**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 13 02:59:57 2010 Nov 13 03:03:27 hi Nov 13 03:23:43 Well any .rpm-distributed package run on Meebo? Say, if I'm installing on a netbook, can I set up apache to host documents on a local network, etc.? Nov 13 03:24:08 (And by run, I mean run given the target system's limitations) Nov 13 03:24:30 I wouldn't expect something like blender to operate well, obviously. Nov 13 03:34:09 i get "Operating System load error" on my netbook with meego on usb key Nov 13 03:34:34 have tried recreating key 2 time but that not work Nov 13 03:34:40 any idea someone ? Nov 13 03:35:13 Try recreating the disk with uNetbootin and specify the disk image? Nov 13 03:35:47 * akoimeexx had to do that with Moblin, as oppsed to using DD, which for some reason FAILED every time. Nov 13 03:36:24 ok i try Nov 13 03:36:48 akoimeexx, some folks have been installing apps from (afaik) opensuse or some other distro Nov 13 03:36:52 If you don't have unetbootin, install it through your favorite package manager. Nov 13 03:38:09 lcuk: I'll keep my fingers crossed and test once the image is done downloading on my end. Any kind of package manager in Meego? Nov 13 03:38:53 akoimeexx, not sure, but I heard when people wanted oo.org or some other office package Nov 13 03:39:00 it was obtained from those repositories Nov 13 03:39:09 as a moblin use you might know more than me already Nov 13 03:41:12 Not really a moblin user. Just finally got it (mostly) working tonight. Wireless was disabled completely, so I rebooted back into god-awful ubuntu netbook. Checked the #moblin channel and saw Meego. Which brings me here. :p Nov 13 03:41:28 C'est la vie. Nov 13 03:41:58 sure, hold on lemme dig I might find which repository/distro they used and it could point you in different direction Nov 13 03:42:10 it is also possible that the packages were used indirectly Nov 13 03:45:16 lcuk erkan^, http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=537 yes apparantly you can get openoffice working on your machine Nov 13 03:45:38 akoimeexx, that was a while ago and it wasnt from repository unfortunately, it was direct from the oo.org site Nov 13 03:46:12 So, it seem like unetbootin not work :/ Nov 13 03:46:59 DawnFoster I installed open office on my meego netbook 02:28 Nov 13 03:46:59 lcuk DawnFoster, ahhh so its been built 02:29 Nov 13 03:46:59 DawnFoster I installed the fedora rpm 02:29 Nov 13 03:46:59 DawnFoster nothing special for meego, yet 02:29 Nov 13 03:46:59 DawnFoster but it works 02:29 Nov 13 03:47:00 DawnFoster I do my conference presentations about MeeGo from my netbook using open office 02:29 Nov 13 03:47:02 DawnFoster someone at Novell was working on a more optimized version of open office that looks a little better on MeeGo 02:30 Nov 13 03:47:05 DawnFoster not sure if they've finished it or posted it anywhere 02:30 Nov 13 03:47:21 gnite anyway Nov 13 03:47:46 Ah Nov 13 03:48:08 So there may well be a need to tweak apps for Meego, at least visually. Nov 13 03:48:18 But they will run. :D Nov 13 03:50:07 Oh if anyone see VLJ Nov 13 03:50:33 The nvidia-meego2.ks not work with x86_64 hosts Nov 13 04:03:05 perhaps amd could help with that Nov 13 04:04:53 meego install now \o/ Nov 13 04:10:17 ok there is any solution to get terminal Nov 13 04:10:22 without X ? Nov 13 04:22:42 desumoyo: Glad to hear Meego ran now. Are you trying to just get a shell, or actually boot into cli? Nov 13 04:23:25 get a shell Nov 13 04:23:37 have an nvidia ion, for get it working Nov 13 04:23:49 i need to get some file and install it Nov 13 04:24:20 but meego ui dont load without graphics drivers, and it seem impossible to get a terminal Nov 13 04:24:57 ctrl-alt-f1, perhaps? Nov 13 04:25:05 nop :/ Nov 13 04:25:12 Unsure about what TTY's they have available. Nov 13 04:25:26 Since I'm still