**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 03 03:00:00 2010 Dec 03 03:18:28 hello Dec 03 03:42:51 hello MasatoTC Dec 03 04:00:29 hey MohammadAG Dec 03 04:49:21 hiyas Dec 03 04:59:31 lbt or x-fade in here? Dec 03 06:28:28 in autotools, what creates m4 directory? Dec 03 06:36:02 How can I add some linux distributions as repositories on my own OBS? Dec 03 07:06:38 How can I add some linux distributions as repositories on my own OBS? Dec 03 07:07:45 Jun: no need to repeat :) you can probably just use "setup obs" button Dec 03 07:08:34 Jun: mirror you $distro and inject into OBS Dec 03 07:08:46 morning meego-citizens Dec 03 07:09:08 morn iekku Dec 03 07:09:09 I guess there's doc about this on opensuse wiki Dec 03 07:09:11 setup obs button.. Dec 03 07:09:14 morn all Dec 03 07:09:43 yes but not about traditional linux repositories.. Dec 03 07:10:53 Jun: #opensuse-buildservice is your friend Dec 03 07:11:08 Stskeeps: daily images are automatic Dec 03 07:11:36 cool Dec 03 07:11:40 fabo: Thank you for letting me know the channel Dec 03 07:11:46 let's see if they hit the btrfs bugs too :) Dec 03 07:12:12 Stskeeps: it's run by a cron job Dec 03 07:12:20 so's our Dec 03 07:12:20 s Dec 03 07:12:21 :P Dec 03 07:12:38 I don't have the exact time tough :) Dec 03 07:12:38 anyway, time for me to hax some kernel Dec 03 07:13:50 Jun: what do you mean by "traditional" repository Dec 03 07:13:57 the procedure is the same Dec 03 07:14:17 such as ubuntu, debian like at the public OBS Dec 03 07:14:55 so as I said -> mirror you $distro and inject into OBS Dec 03 07:15:01 wait, I should have some link Dec 03 07:15:18 thank you so much.. Dec 03 07:15:31 Jun: you should be able to link to the public OBS Dec 03 07:15:51 yes I can. Dec 03 07:15:56 hmm... Dec 03 07:23:30 Jun: BTW, what's the version of your OBS? 1.8? Dec 03 07:24:58 yes Dec 03 07:24:59 1.8 Dec 03 07:25:27 Jun: If you use OBS 2.1 installed from the packages of opensuse, the build target of Debian and Ubuntu are already setup. Just add it via obs web. Dec 03 07:25:52 I didn't know OBS 2.1 is released Dec 03 07:27:08 I really read a bunch of OBS manuals, but I coudn't see any manual indicating the OBS version it's using.. Dec 03 07:27:56 Jun: Yeah 2.1 released and MeeGo switched to it too. Dec 03 07:28:00 the last manual for OBS 1.8 is just saying that I need to add http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_11.2/openSUSE:Tools.repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools:/MeeGo/openSUSE_11.2/openSUSE:Tools:MeeGo.repo to get the OBS (should be 1.8) Dec 03 07:29:04 ok.. every manual wants me just to do zypper install obs-server.. obs-.... etc, is there a way to give it a certain OBS version like 2.1?? Dec 03 07:40:25 Jun: If you zypper in from opensuse:tools, it's 2.1. The 1.8 document on MeeGo wiki is old I guess. Dec 03 07:43:25 so I'm supposed to have Debian 5.0 but if tried to add ti.. wget http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_11.2/openSUSE:Tools.repo wget http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools:/MeeGo/openSUSE_11.2/openSUSE:Tools:MeeGo.repo Dec 03 07:43:29 sorry Dec 03 07:43:44 Failed to add build targets: The link target project openSUSE.org:Debian:5.0 does not exist.. Dec 03 07:43:54 this is what I wanted to type ;) Dec 03 08:23:10 gn Dec 03 08:30:06 hi, all, if i need deeply debug in the QT creator for development a program.what should i do? Dec 03 08:41:54 tyson_:modify /etc/zypp/repo.d core.repo&updates-core.repo core-debuginfo-->enabled=1 core-source-->enabled=1 Dec 03 08:42:33 