**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 17 02:59:57 2010 Nov 17 03:01:37 im trying to build an app ./configure wants a gcc i686 not i586 wich is all i can finf in app manager Nov 17 03:01:44 in meego 1.1 Nov 17 03:05:37 lardman|gone: yes Nov 17 03:05:45 lardman|gone: the mmc was 8GB. I can mount the btrfs partition in it Nov 17 03:06:11 lardman|gone: is there a way to get a shell inside the initrd? Nov 17 03:07:36 bernie: you mean at boot before X ? Nov 17 03:26:10 niala: I'm at boot before mounting root Nov 17 03:42:01 Hello Nov 17 03:43:00 Anyone can help me to get access in http://build.meego.com? Nov 17 03:43:28 I applied via meego bugzilla but did not get any response from last one week. Nov 17 03:55:22 Guys, can you help me please. Nov 17 03:56:15 I was not able to use my N900 for the past week because of the power kernel update. Nov 17 03:57:07 And I'm trying to boot meego on a microSD card so that I can charge it up to reflash Nov 17 03:57:34 But everytime I try to write the img file with win32 disk imager, it says not enough space on disk Nov 17 03:57:42 on both my empty 2gb and 4gb card Nov 17 03:57:51 Any ideas on how to proceed? Nov 17 03:59:13 Derek which meego image had u tried? Nov 17 04:00:16 I unzipped to extract this file to desktop: meego-handset-armv7l-n900-final-mod-1.1.0.0.20101101.3-mmcblk0p.raw Nov 17 04:00:32 Dimpy_: it's the MeeGo conference this week, relevant people are probably travelling/at the conference etc Nov 17 04:01:32 But I cannot write it to the memory card using win32 disk imager Nov 17 04:01:34 Derek you are using windows pc for the same? Nov 17 04:01:39 Yes, win xp Nov 17 04:02:03 it will be good if you can shift to ubantu where it works always. Nov 17 04:02:58 Yea, I saw some tutorial using ubuntu, but I don't want to get rid of my windows on laptop Nov 17 04:03:26 mgoddard|nok - ok I will wait for some time till the conference is over. Nov 17 04:03:54 Derek - did u format your card before flashing? Nov 17 04:04:01 Is there a difference if I just drag it into the memory card? Nov 17 04:04:15 Yes, I format before and after and kept trying diff options since it didn't work Nov 17 04:04:27 to default, to fat32 Nov 17 04:04:33 yes just drag will not work since it needs partitions. Nov 17 04:05:43 win32 disk imager didnot work for me so i shift to ubantu for flashing Nov 17 04:07:59 Can i run ubuntu as a virtual pc? this way I don't need to get rid of windows Nov 17 04:10:02 you can use VMware Nov 17 04:11:17 am I suppose to change the extension on meego-handset-armv7l-n900-final-mod-1.1.0.0.20101101.3-mmcblk0p.raw Nov 17 04:11:21 and replace .raw to .img? Nov 17 04:12:02 As i know no need. Nov 17 04:14:09 Derek did you compressed your image using bunzip2? Nov 17 04:17:16 that might be the problem, i downloaded bunzip2 from gnuwin32 Nov 17 04:17:24 but there isn't any exe file Nov 17 04:18:02 so i just tried ultimatezip and later tried 7zip to extract the file Nov 17 04:19:34 http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/bzip2.php Nov 17 04:19:48 try this link one exe is there. Nov 17 04:20:26 That's the one i downloaded Nov 17 04:20:33 when i ran the file and did the installation Nov 17 04:20:52 there's only 5 files inside Nov 17 04:21:06 doc folder, man folder, 2 pdf files, and uninstall shortcut Nov 17 04:21:32 u installed the exe? Nov 17 04:23:03 yes Nov 17 04:24:59 ok I will try in my windows xp system and update you in case same is working. Nov 17 04:25:14 Thank you so much for helping Nov 17 04:25:22 welcome Nov 17 04:36:18 How do I get a login in build.meego.com Nov 17 04:36:32 is there a document which explains this ? Nov 17 04:38:06 am i suppose to execute bunzip2? when i open up run-->cmd, i can't get this working: Uncompress raw image in command prompt "bunzip2.exe " Nov 17 04:52:16 im going to take a quick shower while i wait for you dimpy, brb Nov 17 05:25:34 Derek it didnot work for me in windows. Nov 17 05:26:40 If you have maemo N900 image in your N900 you can try to do it from xterminal which is a last option for you in case you dont want to use ubantu. Nov 17 05:27:17 then use windows flasher utility to flash the kernal, that should work for you. Nov 17 06:05:55 hmm yesterday's sessions aren't online yet :/ Nov 17 06:09:09 yctv you may want to check the session presentations for connected tv info Nov 17 06:10:21 yctv - check MEEGO TV: DELIVERING BREAKTHROUGH INTERNET TV SOLUTIONS session Nov 17 06:10:41 me checking this out now Nov 17 06:10:53 yctv - i dont think the presentations are available online but hopefully will soon be available Nov 17 06:11:17 ohh so the session presentations arent up yet? Nov 17 06:11:56 yctv - in case u need any help/info feel free to ping here. BTW, we r hoping that videos will also be put up soon so it might help Nov 17 06:12:53 cool .. i will wait for the videos to be up then Nov 17 06:47:31 is there a way to flash a microsdhc card directly from maemo on n900, and