waiting for Meego to download (cursed slow connection) Nov 13 04:25:48 ctrl-alt-F8? Nov 13 04:26:12 nothing Nov 13 04:26:18 Hrm. Nov 13 04:26:34 i get another live distrib now Nov 13 04:26:50 for try to chroot Nov 13 04:28:34 When you boot up, try adding Single to the end of the boot option Nov 13 04:28:59 Let me test it on my netbook. Nov 13 04:29:52 Crud. No go. Nov 13 04:31:05 Ah hah! Nov 13 04:31:16 Just add s to the end of the line. Nov 13 04:32:30 desumoyo: The way I did it: Start your system. Boot from the flash drive. Select your boot option and press tab before hitting enter. I got rid of quiet as well to get all the feedback I needed. Nov 13 04:32:57 You'll see a line (or two) of text, just add s to the end of that and hit enter. Nov 13 04:33:23 Should boot you into single user, giving you a cli. Nov 13 04:34:00 SH-4.0# Nov 13 04:34:01 \o/ Nov 13 04:34:15 Yep, that's what I got too. Nov 13 04:34:32 Should be able to run commands from there. ;) Nov 13 04:35:08 ahhh another problem >< Nov 13 04:35:23 there is no ethernet Nov 13 04:41:55 Try ifup? Nov 13 04:42:31 ifup eth0 192.168.1.* or whatever your normal ip address would look like. Nov 13 04:43:04 ifup not found Nov 13 04:43:28 ifconfig up eth0 say me no device with eth0 Nov 13 04:43:31 ifconfig eth0 up IPADDRESS? Nov 13 04:43:35 Hmn. Nov 13 04:43:54 ifconfig -a say me there is just the lo device Nov 13 04:43:59 * akoimeexx reboots the netbook again to test. Nov 13 04:48:18 Trying to figure out how to boot into runlevel 3 without using init 3 in the command prompt, since I suspect that should load everything for you. Nov 13 04:48:41 Can you grab the file and throw it onto a flash drive, then mount that locally on the netbook? Nov 13 04:49:07 (init 3 from the single user mode seems to just sit like a bump on a log for me, in Moblin) Nov 13 04:50:42 desumoyo: Instead of s in your bootup, try running with 3 at the end. Nov 13 04:50:48 I'm going to test it now. Nov 13 04:52:21 Username/password for me in the login is moblin/moblin on the live USB. I can only assume it's similar with Meego (something like meego/meego perhaps?) Nov 13 04:53:04 for log in have already created user Nov 13 04:53:16 Even better, then. Nov 13 04:53:21 just , that continue to not work Nov 13 04:53:25 nu such device Nov 13 04:54:01 lets try installing graphics by chroot Nov 13 04:59:16 Wow. I don't even see networking in /etc/init.d/ Nov 13 05:03:01 lets try one thong called Nov 13 05:03:31 FUCK THIS PC, lets dissamble HDD and try on another Nov 13 05:03:34 =D Nov 13 05:07:45 Sounds like something I'd do. :p Nov 13 05:08:59 kfdjw4kerfprtfg Nov 13 05:09:16 Sorry for flood but "Low battery : 0" on another pc Nov 13 05:09:58 desumoyo: No worries. Nov 13 05:10:10 Gonna have to grab the power cord for the netbook in a sec here. Nov 13 05:12:25 yep but me Nov 13 05:12:39 i dont have the power cord here Nov 13 05:20:47 Well, I think I'm about stumped for how to get the networking back up, I'm sorry about that. Nov 13 05:24:07 good night #meego Nov 13 05:40:15 YEAH Nov 13 05:40:25 have get a console with networking Nov 13 05:54:43 desumoyo: How'd you manage the networking? Separate system? Nov 13 05:55:01 yep is another linux Nov 13 05:55:06 have chroot on meego Nov 13 05:55:16 Ah Nov 13 05:56:08 What a pain, eh? Nov 13 05:56:43 ^^' Nov 13 06:04:08 i dl nvidia drv now o/ Nov 13 06:06:28 WTF IS 7H AM HERE >< Nov 13 06:15:48 hi Nov 13 06:16:16 how hard is it to get meego on the pandaboard ? Nov 13 06:16:39 not that hard Nov 13 06:17:42 ok Nov 13 06:17:51 its documented on the wiki Nov 13 06:18:00 is it the best platform to start messing with meego ? Nov 13 06:24:21 back Nov 13 06:29:55 morning Nov 13 06:31:37 hello Nov 13 06:32:37 abotu SGX driver Nov 13 06:32:57 what does it means not to have the user-space tools open source ? Nov 13 07:00:28 ok that just