tyson_:then to ~/rpmbuild build a debug rpm then install Dec 03 08:43:07 tyson_:above should mic-chroot into sysroot Dec 03 08:43:22 and then? Dec 03 08:43:51 how to change the "realse" to "debug"? Dec 03 08:44:40 Has anyone run into a 'uxlaunch forkbomb' ?? Dec 03 08:45:11 ...where uxlaunch keeps getting respawned and respawned... Dec 03 08:45:31 tyson_:maybe modify the spec file Dec 03 08:46:22 kismeter: build a debug rpm? what rpm? Dec 03 08:46:56 tyson_:rpm with debug info Dec 03 08:47:55 gabrbedd: why is it exiting in the first place? Dec 03 08:48:04 kismeter: for example...please.... rpm -ivh XXXXX? Dec 03 08:48:30 thiago_home: It's not exiting... I keeps starting new ones. Dec 03 08:48:56 thiago_home: I've got about a dozen gnome-screensaver's started... and more to come! Dec 03 08:49:09 thiago_home: ...not to mention gconfd-2 gvfsd etc Dec 03 08:49:10 what starts it? Dec 03 08:49:23 Ok... back up. Dec 03 08:49:32 gabrbedd: check Xorg.0.log , /var/log/uxlaunch.log and /home/meego/.xsession-errors Dec 03 08:49:37 On a fresh install... everything seems to work as expected. Dec 03 08:50:03 Somehow, though... I've seen netbooks get into this thing where uxlaunch goes into a fork-bomb mode. Dec 03 08:50:09 Stskeeps: checking... Dec 03 08:51:14 Xorg.log -- I see lots of redundant "Modeline" entries. Looks like a symptom... not a cause. Dec 03 08:52:25 /var/log/uxlaunch.log: Error: Unable to open session with ConsoleKit: org.freedesktop.CkConnector.Error: Unable to open Dec 03 08:52:25 session: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused Dec 03 08:52:39 that's bad Dec 03 08:52:55 do you have a dbus-daemon --system process running? Dec 03 08:53:00 ...but no logs after 10.311866 seconds. Dec 03 08:53:22 thiago_home: Yes, I have 10 running. Dec 03 08:53:24 :-) Dec 03 08:53:46 10 dbus-daemon --system processes? Dec 03 08:53:54 thiago_home: Yes. Dec 03 08:53:55 don't count the session ones Dec 03 08:54:37 thiago_home: ps aux | grep dbus-session | grep -v -- "--session" Dec 03 08:54:40 thiago_home: ?? Dec 03 08:54:45 dbus-daemon Dec 03 08:55:24 thiago_home: no... but I may have killed it wallago. Dec 03 08:55:32 that's your problem Dec 03 08:55:36 thiago_home: Let me try and get a clean reboot. Dec 03 08:55:42 dbus-daemon --system must always be running Dec 03 09:04:46 thiago_home: Sorry for the delay. Dec 03 09:05:27 thiago_home: `dbus-daemon --system --fork` is running Dec 03 09:05:58 thiago_home: And 10 instances of gnome-screensaver Dec 03 09:06:26 thiago_home: ...and 10 dbus-daemon --session 's Dec 03 09:06:47 thiago_home: ...and 10 uxlaunch 's Dec 03 09:08:41 thiago_home: I'm now up to 19 uxlaunch sessions. Dec 03 09:08:54 thiago_home: most owned by root. Dec 03 09:10:29 ok Dec 03 09:10:36 we need to find out what launches uxlaunch Dec 03 09:11:02 /etc/inittab Dec 03 09:12:27 Stskeeps: Is it this line: x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/meego-dm Dec 03 09:12:33 yes Dec 03 09:14:29 ps aux | grep meego-dm ==> nothing. Dec 03 09:14:39 yeah, that's just a script that runs uxlaunch Dec 03 09:14:39 :P Dec 03 09:17:16 Stskeeps: :-) Dec 03 09:17:30 Stskeeps: So.... why is init respawning it?? What does init look for? Dec 03 09:17:42 it respawns it cos uxlaunch exits Dec 03 09:17:49 mostly cos something crashed in ux launch start Dec 03 09:18:07 lbt: ah Dec 03 09:18:11 hi Cope :) Dec 03 09:18:18 * Cope waves Dec 03 09:18:20 * lbt lives here Dec 03 09:18:37 Stskeeps: But I have 30 instances of uxlaunch running right now. Dec 03 09:18:49 gabrbedd: what graphics card do you hvae? Dec 