then dual boot from the just flashed card? Nov 17 06:48:13 (as in url instructions?) Nov 17 06:48:58 ssh + dd? Nov 17 06:49:07 oh, from maemo Nov 17 06:49:21 umount + dd :P Nov 17 06:49:32 yes, no pc involved. ... re: Nov 17 06:49:36 " If you have maemo N900 image in your N900 you can try to do it from xterminal which is a last option for you in case you dont want to use ubantu." Nov 17 06:51:30 i guess http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot Nov 17 06:52:42 it says "type in your IMEI" where do i find that? Nov 17 06:53:42 guess i should go to sleep since i can't read: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php Nov 17 07:22:58 You can see the IMEI by typing *#06# on the phone app. Nov 17 07:23:44 Or from the label under the battery. Nov 17 07:50:18 hello, is there anyone using scratchbox to cross-compile application Nov 17 08:26:57 Well, the party last night certainly seems to have thinned the herd this morning. Nov 17 08:32:22 hangovers? Nov 17 08:50:16 CosmoHill, evidently. Nov 17 08:50:36 I heard some people didn't get back 'til after 5. Nov 17 08:50:48 I hear that shouting and loud noises help make things better Nov 17 08:56:06 I'll let someone else try that remedy. Nov 17 08:57:34 GAN900: where are you now? Nov 17 08:58:02 timeless_mbp, relaxing in the Terrace downstairs with fiferboy and frethop. Nov 17 08:58:24 hrm, @hotel Nov 17 08:58:31 lemme grab breakfast and try to drop by Nov 17 08:58:38 do any of you have windows laptops? Nov 17 08:58:44 i want to demo ovi suite for some people Nov 17 08:58:56 * timeless_mbp heard a rumor that there was a surplus supply of windows laptops Nov 17 08:58:56 good morning timeless_mbp and GAN900 Nov 17 08:59:03 good morning Nov 17 08:59:10 timeless_mbp, Windows? Nov 17 08:59:21 GAN900: yeah.. i know Nov 17 08:59:29 but, ... it's a fun demo Nov 17 08:59:29 GAN900 wouldn't touch Windows with a 10 foot pole Nov 17 08:59:32 AM I RIGHT? Nov 17 08:59:33 Maybe if the Lenovos show up and they fast track the MeeGo install. Nov 17 08:59:40 no touching required Nov 17 08:59:46 Termana, might need to be longer. Nov 17 08:59:49 i install NVDA so you can listen Nov 17 09:03:56 GAN900: did you get the new toy? Nov 17 09:04:06 and did they announce what's up w/ them? Nov 17 09:17:53 Hi, what is mcompositor? Nov 17 09:36:11 timeless_mbp, stuck a MeeGo Community Council session on the unconference board. Nov 17 09:36:17 Hi, I have difficulties debugging my application in qemu emulator, does anyone can help me? Nov 17 09:36:21 hrm Nov 17 09:36:24 lemme get out of bed? Nov 17 09:37:31 timeless_mbp, you and Jaffa. Nov 17 09:37:42 timeless_mbp, it's after the MeeGo ARM BoF. Nov 17 09:39:18 so no sign of toys? Nov 17 09:39:50 will there be any group pictures? It would be nice to put names to faces Nov 17 09:43:59 * CosmoHill noms breakfast and offers tea Nov 17 09:45:24 hello #meego Nov 17 09:45:38 bonjour niala Nov 17 09:46:53 conference stream finish ? Nov 17 09:47:25 niala: I was just looking at that, seems so Nov 17 09:47:29 aparently yes no conf today Nov 17 09:47:34 stream Nov 17 09:49:15 nothing today stephg Nov 17 09:49:46 I think today it's just hands on demos and worshipping the toilet Nov 17 09:50:26 big night last night? oh CosmoHill you're not in .ie are you Nov 17 09:50:42 nope, I'm at home Nov 17 09:51:58 (as am I) Nov 17 09:54:40 niala, unconference and BoFs. Nov 17 09:54:49 for those of you who had one or two too many, here is some light entertainment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSK1D3bZhRs Nov 17 09:55:56 (video contains swearing) Nov 17 09:56:03 (and a cat) Nov 17 09:56:27 I dare not see the emails from Meego there must be 150 Nov 17 09:57:35 the mailing lists have been rather quiet while the active people are in conference Nov 17 09:59:07 I'd imagine that most of the people on the mailing lists are in dublin Nov 17 09:59:19 so they're probably talking to each other there Nov 17 09:59:21 morning all Nov 17 09:59:28 hey dude Nov 17 09:59:32 any video today? Nov 17 09:59:46 true not a lot of emails Nov 17 09:59:51 lardman nop Nov 17 10:00:18 oh :( Nov 17 10:01:51 nothing good on tv either :( Nov 17 10:02:52 CosmoHill: I imagined mails "which means going to a restaurant tomorrow night" but no :) Nov 17 10:07:19 I at least learned one thing during the conference: expression 'Birds of a Feather ' Nov 17 10:07:33 :p Nov 17 10:07:59 did you learn that in the "birds of a feather" section? :p Nov 17 10:08:56 what's that supposed to mean niala Nov 17 10:10:22 the expression I mean. non native speaker here :) Nov 17 10:13:55 * CosmoHill starts his coding homework Nov 17 10:18:32 bef0rd: wikipedia to the rescue :-> Nov 17 10:20:50 :B Nov 17 10:22:01 how to enable 'handset' repository quickly ? Nov 17 10:26:50 niala: ? Nov 17 10:28:23 zypper -f http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/repos/ Nov 17 10:28:42 but not sure about http://......./repos Nov 17 10:29:36 bbiab Nov 17 10:30:13 