suck Nov 13 07:00:39 i need evdev compiled for xorg 1.8 >< Nov 13 07:05:39 >< means != ? Nov 13 07:12:22 does anyone have any rumor knowledge, or idea in general when a stable meego tablet will be released? not the nokia z500 or whatever, that thing is ugly. something along the lines of that intel moorestown tablet video Nov 13 07:12:31 and no, i dont want WeTab. lol Nov 13 07:13:38 with iOS multitasking around the corner for iPads, its getting harder and harder to wait for a nice meego powered tablet to come out.. Nov 13 07:14:40 b0tz: there is proof of concept on the Archos5IT. it suffers from bug 5616 though as everything else OMAP3 based (except n900) Nov 13 07:14:43 <_MeeeGoBot_> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5616 nor, Undecided, 1.0.80.15, fathi.boudra, ASSI, Certain fonts are garbled Nov 13 07:17:06 ohh, i see. Ive looked and played with the archos 5 before, im looking for a screen 8-12inches like the iPad. sleek\thin profile too. i already have a netbook, laptop, android smartphone, but i want a tablet mostly for lounging\travel, and having it thin, light, with great battery life (atleast 6-8 constant video playback, 15hr idle time) is a must Nov 13 07:17:44 b0tz: you might like the a70 and a101 then, they are from the newes generation that just started shipping. Nov 13 07:17:57 the archos screen was too small for me. first quarter of 2011 is supposed to be a good time for tablets, as the blackberry tablet, and i read on a few blogs a meego tablet sometime then too. Nov 13 07:18:19 ah, i will have to research those. im in no rush to get one. i want to get a good bang for my buck though, if im spending 500+ Nov 13 07:18:26 We (openAOS) are expecting the open bootloader for those devices within the next month or two Nov 13 07:20:31 My personal opinion is that those two tablets will be interesting for meego developers due to: a) open bootloader, no hacking needed b) multi-touch screen c) OMAP3, so the armv7 port will mostly just work™ Nov 13 07:21:07 there may of course be other interesting hardware coming up that I'm not aware of. I'm clearly biased and not trying to hide it. Nov 13 07:21:57 I see. A101 looks alright, will just have to see its reviews\videos and maybe get to test it myself before i think about it. i find android a great smartphone OS, just for some reason i cant put my finger on i dont see it as the best tablet OS. although, there is a app for nearly everything i can ask for. only time ive got frustrated is when im trying to use VNC with my 4.3inch screen on the Evo, its just too small Nov 13 07:22:29 i see. multi touch too, wow. im ready to see how that turns out. Nov 13 07:23:47 I briefly played with the 101 when I visited their R&D last week. It is really nice. The son of one of the guys was playing angry birds on it and it looked impressive. Nov 13 07:24:17 we should convince archos to switch to meego eventually :P Nov 13 07:24:19 I have an A32 here, cute li'l thingy Nov 13 07:25:07 :o Wow, sweet. I just watched a video on the 101 and it looks quite nice and responsive. the archos 7 just is too small for me still. I dont have the best vision, and id also use my tablet as a e-reader when travelling\lounging, so i dont want to cause much eye strain Nov 13 07:25:09 Stskeeps: I can put you in contact with the right people. they are all here on freenode :) Nov 13 07:25:43 b0tz: besides the a70 'only' has 800x480 resolution Nov 13 07:26:13 dm8tbr: occasionally i wonder if i have already bumped into them Nov 13 07:26:21 i meet weird people who work on strange projects at times Nov 13 07:26:21 :P Nov 13 07:26:23 oh, wow. Not that great.. the meego interface just looks amazing. ever since ive saw the video on that moorestown tablet, ive been drooling. even thought of trying it in my netbook, just havent got around to installing it. Nov 