03 09:18:58 Stskeeps: N450 Dec 03 09:19:08 Stskeeps: The onboard graphics for an Atom N450 Dec 03 09:19:23 netbok ux? Dec 03 09:19:32 and what meego release ID Dec 03 09:20:15 netbook 1.1 Dec 03 09:22:02 /var/log/messages: uxlaunch/1926: potentially unexpected fatal signal 6. Dec 03 09:22:14 code at b7743424: 5d 5a 59 c3 00 2e 73 68 73 74 72 74 61 62 0 Dec 03 09:22:14 0 2e Dec 03 09:22:35 well that's not good Dec 03 09:22:41 any core dumps in /tmp ? Dec 03 09:22:54 moin Dec 03 09:23:35 hola Dec 03 09:24:52 ....and earlier in /var/log/messages: uxlaunch[414]: GLIB CRITICAL ** GLib - g_shell_unquote: assertion `quoted_string != NULL' failed Dec 03 09:25:03 last message repeated 6 times Dec 03 09:25:16 uxlaunch[414]: GLIB ERROR ** default - Permission denied aborting... Dec 03 09:25:45 Stskeeps: No core dumps. Dec 03 09:25:54 So... looks like I have 2 problems: Dec 03 09:26:04 1) A failed assertion in uxlaunch. Dec 03 09:26:26 2) A fork bomb whenever it happens. Dec 03 09:27:04 well, not so much a forkbomb but uxlaunch exiting and having live children Dec 03 09:27:30 probably Dec 03 09:27:31 anyway Dec 03 09:27:32 file a bug Dec 03 09:27:54 I missed the start of that Dec 03 09:28:00 Stskeeps: ok... but meanwhile I need to stop the bleeding. *sigh* Dec 03 09:29:12 Looks like the failed assert may not actually be causing uxlaunch crash. Dec 03 09:29:27 I have the same on a different netbook -- but no uxlaunch fork. Dec 03 09:34:44 I may have found it... stray file in /etc/xdg/autostart/ Dec 03 09:34:52 God bless strace !! Dec 03 09:39:33 thiago: so, uh, you know how you asked me to get people to write a report on the conference? .. I've got *one* line from someone not-me. :/ Dec 03 09:42:36 Stskeeps, thiago_home: Thank you! Dec 03 09:44:24 are there any automated tools to convert android to meego apps .. not lighthouse Dec 03 09:47:01 tcs-meego_: android apps are Java... MeeGo has no Java. So... I doubt any such thing exists. Dec 03 09:47:41 just the UI description conversion would be helpful too Dec 03 09:47:54 is this in some kind of declarative language? Dec 03 09:48:26 well in Qt you have QML right Dec 03 09:48:33 that describes the UI Dec 03 09:48:38 to a certain extent Dec 03 09:49:40 not knowing better i would believe no such automatic tools exist... Dec 03 09:50:05 hmm .. ok Dec 03 09:50:06 tcs-meego_: what exists in android then? (yes, i'm ignorant, i do hardware adaptation..) Dec 03 09:50:08 install the android vm on meeg? Dec 03 09:50:11 tcs-meego_: What in android is like QML (a declarative UI language) ?? Dec 03 09:50:29 or do you have any examples of such tools for other environments? Dec 03 09:50:43 no i dont have an example of such tools in other environments Dec 03 09:50:53 i am working for conencted tv and was looking at boxee Dec 03 09:51:01 and it had its ui described in XML Dec 03 09:51:07 and Qt has its in QML Dec 03 09:51:37 android should have something similar for its UI too Dec 03 09:51:45 and yes if it was there it should be declarative Dec 03 09:52:07 well qml is awesome regardless of what other platforms have :) Dec 03 09:53:04 tcs-meego_: Well... QML is not XML, but Qt's .ui files are. Dec 03 09:53:23 tcs-meego_: So maybe someone could hack up a style sheet. Dec 03 09:53:49 yeah .. should be possible.. i was just hoping that somethign already existed for meego to android already Dec 03 09:54:08 because that would reduce development time significantly for us app developers Dec 03 09:54:24 ~seen lbt Dec 03 09:54:34 lbt is currently on #maemo #meego. Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 36m 23s, last said: 'hi Cope :)'. Dec 03 09:54:49 * CosmoHill pokes lbt Dec 03 09:55:05 * lbt pokes CosmoHill with a much bigger stick Dec 03 09:55:08 the other option at present is the android-lighthouse project where in QT shared libraries are bundled into the android package Dec 03 09:55:36 in which case i doubt if each app just duplicates those .so 's a lot Dec 03 09:56:21 lbt: on the COBS, does your username have to be the same as your meego username? Dec 03 09:56:29 will there be a single sign on at some point? Dec 03 09:56:30 Chani: that's fine. Send to kde-ev-membership :-) Dec 03 09:56:37 it is sso Dec 03 09:57:06 but they just need to get their cobs account activated by you? Dec 03 09:57:11 yes Dec 03 09:57:13 tcs-meego_: I think that's just exposing Qt's libraries to Java. So, it's still all written in Java with .class instead of .so Dec 03 09:57:22 or X-Fade Dec 03 09:57:30 there is a guy who wants his account activated but might want to change his username now Dec 03 09:57:46 since he wanted a different username on the cobs and meego Dec 03 09:59:09 yeah... we don't do that Dec 03 09:59:37 what would happen if you activated his account and then his username changed? Dec 03 09:59:44 megadeath Dec 03 09:59:57 I've not heard them in ages Dec 03 10:00:17 next time I see him I'll tell him this since he'll probably want his account name changed first Dec 03 10:00:24 also it's like 18 characters long Dec 03 10:01:00 I suggest he registers a new account and asks mike shaver to delete the old one Dec 03 10:01:37 actually DawnFoster can change accounts] Dec 03 10:01:43 she already did it once for him last night Dec 03 10:02:21 mmm that will break the OBS account Dec 03 10:02:35 that's why he should get it changed before he gets the account Dec 03 10:03:15 yep Dec 03 10:03:26 I had no idea we could change accounts Dec 03 10:04:18 Erstelle dir deine eigene Umfrage - Beispiel: http://www.beerpages.de/view/2H/Anti-%22Die%20%C3%84rzte%22%20Kampagne Dec 03 10:09:47 damn you lbt, now I'm listening to DeathStars Dec 03 10:10:10 Jarodan_: sorry ... didn't get your request ... was it earlier this week ? Dec 03 10:10:39 lbt - last week Dec 03 10:10:43 what are you planning on doing? Dec 03 10:10:52 community OBS - right ? Dec 03 10:11:03 training material and examples in OBS. yes community. Dec 03 10:11:13 ah, right Dec 03 10:11:17 :) Dec 03 10:11:21 what was your meego account ? Dec 03 10:11:27 Jarodan_: tutorials and such? Dec 03 10:12:49 ... Jarodan_ ... Dec 03 10:13:20 Sorry.. the material isn't going to be public at least in the beginning as we do it as business... Dec 03 10:13:37 lbt : it's Jarodan Dec 03 10:13:45 done Dec 03 10:13:51 ok. thanks :) Dec 03 10:21:13 morning brik Dec 03 10:24:47 morning :< Dec 03 10:27:29 * CosmoHill gives brik a slice of jam on smouldering toast Dec 03 10:39:22 I have a 21" monitor with only command line on it, why am I smiling >.< Dec 03 10:39:45 mmm, commandline :) Dec 03 11:05:35 ta CosmoHill :) Dec 03 11:25:21 hu all! Dec 03 11:25:41 anyone has been able to have meego running on a pc with a nvidia graphic card? Dec 03 11:34:35 carlesso: not with the graphics, command line and twm only Dec 03 11:35:07 I think XFCE desktop is still in the repo's Dec 03 11:35:29 so it's possible to run MeeGo OS on that hardware just on the Netbook UX Dec 03 11:36:25 damn it! We can't use Meegolandia as a name for community or for the event because of trademark issues. Dec 03 11:36:55 Meegoinia would make more sense Dec 03 11:37:06 Meegonia that should have been Dec 03 