: just another ordinary big european city Nov 02 22:38:13 the area around here is quite pleasant Nov 02 22:39:11 lock Nov 02 22:39:40 sry... touchpad moved focus Nov 02 22:40:07 you should visit me in jyvaskyla some day. _that's_ a pleasant area :) Nov 02 22:43:18 auke: Zal er morgen verder naar kijken, wil graag voor middernacht naar bed want ik moet om zes uur al weer er uit ;) Nov 02 22:55:12 X-Fade: aaaaaalright then you can go to bed Nov 02 22:59:45 *thankful for Google Translate* :) Nov 02 23:01:35 DawnFoster: Hehe, that tool is getting too smart. Now we lose our secret language advantage :) Nov 02 23:01:49 hey! I thought you were going to bed? Nov 02 23:02:02 Not yet midnight ;) Nov 02 23:02:39 I always wonder how much of the google translated text is accurate and which parts are mangled Nov 02 23:48:46 rittk: are you around? Nov 03 00:09:57 on mic anyone get "IndexError: string index out of range" errors? Nov 03 01:50:24 cyas **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 03 02:59:57 2010