13 07:26:54 Stskeeps: very well possible. does 'av500' ring a bell? Nov 13 07:27:12 yeah, naturally - very visible around beagle and such communities Nov 13 07:27:27 yeah, well, he's one of them :) Nov 13 07:27:39 :nod: that i know Nov 13 07:29:48 they are also quite helpful towards FOSS projects centered around their hardware. e.g. openAOS got plenty of info about the ATmega that does power managment so that we could read batter state etc. Nov 13 07:40:17 if you are happy because you see meego wallpaper after nvidia screen, you know you turn crazy >< Nov 13 07:40:40 indeed Nov 13 07:40:51 but good Nov 13 07:48:26 YEAH Nov 13 07:48:28 THAT WORK Nov 13 07:59:13 anyone in LHR? Nov 13 08:05:34 stupid question Nov 13 08:05:36 but Nov 13 08:05:46 Meego UI work as user ? Nov 13 08:06:53 yes, user 'meego' Nov 13 08:07:35 i can use it with my user, not with meego user ? Nov 13 08:08:41 i dont think its hardcoded to meego Nov 13 08:09:03 on 1.1 Nov 13 08:09:09 user meego dont exist Nov 13 08:09:40 sudo adduser meego? Nov 13 08:09:55 you're using netbook image? Nov 13 08:10:17 vilvo: what's the weather in Dublin? Nov 13 08:10:27 have installed meego, yep by netbook image Nov 13 08:10:29 timoph: chilly and windiy Nov 13 08:11:26 timoph: I compiled mplayer on meego netbook and encoded our demo video to proper format, plays nice on netbook as well Nov 13 08:11:35 good Nov 13 08:11:58 I was just about to start re-encoding it :) Nov 13 08:12:15 that's why I mentioned, spare yourself for the trip Nov 13 08:12:26 xf86EnableIOPorts : failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted) Nov 13 08:12:30 i get that Nov 13 08:12:32 as user Nov 13 08:12:39 if i try to launch xorg Nov 13 08:12:50 I'm trying to get all my stuff together Nov 13 08:13:12 I'm going for breakfast now -> Nov 13 08:14:14 btw, do airlines have some policies on electronics since I'll be travelling with a switchbox, a jig, etc. (I haven't flown in years) Nov 13 08:18:27 switchbox will be ok Nov 13 08:18:41 timoph not a problem Nov 13 08:18:46 good Nov 13 08:18:48 toothpaste is a different issue though... Nov 13 08:18:53 ;) Nov 13 08:18:53 be prepared to explain Nov 13 08:18:59 true Nov 13 08:19:08 that's dangerous Nov 13 08:19:29 * lbt900 going to gate Nov 13 08:21:09 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1nOiIPDvfr0/TNhEpmgCsRI/AAAAAAAADUQ/7kjObGJmK0M/s1600/Cavity+Search.jpg Nov 13 08:21:13 yeah, toothpaste needs to be smaller than 100ml and carried around in a transparent plastic ziploc baggie Nov 13 08:21:29 see above Nov 13 08:23:25 :D Nov 13 08:23:50 the poster looks like something you would see in fall out games :) Nov 13 08:23:51 the other day I found out by accident that they ignore empty bottles. so you can pass that through and fill it with tap-water afterwards Nov 13 08:24:08 you naughty terrorist... Nov 13 08:24:34 yes, I didn't get my hydrogen bomb done until after we landed though Nov 13 08:31:52 * Chani wonders how she ended up on teh interwebs instead of packing Nov 13 08:32:47 dm8tbr: you mean, toothpaste needs to be in a container with a capacity <100ml. doesn't matter if it's half empty... >.< Nov 13 08:33:08 also, they don't notice water that's not in a water-bottle-shape. Nov 13 08:33:47 timoph: ^^ Nov 13 08:37:31 I think I'll manage without water since it's a short flight Nov 13 08:37:43 or actually 2 short flights Nov 13 08:42:04 Chani: that's correct. if the container is 101ml and they are in their usual anal mood they will make you throw it away, even if it's near empty. Nov 13 08:44:46 on long flights, if I can't find a water fountain in the airport, I often ask them to fill my bottle on the plane. most of them are nice about it :) Nov 13 08:44:56 hrm Nov 13 08:45:09 I really should've gone and looked at that wiki of when people are flying Nov 13 08:45:25 * Chani has been