blerp, still no recordings online from yesterdays talks :( Nov 17 10:31:00 niala: just copy one of the other ones from /etc/zypp/repos.d? Nov 17 10:32:02 stephg: ? sorry a nug I don't know if you write before Nov 17 10:33:30 /nug/bug Nov 17 10:33:31 niala: there are repo definitions in /etc/zypp, can't you just copy one of those Nov 17 10:35:13 yes I have netbook repos and i want add handset repos. and in http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/repos/ i don't find a *.repos Nov 17 10:35:32 aww, I found a programming blog with pictures of kittens Nov 17 10:37:22 heh Nov 17 10:38:01 CosmoHill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8&feature=related Nov 17 10:38:11 i presume you allready know Nov 17 10:38:15 awww Nov 17 10:39:19 CosmoHill, kittens are awesome. Nov 17 10:39:19 I love that kitten Nov 17 10:39:58 lcuk: do you know a good way to kill all your child processes? Nov 17 10:40:13 http://t-a-w.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-kill-all-your-children.html << kitten perl blog Nov 17 10:40:24 CosmoHill: cut electric cable Nov 17 10:42:26 hmm Nov 17 10:42:42 I think with another pipe I might be able to send a signal to the last command and kill all it's parents Nov 17 10:44:47 CosmoHill: on what you works ? Nov 17 10:44:53 CosmoHill: shirley you just need to grep on the parent ppid in the other column and pass that on Nov 17 10:45:03 * stephg thinks of everything in terms of the shell Nov 17 10:45:08 Very defensive Nokians here in the bugzilla BoF Nov 17 10:45:15 my program is in c++ and creates a process ring Nov 17 10:45:26 it's more of a processor line with the last one sending to the first Nov 17 10:45:27 GAN900: very defensive? Nov 17 10:45:47 niala, quick to react defensively to things they see as criticism. Nov 17 10:46:09 i basically need to find a way to break a pipe using a singla Nov 17 10:46:11 ahhh well maybe because is a young project ? Nov 17 10:46:13 *loop Nov 17 10:46:40 GAN900: got an SMS today that my phone is apparently fixed, need to go get it at one point and ask wtf was wrong with it Nov 17 10:46:46 GAN900: what about bugzilla and security alerts? only for intel and nokia people ? Nov 17 10:47:48 so, i'm going to do a talk on mxr Nov 17 10:48:21 timeless_xchat, which slot did you get? Nov 17 10:52:47 * CosmoHill claps cos he's figured out how to kill them all Nov 17 10:53:02 okay, out of context that makes me sound like a murderer Nov 17 10:53:07 12p in the l10n room Nov 17 10:53:58 heh Nov 17 10:54:37 timeless_xchat, awesome Nov 17 10:55:04 CosmoHill, yes Nov 17 10:56:50 kill(finalPID, SIGINT); // Kill them all, mwhahah Nov 17 10:58:04 sweet, the 2nd hard part is over (I did the hardest yesterday) Nov 17 10:58:04 hyyyyrrrrr, cold Nov 17 10:58:46 I had the idea of using the main pipe which all the children know about to send the PID first, then send the actual data :) Nov 17 11:01:21 Hi, the repos are working insanely slow. Does any one know why ? Nov 17 11:03:02 hello,is there a way to install meego on n900 , wiping maemo (ie no dualboot, no external SSD) Nov 17 11:03:27 power: yes but there is no documentation for it and it's very hard Nov 17 11:05:44 thanks for the answer CosmoHill. so what do you recommend, if i dont have an external SD card Nov 17 11:05:58 power: buy an sd card :) Nov 17 11:06:03 lol Nov 17 11:06:18 I was gonna suggest "go shopping" but yes, you will need an external SD card Nov 17 11:06:22 my /Mydocs is empty already Nov 17 11:06:33 cant i use it ? Nov 17 11:06:53 power: not yet I'm afraid Nov 17 11:07:04 the only people who have managed to put MeeGo onto the interal SD card are nokia employees Nov 17 11:07:17 ouch. ok thanks Nov 17 11:07:39 i'd guess that less than five people have done this Nov 17 11:09:06 thats interesting. having dual OS on a phone makes no sense to me Nov 17 11:09:38 power: one you can actually use, and one you can play with? Nov 17 11:10:01 that may be, if meego is not %100 functional yet on n900 Nov 17 11:10:24 well it's still being developed Nov 17 11:12:22 You have two choices: Nov 17 11:12:23 tbh i dont like debian based OS'es, it will be a very nice upgrade for me Nov 17 11:12:36 Red Striped USB stick which include the closed source BroadCom WiFi driver Nov 17 11:12:46 unstriped USB stick - totally open source Nov 17 11:13:11 If you want WiFi, you either take the Red Striped, or you write your own driver Nov 17 11:13:42 3G works right ? Nov 17 11:13:48 not mentioned Nov 17 11:14:15 i personally dont use wifi, 3G is pretty fast here,and ive a 4GB contract/month Nov 17 11:14:16 No Free Lunch Nov 17 11:14:22 Developers need to write cool software Nov 17 11:14:31 Everyone else needs to show off MeeGo Nov 17 11:15:01 [ people stand up needlessly in line for devices which are not here yet ] Nov 17 11:15:24 *cough* N9 *cough* Nov 17 11:16:49 Ni! Nov 17 11:17:02 \o/ QtMobility 1.1 release, rudimentary and potentially dysfunctional build for meego finally passed Nov 