11:37:13 that's not allowed either Dec 03 11:37:16 but nice Dec 03 11:37:50 What's the issue, it has meego in the name ? Dec 03 11:37:53 Meagonia? :P Dec 03 11:38:01 slaine: yes Dec 03 11:38:11 that's a stupid restriction Dec 03 11:38:11 just add typos ;-) Dec 03 11:38:18 andre__: haha Dec 03 11:38:21 M33gon1a Dec 03 11:38:22 CosmoHill, I can do that too... but quite usless for my purpose now Dec 03 11:38:36 thanks anyway! Dec 03 11:38:38 http://www.meegolandia.com/ Dec 03 11:38:44 that's us Dec 03 11:39:02 we need a new name for it Dec 03 11:39:20 if you can't use the name then the mascot is probably trademarked as well :P Dec 03 11:39:21 who said so Dec 03 11:39:40 jacekowski: Ibrahim Haddad Dec 03 11:39:49 from LF Dec 03 11:40:17 get second opinion Dec 03 11:40:23 directly from trademark holder Dec 03 11:41:06 well we approached Jim Zemlin too, but he tossed the ball back to us Dec 03 11:41:57 and directed us to talk to Ibrahim Dec 03 11:42:30 there is a mascot? Dec 03 11:42:53 on the page? yes Dec 03 11:43:08 you mean those cartoon dudes? Dec 03 11:43:13 several of them Dec 03 11:43:16 The meegons Dec 03 11:43:24 yes meegons Dec 03 11:43:38 is that a problem? Dec 03 11:44:10 same problem as the name Dec 03 11:44:13 ok Dec 03 11:44:22 perhaps it would be a good idea to ask what you are allowed to do Dec 03 11:44:37 though, it's often easier to ask for forgiveness than permission Dec 03 11:44:49 can you call it ogeem? Dec 03 11:45:02 hmm Dec 03 11:45:18 oGeeM or OgEEm Dec 03 11:45:27 sounds like 'og 'em Dec 03 11:45:37 :) Dec 03 11:45:50 Me'shoggoth Dec 03 11:46:00 sorry, couldn�'t resist :) Dec 03 11:46:01 sounds like the old celtic runes Dec 03 11:46:12 the whole copyright issue seems to be a lot more draconian than for example Canonical has for Ubuntu Dec 03 11:46:25 reminds me of Oggy and the cockroaches Dec 03 11:46:53 it gave SuSe some problems too Dec 03 11:47:21 then again if they didn't twiddle their thumbs for 6 months they wouldn't have had the problem Dec 03 11:47:42 kyb3R-fin: discuss with dawn and quim Dec 03 11:47:51 Stskeeps: ok,will do Dec 03 11:49:04 kyb3R-fin: i'd say we have a problem with even meego local networks then, so it covers under community office Dec 03 11:49:21 Stskeeps: that's what I was thinking Dec 03 11:50:02 this copyright/licence/trademark issue is making it really hard for the community to do anything if this goes on further Dec 03 11:50:32 *nods* Dec 03 11:51:21 kyb3R-fin: fyi smeegol is already taken :p Dec 03 11:51:30 CosmoHill: :( Dec 03 11:51:52 it always makes me think of gollom Dec 03 11:52:02 or gollem, however you spell the guys name Dec 03 11:57:25 kyb3R-fin: can the string 'MeeGo' be used at all or can we use it somehow like 'MeeGo hacker summit', etc.? Dec 03 11:58:45 or we can hide the meego bit in some weird acronym Dec 03 12:00:34 office christmas pre-party && party --> Dec 03 12:18:44 * CosmoHill yawns Dec 03 12:18:51 so many numbers >.< Dec 03 12:30:24 just emailed dawn and quim about the policy issue. Dec 03 12:31:32 DawnFoster: oh, dawn is here. Dec 03 12:31:41 :) Dec 03 12:31:48 actually she's probably sleeping Dec 03 12:31:53 ok Dec 03 12:32:04 it's about 4:20am for her Dec 03 12:32:05 well, email was a good idea after all then Dec 03 12:37:38 fiferboy, i believe this was discussed with you http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=888308#post888308 Dec 03 12:39:48 hey lucent Dec 03 12:39:50 and lcuk Dec 03 12:40:50 \o CosmoHill Dec 03 12:43:50 * CosmoHill gives lcuk somes tea and biscuits Dec 03 12:43:54 how's your cold btw? Dec 03 13:01:52 mornings Dec 03 13:09:18 jeremiah_, are these running ivi? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremiah_foster/5228971612/ Dec 03 13:15:29 lcuk, the comments by him on said page would say yes Dec 03 13:16:15 I just found out how distracting the smell of bacon is Dec 03 13:16:22 slaine, of course, that would have been practical but i ended up on the photo view only Dec 03 13:16:42 lcuk, yeah, I hate it when that happens Dec 03 13:16:42 CosmoHill, really? prove it. Dec 03 13:16:49 I think he's gone Dec 03 13:16:50 * CosmoHill noms his bacon sandwich Dec 03 13:16:55 hehe Dec 03 13:17:16 Ooo, rain, wonder how that'll affect the 2 1/2 ft of snow out side Dec 03 13:17:27 slaine, ice sheets. Dec 03 13:17:33 indeed Dec 03 13:17:35 large, deep, thick, heavy, ice Dec 03 13:17:35 excitingly shaped ice sheets! Dec 03 13:18:01 I just saw someone dressed up as V from Vendetta on the news Dec 03 13:18:19 are you sure it wasn't the movie channel? Dec 03 13:18:28 it's bbc news Dec 03 13:18:46 he was in the background Dec 03 13:19:37 what was the news report about? Dec 03 13:20:16 some expensices thing Dec 03 13:25:41 hey th0br0 Dec 03 13:28:15 when doing :%s/foo/bar/g on vim, how do I use a wildcard? Dec 03 13:28:58 %s/foo./bar/g . for a char Dec 03 13:29:08 thanks Dec 03 13:29:20 yay Dec 03 13:30:25 it's regex, so there is a lot more options if you want to get fancy Dec 03 14:01:53 slaine, any idea how to make a start on implementing multi UX meego? Dec 03 14:02:18 to be able to switch between netbook/handset/ivi without needing to completely reformat device Dec 03 14:02:32 preferably also without dualboot/dual complications Dec 03 14:03:00 i suppose also it would be along same lines as gnome/kde choice in regular desktop linux Dec 03 14:08:27 lcuk ?? Dec 03 14:08:28 lcuk: do you know if they share the same kernel? modules? Dec 03 14:08:34 lcuk What was discussed with me? Dec 03 14:08:45 fcrochik, they all use meego core :) Dec 03 14:08:57 fiferboy, a generic database app Dec 03 14:09:16 lcuk: Oh, ok. Dec 03 14:09:22 I thought you meant the sex finder app Dec 03 14:09:32 the sex finder app would be one use of it lol Dec 03 14:09:39 There is a pretty good (last time I tried it) generic database program called PortaBase Dec 03 14:10:22 oh good grief Dec 03 14:12:47 lcuk: granted I don't know what I am talking about... the netbook exeperience doesn't sound more like one application "the toolbar" that runs several other applications (one for each tab)... wouldn't just be a matter of starting that or the mobile (assuming there is a counterpart)? Dec 03 14:13:36 fcrochik, sure, but how. which repos need configuring for each, which apps need installing, is there already a switcher component in the login stuff, etc Dec 03 14:15:55 lcuk: the repos is very easy (we know already)....applications I could even get a list from one running mobile ... of course, we could just find someone that actually knows about this :) Dec 03 14:48:09 lcuk, sorry, was at lunch Dec 03 14:48:21 re multiUX, it's totally possible atm Dec 03 14:48:45 iirc, you simply have to change the /etc/sysconfig/UXLAUNCHER config to tell it which one to start Dec 03 14:49:01 you could then probably issue a telinit 3 followed by a telinit 5 Dec 03 14:49:07 haven't tried it yet Dec 03 14:49:33 but was talking to some of the intel handset dev team and that's roughly what they do to switch between UX's Dec 03 14:49:53 haven't had time to play with that on mine as of yet Dec 03 14:52:18 interesting, thanks slaine Dec 03 14:52:28 btw, who on