far too busy to do any of the things she meant to do before this conference :/ Nov 13 09:04:58 Where can I find more documentation about 'Resource Manager'? It's mentioned in MeeGo Porting Guide but can't find more info about it. Nov 13 09:17:26 hi, I really want to have a meego cell phone. Where can I buy aava handset? or Moorestown based handset? thanks. Nov 13 09:21:17 www.aavamobile.com ? Nov 13 09:21:35 Buy an N900 Nov 13 09:21:44 Aava is no longer a reference device anyway Nov 13 09:21:56 Termana: Why? Nov 13 09:22:30 RST38h, there were some problems with getting parts of it open sourced or something like that (the modem stuff and some other things AFAIK) Nov 13 09:22:42 Weird Nov 13 09:22:58 Is there another x86-based Meego handset then? Nov 13 09:23:18 Honestly, since I don't really give 2 hoots about x86 in MeeGo (No offence to all the x86 MeeGo people), I didn't follow it too closely, I don't even know when it was pulled Nov 13 09:23:23 RST38h, don't think so Nov 13 09:23:33 Doubleweird Nov 13 09:26:01 Termana, Well, thanks for the reply. but I don't really follow it. if I want to use meego handset, I need to buy a nokia N900. no other choices? meego websites still show aava is one choice. Does aava handset ever exist in the market? Nov 13 09:27:14 song123, the Aava handset was never really a consumer device anyway. I guess you could still get one from them if you made an inquiry. As to if the N900 is the only choice - at the moment, yes. Nov 13 09:27:23 (For a mobile phone running MeeGo) Nov 13 09:28:20 Which makes me wonder what the hell Aava was Nov 13 09:28:35 Do they intend to sell it to the publi at some point? What is their business model? Nov 13 09:28:49 I think they just needed a moorestown dev device for reference/show off Nov 13 09:29:02 Who "they"? Nov 13 09:29:13 i thought intel just ordered a x86 prototype phone from them? Nov 13 09:29:29 rauli: Oh, really? Interesting Nov 13 09:34:22 Aava does not appear to have any other products, just that Moorestown handset. Nov 13 09:34:58 yep Nov 13 09:37:21 ...... As a consumer, do I still have any hope to buy an open handset and install Meego on it by myself? I had a dream to use cellphone just like PC/laptops. I buy the hardware and choose which OS that I want to install. When meego releases and aava hanset news comes out, I thought my dream would become true very soon...... (hopefully, my words make sense) Nov 13 09:37:38 song123: Nokia N900. Nov 13 09:38:08 song123: Semi-usable Meego 1.2 for N900 prmised ot arrive around April 2011. In the meanwhile you can use Maemo5 on it, which (IMHO) is open enough. Nov 13 09:39:10 song123: Do keep in mind that, as a consumer, you may prefer a somewhat dumber phone that has less tweakability but provides better "consumer experience" (whatever consumers mean by it) Nov 13 09:39:56 RST38h: thanks. so N900 is the only choice for now. I really don't like N900 design. :) Nov 13 09:41:13 song123: As I said, for design, buy an iPhone :) Nov 13 09:41:31 song123: For brutality, get an N900 though :) Nov 13 09:43:52 RST38h: OK. thanks. Hopefully, one day, I can choose which OS to install on my cell phone just like that I install Linux on my laptop. Nov 13 09:44:08 Maemo5 rocks! Nov 13 09:44:25 not really... :-) Nov 13 09:45:05 thiago: then apple os is better? Nov 13 09:46:04 * RST38h does not see the logic in troll's arguments Nov 13 09:47:02 song123: You already can, in a limited way, but if you really want to use it as a phone, with full functionality, manufacturer-installed OS is usually the only practical option Nov 13 09:47:16 zumbi_: no Nov 13 09:47:20 zumbi_: but MeeGo is better :-) Nov 13 09:47:45 thiago: i though MeeGo was not usable (yet) on N900 Nov 13 09:47:53 we're talking about OS Nov 13 09:48:01 RST38h: yeah. hopefully, that will change one day. Nov 13 09:48:06 the