17 11:17:29 DawnFoster: geo ping, where are you? :) Nov 17 11:17:32 if nokia removes keyboard,then i dont think ill be buying it Nov 17 11:18:41 keyboard? Nov 17 11:19:15 board with keys, you press key, symbol appears in screen Nov 17 11:20:05 why phone need such things.. it's about speaking, not writing Nov 17 11:20:18 it's because of all them twits Nov 17 11:20:27 you're my last hope, guys.. I'm running qemu based emulator and try to debug some app on it, but gdb could not connect to gdbserver on emulator, why?? Nov 17 11:20:33 teet virtual keyboard Nov 17 11:20:45 where is enter key ? Nov 17 11:21:25 I wouldn't care much if speak functionality was missing :) Nov 17 11:21:35 haha agreed Nov 17 11:22:06 the only thing i ve on it is chroot debian Nov 17 11:22:09 timeless_mbp: I'm here at the reg desk near unconf board Nov 17 11:22:12 well n9 will probably have many keys, so no problem there Nov 17 11:23:37 hopefully it has also decent speech recognition software. Nov 17 11:23:40 DawnFoster: ok :) Nov 17 11:23:45 * timeless_mbp is sitting downstairs Nov 17 11:24:13 -anybody know where is enter key in virtual keyborad ? lol Nov 17 11:24:32 niala: we don't have one Nov 17 11:24:35 I don't think Nov 17 11:24:43 timeless_ nice day in dublin ? Nov 17 11:24:59 isn't it kinda like maemo where when you've finished typing you click outside the keyboard to remove it? Nov 17 11:25:08 steyes Nov 17 11:25:14 niala: yeah Nov 17 11:25:16 stephg: yes Nov 17 11:25:19 niala: ctrl-j? Nov 17 11:25:26 and wrote blind Nov 17 11:25:43 real keyboard works Nov 17 11:26:52 sx0n: so you'd like fries and a pony with that? Nov 17 11:26:58 heh Nov 17 11:27:31 I prefer unicorns Nov 17 11:28:14 rainbows! Nov 17 11:28:20 shift space Nov 17 11:28:20 don't work Nov 17 11:28:39 but symbol is on space when i press shift Nov 17 11:30:14 timeless_mbp, cmu sphinx probably works on it anyway. Nov 17 11:32:20 Powerkernel(45) + Latest weekly meego (1.2) does not play well together. "mtdoops ready 42,43 (no erase)" - Atleast it's what I think it says, since there is no backlight. Nov 17 11:32:33 Anyone seen this before? Nov 17 11:34:21 phellarv: that's odd Nov 17 11:35:45 stephg: Gonna try to dd the image once more. Nov 17 11:36:29 phellarv: I don't use any of the custom kernels on maemo so I don't know but the I don't see why they would interfere with each other Nov 17 11:37:07 has anyone tested this patch: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video ? Nov 17 11:37:24 stephg: Me neither. Nov 17 11:38:49 sx0n, so, this is a patch that makes things that need tiny minimal amounts of cpu get that cpu immediately they want it, when there's 64 other processes that want all the cpu they can get Nov 17 11:39:42 stephg: Blargh - I dd'ed the wrong image..... *facepalm* Nov 17 11:39:51 I love it when that happens Nov 17 11:39:56 ShadowJK, something like that, caches tty or something Nov 17 11:40:20 ShadowJK, just wondering that tracker might benefit such patch Nov 17 11:41:38 no I think it groups things together as a unit, so that the 64 preprocessor-compiler-assembler-linker chains get considered as a single task from an interactivity point of view Nov 17 11:41:39 ghhghk Nov 17 11:41:39 gggggg Nov 17 11:41:39 hhhh Nov 17 11:41:39 J Nov 17 11:41:39 dd?↵hhhfhhh Nov 17 11:41:40 l Nov 17 11:41:40 annoying a keyborad with no enter key :) Nov 17 11:41:41 Nov 17 11:41:47 ah euh sorry Nov 17 11:41:51 sorry sorry Nov 17 11:42:15 niala, did you just prove the need for an enter key? :) Nov 17 11:42:24 timeless_xchat, room 441 at noon for "MeeGo Community Council?" Nov 17 11:42:41 sx0n, I imagine biggest thing with tracker is I/O :-) Nov 17 11:42:56 it doesn't use much cpu at all, does it.. Nov 17 11:43:30 thumbnailer at least eats CPU like candy Nov 17 11:43:38 ok i see it's depend of app Nov 17 11:43:45 Hi! Nov 17 11:43:57 mining probably takes all cpu that it gets. Nov 17 11:44:32 the indexing is atleast minimal cpu and maximum io Nov 17 11:45:42 I'm playing around with meego live on my network before I give it a full install, was wondering if anyone had got wireless working on it for a realtek rtl8192E ? Being from an ubuntu background (lubuntu actually) there's a ppa for the samsung that i use, but i guess that wouldn't work on meego Nov 17 11:47:00 Some of Con's memory related patches look more interesting for MeeGo on n900 Nov 17 11:49:17 hey, anybody know why, when creating runtimes with mad-admin, it tries to ssh into the qemu as "developer" although no such user exists in the image? Nov 17 11:50:56 Is there anyway of running ndiswrapper on meego? Nov 17 11:53:33 while installing the sdk, after following the info from http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.1/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Installing_the_MeeGo_SDK and while adding gpg key I am getting the following error gpg: requesting key 79FC1F8A from hkp server pgpkeys.mit.edu ?: pgpkeys.mit.edu: Connection timed out gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: Connection timed out gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total numbe Nov 17 11:54:31 your message got cut of at gpg: Total number Nov 17 11:54:49 zypper, wget etc didnt seem to work at the hotel Nov 17 11:55:04 due the bitbuzz thingie :P i think Nov 17 11:55:15 browser you could dl the rpm and install from that Nov 17 11:55:20 slow stuff Nov 17 11:55:41 Myrtti: Total number processed: 0 so any help ?" Nov 17 11:55:48 so you prolly need a cookie to bypass the proxy, Pforce Nov 17 11:56:24 Myrtti: yeah something like that, id think their website would provide this kind of info or the paper that was given in checkin Nov 17 11:57:06 Pforce: it's against their interests to allow people to gobble up bandwidth with downloading the sourcecodes of libre- and openoffice Nov 17 11:57:12 with weird methods Nov 17 11:57:37 well you can do whatever with the browser so i dont see the point Nov 17 11:57:43 and this is the hotel wifi Nov 17 11:57:53 any tips of writing a covering letter? Nov 17 11:57:55 i doubt the conference said to block anything, its just their weird system Nov 17 11:58:02 and if I start to sound incoherent, that's because I've not had coffee yet and I've slept two hours Nov 17 11:58:22 CosmoHill: "plz hire me, I knows the Interhwebs. kthxbai" Nov 17 11:58:52 I R l33t, h1re me plz Nov 17 12:00:33 coffee ;_____; Nov 17 12:10:57 I have the question "act on my own initiative and taken responsibility for outcomes". from this I've learnt that using my own initiative gets me shouted at Nov 17 12:11:54 heh Nov 17 12:13:49 I hate these questions, it's as if they don't want you to understand and answer them Nov 17 12:26:45 CosmoHill: sounds like the questionnaire Alan Turing had to fill in when joining the home front during WW2 Nov 17 12:27:31 "do you understand that by signing this form and joining the home guard you will be subject to war laws" "hmmm... there's no obvious benefit from answering yes, so the correct answer must be no" Nov 17 12:28:55 he wanted to join only to learn how to shoot and the questionnaires were checked only for signatures, after that he started skipping the meetings which got him into trouble. When questioned about his absences he just calmly replied "but I haven't been recruited right, look at my questionnaire" Nov 17 12:30:19 hehe awesome Nov 17 12:32:52 hi! can anyone help me with open gl es 2 on meego emulator? Nov 17 12:57:09 hello! Nov 17 12:57:42 hi Nov 17 12:57:47 squeak Nov 17 12:58:04 Hi I am using Xephyr and i type in startmeego-debug . It gives an error "Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?" . My DISPLAY is set to :0.0 Nov 17 12:59:21 that's likely to be wrong Nov 17 12:59:28 Xephyr usually starts on :2 or something like that Nov 17 13:12:15 oh your shitting me Nov 17 13:12:25 I made one phone call and my battery has died Nov 17 13:12:34 it said I had full battery Nov 17 13:12:45 I've also just crashed the vodaphone automated phone line :/ Nov 17 13:16:50 Group Scheduling gets praise from Torvalds: 'I think this is firmly one of those "real improvement" patches. Good job. Group scheduling goes from "useful for some specific server loads" to "that's a killer feature"' - Linus Torvalds http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1 Nov 17 13:18:13 I've been meaning to read that Nov 17 13:18:20 the post nearly took down their servers Nov 17 13:20:02 First time boot on meego - Takes a lot of time? Nov 17 13:20:21 on the n900 yes Nov 17 13:20:23 su Nov 17 13:20:28 Federer67! Nov 17 13:20:55 CosmoHill: Mmm Nov 17 13:21:02 f.... you see nothing :-/ Nov 17 13:30:59 You missed the exciting MeeGo Community Council talk. Nov 17 13:31:35 there's a meego community council? Nov 17 13:34:53 on the Nokia website is says the battery I'm looking at is "Sim free" Nov 17 13:35:25 ok now i googled who federer is and that is very funny ;) hey lcuk ! Nov 17 13:39:16 Is full disk encryption planned for the MeeGo Netbook distribution? Nov 17 13:41:29 ShadowJK, we had an unconference discussion about it. Nov 17 13:42:57 CosmoHill, I remember when batteries could have sims :) Nov 17 13:43:40 CosmoHill, they're not wrong Nov 17 14:03:42 * auke waves Nov 17 14:05:53 auke: .o/ Nov 17 14:19:33 * mikeleib waves to auke Nov 17 14:40:34 day 2. videos are not happening? Nov 17 14:40:55 dm8tbr: huh? Nov 17 14:42:51 someone know in that package is the image of begin of Meego? Nov 17 14:43:27 can you rephrase that question? Nov 17 14:43:39 initially it is in plymouth-lite Nov 17 14:44:16 the image that appear with Meego start Nov 17 14:44:31 Myrtti: yesterday the videos for day1 appeared around 0000z. so far there are no videos for day 2. Nov 17 14:47:51 maybe everyone was at the party last night and too overloaded with beer to work a computer (re day2 videos) Nov 17 14:48:29 dm8tbr: I'm personally surprised that a) both days and b) all sessions were recorded Nov 17 14:48:59 odinm: I was