the teams were you talking to, are they on irc? Dec 03 14:52:45 Yeah, shane, sabotage on irc Dec 03 14:52:50 nice guy Dec 03 14:53:27 cool beans Dec 03 14:53:47 i wonder whether inverse would be possible? netbook ux on n900 :) Dec 03 14:54:02 if the packages are there, I don't see why not Dec 03 14:54:09 Clutter works well on that hardware Dec 03 14:54:18 that was my thinking too :) Dec 03 14:56:32 lcuk, I've got a stock n900 setup, PR1.3 (wifi only). Where's a good resource to go for an n900 n00b Dec 03 14:58:40 the normal place slaine http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 Dec 03 14:59:23 Well, I meant from the perspective of a regular user on a stock n900 Dec 03 14:59:57 I'll be doing the MeeGo thing on it once I've gotten to know maemo5 a little better (and my sdhc card arrives) Dec 03 15:07:15 slaine, were you meaning from a maemo perspective Dec 03 15:07:36 if so, install cloudgps :) it shows nicely how slick mapping should work Dec 03 15:08:57 Good morning. Dec 03 15:10:08 OK, how do I murder the stupid floating Twitter bar? Dec 03 15:10:21 lcuk, nice plug :) Dec 03 15:10:23 GAN900, greasemonkey Dec 03 15:10:38 lcuk, that doesn't count. Dec 03 15:10:50 GAN900, its coming server side Dec 03 15:10:53 I got a question about AppUp context. What needs to be first submitted is just an abstract? Dec 03 15:11:48 slaine, its not a plug, its a simple fact - the ux and smoothness the developer managed to achieve is awesome. Dec 03 15:12:16 * lcuk was talking to him lots at the conf Dec 03 15:12:50 cool Dec 03 16:02:30 lcuk: what slaine said, add session=/usr/bin/mcompositor to /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch and comment out the mutter entry, then telinit 3; telinit5; and poof, handset on netbook ;) Dec 03 16:02:38 morn sabotage Dec 03 16:02:49 DawnFoster, Nice holiday? Dec 03 16:03:06 DawnFoster, I hope you didn't miss us too much :) Dec 03 16:03:08 sabotage, :) awesome Dec 03 16:03:10 thanks Dec 03 16:03:20 assuming you have done something akin to zypper in -t pattern handset-desktop (or w'ever the pattern/group is called) Dec 03 16:03:26 Omg, it's mirage, i'm telling ye'all it's sabotage Dec 03 16:03:31 MoRpHeUz: Stskeeps Dec 03 16:03:47 sabotage: not enough caffeine i see Dec 03 16:03:49 heh Dec 03 16:04:20 funny you should call me a mirage slaine... it's my secondary nick Dec 03 16:04:43 bboys fan by any chance ? Dec 03 16:04:47 none yet as a matter of fact Stskeeps ... water just boiled Dec 03 16:05:03 prolly not slaine Dec 03 16:05:07 :) Dec 03 16:05:21 since I don't know what bboys is Dec 03 16:05:35 beastie boys? :P Dec 03 16:05:41 yup Dec 03 16:05:57 that line above is from the beastie boys song sabotage Dec 03 16:06:47 ah, yeah, not the first time someone asked me about the beasties Dec 03 16:07:01 I should have recognized it Dec 03 16:07:05 somebody,please help me,how can i run virtual MeeGo on machine without VT-x? :( Dec 03 16:07:14 then again, I am sana-coffee ATM Dec 03 16:07:53 s/sana/sans/ Dec 03 16:07:54 sabotage meant: then again, I am sans-coffee ATM Dec 03 16:23:11 * lcuk shakes head at strangest conversation topic ever in other places Dec 03 16:27:41 well slaine, Stskeeps, lcuk: time for you to knock off and tip up a few pints this friday night Dec 03 16:28:06 and it's time for me to hop on the V-Strom and motor into the office Dec 03 16:28:36 sounds like a plan Dec 03 16:28:47 sabotage, :) if you could perhaps spend some time actively writing up a wiki page about that translation from meego netbook to handset it would be awesome Dec 03 16:29:03