OS rocks, even if the UX is incomplete Nov 13 09:48:24 i looking to buy a phone, but not really sure which one to get, but i liked Maemo5 Nov 13 09:48:51 Maemo5 is not a phone. The only phone with Maemo5 is the N900. Nov 13 09:49:09 thiago: right Nov 13 09:49:36 HTC with android is also attractive Nov 13 09:49:52 not for me Nov 13 09:49:53 HTC with meego is possible :) Nov 13 09:50:01 "attractive" is a subjective term Nov 13 09:50:06 thiago: The "OS" is RedHat. Nov 13 09:50:33 thiago: There are different opinions on the subject of RedHat vs other Linux distros Nov 13 09:50:55 RST38h: yeah, that's why they're *opinions* :-) Nov 13 09:51:21 RST38h: i though distros are not against each other, but against privative software Nov 13 09:51:27 thiago: Yea, there is evidence both pro and against RedHat Nov 13 09:51:45 zumbi: Distros are not, their users are Nov 13 09:52:31 yes,makes sense Nov 13 09:54:24 Besides, Linux distros can be against each other. Its called friendly competition and its good for the Linux ecosystem Nov 13 09:54:53 And if we all agreed on everything there wouldn't be so many distros ;) Nov 13 09:55:05 There would be of course Nov 13 09:56:02 RST38h: what? Nov 13 09:56:26 Termana: A lot of time it is about taking someone's work, calling it a different name and claiming it as "your own distro" Nov 13 09:57:03 Termana: Sometimes, you can even try selling it Nov 13 09:58:01 RST38h, what two distros are exactly the same though? Nov 13 09:58:21 Termana: They do not have to be exactly the same of course, they deviate over time Nov 13 09:58:36 RST38h, which indicates, what? Nov 13 09:59:04 Someone not agreeing with the way the other one is doing something? Nov 13 09:59:16 Termana: Does not indicate a thing Nov 13 09:59:39 Termana: Just indicates two people doing things slightly differently, not necessarily disagreeing Nov 13 10:01:28 RST38h, If we all agreed, then everyone would agree on the one way something would be done. Everyone would choose it, because when they come to the choice of what to do, they would agree on the same thing Nov 13 10:02:09 Termana: Not necessarily Nov 13 10:02:37 Termana: Consider two people doing the same thing and not communicating with each other. Each of them will do it slightly differently. Nov 13 10:03:06 Termana: [also see: inference in boolean algebra, common reasoning caveats] Nov 13 10:07:38 RST38h, if you and I were always in complete agreement, yet we never talked to each other - when we came to a road to cross we had the choice of either running across or just walking, under the condition that we were always in agreement, even though we never communicated, we would both do the same thing, either run or walk across, because we both agree that's the best way to cross the road in that situation. Nov 13 10:07:39 I'm pessimistic (realistic?) enough to claim that even with them communicating they would still do things somewhat differently Nov 13 10:08:18 uniqu3: Nov 13 10:08:28 you all need more cheesecake Nov 13 10:08:37 Myrtti, :P Nov 13 10:08:49 communication fails by default, unless by accident succeeds. Nov 13 10:08:49 Feel free to send some! :p Nov 13 10:08:54 Termana: Simple Nov 13 10:09:06 Termana: You walked, I ran, someone else bicycled. Nov 13 10:09:27 And moo, Myrtti Nov 13 10:09:38 Myrtti: bingo :) Nov 13 10:10:12 Termana: We all crossed the road, just in diffrent ways. Nov 13 10:11:01 RST38h: but that violates us being in agreement about how to cross the road Nov 13 10:13:14 Termana: Nope. You are forgetting the third option. Nov 13 10:13:25 Termana: "A does not give a shit how B does C" Nov 13 10:16:00 RST38h: I think I just realised something. I'm a very black and white person and you're very very grey Nov 13 10:16:03 ;p Nov 13 10:16:17 gosh, healthy breakfast for once: galia melon Nov 13 10:16:19 omnomnom Nov 13 10:16:31 