suspecting something like that Nov 17 14:50:26 Myrtti: me too, it just so happens that being able to watch 3 recordings of talks that happened yesterday would be extremely helpful to me. So I keep reloading pages and staring. Nov 17 15:03:05 Myrtti: although it's pretty ironic that the videos for the live streamed ones of day 1 are not yet up :) Nov 17 15:03:22 Dubliners, meet at 18:00 in D4 Hotel lobby if you prefer walking, eating and drinking beer to watching football. Nov 17 15:04:58 thats a formal irc handle, watch out for stalkers Nov 17 15:12:53 DawnFoster, should we send you notes from today's BoF sessions? Nov 17 15:13:19 actually, notes should be posted to the wiki Nov 17 15:13:26 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Unconference#Session_notes Nov 17 15:16:35 DawnFoster, thanks. Nov 17 15:30:54 Hello! Nov 17 15:31:26 what Do package install the image /boot/extlinux/splash.jpg? Nov 17 15:43:31 I'd quiet like that 200 line patch on my mac Nov 17 15:43:40 I can't watch a video and load a webpage Nov 17 16:29:48 what an awesome time everyone has had last few days Nov 17 16:30:07 I have a new hobby Nov 17 16:30:22 I'm speculating over what hardware other than CPU the Dell Inspiron Duo has Nov 17 16:31:33 it's a way of selfsuggeration "I don't need or want Lenovo IdeaPad the lucky bastards got" Nov 17 16:34:07 Myrtti: the x200t i got for 850 euro is my dream machine. hard to find them under 1k Nov 17 16:34:20 and i could have had a laughable ipad for the same money... Nov 17 16:36:19 Myrtti, you mightv missed on the hardware but you will specifically benefit from it when all the patches and tweaks come through from this Nov 17 16:37:47 walking over the install instructions for everyone there was a nice touch :) Nov 17 16:42:35 * GAN900 yawns Nov 17 16:46:27 Is installing MeeGo on a laptop, pretty much the same as installing any other Linux distro, or is there anything special one needs to know? Nov 17 16:48:22 Kubuntiac, laptop chipset specifics effects the installability Nov 17 16:48:33 ie, atom intel chipset etc Nov 17 16:55:33 Hi Nov 17 17:04:59 hmm bug, the ideapad harddrive is still whirring and device gets warm when the lid is just closed and device packed into bag. Nov 17 17:05:42 who got the ideapad with SSD? Nov 17 17:08:09 thiago, were they in the initial tuesday shipment or today? Nov 17 17:08:31 or was there only a single one! Nov 17 17:09:58 I don't know Nov 17 17:10:00 I heard rumours Nov 17 17:10:06 I've got one of those in the office in Oslo Nov 17 17:10:10 but the battery died\ Nov 17 17:11:22 haha Nov 17 17:11:52 speaking of which, I just plugged in charger, then wanted to see if it was charging so clicked battery icon thingy, then unplugged charger and entire device shutdown Nov 17 17:12:03 (it was on ~80%) Nov 17 17:12:38 anyway, time for pre-prematch beers Nov 17 17:12:55 pre-prematch beers? nice Nov 17 17:13:18 didn't you people get wasted last night? Nov 17 17:13:43 what time is the match? Nov 17 17:14:54 http://dizorb.com/2010/05/28/hd-wallpaper-geek-by-juliano-vieira/ Nov 17 17:31:00 ihihiiii http://flic.kr/p/8U8NxV Nov 17 17:32:00 donation version is £2.00, might actually buy it. Would anyone want to code similar app for MeeGo ;-) Nov 17 17:56:42 MeeGoCon dinner leaves from D4 Ballsbridge Towers lobby in 10 minutes. Nov 17 18:40:50 my nokia runs on magic, it's had an almost dead battery for the last few hours and now it has two bars of life Nov 17 18:41:19 YOu took it offline, right? Nov 17 18:41:26 offline? Nov 17 18:41:49 I started playing videos and going on the gps when it said it was low Nov 17 18:41:52 Cell radio off, messagin off, WiFi off? Nov 17 18:43:01 dammit, this is why I don't watch the news Nov 17 18:43:15 18 ~ 24 year olds are screwed because of the lack of jobs Nov 17 18:45:46 You forgot to mention the country Nov 17 18:45:51 UK Nov 17 18:46:47 @MikaelJugner: Nyt kaikki peukut pystyyn MeeGon puolesta. Harvoin niin isot asiat ovat olleet kiinni näin pienestä asiasta... Go, MeeGo, Go!! Nov 17 18:46:48 wtf? Nov 17 18:47:21 Cosmo: "They should obviously go through professional education to gain skills valuable in the marketplace!" Nov 17 18:47:45 * RST38h cackles, Mr Burns' style Nov 17 18:47:51 by the time I start looking for a job I should have a degree :) Nov 17 18:48:11 I've been too busy working to get my degree... Nov 17 18:48:20 Will your skills be valuable in the contemporary marketplace though? =) Nov 17 18:51:07 ...The speaker will be The Honorable Madeleine K. Albright, Chair of Albright Stonebridge Group... Nov 17 18:51:18 Meh. Nov 17 18:52:46 RST38h: I'm here aren't I :p Nov 17 18:53:26 Cosmo: I doubt this will count as marketable skills =) Nov 17 19:01:38 "I have years of experience with open source projects and providing support for their users" Nov 17 19:02:58 which reminds me to look at my cv on my webpages Nov 17 19:05:16 * RST38h feels the urge to dissapoint CosmoHill, thinks better of it, stops there Nov 17 