morning \o Nov 13 10:17:07 Morning lcuk Nov 13 10:17:43 Termana: The world is grey. Nov 13 10:19:43 RST38h, KotCzarny highlighted something this morning which should perk your mind .. http://www.xs4all.nl/~weegen/eelis/analogliterals.xhtml Nov 13 10:42:34 lcuk: OMFG Nov 13 10:42:58 isn't that sufficiently evil Nov 13 10:45:49 lcuk: It is, it is Nov 13 10:50:11 this video is about pinball machines, but the community spirit and desire to play is just as strong as we see, lots of analogs with our community http://www.30lbsskunk.com/2010/11/04/pinheads-the-story-of-the-pacific-pinball-museum/ Nov 13 10:59:24 damn. I just realized that I have 3 hours to kill tomorrow at copenhagen airport Nov 13 11:00:33 timoph, are other conf people on the same flight route as you? Nov 13 11:01:06 put liqflow on your n900s and sit next to each other at the airport waiting lounge Nov 13 11:01:19 confuse passerby Nov 13 11:01:37 lcuk: no idea Nov 13 11:02:09 pipnuk, heh, amusing ditty, in cafe in Manchester I had the x86 port of stuff on my laptop, some guy crashed into table behind me craning to see what it was I was working on Nov 13 11:02:51 hahah Nov 13 11:03:39 at least the wiki page doesn't have anyone else on the same flight Nov 13 11:04:05 3h to kill... scummvm? Nov 13 11:04:12 :) Nov 13 11:04:40 timoph, have you ever been to copenhagen before? Nov 13 11:04:45 no Nov 13 11:05:03 then run outside, hire a bike and go for a whistlestop tour of the city :P Nov 13 11:06:47 ~seen qole Nov 13 11:06:53 hmmh Nov 13 11:06:57 qole <~qole@Maemo/community/council/qole> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 247d 18h 24m 15s ago, saying: 'Stskeeps, oh that's some great news!'. Nov 13 11:07:39 ! Nov 13 11:08:13 * lcuk goes and gets hair done Nov 13 11:10:02 lcuk: just did same Nov 13 11:40:17 Stskeeps, lcuk: have to look spiff and span for people you normally only see the writing of? ;p Nov 13 11:40:21 greetings from dublin Nov 13 11:40:51 TermanaDesire: i have to -not- look like a caveman who works at home Nov 13 11:40:51 :P Nov 13 11:41:07 :p Nov 13 11:41:26 :) Nov 13 11:41:41 lcuk: will come dressed like lady gaga i feel - outfit of bacon ;) Nov 13 11:41:51 hi #meego Nov 13 11:42:09 heya Nov 13 11:44:39 lcuk dress is the lunch at dublin ? Nov 13 11:45:43 Noobmonk3y: ha see what you started now ;p Nov 13 11:46:02 hehehe! Nov 13 11:46:23 that's why he's so quiet though, he's at the butchers ;) Nov 13 11:49:26 600 guys and girls I hope lcuk is big to feed everyone Nov 13 11:54:02 :) Nov 13 11:56:13 i still have vnc and can see you mofos :P Nov 13 11:56:21 and the meego party became a cannibal party Nov 13 11:57:02 lol! Nov 13 11:57:05 lcuk: hello Nov 13 11:57:09 lcukygaga Nov 13 12:00:06 noob bacon bras are awesome, but i couldnt find one to fit. Nov 13 12:01:22 hahaha! Nov 13 12:29:38 * thiago receives an SMS for his flight check-in Nov 13 12:30:29 * Stskeeps is still packing Nov 13 12:30:36 haven't started Nov 13 12:31:28 * thiago chooses emergency exit row seat and checks in Nov 13 12:32:00 checking in, boarding pass, all on my N900 Nov 13 12:33:24 * tekojo loved having the boarding pass as a barcode on the n900 screen Nov 13 12:33:37 :) Nov 13 12:37:49 hey guy I have an idea for meego conf' .. you can do a meego unboxing porn lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-AQQoJE-k&feature=channel Nov 13 12:39:42 tekojo: best in portrait mode :-) Nov 13 12:39:55 tekojo: but best of all are Finnair flights from Finland: no barcode, just the SMS Nov 13 12:40:05 hmm... Dawn must be in Dublin already Nov 13 12:59:44 Looks like Windows Phone has hit the same swap problem as Maemo/Meego: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/12/atandt-tells-samsung-focus-customers-not-to-buy-microsd-cards-yet/ Nov 13 13:00:10 And they are "fixing" it with special random access SD cards