19:05:36 I need to do a CV by friday Nov 17 19:05:55 here is a better topic: how do I query a berkeley db in Maemo or Meego? Nov 17 19:06:04 from command line or PHP Nov 17 19:06:39 python in maemo has the module for accessing it iirc Nov 17 19:06:51 s/in maemo/in fremantle/ Nov 17 19:06:52 frals meant: python in fremantle has the module for accessing it iirc Nov 17 19:07:28 frals: Not interested in Python. PHP. Nov 17 19:08:02 can *probably* do a oneliner for cmdline by using python Nov 17 19:08:16 Once again: No Python. Nov 17 19:08:23 LightHTTPd + PHP Nov 17 19:08:48 right, i was going on the "command line or php" Nov 17 19:08:59 Found it. Nov 17 19:09:16 dbm*() API Nov 17 19:22:01 Nokia 6700 slide, where does that come in the range? Nov 17 19:28:18 if it just has a number, it's pretty low end Nov 17 19:28:29 * odinm is at the airport and waves byebye Nov 17 19:28:41 bye bye odinm Nov 17 19:29:21 Urgh. No PDM or PDA modules in the local PHP install. Nov 17 19:31:48 * RST38h laughs satanically as he loads the result of `strings addressbook.db' into PHP Nov 17 19:34:03 That poor .db file contains VCards anyway, who came up with the bright idea of storing it in .db? Nov 17 20:14:54 * Stskeeps yawns Nov 17 20:20:26 * UlfHofemeier hands Stskeeps a cup of coffee Nov 17 20:31:14 ~seen ali1234 Nov 17 20:31:24 ali1234 <~ajb@robotfuzz.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 6d 6h 15m 24s ago, saying: 'Qt mobility is supposed to get rolled into Qt eventually anyway'. Nov 17 23:14:09 I am having problems with the repositories for Meego 1.1 Netbook (unable to resolve repo.meego.com) Nov 17 23:14:30 Is anyone else seeing the same problem, or is it just my network/setup Nov 17 23:16:43 jonnor-meegoconf: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/ works for me Nov 17 23:16:54 Hmm. Interestingly enough Chromium can connect to two http services I cannot from a terminal, including repo.meego.com Nov 17 23:17:38 Im at the conference hotel, which wifi uses a proxy so maybe that is it... Nov 17 23:17:57 niala: thanks Nov 17 23:17:58 hey so nice conference ? Nov 17 23:18:21 Yes, very good apart from this little issue Nov 17 23:20:27 jonnor-meegoconf: you were at aviva stadium? who win Nov 17 23:21:31 niala: Norway! Nov 17 23:22:10 and being norwegian that is of course a bit fun. Even though I dont really care about football Nov 17 23:22:55 yes just funny Nov 17 23:24:22 jonnor-meegoconf: the public was more us? european? asian? Nov 17 23:24:35 i mean conf not football Nov 17 23:26:34 fairly well distributed I'd say. Of course being in Europe there are probably mostly europeans, but a healthy number of people from Asia and the US Nov 17 23:26:51 niala: http://conference2010.meego.com/news/just-few-days-left-tips-and-directions There is a chart "MeeGo Conference participants by origin" Nov 17 23:28:35 interresting Nov 18 00:07:50 morning Nov 18 00:31:43 Termana good morning for you xD here is 00:24 xD ahah Nov 18 00:40:09 almost noon for Termana :) Nov 18 00:41:12 It is 11am - but also: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Nov 18 00:44:37 hi all ... am new to MeeGo. Nov 18 00:44:52 been using it for just a few days now. Nov 18 00:45:41 am also new to IRC, so forgive me if I step out of bounds. Nov 18 00:46:06 hi Nov 18 00:46:12 need quick help with MeeGo on Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t netbook. Nov 18 00:46:31 hi WIIman Nov 18 00:46:33 what with Nov 18 00:46:40 external mic. Nov 18 00:46:51 don't know how to set it up. Nov 18 00:47:27 i already gave up on the internal mic, because i read in the forums that the one in s10-3t wasn't yet supported. Nov 18 00:47:29 lol wish i could help on a dell mini 10 and never bother with thexternal nic at least no yet Nov 18 00:47:53 hmm Nov 18 00:47:55 :P Nov 18 00:47:56 look in settings though Nov 18 00:48:14 might be something there Nov 18 00:48:26 mic mght be muted Nov 18 00:48:35 muted Nov 18 00:48:42 cant type lol Nov 18 00:49:03 i tried to see what i could. i believe i've got pulseaudio, but i tried all the buttons on the panels. .. but couldn't find anything that worked. Nov 18 00:51:45 hmm not sure then . tryed diffrent mic ? Nov 18 00:52:19 one sec lett me look at something Nov 18 00:52:21 what i saw in the hardware "config?" screen was about 5 profiles: Off, Analog Stereo Input, Digital Stereo Duplex (IEC958), [Dig. Stereo Output + Ana. Ste. Inp], Ana. Ste. Out., and Ana. Ste. Duplex. Only the last one allows me to hear stuff on the speakers, otherwise they don't work on other profiles.. Nov 18 00:52:53 no, this mic was the only one i have. :( Nov 18 00:53:28 it's brand new though ... i dunno if it works yet ... directly plugged it in to try to get it to work with MeeGo. Nov 18 00:56:03 i would use standard linux debug methods Nov 18 00:56:22 erm ... what would those be ? Nov 18 00:56:28 under sound in settings ? check input Nov 18 00:56:36 see if mic is detected Nov 18 00:57:11 wont work if