Nov 13 13:00:55 why would it use the microsd as swap, or it doesnt have emc? Nov 13 13:01:00 emmc Nov 13 13:01:11 Stskeeps: probably does not or has it occupied Nov 13 13:01:35 Stskeeps: But the reported facts clearly indicate that it will be used for swap Nov 13 13:03:15 * ptl will send his fucked-up N900 to Nokia this monday :( Nov 13 13:03:40 * ptl would have bought an N9 if it was already available Nov 13 13:04:29 did you brick it? Nov 13 13:18:41 RST38h, the article doesn't mention anything about swap (or as it would be called from a windows perspective: pagefile) Nov 13 13:19:47 Termana: Ok, let me clarify Nov 13 13:20:36 hi all Nov 13 13:20:38 You have got two pieces of information: 1) they want cards that can do fast random access and 2) they warn that the cards will not have any meaningful file system on them and will be unusable elsewhere Nov 13 13:20:44 hey sivang Nov 13 13:20:50 wifi rates are insaenly high here :) Nov 13 13:20:53 * sivang is at LHR Nov 13 13:21:07 Termana: Do you see where this is going or should I continue? Nov 13 13:21:56 * sivang failes to get a class 10 mSD at the airport. Nov 13 13:22:03 class 6 insaenly expensive Nov 13 13:22:03 :) Nov 13 13:22:27 I see where you're going, but you're only guessing, or putting it over as a thought - but that's not how you made your statement Nov 13 13:23:21 Termana: Well there is another possibility but it is less likely Nov 13 13:23:33 Termana: Let us say the put a custom encrypted filesystem there Nov 13 13:24:08 Termana: First, this brings a quesiton of why putting a custom filesyste,. Secondly, if they just store data there (media data if you wish), they will not need fast random access speeds Nov 13 13:24:09 RST38h, also, this would be a new development for them as a whole, since Windows has never had the concept of a swap/page partition, only a file AFAIK Nov 13 13:24:32 Termana: there is no principal difference Nov 13 13:24:56 Same constraints basically, especially considering that their "swap file" could never get fragmented on its own Nov 13 13:25:11 So it was like a little partition inside a normal partition Nov 13 13:26:12 Stskeeps, also I doubt these phones have emmc inside. Nokia is the only one to get this right with the N900, by providing 32GB packed inside Nov 13 13:26:37 Minus 2GB I guess Nov 13 13:28:30 RST38h, anyway, if this is the case, I think it's a bad idea them doing it. Nov 13 13:30:28 RST38h, along with all the other bad ideas they have shoved in there Nov 13 14:08:52 qmake command "not found" whatt. Nov 13 14:08:59 * Jaffa waves from AirCoach in Dublin Nov 13 14:10:34 "The QT version is invalid, could not determite the path to the binaries of the qt installation, maybe the qmake path is wrong?" Nov 13 14:10:52 comes when I'm trying to run Nov 13 14:11:41 what to doo. Nov 13 14:11:43 ? Nov 13 14:13:04 ArthurDownhill: what OS are you using, and what setup? Nov 13 15:23:53 Heh. Nov 13 15:24:11 mm? Nov 13 15:24:14 thanks sivang for pushing the visibility discussion :) Nov 13 15:39:30 * timeless_mbp needs to get slide feedback Nov 13 15:39:46 mwichmann has been quite helpful (haven't had time to integrate his feedback, but i will try) Nov 13 15:47:15 hello from early bird Nov 13 15:48:04 how's it going there? Nov 13 15:49:26 people doing all kinds of stuff Nov 13 16:52:28 blaa Nov 13 16:52:59 so where is everyone atm? and what's happening for dinner when? :) Nov 13 16:53:04 i need someone in taiwan to ship me 6-12 cans of bean paste Nov 13 17:04:02 the wiki search is failing me Nov 13 17:04:22 where's the page about the pre-conference stuff? Nov 13 17:07:22 search for ealy bird Nov 13 17:08:12 found it Nov 13 17:09:01 Stskeeps: the "makers contest" thing says the ideal location would be a bar, but doesn't say what bar was decided on :/ d'you know anything about that? Nov 13 17:11:19