its not seen Nov 18 00:57:32 no, only one selection is available: Internal Audio Analog Stereo Nov 18 00:57:40 :-( Nov 18 00:57:44 :P Nov 18 00:57:48 hmm Nov 18 00:57:51 no mic then sorry Nov 18 00:58:16 try an onother brand Nov 18 00:58:33 will have to find one Nov 18 00:58:42 good luck Nov 18 00:58:47 ok, np. thanks. Nov 18 00:58:53 np Nov 18 00:58:55 is there a /proc/asound on meego? Nov 18 00:59:23 yes... Nov 18 00:59:54 i seem to have it ... Nov 18 01:00:02 should list your input/output devices Nov 18 01:00:37 but i'm not sure how it works with pulseaudio and so on Nov 18 01:01:16 hmm, dunno how to use it. Nov 18 01:01:25 but if it's exposing the device via alsa, you might be able to use alsa tricks to discover and activate the internal mic Nov 18 01:01:47 well wistler42 - the ideapad is a very common device for meego dev folks, it seems Nov 18 01:02:15 maybe you should post in the bugtracker or forum, as it might be something affecting more people Nov 18 01:02:17 :-) me lucky? Nov 18 01:02:21 lol Nov 18 01:02:40 wish everything was working smoothly though. Nov 18 01:02:51 i believe meego's got the change to go that far. Nov 18 01:02:54 there's wishing, and there's making it happen Nov 18 01:02:58 yeh i thought alsa but no alsaconfig so i figurde no alsa Nov 18 01:03:33 so didnt sugest that to him Nov 18 01:04:03 i tryed it in terminal Nov 18 01:05:31 i saw alsa-info, and ran it ... it printed out a huge file of stuff. Nov 18 01:05:48 didn't know how to read it :P Nov 18 01:06:10 wistler42: more card0/pcm0c/info << for example that on my computer has some info on the capture Nov 18 01:06:57 anyway, i'd post to forum Nov 18 01:08:38 # cat card0/pcm0c/info Nov 18 01:08:40 card: 0 Nov 18 01:08:42 device: 0 Nov 18 01:08:44 subdevice: 0 Nov 18 01:08:45 stream: CAPTURE Nov 18 01:08:47 id: CONEXANT Analog Nov 18 01:08:48 name: CONEXANT Analog Nov 18 01:08:50 subname: subdevice #0 Nov 18 01:08:51 class: 0 Nov 18 01:08:53 subclass: 0 Nov 18 01:08:54 subdevices_count: 1 Nov 18 01:08:56 subdevices_avail: 0 Nov 18 01:08:57 hmm, ok .. will try the forums, too. Nov 18 01:09:00 Hi. I'm trying to get dual boot working on my N900. I downloaded the image and performed dd bs=4096 if=/home/Dorfmeister/Downloads/00SanDisk/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.6.20101116.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 of=/dev/sdb. I also installed the uboot boot loader. However, when I try booting from MMC it doesn't work and boots Maemo instead. How can I solve this? Thanks in advance. Nov 18 01:09:11 i thought the IRC channel was more active Nov 18 01:10:04 It says "Wrong image format for bootm command" Nov 18 01:12:40 wistler42: i got the same class of hardware Nov 18 01:13:23 Dorfmeister: maybe you need to uncompress the bz2 image? Nov 18 01:13:46 pupnik, do you have internal or external mic working on your hardware ? Nov 18 01:13:59 internal working great using plain old sidux Nov 18 01:14:06 or aptosid rather Nov 18 01:14:21 you got an alsamixer available for download wistler42 ? Nov 18 01:15:05 i think i do ... i can see alsamixer installed .. i must have done that while trying things in vain. Nov 18 01:15:25 you said "sidux" or "aptosid" Nov 18 01:17:32 how do i get/use aptosid ? Nov 18 01:17:56 lol try sudo alsamixer Nov 18 01:18:12 i didnt do sudo first time Nov 18 01:18:33 not usualy needed Nov 18 01:19:07 ok.. Nov 18 01:19:13 lemme give it a shot Nov 18 01:19:28 un mute mic if available Nov 18 01:20:58 or turn it up Nov 18 01:21:04 if unn muted Nov 18 01:21:14 may work dont know Nov 18 01:28:10 i tried sudo alsamixer ... this time i saw more options ... esp for recording devices. Nov 18 01:28:21 and i saw mic in there set to low vol. Nov 18 01:28:57 pupnik: Thank you. That really solved my problem. I just forgot the decompression. Stupid me. Nov 18 01:29:06 i increased it, and could see a little bit of 'green' on the indicator in Settings/Sounds/Input, but when using Sound Recorder, I still couldn't hear anything.. Nov 18 01:30:13 i feel it's a little closer to the solution, i just have to keep digging. Nov 18 01:30:21 thanks WIIman Nov 18 01:30:32 no Nov 18 01:30:38 problem Nov 18 01:30:43 lol Nov 18 01:32:53 Dorfmeister: i honestly wasn't sure - who knows maybe there's a bz2 filesystem out there :) Nov 18 01:34:06 it would be nice if alsamixer also showed you current signal levels in a side-bar Nov 18 01:36:50 guys, what am i doing wrong? im trying to flash my n900 Nov 18 01:37:20 when i put: run sudo flasher-3.5.exe -f --flash-only=kernel -R -F Nov 18 01:37:22 RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin Nov 18 01:37:52 it shows that run isn't recognized as an internal or external operable program or bath file Nov 18 02:17:20 quit Nov 18 02:17:28 locate wangjan Nov 18 02:35:22 howdy. was wondering what the likelihood of getting linux-ocf into meego (given that it's a BSD license)? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 18 02:59:58 2010